|
This is a sensitive and complex issue, please do not make comments without first reading the facts, which are cataloged in the OP.
If you make an uninformed post, or one that isn't relevant to the discussion, you will be moderated. If in doubt, don't post. |
On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 01:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:44 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 12 2013 01:40 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:36 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 01:30 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:25 GreenGringo wrote:On July 12 2013 01:22 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:21 GreenGringo wrote:On July 12 2013 01:13 Adreme wrote:
[quote]
I could never imagine a circumstance where I am calmly cussing while calling 911. Speak for yourself. I can imagine it quite easily. The prosecution must really be desperate if these are the straws you are grasping. The game of anecdotal evidence... "I wouldn't do it!" "Well I would!" Leads to nowhere yet again. Exactly. That's why innocent until proven guilty was invented and that's why under the eye of the law, George Zimmerman is an innocent man. The evidence simply points to justified homicide, not innocence. He says it was self defense, John Good's testimony makes it so. Zimmerman still shot a kid who was simply walking home. Zimmerman still got out of his car and ran toward's Martin's house. Zimmerman could have easily prevented this from happening by simple following his neighborhood watch training. Nothing you are saying is supported by the truth. At this point, this will be the last time I, and I would hope, everyone else respond to you. There is no evidence Zimmerman ran anywhere, that's a charged word you're using to try to get a response. There is evidence, quite a lot, that Zimmerman shot a 17 year old who was not simply walking home, but actually doubled back to confront Zimmerman after Zimmerman completed the phone call. Even given that you're correct on your previous points, which you're not, and you know you're not, you would still need to prove that Zimmerman started the physical exchange, which you can't do, because Trayvon wasn't harmed at all with the exception of the single gunshot. In the recording, you hear Zimmerman getting out of his car and running. The shooting happened closer to Trayvon's house than Zimmerman's car. Those are the facts. This is after he says "they always get away" These are not conjectures, this is what we have recorded. The distance from Zimmerman's truck and Martin's house is like... two blocks, if not less. There is no reason that Martin couldn't have made it home in the two minutes he had if he was actually running home. We also hear in the recording Zimmerman STOP running. Don't ignore these facts and cherry pick your own. I was told there was no evidence that Zimmerman ran anywhere, I was pointing out that that was false. He responded by talking about where Trayvon *could* have run to, much like my initial statement talked about where Zimmerman *could* have sat in (his car). He was pretending that Zimmerman never ran, and now is bringing up other points in the case when I point out that Zimmerman did run, and that Zimmerman did run after complaining about punks always getting away. This shows his state of mind, it shows what he was thinking. It's as important to know as all the other points in the case. He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference. edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen.
Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact?
|
On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:44 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 12 2013 01:40 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:36 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 01:30 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:25 GreenGringo wrote:On July 12 2013 01:22 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:21 GreenGringo wrote:
[quote]Speak for yourself. I can imagine it quite easily.
The prosecution must really be desperate if these are the straws you are grasping. The game of anecdotal evidence... "I wouldn't do it!" "Well I would!" Leads to nowhere yet again. Exactly. That's why innocent until proven guilty was invented and that's why under the eye of the law, George Zimmerman is an innocent man. The evidence simply points to justified homicide, not innocence. He says it was self defense, John Good's testimony makes it so. Zimmerman still shot a kid who was simply walking home. Zimmerman still got out of his car and ran toward's Martin's house. Zimmerman could have easily prevented this from happening by simple following his neighborhood watch training. Nothing you are saying is supported by the truth. At this point, this will be the last time I, and I would hope, everyone else respond to you. There is no evidence Zimmerman ran anywhere, that's a charged word you're using to try to get a response. There is evidence, quite a lot, that Zimmerman shot a 17 year old who was not simply walking home, but actually doubled back to confront Zimmerman after Zimmerman completed the phone call. Even given that you're correct on your previous points, which you're not, and you know you're not, you would still need to prove that Zimmerman started the physical exchange, which you can't do, because Trayvon wasn't harmed at all with the exception of the single gunshot. In the recording, you hear Zimmerman getting out of his car and running. The shooting happened closer to Trayvon's house than Zimmerman's car. Those are the facts. This is after he says "they always get away" These are not conjectures, this is what we have recorded. The distance from Zimmerman's truck and Martin's house is like... two blocks, if not less. There is no reason that Martin couldn't have made it home in the two minutes he had if he was actually running home. We also hear in the recording Zimmerman STOP running. Don't ignore these facts and cherry pick your own. I was told there was no evidence that Zimmerman ran anywhere, I was pointing out that that was false. He responded by talking about where Trayvon *could* have run to, much like my initial statement talked about where Zimmerman *could* have sat in (his car). He was pretending that Zimmerman never ran, and now is bringing up other points in the case when I point out that Zimmerman did run, and that Zimmerman did run after complaining about punks always getting away. This shows his state of mind, it shows what he was thinking. It's as important to know as all the other points in the case. He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference. edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen. Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact?
