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So what are riots looking like right now? Any major ones going on?
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On July 15 2013 10:53 dAPhREAk wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 10:51 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:47 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:43 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:26 plogamer wrote:On July 15 2013 10:01 Zenocide wrote:On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Because only white people are racist...../sarcasm Can't remember ever hearing about a white person being asked to sit in the back of a bus. Or being pulled over for being white. Racism is not the same when it isn't institutionalized and perpetrated throughout generations.On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a
white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Zimmerman is not white afaik. And again, a white 17 year old in similar circumstances would not be suspicious to Zimmerman - which is the greater injustice. Regardless of it all, if Zimmerman was a cop; the city police department would be busy preparing for a huge lawsuit. So what is the difference then? Are you saying that because of ancestors several generations back that being racist to someone who is black is worse than being racist to someone who is white? Racism towards whites isnt a thing Are you sure? Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered. Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.² http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/From my home city. i think what they are saying is that we should only care about racism if its an institutionalized thing, and that general racism is okay unless against non-whites and then its not okay (see institutionalized racism).
I strongly believe that anyone who thinks racism only applies to some races is in fact racist.
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Based on my interactions, I am having a hard time finding african americans who can objectively discuss this case. I think a lot of them are consumed by the racial issues - irrationally so. They can't make the affirmative case about the racial factor
I think the best answer I got was this weird counterfactual about what if Zimmerman was following a white girl.
God I am so angry at the freepass a lot of people are getting because they can hide behind race.
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On July 15 2013 10:55 kmillz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 10:53 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 15 2013 10:51 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:47 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:43 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:26 plogamer wrote:On July 15 2013 10:01 Zenocide wrote:On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Because only white people are racist...../sarcasm Can't remember ever hearing about a white person being asked to sit in the back of a bus. Or being pulled over for being white. Racism is not the same when it isn't institutionalized and perpetrated throughout generations.On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a
white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Zimmerman is not white afaik. And again, a white 17 year old in similar circumstances would not be suspicious to Zimmerman - which is the greater injustice. Regardless of it all, if Zimmerman was a cop; the city police department would be busy preparing for a huge lawsuit. So what is the difference then? Are you saying that because of ancestors several generations back that being racist to someone who is black is worse than being racist to someone who is white? Racism towards whites isnt a thing Are you sure? Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered. Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.² http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/From my home city. i think what they are saying is that we should only care about racism if its an institutionalized thing, and that general racism is okay unless against non-whites and then its not okay (see institutionalized racism). I strongly believe that anyone who thinks racism only applies to some races is in fact racist.
So how do I act if I do not want to be called a racist. Hard for me to figure out tbh.
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On July 15 2013 10:55 kmillz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 10:53 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 15 2013 10:51 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:47 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:43 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:26 plogamer wrote:On July 15 2013 10:01 Zenocide wrote:On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Because only white people are racist...../sarcasm Can't remember ever hearing about a white person being asked to sit in the back of a bus. Or being pulled over for being white. Racism is not the same when it isn't institutionalized and perpetrated throughout generations.On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a
white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Zimmerman is not white afaik. And again, a white 17 year old in similar circumstances would not be suspicious to Zimmerman - which is the greater injustice. Regardless of it all, if Zimmerman was a cop; the city police department would be busy preparing for a huge lawsuit. So what is the difference then? Are you saying that because of ancestors several generations back that being racist to someone who is black is worse than being racist to someone who is white? Racism towards whites isnt a thing Are you sure? Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered. Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.² http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/From my home city. i think what they are saying is that we should only care about racism if its an institutionalized thing, and that general racism is okay unless against non-whites and then its not okay (see institutionalized racism). I strongly believe that anyone who thinks racism only applies to some races is in fact racist.
Being anti-racist means youre anti-white
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On July 15 2013 10:55 Sabu113 wrote:
Based on my interactions, I am having a hard time finding african americans who can objectively discuss this case. I think a lot of them are consumed by the racial issues - irrationally so. They can't make the affirmative case about the racial factor
I think the best answer I got was this weird counterfactual about what if Zimmerman was following a white girl.
