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On October 20 2012 09:23 SayGen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 09:16 turdburgler wrote:On October 20 2012 09:14 SayGen wrote:On October 20 2012 09:10 RavenLoud wrote:On October 20 2012 09:02 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 20 2012 08:55 farvacola wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama This post was "almost funny" until I realized you weren't joking. Though I urge you send a letter to the Romney Campaign suggesting they adopt the slogan, "Vote Romney, after all which party freed the slaves." Is he really serious? I thought SayGen was a lefty, and the post is very over the top... I've seen worse. Some people live in their own lala-land. Would love him to provide proof on his claims about pro-women republicans though. Binder full of women, watch the debate and the facts before and after the comment. There is your proof, next? but dont watch the 'facts' during the comment, but then you would notice its a lie. he never asked for more women? i agree that this whole binders thing is just a news storm in a tea cup, its very doubtful anyone will change their mind either way based on a stupid turn of phrase. but you are trying to argue that someohw mitts love of binders will entice the female vote. which seems crazy. Crazy, poll numbers for women are shifting to Romney... but I'm sure you neglect all polls or other signs to anything that may be contraire to ur view point.
only something like 5-6% of US population are independent voters. the polls show swings of 5% purely on single days events. polls meet grain of salt.
the idea that the comment "binders full of women" turned literally millions of women to mitt is ridiculous
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On October 20 2012 08:27 turdburgler wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 07:53 Mindcrime wrote:On October 20 2012 07:01 Quintum_ wrote:On October 20 2012 06:44 BluePanther wrote:On October 20 2012 06:40 itkovian wrote:On October 20 2012 05:23 Souma wrote:
What do people here think of the Electoral College? And if you could reform it what would you do to it? The electoral college is terrible and outdated. A popular vote would be an obviously much more fair way to decide the winner. But god, does the electoral college make for good entertainment. I disagree. I don't want NY, TX, and CA deciding my president. I like having our say. Assuming you live in a small state i understand why you like the power that the EC gives you but it is not fair. I can understand if you are going to argue logistics as switching to popular vote would be a massive undertaking to make sure it gets done right. But states like TX and CA should be the deciders in the president cause that is where a huge majority of the population is. The electoral college doesn't favor small states. No one gives a shit about the Dakotas or Vermont. The electoral college favors the largest of the states that have the potential of going either way. Being an Ohioan, when it comes to the presidential election, my vote matters a hell of a lot more than that of anyone from Montana. just because ohio is 'the' state that decides the election does not mean the EC doesnt favor small states. it gives small state voters more power per person than large state voters.
Population per electoral vote is a completely meaningless statistic when it doesn't get you any additional attention or policy considerations from the candidates.
the only reason ohio is so important is because its the largest of the swing states, thats not actually anything to do with the problems with EC.
what? This situation is a direct result of the Electoral College system.
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On October 20 2012 09:54 RavenLoud wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 09:43 SayGen wrote:On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama
SayGen United States. October 20 2012 09:30. Posts 917 PM Profile Quote #
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!
Might want to go to an African American studies class.
These posts were literally 3 minutes apart dude. EDIT: Sorry, 35 minutes. Of course, this is from the guy who not too long ago was raging for pages and pages about Obama care costing him $700/month, not realizing he had misread 'year' as 'month'.... No I said it was a typo- go back and reread before posting that libel. I am highly upset about Obamacare. It's anti American to be taxed on the condition of breathing. Never ever ever done before in American history, truly it can now be said that there are 2 inevitable things in life- death and taxes I dislike Obamacare for other reasons, but I cannot stand people who put ideology above reality. Food for thought: even Switzerland have a public healthcare system. IIRC they had heavy debates and a close vote, but years later, nobody would want to go back to the old days. Even the country that inspired the Founding Fathers and continue to be referred to in every gun control debate can recognize that healthcare is better handled by the government.
The individual mandate is NOT universal health care. Drives me nuts when people even compare the two. In Switzerland, you don't have a fine imposed on you simply by virtue of existing, the universal health care is paid for on taxes of activity or ownership, and taxation should only be imposed for activity or ownership. Obamacare forces a tax on everyone with absolutely no criteria.