The running, which is what I told you, at no point does anyone say he ran anywhere.
|
On July 12 2013 02:01 Felnarion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:44 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 12 2013 01:40 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:36 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 01:30 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:25 GreenGringo wrote:On July 12 2013 01:22 Thieving Magpie wrote:
[quote]
The game of anecdotal evidence...
"I wouldn't do it!"
"Well I would!"
Leads to nowhere yet again. Exactly. That's why innocent until proven guilty was invented and that's why under the eye of the law, George Zimmerman is an innocent man. The evidence simply points to justified homicide, not innocence. He says it was self defense, John Good's testimony makes it so. Zimmerman still shot a kid who was simply walking home. Zimmerman still got out of his car and ran toward's Martin's house. Zimmerman could have easily prevented this from happening by simple following his neighborhood watch training. Nothing you are saying is supported by the truth. At this point, this will be the last time I, and I would hope, everyone else respond to you. There is no evidence Zimmerman ran anywhere, that's a charged word you're using to try to get a response. There is evidence, quite a lot, that Zimmerman shot a 17 year old who was not simply walking home, but actually doubled back to confront Zimmerman after Zimmerman completed the phone call. Even given that you're correct on your previous points, which you're not, and you know you're not, you would still need to prove that Zimmerman started the physical exchange, which you can't do, because Trayvon wasn't harmed at all with the exception of the single gunshot. In the recording, you hear Zimmerman getting out of his car and running. The shooting happened closer to Trayvon's house than Zimmerman's car. Those are the facts. This is after he says "they always get away" These are not conjectures, this is what we have recorded. The distance from Zimmerman's truck and Martin's house is like... two blocks, if not less. There is no reason that Martin couldn't have made it home in the two minutes he had if he was actually running home. We also hear in the recording Zimmerman STOP running. Don't ignore these facts and cherry pick your own. I was told there was no evidence that Zimmerman ran anywhere, I was pointing out that that was false. He responded by talking about where Trayvon *could* have run to, much like my initial statement talked about where Zimmerman *could* have sat in (his car). He was pretending that Zimmerman never ran, and now is bringing up other points in the case when I point out that Zimmerman did run, and that Zimmerman did run after complaining about punks always getting away. This shows his state of mind, it shows what he was thinking. It's as important to know as all the other points in the case. He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference. edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen. Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact? The running, which is what I told you, at no point does anyone say he ran anywhere.
Because its not in contention, it's recorded...
|
On July 12 2013 01:50 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 01:48 GreenGringo wrote:On July 12 2013 01:30 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:25 GreenGringo wrote:On July 12 2013 01:22 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:21 GreenGringo wrote:On July 12 2013 01:13 Adreme wrote:On July 12 2013 01:11 GreenGringo wrote:On July 12 2013 01:07 plogamer wrote:
Are you out of your mind to compare a video-game situation to a real-life situation? No, not really. People curse in real life all the time. "Fucking punks" and "assholes" can be merely an expression of minor annoyance. You're the one out of your mind if you don't realize that people all the time use words like "fucking punks" without meaning much by them. I could never imagine a circumstance where I am calmly cussing while calling 911. Speak for yourself. I can imagine it quite easily. The prosecution must really be desperate if these are the straws you are grasping. The game of anecdotal evidence... "I wouldn't do it!" "Well I would!" Leads to nowhere yet again. Exactly. That's why innocent until proven guilty was invented and that's why under the eye of the law, George Zimmerman is an innocent man. The evidence simply points to justified homicide, not innocence. He says it was self defense, John Good's testimony makes it so. Zimmerman still shot a kid who was simply walking home. Zimmerman still got out of his car and ran toward's Martin's house. Zimmerman could have easily prevented this from happening by simple following his neighborhood watch training. And this is spoken from the lofty position of hindsight. This renders your account so biased and judgemental that it's practically worthless. Some people would be called "brave" for doing exactly what Zimmerman intended to do. As far as I can tell, this "principle of never snooping on shady-looking persons" has been invented on the spot and would never have emerged if it weren't for the race thing. Invented? It happened the moment the dispatcher said "you don't have to do that sir" Of course they said that, because they've got to cover their own asses. That doesn't mean it's a generally agreed moral principle that he shouldn't do his reconnaissance. Take off your fucking witch-hunter hat for a moment and think logically.
|
Looks like 3rd degree (child abuse charge) is out. The judge is unsure about the evidence supporting it.
|
On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:44 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 12 2013 01:40 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:36 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 01:30 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:25 GreenGringo wrote:On July 12 2013 01:22 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:21 GreenGringo wrote:
[quote]Speak for yourself. I can imagine it quite easily.
