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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
Shiragaku
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Hong Kong4308 Posts
August 11 2012 04:55 GMT
#5361
He voted against SOPA at least...but that is not enough to earn my respect.
Tarot
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada440 Posts
August 11 2012 04:59 GMT
#5362
Is there anything particularly bad about him? From a glance at wikipedia, it seems like he's one of the more sane republicans.
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 05:08:17
August 11 2012 05:08 GMT
#5363
Here is where he discusses why Medicare/Medicaid is the single biggest financial problem facing the country today:



The dodge by the President at the end is pretty funny as well...
"En taro adun, Executor."
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
August 11 2012 05:11 GMT
#5364
On August 11 2012 13:51 Mohdoo wrote:
Republicans - Throwing away the election with the VP pick since 2008.


Haha so true.

I remember the precise moment I knew that mccain would lose the election...
shikata ga nai
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 05:13:00
August 11 2012 05:12 GMT
#5365
On August 11 2012 13:27 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Paul Ryan?! Like handing a gift to the Obama camp. Get ready for the privatized Medicare quotes.


Better privatized than bankrupt... With how bad things are getting I think people are finally realizing we are going to need to cut back before it's too late.
"En taro adun, Executor."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 11 2012 05:12 GMT
#5366
I don't know what y'all are smoking; Ryan is a great pick. He's one of the few picks that will inspire moderate republicans, conservatives, and the tea party members. More importantly, he helps create a clear ideological contrast between a Romney presidency and the Obama presidency, which has been lacking thus far. Just watch. There's going to be a whole helluva of lot of talk about the national debt and deficit in the coming weeks.
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 05:15:42
August 11 2012 05:13 GMT
#5367
On August 11 2012 14:12 xDaunt wrote:
I don't know what y'all are smoking; Ryan is a great pick. He's one of the few picks that will inspire moderate republicans, conservatives, and the tea party members. More importantly, he helps create a clear ideological contrast between a Romney presidency and the Obama presidency, which has been lacking thus far. Just watch. There's going to be a whole helluva of lot of talk about the national debt and deficit in the coming weeks.


He's also very well kept and well spoken.

No Dick Cheney that's for sure.
"En taro adun, Executor."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 11 2012 05:14 GMT
#5368
On August 11 2012 14:12 xDaunt wrote:
I don't know what y'all are smoking; Ryan is a great pick. He's one of the few picks that will inspire moderate republicans, conservatives, and the tea party members. More importantly, he helps create a clear ideological contrast between a Romney presidency and the Obama presidency, which has been lacking thus far. Just watch. There's going to be a whole helluva of lot of talk about the national debt and deficit in the coming weeks.


You are aware Paul Ryan is/was pro bailout correct?
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Chriscras
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)2812 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 05:17:49
August 11 2012 05:17 GMT
#5369
On August 11 2012 14:14 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 14:12 xDaunt wrote:
I don't know what y'all are smoking; Ryan is a great pick. He's one of the few picks that will inspire moderate republicans, conservatives, and the tea party members. More importantly, he helps create a clear ideological contrast between a Romney presidency and the Obama presidency, which has been lacking thus far. Just watch. There's going to be a whole helluva of lot of talk about the national debt and deficit in the coming weeks.


You are aware Paul Ryan is/was pro bailout correct?


Bailout actually plays well in the midwest swing states. Probailout voters can vote republican too you know and Ryan is already very popular with the base.

So far I hear a lot of boogieman problems but nothing substantial other than possibly the over 65 vote (but are they really gonna vote for Obama? What about their grandkids/legacy?)
"En taro adun, Executor."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 11 2012 05:17 GMT
#5370
On August 11 2012 14:14 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 14:12 xDaunt wrote:
I don't know what y'all are smoking; Ryan is a great pick. He's one of the few picks that will inspire moderate republicans, conservatives, and the tea party members. More importantly, he helps create a clear ideological contrast between a Romney presidency and the Obama presidency, which has been lacking thus far. Just watch. There's going to be a whole helluva of lot of talk about the national debt and deficit in the coming weeks.


You are aware Paul Ryan is/was pro bailout correct?

So was almost everyone else. Everyone knows Ryan is a fiscal hawk, which is why the tea party loves him.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
August 11 2012 05:19 GMT
#5371
Is he a fiscal-hawk-for-everything-but-military kind of fiscal hawk?

Just an honest question, I live under a rock so I don't really know about this guy
shikata ga nai
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 11 2012 05:20 GMT
#5372
On August 11 2012 14:19 sam!zdat wrote:
Is he a fiscal-hawk-for-everything-but-military kind of fiscal hawk?

Just an honest question, I live under a rock so I don't really know about this guy

He probably is. I doubt that he'd have made it as far in the republican leadership if he wasn't supportive of military spending.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
August 11 2012 05:21 GMT
#5373
Can you explain the thinking behind that position? I don't really understand. Is it because of demographic that is skewed in terms of military-related employment?
shikata ga nai
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 05:25:03
August 11 2012 05:24 GMT
#5374
Well, he's well spoken and doesn't seem like someone pulled out of a trailer park. It's certainly a step up from past republican picks. I don't think it's a bad choice considering the options. There's some sticking points that could bother people on both sides, but at least this guy can hold his own overall.
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
August 11 2012 05:24 GMT
#5375
Seems that it was leaked to get control of the Sunday news and not have to wait for another 5 days while the Campaign bleeds from it's recent fumbles.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
August 11 2012 05:26 GMT
#5376
On August 11 2012 14:21 sam!zdat wrote:
Can you explain the thinking behind that position? I don't really understand. Is it because of demographic that is skewed in terms of military-related employment?

The military is the most respected government institution in the country. Among conservatives, there is a very strong sense of patriotism, if not outright nationalism. We want a strong military, we like knowing that our troops are the best in the world, and we want to keep it that way.
woody60707
Profile Joined November 2010
United States1863 Posts
August 11 2012 05:27 GMT
#5377
On August 11 2012 14:08 Chriscras wrote:
Here is where he discusses why Medicare/Medicaid is the single biggest financial problem facing the country today:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JepTo-oFry8

The dodge by the President at the end is pretty funny as well...

It's all a numbers game. The bad news is I don't know who is being honest here. I'm sure the same goes for 99.9% of people. ...sadly I'm also sure most of the 99.9% think they know.
Zahir
Profile Joined March 2012
United States947 Posts
August 11 2012 05:29 GMT
#5378
Anyone got any idea how the surveillance program revealed by wikileaks is going to effect the election? I can see Obama taking quite a hit if Romney hits hard on this one.
What is best? To crush the Zerg, see them driven before you, and to hear the lamentations of the Protoss.
sam!zdat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5559 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-11 05:36:04
August 11 2012 05:31 GMT
#5379
On August 11 2012 14:26 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 11 2012 14:21 sam!zdat wrote:
Can you explain the thinking behind that position? I don't really understand. Is it because of demographic that is skewed in terms of military-related employment?

The military is the most respected government institution in the country. Among conservatives, there is a very strong sense of patriotism, if not outright nationalism. We want a strong military, we like knowing that our troops are the best in the world, and we want to keep it that way.


Do you have a recommended way to dissuade people from this absurd ideology?

edit: I mean, I feel like we already had ww1, it was fun and all, but more of that?
shikata ga nai
nennx
Profile Joined April 2010
United States310 Posts
August 11 2012 05:36 GMT
#5380
well at least they interrupted the olympics to tell me this shit
Sup
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