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On October 20 2012 09:43 SayGen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama
SayGen United States. October 20 2012 09:30. Posts 917 PM Profile Quote #
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!
Might want to go to an African American studies class.
These posts were literally 3 minutes apart dude. EDIT: Sorry, 35 minutes. Of course, this is from the guy who not too long ago was raging for pages and pages about Obama care costing him $700/month, not realizing he had misread 'year' as 'month'.... No I said it was a typo- go back and reread before posting that libel. I am highly upset about Obamacare. It's anti American to be taxed on the condition of breathing. Never ever ever done before in American history, truly it can now be said that there are 2 inevitable things in life- death and taxes
It's kind of sad hat people will put ideology before the basic advancement of civilization. Obamacare is pathetic compared to truly nationalized systems like the ones seen in basically every single developed country besides our own, but at least it's a step forward.
Crazy, poll numbers for women are shifting to Romney... but I'm sure you neglect all polls or other signs to anything that may be contraire to ur view point.
The significant lead that Obama had is narrowing somewhat, the women's vote isn't favoring Romney. Not only that, if you want to talk about polls, how about the vast majority of swing state polls all showing Obama in the lead (again) after being tied right after the first debate? Convenient to ignore those, huh?
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On October 20 2012 09:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 09:43 SayGen wrote:On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama
SayGen United States. October 20 2012 09:30. Posts 917 PM Profile Quote #
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!
Might want to go to an African American studies class.
These posts were literally 3 minutes apart dude. EDIT: Sorry, 35 minutes. Of course, this is from the guy who not too long ago was raging for pages and pages about Obama care costing him $700/month, not realizing he had misread 'year' as 'month'.... No I said it was a typo- go back and reread before posting that libel. I am highly upset about Obamacare. It's anti American to be taxed on the condition of breathing. Never ever ever done before in American history, truly it can now be said that there are 2 inevitable things in life- death and taxes It's kind of sad hat people will put ideology before the basic advancement of civilization. Obamacare is pathetic compared to truly nationalized systems like the ones seen in basically every single developed country besides our own, but at least it's a step forward.
There are a lot of valid arguments in favor of socialized health care. Saying "everyone else is doing it" is not one of them. Nor is simply calling it "the basic advancement of civilization."
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On October 20 2012 10:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 09:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:On October 20 2012 09:43 SayGen wrote:On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama
SayGen United States. October 20 2012 09:30. Posts 917 PM Profile Quote #
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!
Might want to go to an African American studies class.
These posts were literally 3 minutes apart dude. EDIT: Sorry, 35 minutes. Of course, this is from the guy who not too long ago was raging for pages and pages about Obama care costing him $700/month, not realizing he had misread 'year' as 'month'.... No I said it was a typo- go back and reread before posting that libel. I am highly upset about Obamacare. It's anti American to be taxed on the condition of breathing. Never ever ever done before in American history, truly it can now be said that there are 2 inevitable things in life- death and taxes It's kind of sad hat people will put ideology before the basic advancement of civilization. Obamacare is pathetic compared to truly nationalized systems like the ones seen in basically every single developed country besides our own, but at least it's a step forward. There are a lot of valid arguments in favor of socialized health care. Saying "everyone else is doing it" is not one of them. Nor is simply calling it "the basic advancement of civilization."
If the argument was, 'everyone is doing it', I'd agree. I think the argument here is, its implemented in lots of other places, and is doing great. It's not the end all, but it is a valid point.
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On October 20 2012 10:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 09:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:On October 20 2012 09:43 SayGen wrote:On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama
SayGen United States. October 20 2012 09:30. Posts 917 PM Profile Quote #
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!
Might want to go to an African American studies class.
