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bOneSeven
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Romania685 Posts
February 10 2012 04:49 GMT
#1
Some rather weird stuff going on that I'm not sure about wth is going on , as it would seem: "LA bans Frisbees and footballs on beach; enacts $1000 fine for violators" --- "The new rules now prohibit "any person to cast, toss, throw, kick or roll" any object other than a beach ball or volleyball "upon or over any beach."

What the ... ? Really ?

Full ordinance here: http://file.lacounty.gov/bos/supdocs/65848.pdf

Another source: http://www.kfiam640.com/pages/Handel2.html?article=9735438#ixzz1luErvs7v

Well, if you browse for weird laws you gonna find a ton in the U.S., like having dog fight with cats illegal, wearing ( god damn it can't remember how was that called ) some specific form of clothing again illegal, in different states of course... Actually first heard about it on the TV Series "Oz" ( which by the way was a really bad ass TV Series ) .

Now banning common activity on beaches for no good reason ... How is this not retarded ?

PS: I'll try to keep thread updated ( tho I'm having exams in a few hours ) with different sources if TLers post some here
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KimJongChill
Profile Joined January 2011
United States6429 Posts
February 10 2012 04:51 GMT
#2
I dunno, I can see how over-protective parents would complain about the dangers of stray recreational tools.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
February 10 2012 04:53 GMT
#3
What the hell, this is actually serious? Everybody plays frisbee and football on the beach >.>

Why exactly was this put in anyway? It's not like there was an overly large amount of frisbee + football related deaths at the beach...
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
February 10 2012 04:53 GMT
#4
Seems like a "locals vs. tourists" thing to me.
SoLaR[i.C]
Profile Blog Joined August 2003
United States2969 Posts
February 10 2012 04:55 GMT
#5
no footballs on the beach and no raw-doggin' in porn? LA sucks.
nvs.
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada3609 Posts
February 10 2012 04:56 GMT
#6
What the.....

No frisbee at the beach?
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 04:57:29
February 10 2012 04:56 GMT
#7
My god it's there...:
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Screencapped right out of the document.
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Shebuha
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada1335 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 05:03:57
February 10 2012 05:02 GMT
#8
This is why I hadn't moved to LA yet! I was too damn afraid of going to the beach and getting hit in the head by a frisbee or football. Now this awesome law is in place and I'm moving Monday! I live in Canada and there isn't much football up here, and no one uses frisbees because they freeze mid-air before they get to your friend.

?? Weird law, my friend.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 05:06:27
February 10 2012 05:04 GMT
#9
Dear LA,
There's a reason you're not America's Finest City.

From,
SD.

Haha jk, I love Los Angeles and I've lived there, but this law is just ridiculous .
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
February 10 2012 05:05 GMT
#10
Dumb law, shouldn't be enacted if you ask me.
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aksfjh
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4853 Posts
February 10 2012 05:06 GMT
#11
It's probably to minimize the amount of males at the beach or something. Idk, sounds ridiculous.
r.Evo
Profile Joined August 2006
Germany14080 Posts
February 10 2012 05:10 GMT
#12
"Honey, catch that water bottle!" BAMN FINE

"Ima throw away that chewing gum paper from right over here!" BAMN FINE

"Mom, that kid kicked a coka cola can!" BAMN FINE


...sounds like it's gonna work like that. =D
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wunsun
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada622 Posts
February 10 2012 05:12 GMT
#13
Uhm.... what the hell. Usually weird laws are from days long ago where they somewhat make sense. This law, passed now, blows my mind.... it doesn't make any sense.
xtfftc
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2343 Posts
February 10 2012 05:15 GMT
#14
I hate to be the guy who says it but that's hardly surprising. The culture of making everything (everything but things you pay for in one form or another) forbidden is becoming more and more dominant in the US and the UK.
inn5013orecl
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States227 Posts
February 10 2012 05:24 GMT
#15
On February 10 2012 14:04 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Dear LA,
There's a reason you're not America's Finest City.

