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On August 11 2012 04:00 WniO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 03:57 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 03:53 DamnCats wrote:On August 11 2012 03:45 WniO wrote:
OkkkkKkkK I'll post one more time. Can someone explain why Obama's birth certificate was never examined closer when he released it? If you zoom up really close or in pdf format you can clearly see its been edited, (computer black text over gray blue real ink.) Dozens of layers used etc etc. I know there was a post on to a long ways back that pointed to a YouTube video explaining all the faults, but no one can tell me that was just scanned in like that, those special scanners only make a background layer and a text layer, not 50 layers... you can go to white house.gov or search google, and look at the thing itself. Li,e I said before idc if he was born elsewhere, but I'm surprised this never got solved. If it was real then wouldn't you think they would just scan it normally without editing I mean it just screams fake. It gets solved when fox news tells us it gets solved. NOT A MINUTE FUCKING BEFORE. Chop to it then oompa loompa. We need you on air stat! ... have any of you actually looked at it in illustrator or just PDF? Godamnit tell me how that's not fake, ink up close it not fucking perfect black.
It's not a fake.
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On August 11 2012 04:00 WniO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 03:57 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 03:53 DamnCats wrote:On August 11 2012 03:45 WniO wrote:
OkkkkKkkK I'll post one more time. Can someone explain why Obama's birth certificate was never examined closer when he released it? If you zoom up really close or in pdf format you can clearly see its been edited, (computer black text over gray blue real ink.) Dozens of layers used etc etc. I know there was a post on to a long ways back that pointed to a YouTube video explaining all the faults, but no one can tell me that was just scanned in like that, those special scanners only make a background layer and a text layer, not 50 layers... you can go to white house.gov or search google, and look at the thing itself. Li,e I said before idc if he was born elsewhere, but I'm surprised this never got solved. If it was real then wouldn't you think they would just scan it normally without editing I mean it just screams fake. It gets solved when fox news tells us it gets solved. NOT A MINUTE FUCKING BEFORE. Chop to it then oompa loompa. We need you on air stat! ... have any of you actually looked at it in illustrator or just PDF? Godamnit tell me how that's not fake, ink up close it not fucking perfect black.
Nope. I haven't looked at it. I was more interested in his GPA/passport. For some reason, people say that they never knew him at Columbia and Occidental, yet they graduated in the same class with the same major.
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On August 11 2012 03:45 WniO wrote:
OkkkkKkkK I'll post one more time. Can someone explain why Obama's birth certificate was never examined closer when he released it?
Because you would have to believe that:
a) The CIA and the IRS conspired with Obama's 2008 campaign to cover up his birthplace. Both organizations would have vetted Obama prior to his candidacy.
b) Hilary Clinton and John McCain campaign failed to find a shred of credible evidence of Obama not being American, or worse, are also conspiring with Obama to install him as president.
c) Despite having a successful career in Chicago and Illinois, Obama would be insane and audacious enough to attempt to invest thousands of hours and hundreds of millions of donations, and put his entire family and future in jeopardy, to become president when he fails to meet the most basic qualification.
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On August 11 2012 04:04 kwizach wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 04:00 WniO wrote:On August 11 2012 03:57 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 03:53 DamnCats wrote:On August 11 2012 03:45 WniO wrote:
OkkkkKkkK I'll post one more time. Can someone explain why Obama's birth certificate was never examined closer when he released it? If you zoom up really close or in pdf format you can clearly see its been edited, (computer black text over gray blue real ink.) Dozens of layers used etc etc. I know there was a post on to a long ways back that pointed to a YouTube video explaining all the faults, but no one can tell me that was just scanned in like that, those special scanners only make a background layer and a text layer, not 50 layers... you can go to white house.gov or search google, and look at the thing itself. Li,e I said before idc if he was born elsewhere, but I'm surprised this never got solved. If it was real then wouldn't you think they would just scan it normally without editing I mean it just screams fake. It gets solved when fox news tells us it gets solved. NOT A MINUTE FUCKING BEFORE. Chop to it then oompa loompa. We need you on air stat! ... have any of you actually looked at it in illustrator or just PDF? Godamnit tell me how that's not fake, ink up close it not fucking perfect black. It's not a fake.
