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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18826 Posts
October 12 2012 02:25 GMT
#15261
On October 12 2012 11:24 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:22 Deathmanbob wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:21 xDaunt wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:20 Deathmanbob wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:19 xDaunt wrote:
Biden is lying his ass off about how Obamacare affects the Church.

6-4 Biden


HEY NOW! you do not score for lies, only if called out! fix your score for your own standing!

He gets it for pointing out the lawsuits.


you think a toss away line about lawsuits beats the "i dont push my beliefs on you" lie?

Even without the lawsuits line. Biden dodged Ryan's charge and failed to answer it. You cannot just say that you will not push your religion on others when the charge is that your administration is funding abortions anytime, anywhere --- including supporting late term abortions.

Abortions Anytime, Anywhere ehh? Get that to a super PAC quick!
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
October 12 2012 02:25 GMT
#15262
The last few minutes of this debate were just fail all around. Bad question, bad moderating, why is she crying.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 02:26:08
October 12 2012 02:25 GMT
#15263
On October 12 2012 11:24 sc2superfan101 wrote:
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On October 12 2012 11:23 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:23 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:20 Risen wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:19 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:15 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:15 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:12 Risen wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:08 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:05 Risen wrote:
[quote]

That's a difference between us. I don't care about fair because the real world isn't fair. I care about the strongest president winning. If you have to lie/mislead people about your positions then you're weak. Your ideas should stand up on their own merit.

Biden losing it a bit atm.

what about Obama's performance in the debate? was he the "strongest president" in that one?


I don't care about debate performances. I watch these in the hopes that one day the candidates will argue ideas. At least Obama wasn't up there lying/placing a smokescreen for his ideas.

In my world, my vote is controlled by the party who places their ideas out for public scrutiny and doesn't try to mislead/lie, because that is strength to me. Right now, that's the Democratic party (libs would be closer, but I like my vote to matter)

do you, maybe, have one or two lies that you remember that you think the Republicans are telling? so you could, you know, put it out there for the public scrutiny?


Well, when Ryan said his plan was supported by a Democrat he was lying, as you could tell by his reaction when Biden called him out.

it was originally supported by a Democrat.


But not anymore. So he was intentionally trying to mislead people. Got it.

when did he say that the Democrat still supported it?

it's like when Obama calls the mandate a Republican idea, even though the Republican party hasn't supported it since the 90s.


You can't say that "our plan has bipartisan support" when no one in the other party currently supports it. Sorry. That's unacceptable.

but you can say: "our plan is a Republican idea!" when no one in the party supports it?

0.o


You can say "this plan was originally pitched by Republicans in the 90s." Which is I believe the party line. The origin of "this party began as a bipartisan one" is based upon pre-Scott Brown Congress, which is a separate muddier issue.
Deathmanbob
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2356 Posts
October 12 2012 02:25 GMT
#15264
On October 12 2012 11:24 xDaunt wrote:
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On October 12 2012 11:23 Deathmanbob wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:22 xDaunt wrote:
What the fuck kind of ending question is this? And you are asking it to Biden who has soiled the whole debate with his tone? What a joke.


she asked it to biden first because ryan gets the last word of the debate...... you're better than this

It doesn't matter who answers it in what order. It is a stupid question.


And you are asking it to Biden who has soiled the whole debate with his tone?

seems like you cared who was asked, thats just what i took away from your wording
No Artosis, you are robin
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 02:26:07
October 12 2012 02:25 GMT
#15265
LOL, microphone.

Was that just me?
Steelavocado
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2123 Posts
October 12 2012 02:26 GMT
#15266
On October 12 2012 11:25 LuckyFool wrote:
The last few minutes of this debate were just fail all around. Bad question, bad moderating, why is she crying.

Was she really crying?
MIRACLE IS YOUR TI7 CHAMP
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5710 Posts
October 12 2012 02:26 GMT
#15267
I'm facepalming at this debate right now.

