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This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.

If you make an uninformed post, or one that isn't relevant to the discussion, you will be moderated. If in doubt, don't post.
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 11 2013 18:16 GMT
#7081
On July 12 2013 03:13 xDaunt wrote:
Bernie, telling the jurors to use common sense isn't going to help your case.

USE YOUR GODDAMN COMMON SENSE AND IGNORE ALL THE EVIDENCE PEOPLE!!!
crms
Profile Joined February 2010
United States11933 Posts
July 11 2013 18:16 GMT
#7082
'most importantly use your god given common sense'

more important than the facts and evidence, trust the invisible man in the sky who gave you some sort of super power to reason in your own head outside of what's presented to you.


sickest prosecution.
http://i.imgur.com/fAUOr2c.png | Fighting games are great
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 11 2013 18:17 GMT
#7083
On July 12 2013 03:15 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 03:12 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:10 xDaunt wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:08 LegalLord wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:06 xDaunt wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:03 LegalLord wrote:
Blatant attempt to abuse the human element of a jury if I've ever seen one.

In fairness, attorneys do this all of the time.

That doesn't make it any more correct.
I'd argue that this is worse because the state, a party that is supposed to be concerned with justice rather than winning a case, is doing this.

Well, I'm not prepared to say that this is a case where the prosecution has the ethical duty to dismiss the charges. Until that point, the prosecution has a job to do.


Of course they do, they rely on lying to the jury to win their case!! how much more unecthical can you be? if he can't tell the jury the truth to get a conviction, what makes him think the guy is guilty? Pontius Pilate had a job to do too.

He has the manslaughter charge in there, so the Jury has that to consider. And the Defense will object if he flat out lies.


He already has flat out lied. No objection. It's a strategic decision whether or not to object to such shit.
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 11 2013 18:17 GMT
#7084
On July 12 2013 03:15 AllHailTheDead wrote:



IDK what I'll do if hes found guilty, considering how bad the states arguments have been......


I'll be a lot more nervous if I've had to kill a guy to defend myself. I'm pasty fuckin white, if i have to shoot a big burly black teenager in self defense, I'm going to be shitting myself thinking I'm going to end up in prison with all this guy's buddies.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 11 2013 18:17 GMT
#7085
On July 12 2013 03:16 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 03:15 AllHailTheDead wrote:
IDK what I'll do if hes found guilty, considering how bad the states arguments have been......

Seems like there's a pretty good case for the defense to appeal, if it comes to that.
There's been a fair share of funny business in this case.

I don't know what you appeal in a jury case. Overturning their rulings is very, very difficult.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 11 2013 18:18 GMT
#7086
On July 12 2013 03:17 Kaitlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 03:15 Plansix wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:12 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:10 xDaunt wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:08 LegalLord wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:06 xDaunt wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:03 LegalLord wrote:
Blatant attempt to abuse the human element of a jury if I've ever seen one.

In fairness, attorneys do this all of the time.

That doesn't make it any more correct.
I'd argue that this is worse because the state, a party that is supposed to be concerned with justice rather than winning a case, is doing this.

Well, I'm not prepared to say that this is a case where the prosecution has the ethical duty to dismiss the charges. Until that point, the prosecution has a job to do.


Of course they do, they rely on lying to the jury to win their case!! how much more unecthical can you be? if he can't tell the jury the truth to get a conviction, what makes him think the guy is guilty? Pontius Pilate had a job to do too.

He has the manslaughter charge in there, so the Jury has that to consider. And the Defense will object if he flat out lies.


He already has flat out lied. No objection. It's a strategic decision whether or not to object to such shit.

What did he say? I lack sound on my work PC and Im not streaming this stuff through my phone.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
sc2superfan101
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
3583 Posts
July 11 2013 18:19 GMT
#7087
On July 12 2013 03:17 Kaitlin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 03:15 Plansix wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:12 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:10 xDaunt wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:08 LegalLord wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:06 xDaunt wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:03 LegalLord wrote:
Blatant attempt to abuse the human element of a jury if I've ever seen one.

In fairness, attorneys do this all of the time.

That doesn't make it any more correct.
I'd argue that this is worse because the state, a party that is supposed to be concerned with justice rather than winning a case, is doing this.

Well, I'm not prepared to say that this is a case where the prosecution has the ethical duty to dismiss the charges. Until that point, the prosecution has a job to do.


Of course they do, they rely on lying to the jury to win their case!! how much more unecthical can you be? if he can't tell the jury the truth to get a conviction, what makes him think the guy is guilty? Pontius Pilate had a job to do too.

He has the manslaughter charge in there, so the Jury has that to consider. And the Defense will object if he flat out lies.