That's why I posted, please show me so I can see, cause literally I was In the same boat u til I actually opened it up, I mean hell just zoom in and you will see my point. Please please someone tell me how its not fake. Its really that simple. JUST LOOK AT IT.
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On August 11 2012 04:04 Nymphaceae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 04:00 WniO wrote:On August 11 2012 03:57 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 03:53 DamnCats wrote:On August 11 2012 03:45 WniO wrote:
OkkkkKkkK I'll post one more time. Can someone explain why Obama's birth certificate was never examined closer when he released it? If you zoom up really close or in pdf format you can clearly see its been edited, (computer black text over gray blue real ink.) Dozens of layers used etc etc. I know there was a post on to a long ways back that pointed to a YouTube video explaining all the faults, but no one can tell me that was just scanned in like that, those special scanners only make a background layer and a text layer, not 50 layers... you can go to white house.gov or search google, and look at the thing itself. Li,e I said before idc if he was born elsewhere, but I'm surprised this never got solved. If it was real then wouldn't you think they would just scan it normally without editing I mean it just screams fake. It gets solved when fox news tells us it gets solved. NOT A MINUTE FUCKING BEFORE. Chop to it then oompa loompa. We need you on air stat! ... have any of you actually looked at it in illustrator or just PDF? Godamnit tell me how that's not fake, ink up close it not fucking perfect black. Nope. I haven't looked at it. I was more interested in his GPA/passport. For some reason, people say that they never knew him at Columbia and Occidental, yet they graduated in the same class with the same major.
I don't know 90% of my classmates either. Even if they were to make it big someday.
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On August 11 2012 04:10 WniO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 04:04 kwizach wrote:On August 11 2012 04:00 WniO wrote:On August 11 2012 03:57 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 03:53 DamnCats wrote:On August 11 2012 03:45 WniO wrote:
OkkkkKkkK I'll post one more time. Can someone explain why Obama's birth certificate was never examined closer when he released it? If you zoom up really close or in pdf format you can clearly see its been edited, (computer black text over gray blue real ink.) Dozens of layers used etc etc. I know there was a post on to a long ways back that pointed to a YouTube video explaining all the faults, but no one can tell me that was just scanned in like that, those special scanners only make a background layer and a text layer, not 50 layers... you can go to white house.gov or search google, and look at the thing itself. Li,e I said before idc if he was born elsewhere, but I'm surprised this never got solved. If it was real then wouldn't you think they would just scan it normally without editing I mean it just screams fake. It gets solved when fox news tells us it gets solved. NOT A MINUTE FUCKING BEFORE. Chop to it then oompa loompa. We need you on air stat! ... have any of you actually looked at it in illustrator or just PDF? Godamnit tell me how that's not fake, ink up close it not fucking perfect black. It's not a fake. That's why I posted, please show me so I can see, cause literally I was In the same boat u til I actually opened it up, I mean hell just zoom in and you will see my point. Please please someone tell me how its not fake. Its really that simple. JUST LOOK AT IT.
link pls. I have been working as a graphic designer for 14 years, and have Illustrator and Acrobat right in front of me.