The prosecution must really be desperate if these are the straws you are grasping. The game of anecdotal evidence... "I wouldn't do it!" "Well I would!" Leads to nowhere yet again. Exactly. That's why innocent until proven guilty was invented and that's why under the eye of the law, George Zimmerman is an innocent man. The evidence simply points to justified homicide, not innocence. He says it was self defense, John Good's testimony makes it so. Zimmerman still shot a kid who was simply walking home. Zimmerman still got out of his car and ran toward's Martin's house. Zimmerman could have easily prevented this from happening by simple following his neighborhood watch training. Nothing you are saying is supported by the truth. At this point, this will be the last time I, and I would hope, everyone else respond to you. There is no evidence Zimmerman ran anywhere, that's a charged word you're using to try to get a response. There is evidence, quite a lot, that Zimmerman shot a 17 year old who was not simply walking home, but actually doubled back to confront Zimmerman after Zimmerman completed the phone call. Even given that you're correct on your previous points, which you're not, and you know you're not, you would still need to prove that Zimmerman started the physical exchange, which you can't do, because Trayvon wasn't harmed at all with the exception of the single gunshot. In the recording, you hear Zimmerman getting out of his car and running. The shooting happened closer to Trayvon's house than Zimmerman's car. Those are the facts. This is after he says "they always get away" These are not conjectures, this is what we have recorded. The distance from Zimmerman's truck and Martin's house is like... two blocks, if not less. There is no reason that Martin couldn't have made it home in the two minutes he had if he was actually running home. We also hear in the recording Zimmerman STOP running. Don't ignore these facts and cherry pick your own. I was told there was no evidence that Zimmerman ran anywhere, I was pointing out that that was false. He responded by talking about where Trayvon *could* have run to, much like my initial statement talked about where Zimmerman *could* have sat in (his car). He was pretending that Zimmerman never ran, and now is bringing up other points in the case when I point out that Zimmerman did run, and that Zimmerman did run after complaining about punks always getting away. This shows his state of mind, it shows what he was thinking. It's as important to know as all the other points in the case. He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference. edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen. Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact?
There is a reason you only added quotes to they always get away. Because that is the only part he said jackass. You add "and ran" is garbage and never happened. If it did, the state would have jumped all over it. Troll harder k? thanks
|
On July 12 2013 02:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:01 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:44 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 12 2013 01:40 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:36 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 01:30 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:25 GreenGringo wrote:
[quote]Exactly. That's why innocent until proven guilty was invented and that's why under the eye of the law, George Zimmerman is an innocent man. The evidence simply points to justified homicide, not innocence. He says it was self defense, John Good's testimony makes it so. Zimmerman still shot a kid who was simply walking home. Zimmerman still got out of his car and ran toward's Martin's house. Zimmerman could have easily prevented this from happening by simple following his neighborhood watch training. Nothing you are saying is supported by the truth. At this point, this will be the last time I, and I would hope, everyone else respond to you. There is no evidence Zimmerman ran anywhere, that's a charged word you're using to try to get a response. There is evidence, quite a lot, that Zimmerman shot a 17 year old who was not simply walking home, but actually doubled back to confront Zimmerman after Zimmerman completed the phone call. Even given that you're correct on your previous points, which you're not, and you know you're not, you would still need to prove that Zimmerman started the physical exchange, which you can't do, because Trayvon wasn't harmed at all with the exception of the single gunshot. In the recording, you hear Zimmerman getting out of his car and running. The shooting happened closer to Trayvon's house than Zimmerman's car. Those are the facts. This is after he says "they always get away" These are not conjectures, this is what we have recorded. The distance from Zimmerman's truck and Martin's house is like... two blocks, if not less. There is no reason that Martin couldn't have made it home in the two minutes he had if he was actually running home. We also hear in the recording Zimmerman STOP running. Don't ignore these facts and cherry pick your own. I was told there was no evidence that Zimmerman ran anywhere, I was pointing out that that was false. He responded by talking about where Trayvon *could* have run to, much like my initial statement talked about where Zimmerman *could* have sat in (his car). He was pretending that Zimmerman never ran, and now is bringing up other points in the case when I point out that Zimmerman did run, and that Zimmerman did run after complaining about punks always getting away. This shows his state of mind, it shows what he was thinking. It's as important to know as all the other points in the case. He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference. edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen. Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact? The running, which is what I told you, at no point does anyone say he ran anywhere. Because its not in contention, it's recorded...
I'm not sure how you can record running, but I assume you're speaking to his breathing? The instructor rated his fitness at a 1 out of 10. He would have been huffing and puffing and had difficulty speaking consistently if he had been "running"
|
On July 12 2013 02:04 Felnarion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:44 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 12 2013 01:40 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:36 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 01:30 Thieving Magpie wrote:
[quote]
The evidence simply points to justified homicide, not innocence. He says it was self defense, John Good's testimony makes it so.
Zimmerman still shot a kid who was simply walking home. Zimmerman still got out of his car and ran toward's Martin's house.