These posts were literally 3 minutes apart dude. EDIT: Sorry, 35 minutes. Of course, this is from the guy who not too long ago was raging for pages and pages about Obama care costing him $700/month, not realizing he had misread 'year' as 'month'.... No I said it was a typo- go back and reread before posting that libel. I am highly upset about Obamacare. It's anti American to be taxed on the condition of breathing. Never ever ever done before in American history, truly it can now be said that there are 2 inevitable things in life- death and taxes It's kind of sad hat people will put ideology before the basic advancement of civilization. Obamacare is pathetic compared to truly nationalized systems like the ones seen in basically every single developed country besides our own, but at least it's a step forward. There are a lot of valid arguments in favor of socialized health care. Saying "everyone else is doing it" is not one of them. Nor is simply calling it "the basic advancement of civilization."
Offering free/affordable healthcare to every citizen of your country is advancing civilization. I don't know what to say to you if you can't understand this. As to the point that "everyone else is doing it", that's just a strawman; the point is that numerous other countries are doing it, and not only is it affordable, but the quality of healthcare in these countries is better.
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On October 20 2012 09:57 Mindcrime wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 08:27 turdburgler wrote:On October 20 2012 07:53 Mindcrime wrote:On October 20 2012 07:01 Quintum_ wrote:On October 20 2012 06:44 BluePanther wrote:On October 20 2012 06:40 itkovian wrote:On October 20 2012 05:23 Souma wrote:
What do people here think of the Electoral College? And if you could reform it what would you do to it? The electoral college is terrible and outdated. A popular vote would be an obviously much more fair way to decide the winner. But god, does the electoral college make for good entertainment. I disagree. I don't want NY, TX, and CA deciding my president. I like having our say. Assuming you live in a small state i understand why you like the power that the EC gives you but it is not fair. I can understand if you are going to argue logistics as switching to popular vote would be a massive undertaking to make sure it gets done right. But states like TX and CA should be the deciders in the president cause that is where a huge majority of the population is. The electoral college doesn't favor small states. No one gives a shit about the Dakotas or Vermont. The electoral college favors the largest of the states that have the potential of going either way. Being an Ohioan, when it comes to the presidential election, my vote matters a hell of a lot more than that of anyone from Montana. just because ohio is 'the' state that decides the election does not mean the EC doesnt favor small states. it gives small state voters more power per person than large state voters. Population per electoral vote is a completely meaningless statistic when it doesn't get you any additional attention or policy considerations from the candidates. Show nested quote +the only reason ohio is so important is because its the largest of the swing states, thats not actually anything to do with the problems with EC. what? This situation is a direct result of the Electoral College system.
I think what he's trying to say is that Ohio's status as one of if not the most important swing states is more or less arbitrary; the intersection of population density and geographic area averages as represented by electorates happens to fall close by that of Ohio, nothing more, nothing less. The notion that the Midwest is some worthwhile microcosm of significance for any other reason is rather outdated.
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Luckily for me he didn't say either of those things. But it's nice that you guys are eager to argue on his behalf.
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On October 20 2012 10:05 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 10:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 20 2012 09:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:On October 20 2012 09:43 SayGen wrote:On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama
SayGen United States. October 20 2012 09:30. Posts 917 PM Profile Quote #
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!
Might want to go to an African American studies class.
These posts were literally 3 minutes apart dude. EDIT: Sorry, 35 minutes. Of course, this is from the guy who not too long ago was raging for pages and pages about Obama care costing him $700/month, not realizing he had misread 'year' as 'month'.... No I said it was a typo- go back and reread before posting that libel. I am highly upset about Obamacare. It's anti American to be taxed on the condition of breathing. Never ever ever done before in American history, truly it can now be said that there are 2 inevitable things in life- death and taxes It's kind of sad hat people will put ideology before the basic advancement of civilization. Obamacare is pathetic compared to truly nationalized systems like the ones seen in basically every single developed country besides our own, but at least it's a step forward. There are a lot of valid arguments in favor of socialized health care. Saying "everyone else is doing it" is not one of them. Nor is simply calling it "the basic advancement of civilization." Offering free/affordable healthcare to every citizen of your country is advancing civilization. I don't know what to say to you if you can't understand this. As to the point that "everyone else is doing it", that's just a strawman; the point is that numerous other countries are doing it, and not only is it affordable, but the quality of healthcare in these countries is better.
It's not "free" though.
It seems like that term gets thrown around way too much.