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On August 11 2012 04:18 Defacer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 04:10 WniO wrote:On August 11 2012 04:04 kwizach wrote:On August 11 2012 04:00 WniO wrote:On August 11 2012 03:57 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 03:53 DamnCats wrote:On August 11 2012 03:45 WniO wrote:
OkkkkKkkK I'll post one more time. Can someone explain why Obama's birth certificate was never examined closer when he released it? If you zoom up really close or in pdf format you can clearly see its been edited, (computer black text over gray blue real ink.) Dozens of layers used etc etc. I know there was a post on to a long ways back that pointed to a YouTube video explaining all the faults, but no one can tell me that was just scanned in like that, those special scanners only make a background layer and a text layer, not 50 layers... you can go to white house.gov or search google, and look at the thing itself. Li,e I said before idc if he was born elsewhere, but I'm surprised this never got solved. If it was real then wouldn't you think they would just scan it normally without editing I mean it just screams fake. It gets solved when fox news tells us it gets solved. NOT A MINUTE FUCKING BEFORE. Chop to it then oompa loompa. We need you on air stat! ... have any of you actually looked at it in illustrator or just PDF? Godamnit tell me how that's not fake, ink up close it not fucking perfect black. It's not a fake. That's why I posted, please show me so I can see, cause literally I was In the same boat u til I actually opened it up, I mean hell just zoom in and you will see my point. Please please someone tell me how its not fake. Its really that simple. JUST LOOK AT IT. link pls. I have been working as a graphic designer for 14 years, and have Illustrator and Acrobat right in front of me.
ThNk you! I only have tablet atm but here http://m.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate
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On August 11 2012 04:21 WniO wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 04:18 Defacer wrote:On August 11 2012 04:10 WniO wrote:On August 11 2012 04:04 kwizach wrote:On August 11 2012 04:00 WniO wrote:On August 11 2012 03:57 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 03:53 DamnCats wrote:On August 11 2012 03:45 WniO wrote:
OkkkkKkkK I'll post one more time. Can someone explain why Obama's birth certificate was never examined closer when he released it? If you zoom up really close or in pdf format you can clearly see its been edited, (computer black text over gray blue real ink.) Dozens of layers used etc etc. I know there was a post on to a long ways back that pointed to a YouTube video explaining all the faults, but no one can tell me that was just scanned in like that, those special scanners only make a background layer and a text layer, not 50 layers... you can go to white house.gov or search google, and look at the thing itself. Li,e I said before idc if he was born elsewhere, but I'm surprised this never got solved. If it was real then wouldn't you think they would just scan it normally without editing I mean it just screams fake. It gets solved when fox news tells us it gets solved. NOT A MINUTE FUCKING BEFORE. Chop to it then oompa loompa. We need you on air stat! ... have any of you actually looked at it in illustrator or just PDF? Godamnit tell me how that's not fake, ink up close it not fucking perfect black. It's not a fake. That's why I posted, please show me so I can see, cause literally I was In the same boat u til I actually opened it up, I mean hell just zoom in and you will see my point. Please please someone tell me how its not fake. Its really that simple. JUST LOOK AT IT. link pls. I have been working as a graphic designer for 14 years, and have Illustrator and Acrobat right in front of me. ThNk you! I only have tablet atm but here http://m.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/04/27/president-obamas-long-form-birth-certificate
If that link you provided yourself doesn't convince you then.... as Jon Stewart says, we're in bad shape fellas.
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On August 11 2012 04:16 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 04:04 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:00 WniO wrote:On August 11 2012 03:57 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 03:53 DamnCats wrote:On August 11 2012 03:45 WniO wrote:
OkkkkKkkK I'll post one more time. Can someone explain why Obama's birth certificate was never examined closer when he released it? If you zoom up really close or in pdf format you can clearly see its been edited, (computer black text over gray blue real ink.) Dozens of layers used etc etc. I know there was a post on to a long ways back that pointed to a YouTube video explaining all the faults, but no one can tell me that was just scanned in like that, those special scanners only make a background layer and a text layer, not 50 layers... you can go to white house.gov or search google, and look at the thing itself. Li,e I said before idc if he was born elsewhere, but I'm surprised this never got solved. If it was real then wouldn't you think they would just scan it normally without editing I mean it just screams fake. It gets solved when fox news tells us it gets solved. NOT A MINUTE FUCKING BEFORE. Chop to it then oompa loompa. We need you on air stat! ... have any of you actually looked at it in illustrator or just PDF? Godamnit tell me how that's not fake, ink up close it not fucking perfect black. Nope. I haven't looked at it. I was more interested in his GPA/passport. For some reason, people say that they never knew him at Columbia and Occidental, yet they graduated in the same class with the same major. I don't know 90% of my classmates either. Even if they were to make it big someday.
