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Hey guys! We'll be closing this thread shortly, but we will make an American politics megathread where we can continue the discussions in here.

The new thread can be found here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=383301
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 25 2012 05:36 GMT
#20861
On October 25 2012 14:35 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 14:12 Focuspants wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:10 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:07 Risen wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:06 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:03 Risen wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:02 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:01 Risen wrote:
On October 25 2012 13:52 Swazi Spring wrote:
The left-wing media is trolling, claiming the election already happened and Obama won:


You have a point somewhere? It was probably just a test that accidentally went onto a live feed.

Left-wing media is so biased that even their "tests" try to show Obama winning.


Or maybe that's how it's projected to be right now so that's what they went with? You still have no relevant point to this thread. Don't know why I expect anything substantial from you, but I'll keep hoping you shape up.

Romney is winning in all of the polls, so they clearly didn't go with what it is projected to be.


What...

Edit: And by what I mean, your source please?

Double Edit: Though to be fair, in this case I didn't post any source for my claim that Obama was leading the polls. It was something I assumed.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

And you pick the general election poll. If you understood your own political system, you would post polls related to the electoral college, the only thing that fucking matters.

The same site you just used as a source has a list of battleground states, in which Obama is leading in: Ohio, Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Minnesota, and is tied in Virginia. You are so intellectually dishonest, it is unreal. That, or you enjoy fooling yourself into finding "facts" to perpetuate your ridiculous beliefs.


You realize RCP is the standard, right?


I think you should go reread what he's saying :S
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 25 2012 05:38 GMT
#20862
On October 25 2012 14:36 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 14:29 Risen wrote:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/24/barack-obama/obama-says-romney-would-spend-2-trilllion-military/

Reducing the deficit, just a little at a time. Still don't see any sort of plan from Romney, and while this normally would just be some run of the mill thing, I find it ironic that he's supposed to "save" our economy (that's consistently showing improvement already) while pushing for stuff like this. Then again, front page of reddit is where I found this beauty. HAVE AT HER!

When's the last time a presidential candidate had a highly detailed plan?


I don't know. He doesn't as far as I'm aware, but if he's going to abandon everything else and run on an economic platform I'd like an outline? (Well, I say I, but I'm not an economic voter... so... not me. Other people. Those people)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
October 25 2012 05:40 GMT
#20863
On a funny note, I was assigned a Japanese newspaper article to read for Japanese class about the election. They mentioned the, "Is your life better now than it was four years ago?" line.

The things I would do to Reagan...
Writer
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 05:43:33
October 25 2012 05:42 GMT
#20864
On October 25 2012 14:36 JonnyBNoHo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 14:29 Risen wrote:
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/oct/24/barack-obama/obama-says-romney-would-spend-2-trilllion-military/

Reducing the deficit, just a little at a time. Still don't see any sort of plan from Romney, and while this normally would just be some run of the mill thing, I find it ironic that he's supposed to "save" our economy (that's consistently showing improvement already) while pushing for stuff like this. Then again, front page of reddit is where I found this beauty. HAVE AT HER!

When's the last time a presidential candidate had a highly detailed plan?


Clinton had some pretty detailed plans vis a vis healthcare. Gore did too, regarding Social Security. I think McCain would have without Palin derailing his candidacy. I think even Kerry had plans that moved beyond the sketchy stage; his inability to seem authoritative made it hard to tell though.
aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
October 25 2012 05:42 GMT
#20865
On October 25 2012 11:26 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right


I'm sorry, but this thread has shown several times that Canada is probably the only country that has citizens that understand American politics even remotely well (and even then it's pretty shoddy when you get the the nuances). The rest of the world just hates republicans because they like to hate Bush. True Story.

The rest of the world hates Republicans because they're further right than most of their right-wing extremist parties.
Focuspants
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada780 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 05:46:35
October 25 2012 05:44 GMT
#20866
On October 25 2012 14:35 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 14:12 Focuspants wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:10 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:07 Risen wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:06 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:03 Risen wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:02 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:01 Risen wrote:
On October 25 2012 13:52 Swazi Spring wrote:
The left-wing media is trolling, claiming the election already happened and Obama won:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2zYi2xn1jo


You have a point somewhere? It was probably just a test that accidentally went onto a live feed.