From,
SD.

Haha jk, I love Los Angeles and I've lived there, but this law is just ridiculous .


Didn't need to add the jk. lived in both cities...SD >>> LA...except for food (minus mexican).
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remedium
Profile Joined July 2011
United States939 Posts
February 10 2012 05:25 GMT
#16
Shoot, one less coast where I can show off my QB skills to the ladies.

This law must have something else to it. Is there any legislative history?
Stay positive!
BlueBoxSC
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States582 Posts
February 10 2012 05:26 GMT
#17
On February 10 2012 13:55 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
no footballs on the beach and no raw-doggin' in porn? LA sucks.


Instantly thought of the other thread as soon as I saw LA.

Doesn't seem like the place to be.

BwCBlueBox.837
TheAmazombie
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States3714 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 05:27:09
February 10 2012 05:26 GMT
#18
LA sucks anyway. Every few years I am talked into going back for some reason and every time I regret it and leave as soon as I can. This is just dumb.
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smokeyhoodoo
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1021 Posts
February 10 2012 05:27 GMT
#19
This law will not be followed nor enforced. It will be forgotten, because no one gives a shit.
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SilverLeagueElite
Profile Joined April 2010
United States626 Posts
February 10 2012 05:31 GMT
#20
US has lots of frivolous laws. I recall some law making it illegal to put ice cream into your pocket. Bureaucrats with nothing to do make up arbitrary laws in a farcical effort to show that taxpayer money is being well spent. "See? We're doing something."
Tivu
Profile Joined February 2012
United States244 Posts
February 10 2012 05:51 GMT
#21
Wow...another stupid law that our government approves. You guys are doing fine job...not!
Probe1
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States17920 Posts
February 10 2012 05:56 GMT
#22
Lol I love these. Find a dumb law that for some reason was written - usually to combat a specific problem - and is rarely IF EVER enforced and laugh about the people of that geographical area. It's all the fun of being pretentious without troubling yourself to find a reason!
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Bagration
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States18282 Posts
February 10 2012 05:59 GMT
#23
Probably arose from safety concerns and the risk of litigation. Damn overlitigation, and that's coming from a guy studying law.
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Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 10 2012 06:00 GMT
#24
On February 10 2012 14:56 Probe1 wrote:
Lol I love these. Find a dumb law that for some reason was written - usually to combat a specific problem - and is rarely IF EVER enforced and laugh about the people of that geographical area. It's all the fun of being pretentious without troubling yourself to find a reason!


The Romanians have to keep themselves entertained somehow.
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brain_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States812 Posts
February 10 2012 06:01 GMT
#25
Woo LA. I got a $200 ticket for riding my in the bike lane on the left side of the street... When there were no cars and the nearest intersection was all red lights for a diagonal crossing. :/
Vindicare605
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States16056 Posts
February 10 2012 06:03 GMT
#26
This law doesn't make sense unless you see how big the crowds at the beach get during the summer.

With that in mind, it starts to make sense if a bit harsh. This law isn't in effect anytime other than the summer busy season where no one really would be doing these activities anyway because of how crowded it was. Now they are just forbidden by law from doing it.
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Sovano
Profile Joined November 2011
United States1503 Posts
February 10 2012 06:06 GMT
#27
Well I'm just going on a hunch, but it probably has to do with public safety issues. Beach balls and volleyballs are not likely to cause any physical damage, unlike Frisbees I suppose. The beaches may be filled to the point where there isn't enough open space to do such activities like Ultimate Frisbee.
clik
Profile Joined May 2010
United States319 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 06:10:07
February 10 2012 06:09 GMT
#28
There's only one explanation for this and I would assume it is to prevent situations like these.

