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This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.

If you make an uninformed post, or one that isn't relevant to the discussion, you will be moderated. If in doubt, don't post.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 11 2013 17:37 GMT
#7021
Wow, I can't believe that the State tried to throw in child abuse and felony murder charges at the last moment. Total bullshit move. I can't even believe that the judge initially considered letting them get away with it.
Felnarion
Profile Joined December 2011
442 Posts
July 11 2013 17:38 GMT
#7022
On July 12 2013 02:33 Thieving Magpie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 02:19 Plansix wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:08 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:07 jeremycafe wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:06 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:04 Felnarion wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:01 Felnarion wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:
[quote]

He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference.


edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen.


Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact?


The running, which is what I told you, at no point does anyone say he ran anywhere.


Because its not in contention, it's recorded...


I'm not sure how you can record running, but I assume you're speaking to his breathing? The instructor rated his fitness at a 1 out of 10. He would have been huffing and puffing and had difficulty speaking consistently if he had been "running"


Its the rapidity of his steps and the decrease in sound they make when he stops. His breathing has nothing to do with it...


ROFL. So now you can hear his running footsteps? What garbage. You are fishing as much as the state is with child abuse. You have nothing so you make crap up.


There are rapid steps immediately after he gets out of the car, he is told to stop, he does, and the steps stop. He then starts walking, and you can hear slower steps.

It's not rocket science.

Magpie knock it off. You are derailing the thread again with this non-sense. You have already hashed out this argument and we know your point of view. It doesn't matter and you are just trolling up the thread.


Fine, I'll let the OP speak for me then http://bcclist.com/2012/03/27/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-map/


BCCList.com. Confirmed best website for telling you what you anyone can hear if they just listen to the tape.

It's a blog. Your proof of what is on the tape is a blog. That's idiotic.
Thieving Magpie
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
United States6752 Posts
July 11 2013 17:39 GMT
#7023
On July 12 2013 02:38 Felnarion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 02:33 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:19 Plansix wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:08 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:07 jeremycafe wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:06 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:04 Felnarion wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:01 Felnarion wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:
[quote]

Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact?


The running, which is what I told you, at no point does anyone say he ran anywhere.


Because its not in contention, it's recorded...


I'm not sure how you can record running, but I assume you're speaking to his breathing? The instructor rated his fitness at a 1 out of 10. He would have been huffing and puffing and had difficulty speaking consistently if he had been "running"


Its the rapidity of his steps and the decrease in sound they make when he stops. His breathing has nothing to do with it...


ROFL. So now you can hear his running footsteps? What garbage. You are fishing as much as the state is with child abuse. You have nothing so you make crap up.


There are rapid steps immediately after he gets out of the car, he is told to stop, he does, and the steps stop. He then starts walking, and you can hear slower steps.

It's not rocket science.

Magpie knock it off. You are derailing the thread again with this non-sense. You have already hashed out this argument and we know your point of view. It doesn't matter and you are just trolling up the thread.


Fine, I'll let the OP speak for me then http://bcclist.com/2012/03/27/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-map/


BCCList.com. Confirmed best website for telling you what you anyone can hear if they just listen to the tape.

It's a blog. Your proof of what is on the tape is a blog. That's idiotic.


I was told to stop talking about the tape, so I stopped talking about the tape. Did you not read who I was responding to.
Hark, what baseball through yonder window breaks?
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 17:44:59
July 11 2013 17:43 GMT
#7024
I could've sworn that the job of a state prosecution is to convict guilty people, not pulling random BS and trying to abuse the human element of a jury to convict a person whom the evidence STRONGLY suggests is innocent.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 11 2013 17:44 GMT
#7025
Second line: "He is dead through no fault of his own." is wrong. Way to start, BDLR.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 11 2013 17:45 GMT
#7026
Was that the picture of 12 year old Trayvon he just showed as "one of the last photos we will ever see of Trayvon" ?
ComaDose
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Canada10357 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-07-11 17:46:45
July 11 2013 17:45 GMT
#7027
On July 12 2013 02:43 LegalLord wrote:
I could've sworn that the job of a state prosecution is to convict guilty people, not pulling random BS and trying to abuse the human element of a jury to convict a person who the evidence STRONGLY suggests is innocent.

You have a great name for posting in the general section >.<
I dont think their job is to convict guilty people as much as it is to prosecute people accused of crimes.
But i agree pulling random BS is not in the job description.
BW pros training sc2 is like kiss making a dub step album.
Felnarion
Profile Joined December 2011
442 Posts
July 11 2013 17:45 GMT
#7028
This guy is doing this straight out of a hollywood movie.