Left-wing media is so biased that even their "tests" try to show Obama winning.


Or maybe that's how it's projected to be right now so that's what they went with? You still have no relevant point to this thread. Don't know why I expect anything substantial from you, but I'll keep hoping you shape up.

Romney is winning in all of the polls, so they clearly didn't go with what it is projected to be.


What...

Edit: And by what I mean, your source please?

Double Edit: Though to be fair, in this case I didn't post any source for my claim that Obama was leading the polls. It was something I assumed.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

And you pick the general election poll. If you understood your own political system, you would post polls related to the electoral college, the only thing that fucking matters.

The same site you just used as a source has a list of battleground states, in which Obama is leading in: Ohio, Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Minnesota, and is tied in Virginia. You are so intellectually dishonest, it is unreal. That, or you enjoy fooling yourself into finding "facts" to perpetuate your ridiculous beliefs.


You realize RCP is the standard, right?


You do realize that that has absolutely nothing to do with what I am saying right? Please reread the conversation. Obama is ahead in the polls that matter when it comes to getting elected, which is contrary to what he is trying to prove. The website he used to "prove" his point, directly opposes his views. My point is, that he is calling everything that says Obama is "in the lead" Liberal bias junk, and says Romney is leading in ALL of the polls, while it is factually untrue, based on his very source. He chose to post a poll that means nothing when it comes to winning the election, simply because it is one Romney is ahead in.
Amnesty
Profile Joined April 2003
United States2054 Posts
October 25 2012 05:46 GMT
#20867
Last week Obama started to regain his edge in the womens vote. Romney has a edge in male votes but by a lesser margin. So that can be considered a net advantage for Obama. It's even better for Obama when you consider that women made up 53% of all the votes cast in 08 election.

I'm sure the gender gap will soon increase further for Obama now because Romney is on TV endorsing the 'Rape is gods intent' guy. It will be interesting to see the gender gap polls when they have enough time to react to this.
The sky just is, and goes on and on; and we play all our BW games beneath it.
Swazi Spring
Profile Joined September 2012
United States415 Posts
October 25 2012 05:58 GMT
#20868
On October 25 2012 14:42 aksfjh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 11:26 BluePanther wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right


I'm sorry, but this thread has shown several times that Canada is probably the only country that has citizens that understand American politics even remotely well (and even then it's pretty shoddy when you get the the nuances). The rest of the world just hates republicans because they like to hate Bush. True Story.

The rest of the world hates Republicans because they're further right than most of their right-wing extremist parties.

You can tell yourself this all you want, but it simply isn't true.
sevencck
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada705 Posts
October 25 2012 06:00 GMT
#20869
On October 25 2012 14:58 Swazi Spring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 14:42 aksfjh wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:26 BluePanther wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right


I'm sorry, but this thread has shown several times that Canada is probably the only country that has citizens that understand American politics even remotely well (and even then it's pretty shoddy when you get the the nuances). The rest of the world just hates republicans because they like to hate Bush. True Story.

The rest of the world hates Republicans because they're further right than most of their right-wing extremist parties.

You can tell yourself this all you want, but it simply isn't true.


It's true.
I like to think that the moon is there even if I am not looking at it. -Albert Einstein
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 25 2012 06:03 GMT
#20870
"Women voters, black voters, Hispanic voters, Southern voters, Catholic voters...." God I hate modern politics. You can't get any more divisive.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Swazi Spring
Profile Joined September 2012
United States415 Posts
October 25 2012 06:03 GMT
#20871
On October 25 2012 15:00 sevencck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 14:58 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:42 aksfjh wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:26 BluePanther wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right


I'm sorry, but this thread has shown several times that Canada is probably the only country that has citizens that understand American politics even remotely well (and even then it's pretty shoddy when you get the the nuances). The rest of the world just hates republicans because they like to hate Bush. True Story.

The rest of the world hates Republicans because they're further right than most of their right-wing extremist parties.

You can tell yourself this all you want, but it simply isn't true.


It's true.