Mordanis
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States893 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 06:11:52
February 10 2012 06:10 GMT
#29
Meanwhile in Arizona this is happening

Essentially some of our fine legislators have decided that college campuses need to allow firearms instead of deciding to give them more funds. I think AZ wins in the weird laws contest :D

I have to say that its quite funny how they tried to sound official, and then realized that they couldn't accomplish what they wanted in official language. No balls except for this category (oh fuck, what if someone has a rugby ball or something like that..... fuck it) No balls except for beach balls and volleyballs. That being said, the lawyer in me says that "beach ball" could be vague enough to include really anything, so if someone has the + Show Spoiler +
balls
they should sue LA over this.
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Peanutbutter717
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States240 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 06:11:12
February 10 2012 06:10 GMT
#30
This sucks, I go to the beach alot. But thank god I can still play some beach volleyball. Wouldve been funny if they banned that too because AVP (when they werent bankrupt) payed Huntington money to host their events there.

Nobody will listen, the guys with the footballs are just like the guys on that corona commercial, to impress that girl (most of them) they won't enforce it, theres nobody that even patrols the beaches at all.
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Arathore
Profile Joined January 2011
104 Posts
February 10 2012 06:13 GMT
#31
What the hell are college kids gonna do at the beach if they can't go around and throw frisbees?
VashTS
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1675 Posts
February 10 2012 06:16 GMT
#32
IIRC:

In Florida, it's illegal to make animal noises in public (and that's not inuendo for sex).
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Aardvarke
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
104 Posts
February 10 2012 06:19 GMT
#33
On February 10 2012 14:31 SilverLeagueElite wrote:
US has lots of frivolous laws. I recall some law making it illegal to put ice cream into your pocket.


haha, this is actually kentucky... in the old days, if a horse followed you home, you could keep it... horses apparently like ice cream cones
GhandiEAGLE
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States20754 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 06:24:18
February 10 2012 06:23 GMT
#34
LA is really having fun with its law makers lately.

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brain_
Profile Joined June 2010
United States812 Posts
February 10 2012 06:24 GMT
#35
On February 10 2012 15:10 Mordanis wrote:
Meanwhile in Arizona this is happening

Essentially some of our fine legislators have decided that college campuses need to allow firearms instead of deciding to give them more funds. I think AZ wins in the weird laws contest :D

I have to say that its quite funny how they tried to sound official, and then realized that they couldn't accomplish what they wanted in official language. No balls except for this category (oh fuck, what if someone has a rugby ball or something like that..... fuck it) No balls except for beach balls and volleyballs. That being said, the lawyer in me says that "beach ball" could be vague enough to include really anything, so if someone has the + Show Spoiler +
balls
they should sue LA over this.



Allowing concealed carry on campus is a legit debate that has caused controversy all over the country... Banning beach balls, on the other hand... Well...
Liquid`Zephyr
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States996 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 06:27:41
February 10 2012 06:26 GMT
#36
albeit incredibly stupid, seems like something that would never ever be enforced. that said - is a beach ball a specific thing with a specific definition? if not im sure you can claim whatever ball you want to be one
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kibeth
Profile Joined August 2010
United States116 Posts
February 10 2012 06:30 GMT
#37
On February 10 2012 15:24 brain_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 10 2012 15:10 Mordanis wrote:
Meanwhile in Arizona this is happening

Essentially some of our fine legislators have decided that college campuses need to allow firearms instead of deciding to give them more funds. I think AZ wins in the weird laws contest :D

I have to say that its quite funny how they tried to sound official, and then realized that they couldn't accomplish what they wanted in official language. No balls except for this category (oh fuck, what if someone has a rugby ball or something like that..... fuck it) No balls except for beach balls and volleyballs. That being said, the lawyer in me says that "beach ball" could be vague enough to include really anything, so if someone has the + Show Spoiler +
balls
they should sue LA over this.



Allowing concealed carry on campus is a legit debate that has caused controversy all over the country... Banning beach balls, on the other hand... Well...


And it makes sense because Arizona has been on a big conservative swing in the legislature over the past couple years
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6259 Posts
February 10 2012 06:32 GMT
#38
Well, this kinds of "litigation-proof" laws are pretty common in America!