BECAUSE OF THE ACTIONS OF ONE MAN. GEORGE. ZIMMERMAN.
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 11 2013 17:47 GMT
#7029
"Just tell her I killed him". Again, completely false.
shockaslim
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1105 Posts
July 11 2013 17:47 GMT
#7030
On July 12 2013 02:45 Kaitlin wrote:
Was that the picture of 12 year old Trayvon he just showed as "one of the last photos we will ever see of Trayvon" ?


That struck me as odd as well.
Dirty Deeds...DONE DIRT CHEAP!!!
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 11 2013 17:48 GMT
#7031
Just HAS to be thinking, if the prosecutor has a case, he wouldn't have to make this shit up that we know isn't true.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 11 2013 17:48 GMT
#7032
On July 12 2013 02:47 Kaitlin wrote:
"Just tell her I killed him". Again, completely false.

The state hasn't been very concerned with facts during the entire trial. I don't see them starting now.
Felnarion
Profile Joined December 2011
442 Posts
July 11 2013 17:48 GMT
#7033
On July 12 2013 02:47 Kaitlin wrote:
"Just tell her I killed him". Again, completely false.


Of course. I mean, there's no way to convict him unless you lie about what he said...He knows what he's doing. This is the whole point of this argument, to plant things in the jury's head so that they can misremember the evidence.
Felnarion
Profile Joined December 2011
442 Posts
July 11 2013 17:49 GMT
#7034
On July 12 2013 02:48 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 02:47 Kaitlin wrote:
"Just tell her I killed him". Again, completely false.

The state hasn't been very concerned with facts during the entire trial. I don't see them starting now.


Is there no way to object to a blatant lie at this point?

Couldn't he just say "Zimmerman said he enjoyed killing Trayvon and bathing in his blood. Is that the kind of man you want walking among us?"
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 11 2013 17:50 GMT
#7035
On July 12 2013 02:48 Felnarion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 02:47 Kaitlin wrote:
"Just tell her I killed him". Again, completely false.


Of course. I mean, there's no way to convict him unless you lie about what he said...He knows what he's doing. This is the whole point of this argument, to plant things in the jury's head so that they can misremember the evidence.


Yeah, but his attempt at planting these things, when the jury remembers what was actually said, really really hurts his credibility, and thus the prosecution's case.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
July 11 2013 17:50 GMT
#7036
On July 12 2013 02:49 Felnarion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 02:48 xDaunt wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:47 Kaitlin wrote:
"Just tell her I killed him". Again, completely false.

The state hasn't been very concerned with facts during the entire trial. I don't see them starting now.


Is there no way to object to a blatant lie at this point?

Couldn't he just say "Zimmerman said he enjoyed killing Trayvon and bathing in his blood. Is that the kind of man you want walking among us?"

The Defense can and should object if they're paying attention.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
July 11 2013 17:50 GMT
#7037
If the glove doesn't fit you must convict.

That's just about how I interpret this argument by the prosecution.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
jeremycafe
Profile Joined March 2009
United States354 Posts
July 11 2013 17:50 GMT
#7038
On July 12 2013 02:49 Felnarion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 02:48 xDaunt wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:47 Kaitlin wrote:
"Just tell her I killed him". Again, completely false.

The state hasn't been very concerned with facts during the entire trial. I don't see them starting now.


Is there no way to object to a blatant lie at this point?

Couldn't he just say "Zimmerman said he enjoyed killing Trayvon and bathing in his blood. Is that the kind of man you want walking among us?"


I am assuming there are no objections during closings. Otherwise they would have objected to that in a heartbeat. Should be rules against blatant lies during closing like that.
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
July 11 2013 17:51 GMT
#7039
On July 12 2013 02:37 xDaunt wrote:
Wow, I can't believe that the State tried to throw in child abuse and felony murder charges at the last moment. Total bullshit move. I can't even believe that the judge initially considered letting them get away with it.

Yeah, I thought they might have something with 3rd degree murder, but the felony murder charge is totally bullshit. But then again, when you have a terrible case, its time for terrible ideas and motions.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
July 11 2013 17:51 GMT
#7040
On July 12 2013 02:49 Felnarion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 12 2013 02:48 xDaunt wrote:
On July 12 2013 02:47 Kaitlin wrote:
"Just tell her I killed him". Again, completely false.

The state hasn't been very concerned with facts during the entire trial. I don't see them starting now.


Is there no way to object to a blatant lie at this point?

Couldn't he just say "Zimmerman said he enjoyed killing Trayvon and bathing in his blood. Is that the kind of man you want walking among us?"


Objecting during closing arguments is tricky ground. Don't want to appear as trying to obstruct the government from making their argument. If it's blatently bogus, as this is, the jury isn't dumb and the point is clear without need to object.
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