Do you really want me to compare and contrast the policies of the Republican Party with those of the British National Party or the National Democratic Party (Germany) or the National Front (France)? It will not end well for you, sir.
sevencck
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada705 Posts
October 25 2012 06:07 GMT
#20872
On October 25 2012 15:03 Swazi Spring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 15:00 sevencck wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:58 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:42 aksfjh wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:26 BluePanther wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right


I'm sorry, but this thread has shown several times that Canada is probably the only country that has citizens that understand American politics even remotely well (and even then it's pretty shoddy when you get the the nuances). The rest of the world just hates republicans because they like to hate Bush. True Story.

The rest of the world hates Republicans because they're further right than most of their right-wing extremist parties.

You can tell yourself this all you want, but it simply isn't true.


It's true.

Do you really want me to compare and contrast the policies of the Republican Party with those of the British National Party or the National Democratic Party (Germany) or the National Front (France)? It will not end well for you, sir.


Yes, it will.
I like to think that the moon is there even if I am not looking at it. -Albert Einstein
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-25 06:08:22
October 25 2012 06:08 GMT
#20873
On October 25 2012 14:44 Focuspants wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 14:35 BluePanther wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:12 Focuspants wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:10 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:07 Risen wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:06 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:03 Risen wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:02 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:01 Risen wrote:
On October 25 2012 13:52 Swazi Spring wrote:
The left-wing media is trolling, claiming the election already happened and Obama won:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2zYi2xn1jo


You have a point somewhere? It was probably just a test that accidentally went onto a live feed.

Left-wing media is so biased that even their "tests" try to show Obama winning.


Or maybe that's how it's projected to be right now so that's what they went with? You still have no relevant point to this thread. Don't know why I expect anything substantial from you, but I'll keep hoping you shape up.

Romney is winning in all of the polls, so they clearly didn't go with what it is projected to be.


What...

Edit: And by what I mean, your source please?

Double Edit: Though to be fair, in this case I didn't post any source for my claim that Obama was leading the polls. It was something I assumed.


http://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2012/president/us/general_election_romney_vs_obama-1171.html

And you pick the general election poll. If you understood your own political system, you would post polls related to the electoral college, the only thing that fucking matters.

The same site you just used as a source has a list of battleground states, in which Obama is leading in: Ohio, Iowa, New Hampshire, Nevada, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan and Minnesota, and is tied in Virginia. You are so intellectually dishonest, it is unreal. That, or you enjoy fooling yourself into finding "facts" to perpetuate your ridiculous beliefs.


You realize RCP is the standard, right?


You do realize that that has absolutely nothing to do with what I am saying right? Please reread the conversation. Obama is ahead in the polls that matter when it comes to getting elected, which is contrary to what he is trying to prove. The website he used to "prove" his point, directly opposes his views. My point is, that he is calling everything that says Obama is "in the lead" Liberal bias junk, and says Romney is leading in ALL of the polls, while it is factually untrue, based on his very source. He chose to post a poll that means nothing when it comes to winning the election, simply because it is one Romney is ahead in.


Someone called out the video which showed Obama winning the popular vote. He linked you a poll showing Obama wasn't winning the popular vote. I think you miswatched the video. It's not EC. It's Popular Vote.
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
October 25 2012 06:08 GMT
#20874
On October 25 2012 15:03 Swazi Spring wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 15:00 sevencck wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:58 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:42 aksfjh wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:26 BluePanther wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right


I'm sorry, but this thread has shown several times that Canada is probably the only country that has citizens that understand American politics even remotely well (and even then it's pretty shoddy when you get the the nuances). The rest of the world just hates republicans because they like to hate Bush. True Story.

The rest of the world hates Republicans because they're further right than most of their right-wing extremist parties.

You can tell yourself this all you want, but it simply isn't true.


It's true.

Do you really want me to compare and contrast the policies of the Republican Party with those of the British National Party or the National Democratic Party (Germany) or the National Front (France)? It will not end well for you, sir.

Do it! I'd love to hear the analysis.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
BluePanther
Profile Joined March 2011
United States2776 Posts
October 25 2012 06:09 GMT
#20875
On October 25 2012 15:00 sevencck wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 14:58 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:42 aksfjh wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:26 BluePanther wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right


I'm sorry, but this thread has shown several times that Canada is probably the only country that has citizens that understand American politics even remotely well (and even then it's pretty shoddy when you get the the nuances). The rest of the world just hates republicans because they like to hate Bush. True Story.