He already has flat out lied. No objection. It's a strategic decision whether or not to object to such shit.

MOM has shown me his competence, so i'm not worried about that. i bet he's just waiting for his closing argument to shit all over this guys BS.
My fake plants died because I did not pretend to water them.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18866 Posts
July 11 2013 18:19 GMT
#7088
Just remember, indignance wins out in the end.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 11 2013 18:20 GMT
#7089
Don't forget my drinking game. Every time BDLR mentions "fucking punks" and "assholes" we drink. Not once has he mentioned John Good, although I imagine he will to refute it (somehow). Defense surely will make a chorus line out of John Good, and to each occurrence, we shall drink !!!
Dosey
Profile Joined September 2010
United States4505 Posts
July 11 2013 18:20 GMT
#7090
On July 12 2013 03:20 Kaitlin wrote:
Don't forget my drinking game. Every time BDLR mentions "fucking punks" and "assholes" we drink. Not once has he mentioned John Good, although I imagine he will to refute it (somehow). Defense surely will make a chorus line out of John Good, and to each occurrence, we shall drink !!!

I'm already drunk bro.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 11 2013 18:20 GMT
#7091
On July 12 2013 03:20 Kaitlin wrote:
Don't forget my drinking game. Every time BDLR mentions "fucking punks" and "assholes" we drink. Not once has he mentioned John Good, although I imagine he will to refute it (somehow). Defense surely will make a chorus line out of John Good, and to each occurrence, we shall drink !!!

The faster way to get drunk is to drink every time the Defense starts talking about reasonable doubt.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 11 2013 18:21 GMT
#7092
On July 12 2013 03:18 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 03:17 Kaitlin wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:15 Plansix wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:12 sc2superfan101 wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:10 xDaunt wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:08 LegalLord wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:06 xDaunt wrote:
On July 12 2013 03:03 LegalLord wrote:
Blatant attempt to abuse the human element of a jury if I've ever seen one.

In fairness, attorneys do this all of the time.

That doesn't make it any more correct.
I'd argue that this is worse because the state, a party that is supposed to be concerned with justice rather than winning a case, is doing this.

Well, I'm not prepared to say that this is a case where the prosecution has the ethical duty to dismiss the charges. Until that point, the prosecution has a job to do.


Of course they do, they rely on lying to the jury to win their case!! how much more unecthical can you be? if he can't tell the jury the truth to get a conviction, what makes him think the guy is guilty? Pontius Pilate had a job to do too.

He has the manslaughter charge in there, so the Jury has that to consider. And the Defense will object if he flat out lies.


He already has flat out lied. No objection. It's a strategic decision whether or not to object to such shit.

What did he say? I lack sound on my work PC and Im not streaming this stuff through my phone.


Eh - scroll back just a couple of pages and search on my name. It was right at the beginning of closing argument. He started out with the second line out of his mouth. Had something to do with Trayvon is dead, "through no fault of his own". There have been subsequent blatant lies as well.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 11 2013 18:23 GMT
#7093
Lol. I'm going to steal that slide from Bernie.
SKC
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil18828 Posts
July 11 2013 18:24 GMT
#7094
Not on the "color" of her personality. That's some nice wording right there.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 11 2013 18:25 GMT
#7095
This whole Jeantel bit feels like it will do more harm than good for the prosecution's case.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 11 2013 18:25 GMT
#7096
Is BDLR offending the jury by going so hard that they should disregard Rachel Jeantel's "colorful personality" ?
GreenGringo
Profile Joined July 2013
349 Posts
July 11 2013 18:25 GMT
#7097
Prosecution is not just playing the race card; they're playing the whole deck.
Defacer
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada5052 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 18:26:46
July 11 2013 18:26 GMT
#7098
Based on all the available evidence, and the state's poorly constructed argument, Zimmerman should walk.

But at the end of the day Zimmerman still technically killed a 17 year old whose only intent that night was to visit his dad. When you step back from the situation (really, really far back) that's just seems 'wrong,' and for whatever reason, people in general have this unreasonable expectation that life is supposed to be 'fair' or 'make sense'.

I wouldn't be surprised if he was found guilty, just disappointed in -- well, the media and society for letting their emotions and desire for 'fairness' and over-rule the the importance of the law.


LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 11 2013 18:26 GMT
#7099
"She's honest, she didn't lie about Trayvon calling GZ a 'creepy ass cracker'"
"Sure, she lied to the police, but still!"
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 11 2013 18:26 GMT
#7100
On July 12 2013 03:24 SKC wrote:
Not on the "color" of her personality. That's some nice wording right there.

I don't know why he would use that word. We have planning sessions for closing arguments and we highlight words that are "no-no's" like that.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
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