Zimmerman could have easily prevented this from happening by simple following his neighborhood watch training. Nothing you are saying is supported by the truth. At this point, this will be the last time I, and I would hope, everyone else respond to you. There is no evidence Zimmerman ran anywhere, that's a charged word you're using to try to get a response. There is evidence, quite a lot, that Zimmerman shot a 17 year old who was not simply walking home, but actually doubled back to confront Zimmerman after Zimmerman completed the phone call. Even given that you're correct on your previous points, which you're not, and you know you're not, you would still need to prove that Zimmerman started the physical exchange, which you can't do, because Trayvon wasn't harmed at all with the exception of the single gunshot. In the recording, you hear Zimmerman getting out of his car and running. The shooting happened closer to Trayvon's house than Zimmerman's car. Those are the facts. This is after he says "they always get away" These are not conjectures, this is what we have recorded. The distance from Zimmerman's truck and Martin's house is like... two blocks, if not less. There is no reason that Martin couldn't have made it home in the two minutes he had if he was actually running home. We also hear in the recording Zimmerman STOP running. Don't ignore these facts and cherry pick your own. I was told there was no evidence that Zimmerman ran anywhere, I was pointing out that that was false. He responded by talking about where Trayvon *could* have run to, much like my initial statement talked about where Zimmerman *could* have sat in (his car). He was pretending that Zimmerman never ran, and now is bringing up other points in the case when I point out that Zimmerman did run, and that Zimmerman did run after complaining about punks always getting away. This shows his state of mind, it shows what he was thinking. It's as important to know as all the other points in the case. He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference. edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen. Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact? The running, which is what I told you, at no point does anyone say he ran anywhere. Because its not in contention, it's recorded... I'm not sure how you can record running, but I assume you're speaking to his breathing? The instructor rated his fitness at a 1 out of 10. He would have been huffing and puffing and had difficulty speaking consistently if he had been "running"
Its the rapidity of his steps and the decrease in sound they make when he stops. His breathing has nothing to do with it...
|
On July 12 2013 02:06 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:04 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:44 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 12 2013 01:40 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:36 Felnarion wrote:
[quote]
Nothing you are saying is supported by the truth. At this point, this will be the last time I, and I would hope, everyone else respond to you.
There is no evidence Zimmerman ran anywhere, that's a charged word you're using to try to get a response.
There is evidence, quite a lot, that Zimmerman shot a 17 year old who was not simply walking home, but actually doubled back to confront Zimmerman after Zimmerman completed the phone call.
Even given that you're correct on your previous points, which you're not, and you know you're not, you would still need to prove that Zimmerman started the physical exchange, which you can't do, because Trayvon wasn't harmed at all with the exception of the single gunshot. In the recording, you hear Zimmerman getting out of his car and running. The shooting happened closer to Trayvon's house than Zimmerman's car. Those are the facts. This is after he says "they always get away" These are not conjectures, this is what we have recorded. The distance from Zimmerman's truck and Martin's house is like... two blocks, if not less. There is no reason that Martin couldn't have made it home in the two minutes he had if he was actually running home. We also hear in the recording Zimmerman STOP running. Don't ignore these facts and cherry pick your own. I was told there was no evidence that Zimmerman ran anywhere, I was pointing out that that was false. He responded by talking about where Trayvon *could* have run to, much like my initial statement talked about where Zimmerman *could* have sat in (his car). He was pretending that Zimmerman never ran, and now is bringing up other points in the case when I point out that Zimmerman did run, and that Zimmerman did run after complaining about punks always getting away. This shows his state of mind, it shows what he was thinking. It's as important to know as all the other points in the case. He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference. edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen. Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact? The running, which is what I told you, at no point does anyone say he ran anywhere. Because its not in contention, it's recorded... I'm not sure how you can record running, but I assume you're speaking to his breathing? The instructor rated his fitness at a 1 out of 10. He would have been huffing and puffing and had difficulty speaking consistently if he had been "running" Its the rapidity of his steps and the decrease in sound they make when he stops. His breathing has nothing to do with it...
ROFL. So now you can hear his running footsteps? What garbage. You are fishing as much as the state is with child abuse. You have nothing so you make crap up.
|
On July 12 2013 02:07 jeremycafe wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:06 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:04 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:44 sc2superfan101 wrote:On July 12 2013 01:40 Thieving Magpie wrote:
[quote]
In the recording, you hear Zimmerman getting out of his car and running. The shooting happened closer to Trayvon's house than Zimmerman's car. Those are the facts.
This is after he says "they always get away"
These are not conjectures, this is what we have recorded. The distance from Zimmerman's truck and Martin's house is like... two blocks, if not less. There is no reason that Martin couldn't have made it home in the two minutes he had if he was actually running home. We also hear in the recording Zimmerman STOP running. Don't ignore these facts and cherry pick your own. I was told there was no evidence that Zimmerman ran anywhere, I was pointing out that that was false. He responded by talking about where Trayvon *could* have run to, much like my initial statement talked about where Zimmerman *could* have sat in (his car). He was pretending that Zimmerman never ran, and now is bringing up other points in the case when I point out that Zimmerman did run, and that Zimmerman did run after complaining about punks always getting away. This shows his state of mind, it shows what he was thinking. It's as important to know as all the other points in the case. He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference. edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen. Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact? The running, which is what I told you, at no point does anyone say he ran anywhere. Because its not in contention, it's recorded... I'm not sure how you can record running, but I assume you're speaking to his breathing? The instructor rated his fitness at a 1 out of 10. He would have been huffing and puffing and had difficulty speaking consistently if he had been "running" Its the rapidity of his steps and the decrease in sound they make when he stops. His breathing has nothing to do with it... ROFL. So now you can hear his running footsteps? What garbage. You are fishing as much as the state is with child abuse. You have nothing so you make crap up.
