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Coverpunch, he's not a jerk and you're being illogical. The whole point is that Romney can't defend the arguments laid against him. Do you even know what he did with Bain Capital and all his other previous roles?
Do you understand one of his primary jobs was to deny pensions and retirement funds to company workers - yes he was hired by these companies to generate savings based on the cuts to those pensions and retirement funds. He became very successful at it too.
No he does not know how to create jobs and no he has no right to ask to anyone for the 'personal' attacks to stop. No one is criticizing his diet or weight, the focus is on his lack of ethics, moral decency and utter disregard for other human beings. Things you'd consider uhhh, relevant in your possibly next potus?
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On August 11 2012 09:45 Mr.Faces wrote:
Coverpunch, he's not a jerk and you're being illogical. The whole point is that Romney can't defend the arguments laid against him. Do you even know what he did with Bain Capital and all his other previous roles?
Do you understand one of his primary jobs was to deny pensions and retirement funds to company workers - yes he was hired by these companies to generate savings based on the cuts to those pensions and retirement funds. He became very successful at it too.
No he does not know how to create jobs and no he has no right to ask to anyone for the 'personal' attacks to stop. No one is criticizing his diet or weight, the focus is on his lack of ethics, moral decency and utter disregard for other human beings. Things you'd consider uhhh, relevant in your possibly next potus?
Stop it you are going to make him cry.... he has already thrown in the towel by asking for a truce
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On August 11 2012 09:45 Mr.Faces wrote:
Coverpunch, he's not a jerk and you're being illogical. The whole point is that Romney can't defend the arguments laid against him. Do you even know what he did with Bain Capital and all his other previous roles?
Do you understand one of his primary jobs was to deny pensions and retirement funds to company workers - yes he was hired by these companies to generate savings based on the cuts to those pensions and retirement funds. He became very successful at it too.
No he does not know how to create jobs and no he has no right to ask to anyone for the 'personal' attacks to stop. No one is criticizing his diet or weight, the focus is on his lack of ethics, moral decency and utter disregard for other human beings. Things you'd consider uhhh, relevant in your possibly next potus?
I thought that by denying some one retirement money was the same as making a job for a younger person. It definitely works that way in the medical field.
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On August 11 2012 10:07 Nymphaceae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 09:45 Mr.Faces wrote:
Coverpunch, he's not a jerk and you're being illogical. The whole point is that Romney can't defend the arguments laid against him. Do you even know what he did with Bain Capital and all his other previous roles?
Do you understand one of his primary jobs was to deny pensions and retirement funds to company workers - yes he was hired by these companies to generate savings based on the cuts to those pensions and retirement funds. He became very successful at it too.
No he does not know how to create jobs and no he has no right to ask to anyone for the 'personal' attacks to stop. No one is criticizing his diet or weight, the focus is on his lack of ethics, moral decency and utter disregard for other human beings. Things you'd consider uhhh, relevant in your possibly next potus? I thought that by denying some one retirement money was the same as making a job for a younger person. It definitely works that way in the medical field.
No, denying retirement money is done to increase payouts to major shareholders. The effect on younger workers is either to increase competition for jobs (because the older workers can no longer afford to retire), or to increase the taxes they pay because they have to support an impoverised older population.
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On August 11 2012 10:18 Jumbled wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 10:07 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 09:45 Mr.Faces wrote:
Coverpunch, he's not a jerk and you're being illogical. The whole point is that Romney can't defend the arguments laid against him. Do you even know what he did with Bain Capital and all his other previous roles?
Do you understand one of his primary jobs was to deny pensions and retirement funds to company workers - yes he was hired by these companies to generate savings based on the cuts to those pensions and retirement funds. He became very successful at it too.
No he does not know how to create jobs and no he has no right to ask to anyone for the 'personal' attacks to stop. No one is criticizing his diet or weight, the focus is on his lack of ethics, moral decency and utter disregard for other human beings. Things you'd consider uhhh, relevant in your possibly next potus? I thought that by denying some one retirement money was the same as making a job for a younger person. It definitely works that way in the medical field. No, denying retirement money is done to increase payouts to major shareholders. The effect on younger workers is either to increase competition for jobs (because the older workers can no longer afford to retire), or to increase the taxes they pay because they have to support an impoverised older population.
In the medical field, the problem is keeping up with technology that's growing too fast. Often times the younger pharmacists will have the better chance of doing a higher paying job, like nuclear pharmacy, while the older nuclear pharmacist gets cut, and has to work at Big B drugs or winn dixie :\
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On August 11 2012 09:45 Mr.Faces wrote:
Coverpunch, he's not a jerk and you're being illogical. The whole point is that Romney can't defend the arguments laid against him. Do you even know what he did with Bain Capital and all his other previous roles?
Do you understand one of his primary jobs was to deny pensions and retirement funds to company workers - yes he was hired by these companies to generate savings based on the cuts to those pensions and retirement funds. He became very successful at it too.
No he does not know how to create jobs and no he has no right to ask to anyone for the 'personal' attacks to stop. No one is criticizing his diet or weight, the focus is on his lack of ethics, moral decency and utter disregard for other human beings. Things you'd consider uhhh, relevant in your possibly next potus?
On a certain level I agree with you, Romney has to learn to face tough and perhaps unfair criticism because that's basically how Congress treats the president these days.
But the campaign has gotten to a point where it's entirely personal and nothing substantive. Romney is starting to face allegations that are just brazenly untrue and unfair, such as the last ad that implies he literally killed someone just because he was good at his job. The craziest part is that Obama won the 2008 campaign in large part PROMISING TO CHANGE THIS. Not make it worse than ever.
