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FSKi
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United States901 Posts
April 12 2012 11:32 GMT
#41
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Prime`Rib
Profile Joined September 2010
United States613 Posts
April 12 2012 11:53 GMT
#42
First timer? They are aiming for something out of their reach. Dreamhack took more than a decade to grow into what it is today. I didn't expect much and I was right. M5 should have smelled the fail like Fnatic and Navi.
... funerals are insane, the chicks are so horny, its not even fair, its like fishing with dynamite ...
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
April 12 2012 12:49 GMT
#43
On April 12 2012 20:53 Prime`Rib wrote:
First timer? They are aiming for something out of their reach. Dreamhack took more than a decade to grow into what it is today. I didn't expect much and I was right. M5 should have smelled the fail like Fnatic and Navi.

thank you captain hindsight
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45437 Posts
April 12 2012 13:14 GMT
#44
It's terrible when organizations try to put together something like this and then it gets screwed up by a few people or groups out of their control x.x
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Griefer
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia171 Posts
April 12 2012 13:21 GMT
#45
Seems like posturing and hollow threats used to scare off the victims. To be expected from a culture where corruption is so heavily ingrained. Never-the-less it's sickening if true, and just a deeper hole dug.
EmperorKira
Profile Joined February 2012
United Kingdom107 Posts
April 12 2012 13:22 GMT
#46
Its India, that place has a bad reputation for these kind of things. You'd probably do better by even hosting it in Pakistan!
PiGStarcraft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Australia999 Posts
April 12 2012 14:14 GMT
#47
I was approached to enter this. I was tempted after being told there would be no real competition etc. However I demanded questions as I would for any event that is unheard of and taking part in a 3rd world country. It was really obvious from the evasive answers "that's being handled by someone else im not sure"
etc. that this was, whilst not necessarily a scam, definitely lacking any evidence that it would deliver any of the grand promises.

Myself and my manager were highly amused when we saw that it was being organised by an organisation called "WTF"

Anyone that went to this I feel really sorry for, and hope they grow wiser from the experience.
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SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
April 12 2012 14:23 GMT
#48
On April 12 2012 22:22 EmperorKira wrote:
Its India, that place has a bad reputation for these kind of things. You'd probably do better by even hosting it in Pakistan!

Ha.Ha. I found ur comment extremely amusing. Well to be fair it has been only 60 yrs of independence since it was enslaved by the British rule. Divide and conquer worked extremely well, in fact so well that the country's potential has been a mere fraction of what it could be thanks to England's efforts (because they feared what it could become if they didnt set the ppl against each other & instill greed in the higher ranking officials).

But having said that, many yrs have passed and this is such a tragic event. What a shame that it came to this! The potential...and the outcome. I hope those SOB's are hung out to dry...
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure. http://da.twitch.tv/sonic_eu
happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
April 12 2012 15:00 GMT
#49
Imo the OP should be updated with the article that has already been posted. You can follow that link to the original M5's team manager's blog.

It's pretty clear from what M5 has said (and what a few others in this thread have said) that this whole even was a scam. That being said, I don't think all of India should be banned from holding e-sports events, as it would be a mistake to think that WTF Eventz represents the country as a whole. But of course, everyone should do their due diligence in investigating whether a new upcoming event is legit or not.
SoniC_eu
Profile Joined April 2011
Denmark1008 Posts
April 12 2012 15:10 GMT
#50
On April 13 2012 00:00 happyft wrote:
Imo the OP should be updated with the article that has already been posted. You can follow that link to the original M5's team manager's blog.

It's pretty clear from what M5 has said (and what a few others in this thread have said) that this whole even was a scam. That being said, I don't think all of India should be banned from holding e-sports events, as it would be a mistake to think that WTF Eventz represents the country as a whole. But of course, everyone should do their due diligence in investigating whether a new upcoming event is legit or not.