There are rapid steps immediately after he gets out of the car, he is told to stop, he does, and the steps stop. He then starts walking, and you can hear slower steps.
It's not rocket science.
User was temp banned for this post.
|
On July 12 2013 02:08 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:07 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 02:06 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:04 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:44 sc2superfan101 wrote:
[quote]
The distance from Zimmerman's truck and Martin's house is like... two blocks, if not less. There is no reason that Martin couldn't have made it home in the two minutes he had if he was actually running home.
We also hear in the recording Zimmerman STOP running.
Don't ignore these facts and cherry pick your own. I was told there was no evidence that Zimmerman ran anywhere, I was pointing out that that was false. He responded by talking about where Trayvon *could* have run to, much like my initial statement talked about where Zimmerman *could* have sat in (his car). He was pretending that Zimmerman never ran, and now is bringing up other points in the case when I point out that Zimmerman did run, and that Zimmerman did run after complaining about punks always getting away. This shows his state of mind, it shows what he was thinking. It's as important to know as all the other points in the case. He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference. edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen. Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact? The running, which is what I told you, at no point does anyone say he ran anywhere. Because its not in contention, it's recorded... I'm not sure how you can record running, but I assume you're speaking to his breathing? The instructor rated his fitness at a 1 out of 10. He would have been huffing and puffing and had difficulty speaking consistently if he had been "running" Its the rapidity of his steps and the decrease in sound they make when he stops. His breathing has nothing to do with it... ROFL. So now you can hear his running footsteps? What garbage. You are fishing as much as the state is with child abuse. You have nothing so you make crap up. There are rapid steps immediately after he gets out of the car, he is told to stop, he does, and the steps stop. He then starts walking, and you can hear slower steps. It's not rocket science.
You can hear air hitting the phone. You don't hear steps. I can be standing completely still and have the same effect on the phone based on the wind. You have no evidence of running. The state attorney is more clever than you are, they would have spun that view if they thought it to be true.
|
On July 12 2013 02:08 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:07 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 02:06 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:04 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:44 sc2superfan101 wrote:
[quote]
The distance from Zimmerman's truck and Martin's house is like... two blocks, if not less. There is no reason that Martin couldn't have made it home in the two minutes he had if he was actually running home.
We also hear in the recording Zimmerman STOP running.
Don't ignore these facts and cherry pick your own. I was told there was no evidence that Zimmerman ran anywhere, I was pointing out that that was false. He responded by talking about where Trayvon *could* have run to, much like my initial statement talked about where Zimmerman *could* have sat in (his car). He was pretending that Zimmerman never ran, and now is bringing up other points in the case when I point out that Zimmerman did run, and that Zimmerman did run after complaining about punks always getting away. This shows his state of mind, it shows what he was thinking. It's as important to know as all the other points in the case. He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference. edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen. Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact? The running, which is what I told you, at no point does anyone say he ran anywhere. Because its not in contention, it's recorded... I'm not sure how you can record running, but I assume you're speaking to his breathing? The instructor rated his fitness at a 1 out of 10. He would have been huffing and puffing and had difficulty speaking consistently if he had been "running" Its the rapidity of his steps and the decrease in sound they make when he stops. His breathing has nothing to do with it... ROFL. So now you can hear his running footsteps? What garbage. You are fishing as much as the state is with child abuse. You have nothing so you make crap up. There are rapid steps immediately after he gets out of the car, he is told to stop, he does, and the steps stop. He then starts walking, and you can hear slower steps. It's not rocket science.
Lol..relisten to the call. You can't hear footsteps at all. The idea that you could hear footsteps is absurd. If the prosecution had any proof he was running to follow, they would have used it. You're delusional, or misremembering when you heard it.
The noise you hear is wind/air/breathing, and it isn't nearly fast enough to indicate running.
Lastly, as I said, the instructor indicated Zimmerman's fitness level as a 1. If he ran for even 15-30 seconds, he would be breathing heavily on the call after stopping running, he doesn't, that's because he didn't run.
|
On July 12 2013 02:08 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:07 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 02:06 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:04 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:44 sc2superfan101 wrote:
[quote]
The distance from Zimmerman's truck and Martin's house is like... two blocks, if not less. There is no reason that Martin couldn't have made it home in the two minutes he had if he was actually running home.
We also hear in the recording Zimmerman STOP running.