The citizens need to ring their local MP to complain!
KillAudio
Profile Joined October 2010
1364 Posts
February 10 2012 06:40 GMT
#39
As an ultimate (frisbee) player, this pisses me off. What a stupid law.
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Razakel
Profile Joined April 2011
Ireland466 Posts
February 10 2012 06:50 GMT
#40
On February 10 2012 15:13 Arathore wrote:
What the hell are college kids gonna do at the beach if they can't go around and throw frisbees?


+ Show Spoiler +
Drink heavily and chew tobacco.


On a serious note, this seems pointless, can you imagine a bunch of people sitting around a table thinking YES! This is it, people are always complaining about the dangers of frisbee throwing and football kicking. As well as the extremely dangerous practice of throwing smartphones that's sprung up over the last few years.

I have to wonder why even make this law? Couldn't lawmakers divert resources into legitimate concerns? Was there an agenda drawn up and this just made it to the top of the list? Can't say I'm too bothered by this since I don't even live in the U.S. but I do wonder what motivated people to make this law.
eu.exodus
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
South Africa1186 Posts
February 10 2012 07:08 GMT
#41
how exactly would this be enforced? they going to have cops stationed at every beach waiting for someone to throw the wrong kind of ball?

pretty retarded.
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v3chr0
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States856 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 07:24:07
February 10 2012 07:21 GMT
#42
I hate this kind of stuff, because it's just one more reason for the police to harass you, and cause more problems upon the action of stopping people from playing on a beach, and then if you are doing anything else wrong, drinking, smoking, etc, you probably get caught, stuff like this seems so minor but it builds up to quite a bit of lost freedoms, wasted time and on the law enforcement's behalf.

I'm 99% sure in New Jersey if your underwear is showing/pants are "saggy" you can get fined, the department is called like Metropolitan Etiquette Authority or something similar. Yea it sounds decent under whatever reasons, but theyre absurd, the Government should never be the one putting those restrictions on you. Like I previously mentioned, it gives them another reason to harass/inspect you, and you lose privilege over these weird/small laws.
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Spieltor
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
327 Posts
February 10 2012 07:59 GMT
#43
On February 10 2012 16:21 v3chr0 wrote:
I hate this kind of stuff, because it's just one more reason for the police to harass you, and cause more problems upon the action of stopping people from playing on a beach, and then if you are doing anything else wrong, drinking, smoking, etc, you probably get caught, stuff like this seems so minor but it builds up to quite a bit of lost freedoms, wasted time and on the law enforcement's behalf.

I'm 99% sure in New Jersey if your underwear is showing/pants are "saggy" you can get fined, the department is called like Metropolitan Etiquette Authority or something similar. Yea it sounds decent under whatever reasons, but theyre absurd, the Government should never be the one putting those restrictions on you. Like I previously mentioned, it gives them another reason to harass/inspect you, and you lose privilege over these weird/small laws.


you realize thats exssentially why so many laws exist.

throwing a frisbee on the beach.
throwing a frisbee in a designated no throw zone.
throwing a frisbee in a crowded area, causing a public danger.
Throwing a frisbee etc etc....

The more laws, the more counts you get.

And then add on anything else you're doing you could be fined or jailed for.

Its basically a way to stack as many charges as possible on someone. thats how the U.S. justice system works.
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SCDoGo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States92 Posts
February 10 2012 08:02 GMT
#44
I see this as a lousy attempt at revenue generation.
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Akamu
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States309 Posts
February 10 2012 08:11 GMT
#45
On February 10 2012 15:06 Sovano wrote:
Well I'm just going on a hunch, but it probably has to do with public safety issues. Beach balls and volleyballs are not likely to cause any physical damage, unlike Frisbees I suppose. The beaches may be filled to the point where there isn't enough open space to do such activities like Ultimate Frisbee.