The rest of the world hates Republicans because they're further right than most of their right-wing extremist parties.

You can tell yourself this all you want, but it simply isn't true.


It's true.


It's not at all true. I'm a Republican, but I think most people would consider me a liberal if they talked policy with me.
Souma
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
2nd Worst City in CA8938 Posts
October 25 2012 06:14 GMT
#20876
On October 25 2012 15:09 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 15:00 sevencck wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:58 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:42 aksfjh wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:26 BluePanther wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right


I'm sorry, but this thread has shown several times that Canada is probably the only country that has citizens that understand American politics even remotely well (and even then it's pretty shoddy when you get the the nuances). The rest of the world just hates republicans because they like to hate Bush. True Story.

The rest of the world hates Republicans because they're further right than most of their right-wing extremist parties.

You can tell yourself this all you want, but it simply isn't true.


It's true.


It's not at all true. I'm a Republican, but I think most people would consider me a liberal if they talked policy with me.


It's true. Once again people needa stop throwing out minority examples in an attempt to discredit a larger trend.
Writer
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
October 25 2012 06:14 GMT
#20877
On October 25 2012 15:09 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 15:00 sevencck wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:58 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:42 aksfjh wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:26 BluePanther wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right


I'm sorry, but this thread has shown several times that Canada is probably the only country that has citizens that understand American politics even remotely well (and even then it's pretty shoddy when you get the the nuances). The rest of the world just hates republicans because they like to hate Bush. True Story.

The rest of the world hates Republicans because they're further right than most of their right-wing extremist parties.

You can tell yourself this all you want, but it simply isn't true.


It's true.


It's not at all true. I'm a Republican, but I think most people would consider me a liberal if they talked policy with me.

Do you consider yourself a typical example of the Republican core?
Swazi Spring
Profile Joined September 2012
United States415 Posts
October 25 2012 06:16 GMT
#20878
On October 25 2012 15:14 Souma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 15:09 BluePanther wrote:
On October 25 2012 15:00 sevencck wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:58 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:42 aksfjh wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:26 BluePanther wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right


I'm sorry, but this thread has shown several times that Canada is probably the only country that has citizens that understand American politics even remotely well (and even then it's pretty shoddy when you get the the nuances). The rest of the world just hates republicans because they like to hate Bush. True Story.

The rest of the world hates Republicans because they're further right than most of their right-wing extremist parties.

You can tell yourself this all you want, but it simply isn't true.


It's true.


It's not at all true. I'm a Republican, but I think most people would consider me a liberal if they talked policy with me.


It's true. Once again people needa stop throwing out minority examples in an attempt to discredit a larger trend.

Where is your proof?
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
October 25 2012 06:16 GMT
#20879
On October 25 2012 15:09 BluePanther wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2012 15:00 sevencck wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:58 Swazi Spring wrote:
On October 25 2012 14:42 aksfjh wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:26 BluePanther wrote:
On October 25 2012 11:20 nevermindthebollocks wrote:
Hey check this out. When you get away from fox news and get an unbiased view of who is better this is the result

[image loading]

single digits in almost every country for romney sounds about right


I'm sorry, but this thread has shown several times that Canada is probably the only country that has citizens that understand American politics even remotely well (and even then it's pretty shoddy when you get the the nuances). The rest of the world just hates republicans because they like to hate Bush. True Story.

The rest of the world hates Republicans because they're further right than most of their right-wing extremist parties.

You can tell yourself this all you want, but it simply isn't true.


It's true.


It's not at all true. I'm a Republican, but I think most people would consider me a liberal if they talked policy with me.


Same. I take it you're probably similar to me but value economic issues over social ones? (no negative connotation intended here)
Pufftrees Everyday>its like a rifter that just used X-Factor/Liquid'Nony: I hope no one lip read XD/Holyflare>it's like policy lynching but better/Resident Los Angeles bachelor
Darknat
Profile Joined March 2011
United States122 Posts
October 25 2012 06:17 GMT
#20880
On October 25 2012 15:03 jdseemoreglass wrote:
"Women voters, black voters, Hispanic voters, Southern voters, Catholic voters...." God I hate modern politics. You can't get any more divisive.


Indeed.
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