+1
I totally agree. It would be quite ignorant to make sweeping generalisations about a country because of one event. To, by default not attend or ban other indian esports events would be quite extreme. Potentially India has the greatest potential for Esports (1.1 billion ppl, think of all the indian supernerds with IT degrees etc, high internet penetration in the large cities,and ye I know cos I am Indian myself).
In order to succeed, your desire for success should be greater than your fear of failure. http://da.twitch.tv/sonic_eu
happyft
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States470 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 16:41:47
April 12 2012 16:41 GMT
#51
On April 13 2012 00:10 SoniC_eu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 00:00 happyft wrote:
Imo the OP should be updated with the article that has already been posted. You can follow that link to the original M5's team manager's blog.

It's pretty clear from what M5 has said (and what a few others in this thread have said) that this whole even was a scam. That being said, I don't think all of India should be banned from holding e-sports events, as it would be a mistake to think that WTF Eventz represents the country as a whole. But of course, everyone should do their due diligence in investigating whether a new upcoming event is legit or not.


+1
I totally agree. It would be quite ignorant to make sweeping generalisations about a country because of one event. To, by default not attend or ban other indian esports events would be quite extreme. Potentially India has the greatest potential for Esports (1.1 billion ppl, think of all the indian supernerds with IT degrees etc, high internet penetration in the large cities,and ye I know cos I am Indian myself).


Thanks. That being said, if there the event organizers are not held accountable for their actions and not brought to justice, that might be a good reason to stay away from India as a whole. No justice would only leave open the possibility of repeat offenses, and no one would be able to trust new tournaments without it (unless it was run by an established entity like Blizzard or MLG).

These guys must be brought to justice.
mikkmagro
Profile Joined April 2011
Malta1513 Posts
April 12 2012 16:48 GMT
#52
On April 10 2012 16:29 Licmyobelisk wrote:
Going to quote, a very long post from the CEO himself

Show nested quote +
Hi all,
There are few points which we would like to clear:

1. IGC was our first event.
2. There were many fiascos related to our event but still we pulled it off.
3. We tried our best but couldn't get any sponsorship. Later we found out that whichever company we approached closed the deal because few other prominent figures of the Gaming Industry came behind us to spoil the curry. (Fact told by people from Sony & Nvidia). However, even without sponsors we continued with the event and pulled it off, though not in an expected fashion.
4. For all those people who wonder why we were underprepared, ask all the ex-employees, who turned all our vendors against us at the very last moment. Still we arranged for all the infrastructure at the last moment. Not to worry guys, all the vendors are getting sued too!
4. After the first day problems, even the biggest event company on this earth would have called it off. But we stood firm and decided to pull it off even if that meant having a bad face in public.
5. We distributed all on-spot prizes, Tablets (almost 20) and innumerable CDs and many goodie bags. This clarifies, that we never had any kind of escaping intentions.
6. Many of you and few of our ex-employees thought not to support us, even if that meant supporting the biggest e-sporting event of India. We did our share of mistakes, but then were you guys there to support us or to help us in putting a better show?
7. As far as the fake Bank Guarantee is concerned which is doing the rounds on Internet, i would like to assure you that its not from us at all. Whosoever involved, will be punished according to Indian Law. Even M5 is on its way to be sued for their lies and misconduct.
8. As far as the prize money distribution is concerned, we would like to re-assure all the winners that their payment will be made. Disbursement of Prize money takes time as their are various Governmental procedures involved. Just a curious question, did you ever know that even KBC took around 90-120 days to disburse their prize money?
9. For all the ex-employees and people who tried their best to sabotage our image, be prepared. We have the list and we are suing you all.

For all the genuine supporters, we thank you from the bottom of our heart for your support in our valiant effort of putting up a better show.

Regards,
Kushagra


Unfortunately for WTF Events, lawyers usually require payment before opening a case, so none of the individuals mentioned should be concerned.
mousesports, Team Acer, Fnatic!
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 17:16:19
April 12 2012 17:12 GMT
#53
On April 12 2012 22:22 EmperorKira wrote:
Its India, that place has a bad reputation for these kind of things. You'd probably do better by even hosting it in Pakistan!