God I am so angry at the freepass a lot of people are getting because they can hide behind race.
A lot of individuals are like that... ignorant. What really drives me nuts is seeing story after story by the media trying to bait people.
"Zimmerman to get his gun back!"
"Zimmerman smirks after verdict!"
"Martin's family in 'disbelief'!"
"Communities everywhere in shock, disgusted!"
It's just never ending. Mass media is quickly rising the ranks as most hated occupation in America, rightfully so.
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On July 15 2013 10:57 Kleinmuuhg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 10:55 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:53 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 15 2013 10:51 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:47 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:43 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:26 plogamer wrote:On July 15 2013 10:01 Zenocide wrote:On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Because only white people are racist...../sarcasm Can't remember ever hearing about a white person being asked to sit in the back of a bus. Or being pulled over for being white. Racism is not the same when it isn't institutionalized and perpetrated throughout generations.On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a
white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Zimmerman is not white afaik. And again, a white 17 year old in similar circumstances would not be suspicious to Zimmerman - which is the greater injustice. Regardless of it all, if Zimmerman was a cop; the city police department would be busy preparing for a huge lawsuit. So what is the difference then? Are you saying that because of ancestors several generations back that being racist to someone who is black is worse than being racist to someone who is white? Racism towards whites isnt a thing Are you sure? Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered. Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.² http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/From my home city. i think what they are saying is that we should only care about racism if its an institutionalized thing, and that general racism is okay unless against non-whites and then its not okay (see institutionalized racism). I strongly believe that anyone who thinks racism only applies to some races is in fact racist. So how do I act if I do not want to be called a racist. Hard for me to figure out tbh.
like a decent fair human being
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On July 15 2013 10:59 asdfou420 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 10:55 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:53 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 15 2013 10:51 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:47 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:43 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:26 plogamer wrote:On July 15 2013 10:01 Zenocide wrote:On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Because only white people are racist...../sarcasm Can't remember ever hearing about a white person being asked to sit in the back of a bus. Or being pulled over for being white. Racism is not the same when it isn't institutionalized and perpetrated throughout generations.On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a
white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Zimmerman is not white afaik. And again, a white 17 year old in similar circumstances would not be suspicious to Zimmerman - which is the greater injustice. Regardless of it all, if Zimmerman was a cop; the city police department would be busy preparing for a huge lawsuit. So what is the difference then? Are you saying that because of ancestors several generations back that being racist to someone who is black is worse than being racist to someone who is white? Racism towards whites isnt a thing Are you sure? Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered. Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.² http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/From my home city. i think what they are saying is that we should only care about racism if its an institutionalized thing, and that general racism is okay unless against non-whites and then its not okay (see institutionalized racism). I strongly believe that anyone who thinks racism only applies to some races is in fact racist. Being anti-racist means youre anti-white
So..
racist=white
What an ironically racist thing to say.
On July 15 2013 10:57 Kleinmuuhg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 10:55 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:53 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 15 2013 10:51 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:47 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:43 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:26 plogamer wrote:On July 15 2013 10:01 Zenocide wrote:On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Because only white people are racist...../sarcasm Can't remember ever hearing about a white person being asked to sit in the back of a bus. Or being pulled over for being white. Racism is not the same when it isn't institutionalized and perpetrated throughout generations.On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a
white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Zimmerman is not white afaik. And again, a white 17 year old in similar circumstances would not be suspicious to Zimmerman - which is the greater injustice. Regardless of it all, if Zimmerman was a cop; the city police department would be busy preparing for a huge lawsuit. So what is the difference then? Are you saying that because of ancestors several generations back that being racist to someone who is black is worse than being racist to someone who is white? Racism towards whites isnt a thing Are you sure? Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered. Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.² http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/From my home city. i think what they are saying is that we should only care about racism if its an institutionalized thing, and that general racism is okay unless against non-whites and then its not okay (see institutionalized racism). I strongly believe that anyone who thinks racism only applies to some races is in fact racist. So how do I act if I do not want to be called a racist. Hard for me to figure out tbh.