Are you a poly sci major? I know about 80% of mine, but I'm friendly.
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On August 11 2012 04:23 Nymphaceae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 04:16 JinDesu wrote:On August 11 2012 04:04 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:00 WniO wrote:On August 11 2012 03:57 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 03:53 DamnCats wrote:On August 11 2012 03:45 WniO wrote:
OkkkkKkkK I'll post one more time. Can someone explain why Obama's birth certificate was never examined closer when he released it? If you zoom up really close or in pdf format you can clearly see its been edited, (computer black text over gray blue real ink.) Dozens of layers used etc etc. I know there was a post on to a long ways back that pointed to a YouTube video explaining all the faults, but no one can tell me that was just scanned in like that, those special scanners only make a background layer and a text layer, not 50 layers... you can go to white house.gov or search google, and look at the thing itself. Li,e I said before idc if he was born elsewhere, but I'm surprised this never got solved. If it was real then wouldn't you think they would just scan it normally without editing I mean it just screams fake. It gets solved when fox news tells us it gets solved. NOT A MINUTE FUCKING BEFORE. Chop to it then oompa loompa. We need you on air stat! ... have any of you actually looked at it in illustrator or just PDF? Godamnit tell me how that's not fake, ink up close it not fucking perfect black. Nope. I haven't looked at it. I was more interested in his GPA/passport. For some reason, people say that they never knew him at Columbia and Occidental, yet they graduated in the same class with the same major. I don't know 90% of my classmates either. Even if they were to make it big someday. Are you a poly sci major? I know about 80% of mine, but I'm friendly.
Engineering major - knew the ones I worked in groups with and the ones who played games with me.
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I like how we're so retro that even the election has turned into Obama in 1983 vs Romney in 1984 (at Bain).
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On August 11 2012 04:26 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 04:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:16 JinDesu wrote:On August 11 2012 04:04 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:00 WniO wrote:On August 11 2012 03:57 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 03:53 DamnCats wrote:On August 11 2012 03:45 WniO wrote:
OkkkkKkkK I'll post one more time. Can someone explain why Obama's birth certificate was never examined closer when he released it? If you zoom up really close or in pdf format you can clearly see its been edited, (computer black text over gray blue real ink.) Dozens of layers used etc etc. I know there was a post on to a long ways back that pointed to a YouTube video explaining all the faults, but no one can tell me that was just scanned in like that, those special scanners only make a background layer and a text layer, not 50 layers... you can go to white house.gov or search google, and look at the thing itself. Li,e I said before idc if he was born elsewhere, but I'm surprised this never got solved. If it was real then wouldn't you think they would just scan it normally without editing I mean it just screams fake. It gets solved when fox news tells us it gets solved. NOT A MINUTE FUCKING BEFORE. Chop to it then oompa loompa. We need you on air stat! ... have any of you actually looked at it in illustrator or just PDF? Godamnit tell me how that's not fake, ink up close it not fucking perfect black. Nope. I haven't looked at it. I was more interested in his GPA/passport. For some reason, people say that they never knew him at Columbia and Occidental, yet they graduated in the same class with the same major. I don't know 90% of my classmates either. Even if they were to make it big someday. Are you a poly sci major? I know about 80% of mine, but I'm friendly. Engineering major - knew the ones I worked in groups with and the ones who played games with me.
What kind?
