• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 15:37
CEST 21:37
KST 04:37
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy5uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event14Serral wins EWC 202549Tournament Spotlight: FEL Cracow 202510Power Rank - Esports World Cup 202580
Community News
Weekly Cups (Aug 4-10): MaxPax wins a triple5SC2's Safe House 2 - October 18 & 195Weekly Cups (Jul 28-Aug 3): herO doubles up6LiuLi Cup - August 2025 Tournaments5[BSL 2025] H2 - Team Wars, Weeklies & SB Ladder10
StarCraft 2
General
RSL Revival patreon money discussion thread #1: Maru - Greatest Players of All Time Lambo Talks: The Future of SC2 and more... Team Liquid Map Contest #21 - Presented by Monster Energy uThermal's 2v2 Tour: $15,000 Main Event
Tourneys
Enki Epic Series #5 - TaeJa vs Classic (SC Evo) Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL: Revival, a new crowdfunded tournament series SEL Masters #5 - Korea vs Russia (SC Evo) ByuN vs TaeJa Bo7 SC Evo Showmatch
Strategy
Custom Maps
External Content
Mutation # 486 Watch the Skies Mutation # 485 Death from Below Mutation # 484 Magnetic Pull Mutation #239 Bad Weather
Brood War
General
New season has just come in ladder StarCraft player reflex TE scores BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Simultaneous Streaming by CasterMuse Google Play ASL (Season 20) Announced
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues KCM 2025 Season 3 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [ASL20] Online Qualifiers Day 2
Strategy
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Fighting Spirit mining rates [G] Mineral Boosting Muta micro map competition
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Total Annihilation Server - TAForever Nintendo Switch Thread Beyond All Reason [MMORPG] Tree of Savior (Successor of Ragnarok)
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Russo-Ukrainian War Thread The Games Industry And ATVI Bitcoin discussion thread
Fan Clubs
INnoVation Fan Club SKT1 Classic Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [\m/] Heavy Metal Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion
Sports
2024 - 2025 Football Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Gtx660 graphics card replacement Installation of Windows 10 suck at "just a moment" Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
TeamLiquid Team Shirt On Sale The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Gaming After Dark: Poor Slee…
TrAiDoS
[Girl blog} My fema…
artosisisthebest
Sharpening the Filtration…
frozenclaw
ASL S20 English Commentary…
namkraft
from making sc maps to makin…
Husyelt
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 625 users

Indian Gaming Carnival - Pretty Sad Event - Page 2

Forum Index > General Forum
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Licmyobelisk
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Philippines3682 Posts
April 12 2012 10:02 GMT
#21
Going to quote, a very long post from the CEO himself

Hi all,
There are few points which we would like to clear:

1. IGC was our first event.
2. There were many fiascos related to our event but still we pulled it off.
3. We tried our best but couldn't get any sponsorship. Later we found out that whichever company we approached closed the deal because few other prominent figures of the Gaming Industry came behind us to spoil the curry. (Fact told by people from Sony & Nvidia). However, even without sponsors we continued with the event and pulled it off, though not in an expected fashion.
4. For all those people who wonder why we were underprepared, ask all the ex-employees, who turned all our vendors against us at the very last moment. Still we arranged for all the infrastructure at the last moment. Not to worry guys, all the vendors are getting sued too!
4. After the first day problems, even the biggest event company on this earth would have called it off. But we stood firm and decided to pull it off even if that meant having a bad face in public.
5. We distributed all on-spot prizes, Tablets (almost 20) and innumerable CDs and many goodie bags. This clarifies, that we never had any kind of escaping intentions.
6. Many of you and few of our ex-employees thought not to support us, even if that meant supporting the biggest e-sporting event of India. We did our share of mistakes, but then were you guys there to support us or to help us in putting a better show?
7. As far as the fake Bank Guarantee is concerned which is doing the rounds on Internet, i would like to assure you that its not from us at all. Whosoever involved, will be punished according to Indian Law. Even M5 is on its way to be sued for their lies and misconduct.
8. As far as the prize money distribution is concerned, we would like to re-assure all the winners that their payment will be made. Disbursement of Prize money takes time as their are various Governmental procedures involved. Just a curious question, did you ever know that even KBC took around 90-120 days to disburse their prize money?
9. For all the ex-employees and people who tried their best to sabotage our image, be prepared. We have the list and we are suing you all.

For all the genuine supporters, we thank you from the bottom of our heart for your support in our valiant effort of putting up a better show.

Regards,
Kushagra
I don't think I've ever wished my opponent good luck prior to a game. When I play, I play to win. I hope every opponent I ever have is cursed with fucking terrible luck. I hope they're stuck playing underneath a stepladder with a black cat in attendance a
JustPassingBy
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
10776 Posts
April 12 2012 10:05 GMT
#22
Wait, what is the basis on which they are sueing M5 and where did you get that quote?
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 10:22:50
April 12 2012 10:13 GMT
#23
Yeah...well...whatever happened there I hope doesn't happen again. You can't ask for 8mil title sponsorship and give players and teams what they feel was unjustified. It just tears into the credibility not to mention it sure is going to make it hard to get sponsors for any future events you wish to hold. Whether or not it was a scam from the beginning though, it was obviously poorly organized by amateurs.