Treat people the same, regardless of their race?
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On July 15 2013 11:01 FrankWalls wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 10:57 Kleinmuuhg wrote:On July 15 2013 10:55 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:53 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 15 2013 10:51 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:47 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:43 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:26 plogamer wrote:On July 15 2013 10:01 Zenocide wrote:On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Because only white people are racist...../sarcasm Can't remember ever hearing about a white person being asked to sit in the back of a bus. Or being pulled over for being white. Racism is not the same when it isn't institutionalized and perpetrated throughout generations.On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a
white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Zimmerman is not white afaik. And again, a white 17 year old in similar circumstances would not be suspicious to Zimmerman - which is the greater injustice. Regardless of it all, if Zimmerman was a cop; the city police department would be busy preparing for a huge lawsuit. So what is the difference then? Are you saying that because of ancestors several generations back that being racist to someone who is black is worse than being racist to someone who is white? Racism towards whites isnt a thing Are you sure? Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered. Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.² http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/From my home city. i think what they are saying is that we should only care about racism if its an institutionalized thing, and that general racism is okay unless against non-whites and then its not okay (see institutionalized racism). I strongly believe that anyone who thinks racism only applies to some races is in fact racist. So how do I act if I do not want to be called a racist. Hard for me to figure out tbh. like a decent fair human being
All that does is piss off the black community because you got the verdict wrong.
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On July 15 2013 10:55 Sabu113 wrote:
Based on my interactions, I am having a hard time finding african americans who can objectively discuss this case. I think a lot of them are consumed by the racial issues - irrationally so. They can't make the affirmative case about the racial factor
I think the best answer I got was this weird counterfactual about what if Zimmerman was following a white girl.
God I am so angry at the freepass a lot of people are getting because they can hide behind race.
Same reason i cant stand "comedians" like Chappelle and Carlos Mencia.
You're not funny because you're a minority and ALLOWED to make racist jokes for people to laugh about.
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On July 15 2013 11:07 Mania[K]al wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 10:55 Sabu113 wrote:
Based on my interactions, I am having a hard time finding african americans who can objectively discuss this case. I think a lot of them are consumed by the racial issues - irrationally so. They can't make the affirmative case about the racial factor
I think the best answer I got was this weird counterfactual about what if Zimmerman was following a white girl.
God I am so angry at the freepass a lot of people are getting because they can hide behind race. Same reason i cant stand "comedians" like Chappelle and Carlos Mencia. You're not funny because you're a minority and ALLOWED to make racist jokes for people to laugh about.
I like Chappelle but not Mencia...but that's only because Mencia just isn't that funny and steals jokes, whereas Chappelle is hilarious. He isn't hilarious because he makes racist jokes and is a minority, he's hilarious because he says funny shit.
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On July 15 2013 10:57 Kleinmuuhg wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 10:55 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:53 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 15 2013 10:51 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:47 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:43 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:26 plogamer wrote:On July 15 2013 10:01 Zenocide wrote:On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Because only white people are racist...../sarcasm Can't remember ever hearing about a white person being asked to sit in the back of a bus. Or being pulled over for being white. Racism is not the same when it isn't institutionalized and perpetrated throughout generations.On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a
white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Zimmerman is not white afaik. And again, a white 17 year old in similar circumstances would not be suspicious to Zimmerman - which is the greater injustice. Regardless of it all, if Zimmerman was a cop; the city police department would be busy preparing for a huge lawsuit. So what is the difference then? Are you saying that because of ancestors several generations back that being racist to someone who is black is worse than being racist to someone who is white? Racism towards whites isnt a thing Are you sure? Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered. Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.² http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/From my home city. i think what they are saying is that we should only care about racism if its an institutionalized thing, and that general racism is okay unless against non-whites and then its not okay (see institutionalized racism). I strongly believe that anyone who thinks racism only applies to some races is in fact racist. So how do I act if I do not want to be called a racist. Hard for me to figure out tbh.