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On August 11 2012 04:29 Nymphaceae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 04:26 JinDesu wrote:On August 11 2012 04:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:16 JinDesu wrote:On August 11 2012 04:04 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:00 WniO wrote:On August 11 2012 03:57 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 03:53 DamnCats wrote:On August 11 2012 03:45 WniO wrote:
OkkkkKkkK I'll post one more time. Can someone explain why Obama's birth certificate was never examined closer when he released it? If you zoom up really close or in pdf format you can clearly see its been edited, (computer black text over gray blue real ink.) Dozens of layers used etc etc. I know there was a post on to a long ways back that pointed to a YouTube video explaining all the faults, but no one can tell me that was just scanned in like that, those special scanners only make a background layer and a text layer, not 50 layers... you can go to white house.gov or search google, and look at the thing itself. Li,e I said before idc if he was born elsewhere, but I'm surprised this never got solved. If it was real then wouldn't you think they would just scan it normally without editing I mean it just screams fake. It gets solved when fox news tells us it gets solved. NOT A MINUTE FUCKING BEFORE. Chop to it then oompa loompa. We need you on air stat! ... have any of you actually looked at it in illustrator or just PDF? Godamnit tell me how that's not fake, ink up close it not fucking perfect black. Nope. I haven't looked at it. I was more interested in his GPA/passport. For some reason, people say that they never knew him at Columbia and Occidental, yet they graduated in the same class with the same major. I don't know 90% of my classmates either. Even if they were to make it big someday. Are you a poly sci major? I know about 80% of mine, but I'm friendly. Engineering major - knew the ones I worked in groups with and the ones who played games with me. What kind?
Electrical engineering.
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Nymphaceae, is your goal to steer this thread in whatever new random direction possible with each post or something?
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On August 11 2012 04:30 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 04:29 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:26 JinDesu wrote:On August 11 2012 04:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:16 JinDesu wrote:On August 11 2012 04:04 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:00 WniO wrote:On August 11 2012 03:57 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 03:53 DamnCats wrote:On August 11 2012 03:45 WniO wrote:
OkkkkKkkK I'll post one more time. Can someone explain why Obama's birth certificate was never examined closer when he released it? If you zoom up really close or in pdf format you can clearly see its been edited, (computer black text over gray blue real ink.) Dozens of layers used etc etc. I know there was a post on to a long ways back that pointed to a YouTube video explaining all the faults, but no one can tell me that was just scanned in like that, those special scanners only make a background layer and a text layer, not 50 layers... you can go to white house.gov or search google, and look at the thing itself. Li,e I said before idc if he was born elsewhere, but I'm surprised this never got solved. If it was real then wouldn't you think they would just scan it normally without editing I mean it just screams fake. It gets solved when fox news tells us it gets solved. NOT A MINUTE FUCKING BEFORE. Chop to it then oompa loompa. We need you on air stat! ... have any of you actually looked at it in illustrator or just PDF? Godamnit tell me how that's not fake, ink up close it not fucking perfect black. Nope. I haven't looked at it. I was more interested in his GPA/passport. For some reason, people say that they never knew him at Columbia and Occidental, yet they graduated in the same class with the same major. I don't know 90% of my classmates either. Even if they were to make it big someday. Are you a poly sci major? I know about 80% of mine, but I'm friendly. Engineering major - knew the ones I worked in groups with and the ones who played games with me. What kind? Electrical engineering.
I'd figure that there wouldn't be too many of those. I am biomed.
Anyways, as an EE, how would you change the society?
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On August 11 2012 04:32 Nymphaceae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 04:30 JinDesu wrote:On August 11 2012 04:29 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:26 JinDesu wrote:On August 11 2012 04:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:16 JinDesu wrote:On August 11 2012 04:04 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:00 WniO wrote:On August 11 2012 03:57 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 03:53 DamnCats wrote:
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It gets solved when fox news tells us it gets solved. NOT A MINUTE FUCKING BEFORE. Chop to it then oompa loompa. We need you on air stat! ... have any of you actually looked at it in illustrator or just PDF? Godamnit tell me how that's not fake, ink up close it not fucking perfect black. Nope. I haven't looked at it. I was more interested in his GPA/passport. For some reason, people say that they never knew him at Columbia and Occidental, yet they graduated in the same class with the same major. I don't know 90% of my classmates either. Even if they were to make it big someday. Are you a poly sci major? I know about 80% of mine, but I'm friendly. Engineering major - knew the ones I worked in groups with and the ones who played games with me. What kind? Electrical engineering. I'd figure that there wouldn't be too many of those. I am biomed. Anyways, as an EE, how would you change the society?