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On October 20 2012 10:10 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Luckily for me he didn't say either of those things. But it's nice that you guys are eager to argue on his behalf.
He also didn't say 'everybody's doing it'.
"Obamacare is pathetic compared to truly nationalized systems like the ones seen in basically every single developed country besides our own, but at least it's a step forward."
I think my description comes closer, but it's a judgement call.
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On October 20 2012 10:05 Stratos_speAr wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 10:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 20 2012 09:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:On October 20 2012 09:43 SayGen wrote:On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama
SayGen United States. October 20 2012 09:30. Posts 917 PM Profile Quote #
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!
Might want to go to an African American studies class.
These posts were literally 3 minutes apart dude. EDIT: Sorry, 35 minutes. Of course, this is from the guy who not too long ago was raging for pages and pages about Obama care costing him $700/month, not realizing he had misread 'year' as 'month'.... No I said it was a typo- go back and reread before posting that libel. I am highly upset about Obamacare. It's anti American to be taxed on the condition of breathing. Never ever ever done before in American history, truly it can now be said that there are 2 inevitable things in life- death and taxes It's kind of sad hat people will put ideology before the basic advancement of civilization. Obamacare is pathetic compared to truly nationalized systems like the ones seen in basically every single developed country besides our own, but at least it's a step forward. There are a lot of valid arguments in favor of socialized health care. Saying "everyone else is doing it" is not one of them. Nor is simply calling it "the basic advancement of civilization." Offering free/affordable healthcare to every citizen of your country is advancing civilization. I don't know what to say to you if you can't understand this. As to the point that "everyone else is doing it", that's just a strawman; the point is that numerous other countries are doing it, and not only is it affordable, but the quality of healthcare in these countries is better.
At what cost- at the cost of higher taxes thus less economic freedom, for each indivisual.
how about you pay for your own HC cost via an insurance system if you so choose.
Oh wait that's what we used to have, and ya i'm pretty healthy- cna't even remember the last time I got sick. My last injury was self inflicted (broken arm). It has healed excelently, to the point I couldn't even tell which arm I broke mere months after it happened. Adding to my tax burden lessens my chances of moving up. More money I have, the more I can invest into my future- whehter it be education, health, finance, etc. Telling me how to budget is beyond inexcuseable.
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On October 20 2012 09:37 Praetorial wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama Um. I just wanted to respond to this. By the modern definition of such, Democrats and Republicans of the time of the civil war. Also, Lincoln was a Whig.
Lincoln was not a Whig. But to follow SayGen's trainwreck of thought that Lincoln's Republican party is the Republican party of today is equally ridiculous.
You can thank Lincoln and LBJ for the radical polarization of the two parties that has dropped social liberty squarely on the Democratic party.
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On October 20 2012 10:11 BluePanther wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 10:05 Stratos_speAr wrote:On October 20 2012 10:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 20 2012 09:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:On October 20 2012 09:43 SayGen wrote:On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama
SayGen United States. October 20 2012 09:30. Posts 917 PM Profile Quote #
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!
Might want to go to an African American studies class.
These posts were literally 3 minutes apart dude. EDIT: Sorry, 35 minutes. Of course, this is from the guy who not too long ago was raging for pages and pages about Obama care costing him $700/month, not realizing he had misread 'year' as 'month'.... No I said it was a typo- go back and reread before posting that libel. I am highly upset about Obamacare. It's anti American to be taxed on the condition of breathing. Never ever ever done before in American history, truly it can now be said that there are 2 inevitable things in life- death and taxes It's kind of sad hat people will put ideology before the basic advancement of civilization. Obamacare is pathetic compared to truly nationalized systems like the ones seen in basically every single developed country besides our own, but at least it's a step forward. There are a lot of valid arguments in favor of socialized health care. Saying "everyone else is doing it" is not one of them. Nor is simply calling it "the basic advancement of civilization." Offering free/affordable healthcare to every citizen of your country is advancing civilization. I don't know what to say to you if you can't understand this. As to the point that "everyone else is doing it", that's just a strawman; the point is that numerous other countries are doing it, and not only is it affordable, but the quality of healthcare in these countries is better. It's not "free" though. It seems like that term gets thrown around way too much.