Apologize for being your race.
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On July 15 2013 11:03 kmillz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 10:59 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:55 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:53 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 15 2013 10:51 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:47 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:43 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:26 plogamer wrote:On July 15 2013 10:01 Zenocide wrote:On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Because only white people are racist...../sarcasm Can't remember ever hearing about a white person being asked to sit in the back of a bus. Or being pulled over for being white. Racism is not the same when it isn't institutionalized and perpetrated throughout generations.On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a
white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Zimmerman is not white afaik. And again, a white 17 year old in similar circumstances would not be suspicious to Zimmerman - which is the greater injustice. Regardless of it all, if Zimmerman was a cop; the city police department would be busy preparing for a huge lawsuit. So what is the difference then? Are you saying that because of ancestors several generations back that being racist to someone who is black is worse than being racist to someone who is white? Racism towards whites isnt a thing Are you sure? Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered. Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.² http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/From my home city. i think what they are saying is that we should only care about racism if its an institutionalized thing, and that general racism is okay unless against non-whites and then its not okay (see institutionalized racism). I strongly believe that anyone who thinks racism only applies to some races is in fact racist. Being anti-racist means youre anti-white So.. racist=white What an ironically racist thing to say. Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 10:57 Kleinmuuhg wrote:On July 15 2013 10:55 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:53 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 15 2013 10:51 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:47 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:43 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:26 plogamer wrote:On July 15 2013 10:01 Zenocide wrote:On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Because only white people are racist...../sarcasm Can't remember ever hearing about a white person being asked to sit in the back of a bus. Or being pulled over for being white. Racism is not the same when it isn't institutionalized and perpetrated throughout generations.On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a
white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Zimmerman is not white afaik. And again, a white 17 year old in similar circumstances would not be suspicious to Zimmerman - which is the greater injustice. Regardless of it all, if Zimmerman was a cop; the city police department would be busy preparing for a huge lawsuit. So what is the difference then? Are you saying that because of ancestors several generations back that being racist to someone who is black is worse than being racist to someone who is white? Racism towards whites isnt a thing Are you sure? Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered. Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.² http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/From my home city. i think what they are saying is that we should only care about racism if its an institutionalized thing, and that general racism is okay unless against non-whites and then its not okay (see institutionalized racism). I strongly believe that anyone who thinks racism only applies to some races is in fact racist. So how do I act if I do not want to be called a racist. Hard for me to figure out tbh. Treat people the same, regardless of their race?
Oh, no, that's the worst kind of racism, because it doesn't take into account all the unique historical oppression of [insert racial group here] which makes it necessary to compensate them for past wrongs.
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On July 15 2013 11:05 Mania[K]al wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 11:01 FrankWalls wrote:On July 15 2013 10:57 Kleinmuuhg wrote:On July 15 2013 10:55 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:53 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 15 2013 10:51 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:47 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:43 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:26 plogamer wrote:On July 15 2013 10:01 Zenocide wrote:
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Because only white people are racist...../sarcasm Can't remember ever hearing about a white person being asked to sit in the back of a bus. Or being pulled over for being white. Racism is not the same when it isn't institutionalized and perpetrated throughout generations.On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a
white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Zimmerman is not white afaik. And again, a white 17 year old in similar circumstances would not be suspicious to Zimmerman - which is the greater injustice. Regardless of it all, if Zimmerman was a cop; the city police department would be busy preparing for a huge lawsuit. So what is the difference then? Are you saying that because of ancestors several generations back that being racist to someone who is black is worse than being racist to someone who is white? Racism towards whites isnt a thing Are you sure? Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered. Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.² http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/From my home city. i think what they are saying is that we should only care about racism if its an institutionalized thing, and that general racism is okay unless against non-whites and then its not okay (see institutionalized racism). I strongly believe that anyone who thinks racism only applies to some races is in fact racist. So how do I act if I do not want to be called a racist. Hard for me to figure out tbh. like a decent fair human being All that does is piss off the black community because you got the verdict wrong.