Romney is asking for a little decorum and a return to talking about the issues. That's really not too much to ask, is it?
And for the record, nobody has accused Obama of showing ethics, moral decency, or regard for other human beings while he's been in the White House. That's not really the main qualification we want in our president. If you really care so much about people, why aren't you spitting venom at Obama for selling the rule of law to banks for $25 billion? Why aren't you protesting that he hasn't close Guantanamo Bay and that if you believe them on drones, Barack Obama has personally ordered the deaths of some 2000 people?
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But it's not possible for the election to be about anything substantive! That's what mass media DOES. The election cannot be about anything that is more complicated than can be expressed in 15 seconds or 140 characters.
#themediumisthemessage
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To be fair, the backlash against that ad about Romney killing his wife probably would have reflected incredibly poorly on Obama if that Andrea Saul thing hadn't distracted people.
But healthcare is broken in this country. Obamacare doesn't go far enough. Not nearly enough.
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On August 11 2012 12:19 coverpunch wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 09:45 Mr.Faces wrote:
Coverpunch, he's not a jerk and you're being illogical. The whole point is that Romney can't defend the arguments laid against him. Do you even know what he did with Bain Capital and all his other previous roles?
Do you understand one of his primary jobs was to deny pensions and retirement funds to company workers - yes he was hired by these companies to generate savings based on the cuts to those pensions and retirement funds. He became very successful at it too.
No he does not know how to create jobs and no he has no right to ask to anyone for the 'personal' attacks to stop. No one is criticizing his diet or weight, the focus is on his lack of ethics, moral decency and utter disregard for other human beings. Things you'd consider uhhh, relevant in your possibly next potus? Romney is asking for a little decorum and a return to talking about the issues. That's really not too much to ask, is it?
Romney himself made his experience as a businessman an integral part of his campaign, so it's only legitimate to look at his actual record (I'm not talking about the death ad).
Also, one of the issues is, in fact, the rates at which the wealthiest are taxed.
Finally, let's not be naive here - Romney has been continuously lying about Obama and his policies throughout the campaign. Very recently, he chose to take the "you didn't build that" quote out of context and use it to attack Obama personally by decrying his supposedly "anti-American values philosophy". That's the definition of a personal attack - and a dishonest one at that. Romney only wants to go back to "discussing issues" because he can lie his ass off with only a small portion of the media calling him out on it, while it's much harder to do the same with his personal, documented record.
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Luckily for us, there are Olympics to divide our attention from more important debates 
I really how media present things (And I hate Tweeter grrrrrrrr). Everything is cut, everything simplified and taken out of context. Everything is dumbed down. We don't present ideas anymore, all we hear are promises promises promises, and attacks of course. (We have elections too here in Quebec, Canada). Practically no explanations, nothing. So depressing
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On August 11 2012 10:07 Nymphaceae wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 09:45 Mr.Faces wrote:
Coverpunch, he's not a jerk and you're being illogical. The whole point is that Romney can't defend the arguments laid against him. Do you even know what he did with Bain Capital and all his other previous roles?
Do you understand one of his primary jobs was to deny pensions and retirement funds to company workers - yes he was hired by these companies to generate savings based on the cuts to those pensions and retirement funds. He became very successful at it too.
No he does not know how to create jobs and no he has no right to ask to anyone for the 'personal' attacks to stop. No one is criticizing his diet or weight, the focus is on his lack of ethics, moral decency and utter disregard for other human beings. Things you'd consider uhhh, relevant in your possibly next potus? I thought that by denying some one retirement money was the same as making a job for a younger person. It definitely works that way in the medical field.
If you think about it, you can see why this logic is a bit silly. I mean, cutting retirement benefits hurts young employees just as much as older employees, since both of them will never see the benefits-the younger people just have longer until they feel the loss.
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and he chose paul ryan, gggggg just puts him in a worse position
saw on news :o
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NEWS:
Romney's comm team was informed tonight they are to be at the USS Wisconsin in Virginia very early tomorrow morning. They are assuming it is the VP announcement.
Romney-Ryan ticket.
edit: I knew this a few hours ago, so :-P
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On August 11 2012 13:09 TheTenthDoc wrote:Show nested quote +On August 11 2012 10:07 Nymphaceae wrote:On August 11 2012 09:45 Mr.Faces wrote:
Coverpunch, he's not a jerk and you're being illogical. The whole point is that Romney can't defend the arguments laid against him. Do you even know what he did with Bain Capital and all his other previous roles?
Do you understand one of his primary jobs was to deny pensions and retirement funds to company workers - yes he was hired by these companies to generate savings based on the cuts to those pensions and retirement funds. He became very successful at it too.
No he does not know how to create jobs and no he has no right to ask to anyone for the 'personal' attacks to stop. No one is criticizing his diet or weight, the focus is on his lack of ethics, moral decency and utter disregard for other human beings. Things you'd consider uhhh, relevant in your possibly next potus? I thought that by denying some one retirement money was the same as making a job for a younger person. It definitely works that way in the medical field. If you think about it, you can see why this logic is a bit silly. I mean, cutting retirement benefits hurts young employees just as much as older employees, since both of them will never see the benefits-the younger people just have longer until they feel the loss.
Thinking about the future?? Blasphemy!
(in postmodernity we can trade the future, but not think about it)
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Paul Ryan?! Like handing a gift to the Obama camp. Get ready for the privatized Medicare quotes.
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NBC is confirming it, 3 sources.
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Romney will lose the 65+ vote with this pick.
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Not to mention Paul Ryan voted for the Auto Bailout, TARP, and Medicare Part D. How will Romney answer that?
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Republicans - Throwing away the election with the VP pick since 2008.
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