I wouldn't. I work in an engineering firm.
Beyond this answer - I think PM would be best, unless you have a relevant post based on my response.
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On August 11 2012 04:32 kwizach wrote:
Nymphaceae, is your goal to steer this thread in whatever new random direction possible with each post or something?
Sorry,
We should go back to talking about birth certificates. I can't wait to compare Romney's with Obama's.
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On August 11 2012 04:34 JinDesu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 04:32 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:30 JinDesu wrote:On August 11 2012 04:29 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:26 JinDesu wrote:On August 11 2012 04:23 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:16 JinDesu wrote:On August 11 2012 04:04 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 04:00 WniO wrote:On August 11 2012 03:57 Nymphaceae wrote:
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Chop to it then oompa loompa. We need you on air stat! ... have any of you actually looked at it in illustrator or just PDF? Godamnit tell me how that's not fake, ink up close it not fucking perfect black. Nope. I haven't looked at it. I was more interested in his GPA/passport. For some reason, people say that they never knew him at Columbia and Occidental, yet they graduated in the same class with the same major. I don't know 90% of my classmates either. Even if they were to make it big someday. Are you a poly sci major? I know about 80% of mine, but I'm friendly. Engineering major - knew the ones I worked in groups with and the ones who played games with me. What kind? Electrical engineering. I'd figure that there wouldn't be too many of those. I am biomed. Anyways, as an EE, how would you change the society? I wouldn't. I work in an engineering firm. Beyond this answer - I think PM would be best, unless you have a relevant post based on my response.
I was just curious from an EE's perspective. Was wondering about your thoughts on nuclear energy, and semiconductors.
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Just kinda want to park this here for my own future reference next time the debate involving "He had a super majority!" comes up.
http://delong.typepad.com/sdj/2012/08/things-wrong-with-hassett-hubbard-mankiw-and-taylor-the-romney-program-for-economic-recovery-growth-and-jobs.html
There were at least seven Democratic senators in 2009-2010—Baucus, Landrieu, Lincoln, Bayh, Nelson, Pryor, Spector, Webb—who were “professionally bipartisan” in that they would not vote for cloture in any but the most extraordinary circumstances without Republicans voting by their side. Unless the Democrats could peel off a Collins, a Snowe, or a Voinovich, they had not a filibuster-proof working majority of 60 but rather a filibuster-vulnerable working majority of 53.
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On August 11 2012 03:45 WniO wrote:
OkkkkKkkK I'll post one more time. Can someone explain why Obama's birth certificate was never examined closer when he released it? If you zoom up really close or in pdf format you can clearly see its been edited, (computer black text over gray blue real ink.) Dozens of layers used etc etc. I know there was a post on to a long ways back that pointed to a YouTube video explaining all the faults, but no one can tell me that was just scanned in like that, those special scanners only make a background layer and a text layer, not 50 layers... you can go to white house.gov or search google, and look at the thing itself. Li,e I said before idc if he was born elsewhere, but I'm surprised this never got solved. If it was real then wouldn't you think they would just scan it normally without editing I mean it just screams fake.
I'm not an expert in photoshop or layers or anything but my reasoning is that if he was looking to fool people, a person with his resources could have made it indistinguishable from a real one. If he wanted to forge it, you'd never know.
I don't claim to know whether or not it's been digitally altered, but I doubt they just threw it into the scanner and uploaded it. That doesn't mean it isn't real.
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