Yep, hold it in Pakistan and pray to God there isn't a bomb blast, terror attack, sectarian violence or drone attack.

I'd much rather be scammed than risk losing my life.

Edit: Seriously, I didn't want to stoop into such a petty debate, and what IGC did was downright shitty ( I was one of the people who distrusted them from the very start, and tried warning as many people as possible), but stop posting your shitty nationalist propaganda in this thread.
Envy fan since NTH.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
May 04 2012 03:41 GMT
#54
Hey, has anyone heard any updates on this? I have not seen much of anything about it. I am curious if anyone actually got paid like the organizer swore they would.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Deadlyhazard
Profile Joined May 2010
United States1177 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 04:41:19
May 04 2012 04:40 GMT
#55
On April 13 2012 02:12 Piledriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 22:22 EmperorKira wrote:
Its India, that place has a bad reputation for these kind of things. You'd probably do better by even hosting it in Pakistan!



Yep, hold it in Pakistan and pray to God there isn't a bomb blast, terror attack, sectarian violence or drone attack.

I'd much rather be scammed than risk losing my life.

Edit: Seriously, I didn't want to stoop into such a petty debate, and what IGC did was downright shitty ( I was one of the people who distrusted them from the very start, and tried warning as many people as possible), but stop posting your shitty nationalist propaganda in this thread.

I've been to India and know people who have lived there, scamming is much, much more common place in the country compared to almost all other western countries. To a westerner, India can and should be stereotyped in this way so that they're careful when they consider traveling there.

And yeah we all know Pakistan is stereotyped for a reason.
Hark!
hzflank
Profile Joined August 2011
United Kingdom2991 Posts
May 04 2012 05:20 GMT
#56
I did not know about this and just read through the linked article. Considering the drama over the last few days, the comment from Destiny really caught my attention.
JitnikoVi
Profile Joined May 2010
Russian Federation396 Posts
May 04 2012 05:43 GMT
#57
On April 13 2012 00:10 SoniC_eu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 13 2012 00:00 happyft wrote:
Imo the OP should be updated with the article that has already been posted. You can follow that link to the original M5's team manager's blog.

It's pretty clear from what M5 has said (and what a few others in this thread have said) that this whole even was a scam. That being said, I don't think all of India should be banned from holding e-sports events, as it would be a mistake to think that WTF Eventz represents the country as a whole. But of course, everyone should do their due diligence in investigating whether a new upcoming event is legit or not.


+1
I totally agree. It would be quite ignorant to make sweeping generalisations about a country because of one event. To, by default not attend or ban other indian esports events would be quite extreme. Potentially India has the greatest potential for Esports (1.1 billion ppl, think of all the indian supernerds with IT degrees etc, high internet penetration in the large cities,and ye I know cos I am Indian myself).


no bias there whatsoever right?

All this shows is that india isnt ready to host an event like this yet, until they find sponsorships and stability and only then start advertising should they then be able to host a respectable event, this was a disaster from what im reading
In theory yes, but theoretically, no.
Jinsho
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom3101 Posts
May 04 2012 05:56 GMT
#58
India is in no way ready to do something like that and this shows. The lies from the CEO are just the cherry on top, this is the guy that Indian esports is made of? Glad that at least everyone escaped with their lives intact.
Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9107 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-04 06:14:32
May 04 2012 06:02 GMT
#59
Goodness.... makes that scandal in (Indonesia was it? can't remember) sound like a smoothly run tournament lol.

edit: Correction, the Philippines.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
May 04 2012 06:05 GMT
#60
On May 04 2012 15:02 Jonoman92 wrote:
Goodness.... makes that scandal in (Indonesia was it? can't remember) sound like a smoothly run tournament lol.


It was the Philippines. Yeah, it is the worst situation since Gus Ledezma and that IPL situation. The good part with this one was that very few people believed it was actually going to be anything...no sponsors or anything. It seemed like a huge joke...
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
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