Question about negative tone affecting campaigns. Ryan answers by saying how horrible a president Obama is and says nothing inspiring or good at all...
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
Enchanted
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1609 Posts
October 12 2012 02:26 GMT
#15268
Damn, Ryan went on the attack for once.
HellRoxYa
Profile Joined September 2010
Sweden1614 Posts
October 12 2012 02:26 GMT
#15269
The irony of Ryans answer.
TheRabidDeer
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
United States3806 Posts
October 12 2012 02:26 GMT
#15270
Horrible answer from Ryan...
Martha: "What do you think about the negative campaigns?"
Ryan: "Attacks Obama"

/facepalm
LuckyFool
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States9015 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 02:26:57
October 12 2012 02:26 GMT
#15271
On October 12 2012 11:26 Steelavocado wrote:
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On October 12 2012 11:25 LuckyFool wrote:
The last few minutes of this debate were just fail all around. Bad question, bad moderating, why is she crying.

Was she really crying?


No but it's really distracting and sounds like it.

edit: she just spoke again and her voice was cracking, sounds like she really is LOL
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
October 12 2012 02:26 GMT
#15272
biden shut down ryan, but ryan went for it anyways. not a good idea.
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44328 Posts
October 12 2012 02:26 GMT
#15273
Romney is uniquely qualified with a bipartisan record, not Obama...

wat.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 12 2012 02:26 GMT
#15274
On October 12 2012 11:24 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:21 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:19 turdburgler wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:17 xDaunt wrote:
Great answer from Ryan on abortion. Walked the line well between staying true to his views and supporting Romney. That question was a trap and he avoided it.


"state your opinion on the hottest issue in america" is a trap for a candidate?


ryan misleading "that doesnt change the definition of life". a fetus unable to support itself outside the mother is not technically alive by a scientific definition.

uhhh............



what?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life#Biology

fails adaption. and arguably homeostasis.


Most people who argue against abortion don't know what homeostasis means... (pretty much means self-regulating, btw)

HOLY SHIT ROBOT RYAN. Anyone else get a weird bug through the stream where Ryan sounded like Robotnik for a second or so? lol
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
October 12 2012 02:26 GMT
#15275
One would think that the democrats would figure out how to give a good closing arguments. Romney and Ryan have figured it out.

6-5 Biden.

And now she is just going give Biden the last word?
Supamang
Profile Joined June 2010
United States2298 Posts
October 12 2012 02:27 GMT
#15276
I think the right answer would have been to agree that it has been a tough election and a difficult road against a worthy opponent. The guy was looking for a positive answer, not another attack against the opposition. They should have expressed respect for each other at this final question, not more attacks
jalstar
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States8198 Posts
October 12 2012 02:27 GMT
#15277
Ryan went for the lies per minute thing, just like at the convention speech, because Biden can't respond.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
October 12 2012 02:27 GMT
#15278
Biden, you're better than this. Don't just lunge back. Whyyyyyyy...playing into a trap. Should have sprung it on Ryan.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 12 2012 02:27 GMT
#15279
It's a DEBATE, they are SUPPOSED to attack each other.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-12 02:32:03
October 12 2012 02:27 GMT
#15280
On October 12 2012 11:24 turdburgler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2012 11:21 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:19 turdburgler wrote:
On October 12 2012 11:17 xDaunt wrote:
Great answer from Ryan on abortion. Walked the line well between staying true to his views and supporting Romney. That question was a trap and he avoided it.


"state your opinion on the hottest issue in america" is a trap for a candidate?


ryan misleading "that doesnt change the definition of life". a fetus unable to support itself outside the mother is not technically alive by a scientific definition.

uhhh............



what?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Life#Biology

fails adaption. and arguably homeostasis.

this is off-topic but:

uh lol? do you have any idea what those terms even mean?

http://d3jonline.tripod.com/24-Reproduction/Neonatal_Homeostasis.htm

i guess you didn't know that the embryo doesn't start in the womb.... huh? i think you should think about what "adaptation" means.

My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
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