Liberal dogma. As long as they don't see the expense people are dumb enough to beleive it's free.
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On October 20 2012 10:16 SayGen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 10:05 Stratos_speAr wrote:On October 20 2012 10:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 20 2012 09:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:On October 20 2012 09:43 SayGen wrote:On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama
SayGen United States. October 20 2012 09:30. Posts 917 PM Profile Quote #
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!
Might want to go to an African American studies class.
These posts were literally 3 minutes apart dude. EDIT: Sorry, 35 minutes. Of course, this is from the guy who not too long ago was raging for pages and pages about Obama care costing him $700/month, not realizing he had misread 'year' as 'month'.... No I said it was a typo- go back and reread before posting that libel. I am highly upset about Obamacare. It's anti American to be taxed on the condition of breathing. Never ever ever done before in American history, truly it can now be said that there are 2 inevitable things in life- death and taxes It's kind of sad hat people will put ideology before the basic advancement of civilization. Obamacare is pathetic compared to truly nationalized systems like the ones seen in basically every single developed country besides our own, but at least it's a step forward. There are a lot of valid arguments in favor of socialized health care. Saying "everyone else is doing it" is not one of them. Nor is simply calling it "the basic advancement of civilization." Offering free/affordable healthcare to every citizen of your country is advancing civilization. I don't know what to say to you if you can't understand this. As to the point that "everyone else is doing it", that's just a strawman; the point is that numerous other countries are doing it, and not only is it affordable, but the quality of healthcare in these countries is better. At what cost- at the cost of higher taxes thus less economic freedom, for each indivisual. how about you pay for your own HC cost via an insurance system if you so choose. Oh wait that's what we used to have, and ya i'm pretty healthy- cna't even remember the last time I got sick. My last injury was self inflicted (broken arm). It has healed excelently, to the point I couldn't even tell which arm I broke mere months after it happened. Adding to my tax burden lessens my chances of moving up. More money I have, the more I can invest into my future- whehter it be education, health, finance, etc. Telling me how to budget is beyond inexcuseable.
I bet that $300 you saved every month for years and then spent on your broken arm didn't help you move on up.
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On October 20 2012 10:16 urashimakt wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 09:37 Praetorial wrote:On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama Um. I just wanted to respond to this. By the modern definition of such, Democrats and Republicans of the time of the civil war. Also, Lincoln was a Whig. Lincoln was not a Whig. But to follow SayGen's trainwreck of thought that Lincoln's Republican party is the Republican party of today is equally ridiculous. You can thank Lincoln and LBJ for the radical polarization of the two parties that has dropped social liberty squarely on the Democratic party.
and yet, Mitt Romney has done more to advance woman advancement in society than his liberal competetor Obama?
Why is this?
Perhaps it is cause your wrong, but that's just a guess.
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On October 20 2012 10:17 mynameisgreat11 wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 10:16 SayGen wrote:On October 20 2012 10:05 Stratos_speAr wrote:On October 20 2012 10:01 jdseemoreglass wrote:On October 20 2012 09:59 Stratos_speAr wrote:On October 20 2012 09:43 SayGen wrote:On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama
SayGen United States. October 20 2012 09:30. Posts 917 PM Profile Quote #
On October 20 2012 09:28 mynameisgreat11 wrote:
Republicans freed the slaves! It says so on wiki!
Might want to go to an African American studies class.