It just sounds weird all together. We will wait and see about the payout in the future. At least they didn't leave people holding thousands of dollars in hotel bills this time. LoL.

It is sad when things don't work out right and I hope to see a great event in India some day in the future. This though, was not it.

+ Show Spoiler +
Woot - 2000th post also. Cool - got that mutalisk.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
April 12 2012 10:21 GMT
#24
Just wondering, but what happened to Gus after the event? That scumbag organizer what he deserved.
Opinions are like phasers -- everybody ought to have one
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8539 Posts
April 12 2012 10:25 GMT
#25
Wow... looks like some black sheep did the indian scene just a huge disservice. One can only hope the people involved will be held responsible.
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
April 12 2012 10:28 GMT
#26
On April 12 2012 19:21 lisward wrote:
Just wondering, but what happened to Gus after the event? That scumbag organizer what he deserved.


Not sure, but he has not posted since all that shit has gone down, at least not on his main account. I hope he has just decided to disappear.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Xiron
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany1233 Posts
April 12 2012 10:39 GMT
#27
Even M5 is on its way to be sued for their lies and misconduct.


Haha, good luck trying. In the end, he didn't pull back his offer to pay for flight and stay, and M5 did not recieve the money. So how are they lying? Ha.
"The way of life can be free and beautiful. But we have lost the way. " - Charlie Chaplin
Tidus Mino
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United Kingdom1108 Posts
April 12 2012 10:50 GMT
#28
By the way, the Pro CS team that went were followed by 4 thugs and robbed when they slept, with all their money + the camera rolls that included footage of the venue and of the manager being stolen,

http://www.hltv.org/news/8440-m5-scammed-robbed-in-india
Head of Production at FACEITTV, ex-WW & Mouz SC2 manager
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 10:51:16
April 12 2012 10:51 GMT
#29
This is an article with M5 PoV I think
http://www.hltv.org/news/8440-m5-scammed-robbed-in-india

I feel sad for M5 and the rest of the participants :<.

Edit: wow my face just got sniped by the guy above me

lol.
WriterXiao8~~
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
April 12 2012 10:57 GMT
#30
On April 12 2012 19:50 Tidus Mino wrote:
By the way, the Pro CS team that went were followed by 4 thugs and robbed when they slept, with all their money + the camera rolls that included footage of the venue and of the manager being stolen,

http://www.hltv.org/news/8440-m5-scammed-robbed-in-india


Yeah, this is just sad. Who do we believe, the pro team with sponsors and a reputation or...well...WTF Eventz who no one has ever heard of. I am sorry to the teams and players involved in the mess.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
archonOOid
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
1983 Posts
April 12 2012 11:00 GMT
#31
They should go to prison! I mean they made a lot of promises and most of them were not kept. False advertisement is a crime and breach of contract another criminal offense. If they don't go to prison a fine would be in order or something at least. The gamers of India and western pro teams shouldn't have to put of with quackery like this.
I'm Quotable (IQ)
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
April 12 2012 11:04 GMT
#32
On April 12 2012 20:00 archonOOid wrote:
They should go to prison! I mean they made a lot of promises and most of them were not kept. False advertisement is a crime and breach of contract another criminal offense. If they don't go to prison a fine would be in order or something at least. The gamers of India and western pro teams shouldn't have to put of with quackery like this.

i'd imagine it would be pretty hard to pursue legal matters in India, the same as the problem with Philipiness and the ''Gus'' incident.
WriterXiao8~~
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 11:08:37
April 12 2012 11:05 GMT
#33
On April 12 2012 20:04 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 12 2012 20:00 archonOOid wrote:
They should go to prison! I mean they made a lot of promises and most of them were not kept. False advertisement is a crime and breach of contract another criminal offense. If they don't go to prison a fine would be in order or something at least. The gamers of India and western pro teams shouldn't have to put of with quackery like this.

i'd imagine it would be pretty hard to pursue legal matters in India, the same as the problem with Philipiness and the ''Gus'' incident.


Yeah, this is why if I were a team I would not attend an event like this without 100% knowledge of other prominent sponsors and whatnot. At least Gus had that IPL deal going on for people to buy in to.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
DarkSpectre
Profile Joined December 2011
121 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 11:10:36
April 12 2012 11:07 GMT
#34
On April 12 2012 20:00 archonOOid wrote:
They should go to prison! I mean they made a lot of promises and most of them were not kept. False advertisement is a crime and breach of contract another criminal offense. If they don't go to prison a fine would be in order or something at least. The gamers of India and western pro teams shouldn't have to put of with quackery like this.


It's highly unlikely that they will get real justice in India. It's a well-known fact that if you are rich (or have connections with some powerful people) then you will very likely to get justice in India.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50123 Posts
April 12 2012 11:12 GMT
#35
WTF? Lies and slander from the CEO and then claims that he will sue M5?