Don't ignore these facts and cherry pick your own. I was told there was no evidence that Zimmerman ran anywhere, I was pointing out that that was false. He responded by talking about where Trayvon *could* have run to, much like my initial statement talked about where Zimmerman *could* have sat in (his car). He was pretending that Zimmerman never ran, and now is bringing up other points in the case when I point out that Zimmerman did run, and that Zimmerman did run after complaining about punks always getting away. This shows his state of mind, it shows what he was thinking. It's as important to know as all the other points in the case. He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference. edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen. Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact? The running, which is what I told you, at no point does anyone say he ran anywhere. Because its not in contention, it's recorded... I'm not sure how you can record running, but I assume you're speaking to his breathing? The instructor rated his fitness at a 1 out of 10. He would have been huffing and puffing and had difficulty speaking consistently if he had been "running" Its the rapidity of his steps and the decrease in sound they make when he stops. His breathing has nothing to do with it... ROFL. So now you can hear his running footsteps? What garbage. You are fishing as much as the state is with child abuse. You have nothing so you make crap up. There are rapid steps immediately after he gets out of the car, he is told to stop, he does, and the steps stop. He then starts walking, and you can hear slower steps. It's not rocket science.
This is insultingly stupid. Please stop talking.
|
On July 12 2013 02:11 Felnarion wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:08 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:07 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 02:06 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:04 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:
[quote]
I was told there was no evidence that Zimmerman ran anywhere, I was pointing out that that was false.
He responded by talking about where Trayvon *could* have run to, much like my initial statement talked about where Zimmerman *could* have sat in (his car).
He was pretending that Zimmerman never ran, and now is bringing up other points in the case when I point out that Zimmerman did run, and that Zimmerman did run after complaining about punks always getting away.
This shows his state of mind, it shows what he was thinking. It's as important to know as all the other points in the case. He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference. edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen. Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact? The running, which is what I told you, at no point does anyone say he ran anywhere. Because its not in contention, it's recorded... I'm not sure how you can record running, but I assume you're speaking to his breathing? The instructor rated his fitness at a 1 out of 10. He would have been huffing and puffing and had difficulty speaking consistently if he had been "running" Its the rapidity of his steps and the decrease in sound they make when he stops. His breathing has nothing to do with it... ROFL. So now you can hear his running footsteps? What garbage. You are fishing as much as the state is with child abuse. You have nothing so you make crap up. There are rapid steps immediately after he gets out of the car, he is told to stop, he does, and the steps stop. He then starts walking, and you can hear slower steps. It's not rocket science. Lol..relisten to the call. You can't hear footsteps at all. The idea that you could hear footsteps is absurd. If the prosecution had any proof he was running to follow, they would have used it. You're delusional, or misremembering when you heard it. The noise you hear is wind/air/breathing, and it isn't nearly fast enough to indicate running. Lastly, as I said, the instructor indicated Zimmerman's fitness level as a 1. If he ran for even 15-30 seconds, he would be breathing heavily on the call after stopping running, he doesn't, that's because he didn't run.
This wouldn't be the first time he/she has trolled this thread. Best to just stop responding. Just hate when other will come here and read the garbage this person posts thinking it was actually presented in the trial as such. Suddenly this person is more experienced at analyzing phone calls than both the defense and state. Love it.
|
On July 12 2013 02:08 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:07 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 02:06 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:04 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:44 sc2superfan101 wrote:
[quote]
The distance from Zimmerman's truck and Martin's house is like... two blocks, if not less. There is no reason that Martin couldn't have made it home in the two minutes he had if he was actually running home.
We also hear in the recording Zimmerman STOP running.
Don't ignore these facts and cherry pick your own. I was told there was no evidence that Zimmerman ran anywhere, I was pointing out that that was false. He responded by talking about where Trayvon *could* have run to, much like my initial statement talked about where Zimmerman *could* have sat in (his car). He was pretending that Zimmerman never ran, and now is bringing up other points in the case when I point out that Zimmerman did run, and that Zimmerman did run after complaining about punks always getting away. This shows his state of mind, it shows what he was thinking. It's as important to know as all the other points in the case. He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference. edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen. Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact? The running, which is what I told you, at no point does anyone say he ran anywhere. Because its not in contention, it's recorded... I'm not sure how you can record running, but I assume you're speaking to his breathing? The instructor rated his fitness at a 1 out of 10. He would have been huffing and puffing and had difficulty speaking consistently if he had been "running" Its the rapidity of his steps and the decrease in sound they make when he stops. His breathing has nothing to do with it... ROFL. So now you can hear his running footsteps? What garbage. You are fishing as much as the state is with child abuse. You have nothing so you make crap up. There are rapid steps immediately after he gets out of the car, he is told to stop, he does, and the steps stop. He then starts walking, and you can hear slower steps. It's not rocket science.
Magpie knock it off. You are derailing the thread again with this non-sense. You have already hashed out this argument and we know your point of view. It doesn't matter and you are just trolling up the thread.
|
On July 12 2013 01:40 Thieving Magpie wrote:
In the recording, you hear Zimmerman getting out of his car and running. The shooting happened closer to Trayvon's house than Zimmerman's car. Those are the facts.
