EPTPresident Obama Re-Elected - Page 455
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Nanikure
United States53 Posts
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
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aksfjh
United States4853 Posts
On September 07 2012 12:07 JonnyBNoHo wrote: Why not just replace coal plants with nat gas? Its cheaper and cleaner (though not perfectly clean ofc). If my SimCity experience has taught me anything, natural gas burning is a much lower energy output process. Otherwise, storage and transportation is a lot more hazardous and costly. | ||
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
On September 07 2012 12:08 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote: But if we can agree then that deregulation was one of the factors that led to the collapse why would you want to vote for Republicans who want to deregulate them further? Is that not just setting ourselves up for another repeat performance? Ironically, it was McCain that wanted to reinstate Glass-Steagall instead of the weaker restrictions Obama settled on. | ||
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
On September 07 2012 12:12 xDaunt wrote: Let's watch as all of the people who booed God now pray. Rub a dub dub, thanks for the grub, yay God? | ||
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ey215
United States546 Posts
On September 07 2012 12:09 xDaunt wrote: It was an empty rhetorical appeal. It was 2008 all over again. He needed to really make a case for himself with some very specific solutions. It just wasn't there. That sums it up pretty well. So basically the "Give us specifics!" crap that the Democrats have been peddling should be applied to him. He had a chance to really separate himself some here and went the safe route instead. | ||
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
On September 07 2012 12:08 TotalBalanceSC2 wrote: But if we can agree then that deregulation was one of the factors that led to the collapse why would you want to vote for Republicans who want to deregulate them further? Is that not just setting ourselves up for another repeat performance? I'm not for more deregulation. I want the regulatory system to be rationalized - fewer regulators with a mandate to make regulations simpler and more transparent. Right now there's too many regulators with too much overlap - banks can structure themselves to pick which regulator they report to. Complex regulations allows government buddies like Fannie Mae to lobby like crazy to get the regulations they want and no one knows because the regulations are too complex for us mere mortals to understand. I'd also like regulators to do their freaking job. The Fed know LIBOR was manipulated and said "ok". The FBI knew mortgage fraud was rampant in 2004, tried to stop it and apparently failed pretty horribly. | ||
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Mysticesper
United States1183 Posts
On September 07 2012 12:13 aksfjh wrote: If my SimCity experience has taught me anything, natural gas burning is a much lower energy output process. Otherwise, storage and transportation is a lot more hazardous and costly. Natural gas is great for home heating systems (furnaces, boilers). Outside of that, it's not great. | ||
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dvorakftw
681 Posts
On September 07 2012 11:42 JinDesu wrote: I'll agree with the education statement here. I am very pro-education. The Republicans don't talk about education enough for me. This is why conservatives don't talk about education much. The phrase "best education money can buy" is a little misleading. | ||
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JonnyBNoHo
United States6277 Posts
On September 07 2012 12:13 aksfjh wrote: If my SimCity experience has taught me anything, natural gas burning is a much lower energy output process. Otherwise, storage and transportation is a lot more hazardous and costly. Nat gas was so UP in that game. | ||
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
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dvorakftw
681 Posts
On September 07 2012 11:43 Nanikure wrote: I think the difference is that since he's the incumbent President people already have a general idea of his policy, whereas the Republicans who want him out need to provide an outline of what they would do differently instead of just talking shit about him. I think it's because there's a ridiculous double-standard that few on the left are willing to admit. | ||
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dvorakftw
681 Posts
On September 07 2012 11:47 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: “You might not be ready for diplomacy with Beijing if you can’t visit the Olympics w/o insulting our closest ally.” Amazing. It's like he knows no one has any clue about all the things he's done to England over the last three and a half years. Then again, I'm certain he considers an iPod with his speeches the greatest gift of all. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 07 2012 12:22 dvorakftw wrote: It's like he knows no one has any clue about all the things he's done to England over the last three and a half years. Then again, I'm certain he considers an iPod with his speeches the greatest gift of all. At least Obama had the courtesy to return the bust of Churchill rather than regift it to someone liked the French. | ||
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
On September 07 2012 12:09 xDaunt wrote: It was an empty rhetorical appeal. It was 2008 all over again. He needed to really make a case for himself with some very specific solutions. It just wasn't there. He was never going to convince you anyway. I swear you and savio are the same person. It was like he when he was elected Savio was going around saying what he needed to do, like he was a republican and had the same ideas/ideology. You and him disagree on some very basic things so anything he suggests will never be good enough for you because you will disagree with it from an ideological standpoint. | ||
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Minus`
United States174 Posts
On September 07 2012 12:22 dvorakftw wrote: It's like he knows no one has any clue about all the things he's done to England over the last three and a half years. Then again, I'm certain he considers an iPod with his speeches the greatest gift of all. You posted this already. They seemed like fairly mild offenses (for the most part) then, too. Also, do you have like a compendium of these links or something? You post a link to something relevant (barely, usually) in almost every post, usually about 2 minutes apart. It's as if you had a direct line to every talking point that's already been brought up, discussed, and debunked here since before the thread started. EDIT #2: On September 07 2012 12:18 dvorakftw wrote: I think it's because there's a ridiculous double-standard that few on the left are willing to admit. Oh, you. | ||
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xDaunt
United States17988 Posts
On September 07 2012 12:25 Sadist wrote: He was never going to convince you anyway. I swear you and savio are the same person. It was like he when he was elected Savio was going around saying what he needed to do, like he was a republican and had the same ideas/ideology. You and him disagree on some very basic things so anything he suggests will never be good enough for you because you will disagree with it from an ideological standpoint. Of course he doesn't need to convince me because he never will, just as he doesn't need to convince you because you are already in the bag. He needed to convince all of the swing voters out there who are looking around at their diminished circumstances and wondering why they want to give the current leadership another four years. He didn't do it. | ||
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Supert0fu
United States499 Posts
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Sadist
United States7328 Posts
On September 07 2012 12:28 xDaunt wrote: Of course he doesn't need to convince me because he never will, just as he doesn't need to convince you because you are already in the bag. He needed to convince all of the swing voters out there who are looking around at their diminished circumstances and wondering why they want to give the current leadership another four years. He didn't do it. According to you. Plenty of people had it bad during the Bush years (especially the late bush years), particularly in the Midwest. No one wants to go back to that garbage. | ||
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farvacola
United States18869 Posts
On September 07 2012 12:28 xDaunt wrote: Of course he doesn't need to convince me because he never will, just as he doesn't need to convince you because you are already in the bag. He needed to convince all of the swing voters out there who are looking around at their diminished circumstances and wondering why they want to give the current leadership another four years. He didn't do it. And what qualifies you to somehow magically sympathize with a demographic you admittedly have nothing in common with? | ||
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