The nerve of this guy.
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
TL+ Member
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 11:15:20
April 12 2012 11:15 GMT
#36
On April 12 2012 20:12 BLinD-RawR wrote:
WTF? Lies and slander from the CEO and then claims that he will sue M5?

The nerve of this guy.


Whoa there RawR - he sounds like a totally upstanding guy who put together an amazing event. M5 are just lying and slanderous...

...yeah right. I can't wait for the next amazing event put together by Gus Ledesma feat. WTF Eventz. Epic it shall be.
We think too much and feel too little. More than machinery, we need humanity. More than cleverness, we need kindness and gentleness. Without these qualities, life will be violent and all will be lost. -Charlie Chaplin
Marti
Profile Joined August 2011
552 Posts
April 12 2012 11:17 GMT
#37
Seen that on HLTV.org
Funny thing is, fnatic warned them beforehand.
#adun giveafuck - - - "Did this guy just randomly finger me?" - Sayle
Roflhaxx
Profile Joined April 2010
Korea (South)1244 Posts
April 12 2012 11:24 GMT
#38
"4. For all those people who wonder why we were underprepared, ask all the ex-employees, who turned all our vendors against us at the very last moment. Still we arranged for all the infrastructure at the last moment. Not to worry guys, all the vendors are getting sued too!"
Just this part proves that the progamers are telling the truth, why on earth would ex-employees go out of their way to do something like this? They would either hold a REALLY big grudge or be correct.
A game where the first thing you do is scout with a “worker”. Does that make any sense? Who scouts with a “worker”? That’s like sending out the janitor to perform recon, what general would do that? Retarded game.
Reivax
Profile Joined June 2011
Sweden214 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 11:28:39
April 12 2012 11:27 GMT
#39
IGC seems to be completely and absolutely disgraceful.

I read ddd1ms blog entry, and noticed that he had the receipt for the hotel photocopied and posted. Since they were staying at a Hilton brand, I'd advise him to contact Hilton customer service as soon as possible to get compensation and resolve the hotel robbing crap at least.

I used to work at HH (Hilton HHonors) customer service in Sweden a few years back, and if something like this would have hit the web, all hell would break loose. I couldn't navigate to a proper email adress as I don't know russian, but perhaps someone can give him this tip at least, if he hasn't contaced them already?

Reputation is _everything_ for hotel brands, and this shit will not stand if you make a bit of noise.
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-12 11:30:23
April 12 2012 11:28 GMT
#40
Was this a tournament where people had to pay before entering the tournament? That's usually a scam, right?
Did they all conspire to do this? ( the employees ) or only a select few?
Year 2500 Greater Israel ( Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen )
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 4h 24m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 403
ProTech104
BRAT_OK 75
MindelVK 33
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 18074
Larva 550
Mong 150
ggaemo 66
Jaeyun 61
Hyun 55
sSak 37
TY 32
Backho 31
soO 23
[ Show more ]
HiyA 21
Rock 10
yabsab 9
IntoTheRainbow 6
Stormgate
UpATreeSC136
JuggernautJason95
Dota 2
qojqva4065
Dendi1047
Pyrionflax144
LuMiX1
Counter-Strike
Stewie2K126
Foxcn122
Heroes of the Storm
Grubby2389
Liquid`Hasu392
Other Games
RotterdaM370
Fuzer 241
PiGStarcraft219
ToD173
ViBE85
Trikslyr56
ZombieGrub53
StateSC216
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• StrangeGG 29
• davetesta23
• Hinosc 13
• Reevou 3
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• sooper7s
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 34
• 80smullet 10
• Pr0nogo 3
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• TFBlade706
Other Games
• imaqtpie2565
• Shiphtur283
Upcoming Events
OSC
4h 24m
The PondCast
14h 24m
WardiTV Summer Champion…
15h 24m
Replay Cast
1d 4h
LiuLi Cup
1d 15h
Online Event
2 days
SC Evo League
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
CSO Contender
2 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Summer Champion…
3 days
SC Evo League
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
Afreeca Starleague
4 days
Sharp vs Ample
Larva vs Stork
Wardi Open
4 days
RotterdaM Event
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
5 days
JyJ vs TY
Bisu vs Speed
WardiTV Summer Champion…
5 days
Afreeca Starleague
6 days
Mini vs TBD
Soma vs sSak
WardiTV Summer Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

StarCon 2025 Philadelphia
FEL Cracow 2025
CC Div. A S7

Ongoing

Copa Latinoamericana 4
Jiahua Invitational
BSL 20 Team Wars
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 3
BSL 21 Qualifiers
WardiTV Summer 2025
uThermal 2v2 Main Event
HCC Europe
BLAST Bounty Fall Qual
IEM Cologne 2025
FISSURE Playground #1
BLAST.tv Austin Major 2025

Upcoming

CSL Season 18: Qualifier 1
ASL Season 20
CSLAN 3
CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
LASL Season 20
BSL Season 21
BSL 21 Team A
RSL Revival: Season 2
Maestros of the Game
SEL Season 2 Championship
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
MESA Nomadic Masters Fall
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
Roobet Cup 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025
BLAST Bounty Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.