the community's wrongness and overreaction doesnt make you racist
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"lets go to harlem."
say hi LosingID8
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On July 15 2013 10:51 kmillz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 10:47 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:43 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:26 plogamer wrote:On July 15 2013 10:01 Zenocide wrote:On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Because only white people are racist...../sarcasm Can't remember ever hearing about a white person being asked to sit in the back of a bus. Or being pulled over for being white. Racism is not the same when it isn't institutionalized and perpetrated throughout generations.On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a
white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Zimmerman is not white afaik. And again, a white 17 year old in similar circumstances would not be suspicious to Zimmerman - which is the greater injustice. Regardless of it all, if Zimmerman was a cop; the city police department would be busy preparing for a huge lawsuit. So what is the difference then? Are you saying that because of ancestors several generations back that being racist to someone who is black is worse than being racist to someone who is white? Racism towards whites isnt a thing Are you sure? Show nested quote + Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered. Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.² http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/From my home city.
I'm white, and I would not care to see that on the news. It is an isolated case, and the group of people who caused the crime should be held responsible. Their motive could be anything as motive is just an excuse to commit a crime. Race is an excuse just like any other motive. There is no reason to try and get people emotionally invested in crime by preying on their predisposition to racial drama.
Also the Zimmerman Jury returned with a verdict in 24 hours. The decision was not hard. That in itself is telling.
Looking objectively, there was no case against Zimmerman to begin with. The state was not even going to bring Zimmerman to trial, until the media blew the case up, at which point they had to. All the arguments against Zimmerman are based in emotion, which is a weak foundation for a case.
On July 15 2013 11:13 FrankWalls wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 11:05 Mania[K]al wrote:On July 15 2013 11:01 FrankWalls wrote:On July 15 2013 10:57 Kleinmuuhg wrote:On July 15 2013 10:55 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:53 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 15 2013 10:51 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:47 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:43 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:26 plogamer wrote:
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Can't remember ever hearing about a white person being asked to sit in the back of a bus. Or being pulled over for being white. Racism is not the same when it isn't institutionalized and perpetrated throughout generations.
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Zimmerman is not white afaik. And again, a white 17 year old in similar circumstances would not be suspicious to Zimmerman - which is the greater injustice.
Regardless of it all, if Zimmerman was a cop; the city police department would be busy preparing for a huge lawsuit. So what is the difference then? Are you saying that because of ancestors several generations back that being racist to someone who is black is worse than being racist to someone who is white? Racism towards whites isnt a thing Are you sure? Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered. Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.² http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/From my home city. i think what they are saying is that we should only care about racism if its an institutionalized thing, and that general racism is okay unless against non-whites and then its not okay (see institutionalized racism). I strongly believe that anyone who thinks racism only applies to some races is in fact racist. So how do I act if I do not want to be called a racist. Hard for me to figure out tbh. like a decent fair human being All that does is piss off the black community because you got the verdict wrong. the community's wrongness and overreaction doesnt make you racist
Exactly, most insults are in fact directed from an inner insecurity. So if you know you treat people equally with no prejudice, then you will realize that the person who is calling you racist, is racist themselves. They are pinging you to receive your reaction.
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On July 15 2013 11:29 Jisall wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 10:51 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:47 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:43 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:26 plogamer wrote:On July 15 2013 10:01 Zenocide wrote:On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Because only white people are racist...../sarcasm Can't remember ever hearing about a white person being asked to sit in the back of a bus. Or being pulled over for being white. Racism is not the same when it isn't institutionalized and perpetrated throughout generations.On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a
white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Zimmerman is not white afaik. And again, a white 17 year old in similar circumstances would not be suspicious to Zimmerman - which is the greater injustice. Regardless of it all, if Zimmerman was a cop; the city police department would be busy preparing for a huge lawsuit. So what is the difference then? Are you saying that because of ancestors several generations back that being racist to someone who is black is worse than being racist to someone who is white? Racism towards whites isnt a thing Are you sure? Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered. Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.² http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/From my home city. I'm white, and I would not care to see that on the news. It is an isolated case, and the group of people who caused the crime should be held responsible. Their motive could be anything as motive is just an excuse to commit a crime. Race is an excuse just like any other motive. There is no reason to try and get people emotionally invested in crime by preying on their predisposition to racial drama. Also the Zimmerman Jury returned with a verdict in 24 hours. The decision was not hard. That in itself is telling. Looking objectively, there was no case against Zimmerman to begin with. The state was not even going to bring Zimmerman to trial, until the media blew the case up, at which point they had to. All the arguments against Zimmerman are based in emotion, which is a weak foundation for a case.