You cannot hear Zimmerman running. That is absolutely false. You hear the sound of air against the phone, otherwise known as wind. The shooting did NOT happen closer to Trayvon's house (actually his father's girlfriend's house, but whatever) than Zimmerman's car. Your 2 stated facts are absolutely wrong.
|
On July 12 2013 02:08 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:07 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 02:06 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:04 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:44 sc2superfan101 wrote:
[quote]
The distance from Zimmerman's truck and Martin's house is like... two blocks, if not less. There is no reason that Martin couldn't have made it home in the two minutes he had if he was actually running home.
We also hear in the recording Zimmerman STOP running.
Don't ignore these facts and cherry pick your own. I was told there was no evidence that Zimmerman ran anywhere, I was pointing out that that was false. He responded by talking about where Trayvon *could* have run to, much like my initial statement talked about where Zimmerman *could* have sat in (his car). He was pretending that Zimmerman never ran, and now is bringing up other points in the case when I point out that Zimmerman did run, and that Zimmerman did run after complaining about punks always getting away. This shows his state of mind, it shows what he was thinking. It's as important to know as all the other points in the case. He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference. edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen. Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact? The running, which is what I told you, at no point does anyone say he ran anywhere. Because its not in contention, it's recorded... I'm not sure how you can record running, but I assume you're speaking to his breathing? The instructor rated his fitness at a 1 out of 10. He would have been huffing and puffing and had difficulty speaking consistently if he had been "running" Its the rapidity of his steps and the decrease in sound they make when he stops. His breathing has nothing to do with it... ROFL. So now you can hear his running footsteps? What garbage. You are fishing as much as the state is with child abuse. You have nothing so you make crap up. There are rapid steps immediately after he gets out of the car, he is told to stop, he does, and the steps stop. He then starts walking, and you can hear slower steps. It's not rocket science.
How in God's name are you hearing footsteps on this, especially with how awful the audio is?
|
On July 12 2013 01:50 Thieving Magpie wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 01:48 GreenGringo wrote:On July 12 2013 01:30 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:25 GreenGringo wrote:On July 12 2013 01:22 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:21 GreenGringo wrote:On July 12 2013 01:13 Adreme wrote:On July 12 2013 01:11 GreenGringo wrote:On July 12 2013 01:07 plogamer wrote:
Are you out of your mind to compare a video-game situation to a real-life situation? No, not really. People curse in real life all the time. "Fucking punks" and "assholes" can be merely an expression of minor annoyance. You're the one out of your mind if you don't realize that people all the time use words like "fucking punks" without meaning much by them. I could never imagine a circumstance where I am calmly cussing while calling 911. Speak for yourself. I can imagine it quite easily. The prosecution must really be desperate if these are the straws you are grasping. The game of anecdotal evidence... "I wouldn't do it!" "Well I would!" Leads to nowhere yet again. Exactly. That's why innocent until proven guilty was invented and that's why under the eye of the law, George Zimmerman is an innocent man. The evidence simply points to justified homicide, not innocence. He says it was self defense, John Good's testimony makes it so. Zimmerman still shot a kid who was simply walking home. Zimmerman still got out of his car and ran toward's Martin's house. Zimmerman could have easily prevented this from happening by simple following his neighborhood watch training. And this is spoken from the lofty position of hindsight. This renders your account so biased and judgemental that it's practically worthless. Some people would be called "brave" for doing exactly what Zimmerman intended to do. As far as I can tell, this "principle of never snooping on shady-looking persons" has been invented on the spot and would never have emerged if it weren't for the race thing. Invented? It happened the moment the dispatcher said "you don't have to do that sir"
If you're going to quote, be accurate. What you quoted was never said.
|
On July 11 2013 23:21 PanzerKing wrote:Show nested quote +On July 11 2013 23:13 Plansix wrote:On July 11 2013 23:03 PanzerKing wrote:On July 11 2013 22:52 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 11 2013 22:30 GreenHorizons wrote:On July 11 2013 22:28 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 11 2013 20:45 LaughingTulkas wrote:On July 11 2013 15:13 dAPhREAk wrote:On July 11 2013 14:58 Kaitlin wrote:
If she didn't shut down West so quickly, she would have quickly understood that they weren't going to discuss it until the witnesses concluded. Her shutting down West pre-emptively was also exhibited Monday when he was explaining that he needed to proffer the "text message" expert witness for the authentication. She interrupted him repeatedly, preventing him from explaining that, and it ultimately delayed the explanation. She shut him down, and proceeded as if the proffer wasn't necessary, and eventually relented to accept the proffer once she finally allowed West to complete his fucking sentence.