These posts were literally 3 minutes apart dude. EDIT: Sorry, 35 minutes. Of course, this is from the guy who not too long ago was raging for pages and pages about Obama care costing him $700/month, not realizing he had misread 'year' as 'month'.... No I said it was a typo- go back and reread before posting that libel. I am highly upset about Obamacare. It's anti American to be taxed on the condition of breathing. Never ever ever done before in American history, truly it can now be said that there are 2 inevitable things in life- death and taxes It's kind of sad hat people will put ideology before the basic advancement of civilization. Obamacare is pathetic compared to truly nationalized systems like the ones seen in basically every single developed country besides our own, but at least it's a step forward. There are a lot of valid arguments in favor of socialized health care. Saying "everyone else is doing it" is not one of them. Nor is simply calling it "the basic advancement of civilization." Offering free/affordable healthcare to every citizen of your country is advancing civilization. I don't know what to say to you if you can't understand this. As to the point that "everyone else is doing it", that's just a strawman; the point is that numerous other countries are doing it, and not only is it affordable, but the quality of healthcare in these countries is better. At what cost- at the cost of higher taxes thus less economic freedom, for each indivisual. how about you pay for your own HC cost via an insurance system if you so choose. Oh wait that's what we used to have, and ya i'm pretty healthy- cna't even remember the last time I got sick. My last injury was self inflicted (broken arm). It has healed excelently, to the point I couldn't even tell which arm I broke mere months after it happened. Adding to my tax burden lessens my chances of moving up. More money I have, the more I can invest into my future- whehter it be education, health, finance, etc. Telling me how to budget is beyond inexcuseable. I bet that $300 you saved every month for years and then spent on your broken arm didn't help you move on up.
Spent with money left over, that is currently gaining intrest while supporting the American economy. (that money set aside in CDs/LowRisk mutal fund is a loan to a fellow American). win-win.
Anything else you got?
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On October 20 2012 10:18 SayGen wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 10:16 urashimakt wrote:On October 20 2012 09:37 Praetorial wrote:On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama Um. I just wanted to respond to this. By the modern definition of such, Democrats and Republicans of the time of the civil war. Also, Lincoln was a Whig. Lincoln was not a Whig. But to follow SayGen's trainwreck of thought that Lincoln's Republican party is the Republican party of today is equally ridiculous. You can thank Lincoln and LBJ for the radical polarization of the two parties that has dropped social liberty squarely on the Democratic party. and yet, Mitt Romney has done more to advance woman advancement in society than his liberal competetor Obama? Why is this? Perhaps it is cause your wrong, but that's just a guess.
And that would be........what exactly?
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On October 20 2012 10:19 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 10:18 SayGen wrote:On October 20 2012 10:16 urashimakt wrote:On October 20 2012 09:37 Praetorial wrote:On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama Um. I just wanted to respond to this. By the modern definition of such, Democrats and Republicans of the time of the civil war. Also, Lincoln was a Whig. Lincoln was not a Whig. But to follow SayGen's trainwreck of thought that Lincoln's Republican party is the Republican party of today is equally ridiculous. You can thank Lincoln and LBJ for the radical polarization of the two parties that has dropped social liberty squarely on the Democratic party. and yet, Mitt Romney has done more to advance woman advancement in society than his liberal competetor Obama? Why is this? Perhaps it is cause your wrong, but that's just a guess. And that would be........what exactly?
seriously at least attempt to find the answer before asking questions.
Watch the second debate, he goes in depth answering the quesiton about woman advancement in society.
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On October 20 2012 10:19 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On October 20 2012 10:18 SayGen wrote:On October 20 2012 10:16 urashimakt wrote:On October 20 2012 09:37 Praetorial wrote:On October 20 2012 09:33 mynameisgreat11 wrote:On October 20 2012 08:51 SayGen wrote:
Loving how the 'Binder full of women' is backfiring on the Obama camp.
Almost funny how the more they say it the more women voters switch to Romney after they look into what he said and realize he has done more for equality than Obama has.
Best part is, Liberals act like they are the defenders of minorities when facts are Republicans are the ones who have done the most good in our country--after all which party freed the slaves.
Want equality, vote Romney
Want more sexism and social injustice, vote Obama Um. I just wanted to respond to this. By the modern definition of such, Democrats and Republicans of the time of the civil war. Also, Lincoln was a Whig. Lincoln was not a Whig. But to follow SayGen's trainwreck of thought that Lincoln's Republican party is the Republican party of today is equally ridiculous. You can thank Lincoln and LBJ for the radical polarization of the two parties that has dropped social liberty squarely on the Democratic party. and yet, Mitt Romney has done more to advance woman advancement in society than his liberal competetor Obama? Why is this? Perhaps it is cause your wrong, but that's just a guess. And that would be........what exactly?
Don't feed the troll guys 
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