I don't care to see it in the news either, just pointing out the double standard is all.
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so apparently the police pepper sprayed a bunch of them. and now the streamer is saying its because the marchers were trying to enter a rich part of town. lol.
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On July 15 2013 11:24 dAPhREAk wrote:
"lets go to harlem."
say hi LosingID8
yeah... great...
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On July 15 2013 11:31 kmillz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 15 2013 11:29 Jisall wrote:On July 15 2013 10:51 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:47 asdfou420 wrote:On July 15 2013 10:43 kmillz wrote:On July 15 2013 10:26 plogamer wrote:On July 15 2013 10:01 Zenocide wrote:On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Because only white people are racist...../sarcasm Can't remember ever hearing about a white person being asked to sit in the back of a bus. Or being pulled over for being white. Racism is not the same when it isn't institutionalized and perpetrated throughout generations.On July 15 2013 09:57 AxUU wrote:
What I don't get is, why is a white person racist for killing a black person. But a black person is NOT a racist for killing a
white person? This whole thing is ridiculous, and Zimmerman is innocent. Zimmerman is not white afaik. And again, a white 17 year old in similar circumstances would not be suspicious to Zimmerman - which is the greater injustice. Regardless of it all, if Zimmerman was a cop; the city police department would be busy preparing for a huge lawsuit. So what is the difference then? Are you saying that because of ancestors several generations back that being racist to someone who is black is worse than being racist to someone who is white? Racism towards whites isnt a thing Are you sure? Cleveland, Ohio. A white man on a moped accidentally bumped into a truck being driven by a black man. He fell over but was not injured. A crowd of 40 white people pulled the black driver from the truck and brutally beat him. One of them climbed in the truck and ran over the driver, killing him. The crowd cheered. Jacksonville, Florida. A group of four to six white men agreed that they would brutalize the next black person they saw walking down the street. That person turned out to be a mentally disabled 50-year-old, whom they beat and stomped into unconsciousness. He later died of his injuries.Are you surprised that you’ve never heard of these sickening murders based on racial hatred? You didn’t see saturation coverage on the news. You didn’t hear politicians decrying racism. You didn’t see a livid Jesse Jackson on CNN. Why? Because these acts of brutality didn’t happen exactly as I described above. Oh, they happened, all right. The only thing is, the races of the attackers and victims were reversed. That is, a white man was beaten and then crushed by a mob of 40 black people who were furious that a black man bumped into his truck.¹ In Jacksonville, it was a gang of black men who stomped a mentally-disabled man to death solely because he was white.² http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/From my home city. I'm white, and I would not care to see that on the news. It is an isolated case, and the group of people who caused the crime should be held responsible. Their motive could be anything as motive is just an excuse to commit a crime. Race is an excuse just like any other motive. There is no reason to try and get people emotionally invested in crime by preying on their predisposition to racial drama. Also the Zimmerman Jury returned with a verdict in 24 hours. The decision was not hard. That in itself is telling. Looking objectively, there was no case against Zimmerman to begin with. The state was not even going to bring Zimmerman to trial, until the media blew the case up, at which point they had to. All the arguments against Zimmerman are based in emotion, which is a weak foundation for a case. I don't care to see it in the news either, just pointing out the double standard is all.
I completely understand where you were coming from there, I felt like adding to it.
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