Similarly, in this case about GZ. Had she let his attorney represent his client, and make the point that they weren't going to make that decision until after the witnesses were concluded, she could have avoided the repeated questions and wasted time.
edit:
So, I'm not sure how she saved any time by repeatedly asking the same questions that she would have known weren't going to be answered if she weren't a complete bitch about it. im sorry, but the defense attorneys have nothing to complain about. they spent this whole trial blabbering and the court has repeatedly told them to stfu, but they continue to blabber. i imagine the court is quite frustrated with them at this point. this isnt some bias thing. they are always yapping their mouths. So your stated opinion is that the DEFENSE is always yapping their mouths and taking too long? Just wow. I mean... don't you think... wow. This is one of (definitely not the most, but up there) uniformed and biased thoughts I've seen in a while. I don't even think I can respond because if this is really how you see it, then I'm pretty sure mere facts won't convince you. they are constantly doing speaking objections, and constantly getting reprimanded by the court for it. it is a procedural no-no and they dont feel compelled to change their habits. a first year law student knows a speaking objection is improper. I imagine it's largely a result of the national attention. Natural to be more confrontational when in front of an audience in a situation like this (especially if he is as confident in his case as you are) Edit: probably more accurate to say if he thinks the prosecutors case is as weak as you do whatever the reasons for them doing it, it is annoying that they feel the need to continue to do it. violating the rules and then constantly getting reprimanded by the court in front of the jury is a disservice to their client. it makes them look like shoddy attorneys, which as far as their trial presentation is actually the case. there is no reason for them to constantly make speaking objections. just say "objection" and state the basis; no need to yap their mouths on and on until the court rightfully tells them to stfu. There are times when you might want to continue talking after objecting, as a strategic matter. If a witness's testimony is damaging and you want to break up their flow or distract the jury's attention, you might want to make as many objections as possible and talk as much as possible while doing so. Against less experienced attorneys, you might even agitate them and disrupt their questioning. Or you might want to make a clear record so that an issue is preserved for appeal - in that case, you want to err on the side of caution and make your point as explicit as possible. Also, timing is important - you might want to drag out a witness's testimony so that the more damaging part happens later in the day when people have less energy and are paying less attention, or time it so that their testimony concludes the following day when the jury's memory of the first day's testimony is not as fresh. Also, the longer it takes to get through direct, the more time you have to plan out and prep for your cross. Generally (and especially as a prosecutor) you don't want to irritate the court and potentially the jury by being verbose in your objections, but there are definitely situations where it is a viable strategy. Even if it is with good reason or they are doing it on purpose, the judge is right to shut them down and stop them from making speaking objections. These folks are counsel in open court and they are expected to know the rules. If they willing ignore them or "forget" them, the Judge has is in the right to tell them, "stfu and stop clogging my court with your stupid crap" After you touch the stove once and get burned, you are expected not to touch it again. You're absolutely right. I'm only saying that zealous advocacy and following proper courtroom etiquette don't always comport, and a good attorney always does what's best for his client, within his judgment.
Also the prosecution has made it clear that it's not just speaking objections that are bad, but specifically DEFENSE speaking objections. They have done it time and time again. If anyone loves to run their mouth, it's the prosecution. They just get away with so you don't notice.
|
On July 12 2013 02:19 Plansix wrote:Show nested quote +On July 12 2013 02:08 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:07 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 02:06 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:04 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:02 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Felnarion wrote:On July 12 2013 02:01 Thieving Magpie wrote:On July 12 2013 01:54 jeremycafe wrote:On July 12 2013 01:48 Thieving Magpie wrote:
[quote]
I was told there was no evidence that Zimmerman ran anywhere, I was pointing out that that was false.
He responded by talking about where Trayvon *could* have run to, much like my initial statement talked about where Zimmerman *could* have sat in (his car).
He was pretending that Zimmerman never ran, and now is bringing up other points in the case when I point out that Zimmerman did run, and that Zimmerman did run after complaining about punks always getting away.
This shows his state of mind, it shows what he was thinking. It's as important to know as all the other points in the case. He obviously mis-spoke. There has been no attempt by the state to say zimmerman was running. None. You are completely making this "fact" up to justify the garbage spilling from your mouth. He was following, not chasing. Big difference. edit: It really amazes me how someone will add "facts" to what is actually stated while watching this trial. You are so biased that you are changing the events to fit your mind set of what happened. Sorry, your version didn't happen. Zimmerman did not say "they always get away" then got out of his car, and ran? Which part of that was an added fact? The running, which is what I told you, at no point does anyone say he ran anywhere. Because its not in contention, it's recorded... I'm not sure how you can record running, but I assume you're speaking to his breathing? The instructor rated his fitness at a 1 out of 10. He would have been huffing and puffing and had difficulty speaking consistently if he had been "running" Its the rapidity of his steps and the decrease in sound they make when he stops. His breathing has nothing to do with it... ROFL. So now you can hear his running footsteps? What garbage. You are fishing as much as the state is with child abuse. You have nothing so you make crap up. There are rapid steps immediately after he gets out of the car, he is told to stop, he does, and the steps stop. He then starts walking, and you can hear slower steps. It's not rocket science. Magpie knock it off. You are derailing the thread again with this non-sense. You have already hashed out this argument and we know your point of view. It doesn't matter and you are just trolling up the thread.
Fine, I'll let the OP speak for me then http://bcclist.com/2012/03/27/trayvon-martin-george-zimmerman-map/
|
|
|
|
|
|
EPT