As a beach volleyball player i can promise you volleyballs can be just as dangerous as footballs. When the big dogs are playing that shit flies, whether it's a erred serve or a missed dig I've seen people get owned at our less crowded beach in Milwaukee. They just couldn't possibly ban a very popular and competitive beach specific sport.
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momonami5
Profile Joined July 2011
United States109 Posts
February 10 2012 08:33 GMT
#46
doubt the cops is gonna be camping out the beachs, in la crime city.
Agathon
Profile Joined February 2011
France1505 Posts
February 10 2012 08:47 GMT
#47
http://www.dumblaws.com/laws

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BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10487 Posts
February 10 2012 08:50 GMT
#48
The law is you need to get permission from a life guard then you are fine to play, otherwise you could get fined. I have no idea what the purpose of the law is but it's probably just more nanny-state garbage that California and New York are becoming well known for.
pred470r
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Bulgaria3265 Posts
February 10 2012 08:56 GMT
#49
I doubt that anyone is gonna follow this law because it's stupid and makes no sense.
storm44
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1293 Posts
February 10 2012 09:00 GMT
#50
They wouldn't be able to see the frisbee through all the smog in LA anyways.
FREEloss_ca
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada603 Posts
February 10 2012 09:03 GMT
#51
Just a broke ass state trying to get money any way it can; even by robbing its own people. This law is a cash grab.
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Existential
Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
February 10 2012 09:08 GMT
#52
Wow, what a stupid law. Though I don't think many people will follow nor enforce it.
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xtruder
Profile Joined October 2011
Afghanistan135 Posts
February 10 2012 16:55 GMT
#53
lol @ all the people not able to use critical thinking in this thread. People were probably getting hit by these things and getting hurt. getting hit by a frisbee in the head isn't pleasant. a beachball or volleyball is ok since it's less serious.
bOneSeven
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
Romania685 Posts
February 10 2012 17:07 GMT
#54
On February 11 2012 01:55 xtruder wrote:
lol @ all the people not able to use critical thinking in this thread. People were probably getting hit by these things and getting hurt. getting hit by a frisbee in the head isn't pleasant. a beachball or volleyball is ok since it's less serious.


you have good logic, being hit by a freesbee in the head is almost 10 times as worse as being hit by a volleyball in the head....oh wait is that the other way around? I kinda feel like I'm getting trolled by this "afgani" guy .... troll again :D
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shinosai
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States1577 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 18:11:47
February 10 2012 18:11 GMT
#55
On February 11 2012 01:55 xtruder wrote:
lol @ all the people not able to use critical thinking in this thread. People were probably getting hit by these things and getting hurt. getting hit by a frisbee in the head isn't pleasant. a beachball or volleyball is ok since it's less serious.


Getting hit by a car also isn't pleasant. Personally I think they should get rid of cars. They are very dangerous and cause a lot of damage. I think getting into a car accident is even more likely than getting hit by a frisbee, and certainly a lot more painful.
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Yongwang
Profile Joined January 2012
United States196 Posts
February 10 2012 20:05 GMT
#56
This is ridiculous, a lot of the more liberal/socialist areas of California have authoritarian laws like this. Especially San Francisco, where they're banning everything from happy meals to circumcision to gold fish.
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Seanza
Profile Joined November 2011
171 Posts
February 10 2012 20:08 GMT
#57
There are worse, but this is really silly. Next law update will include removal of sand on the beach or no running allowed on the beach because sand might go in your eye.

Ridiculous lol.
cmen15
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States1519 Posts
February 10 2012 20:09 GMT
#58
You see this is why EAST COAST FOR LIFE!!!
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ecstatica
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States542 Posts
February 10 2012 20:14 GMT
#59
I like the law. Always hated folks running around yelling and splashing sand everywhere like it's their playground. I think this is common sense for people with manners and respect for others.
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HaXXspetten
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Sweden15718 Posts
February 10 2012 20:14 GMT
#60
I don't even... why the hell would this be necessary??
Sinensis
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2513 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-10 20:17:22
February 10 2012 20:17 GMT
#61
cast, toss, throw, kick or roll


Officer we are not casting, tossing, throwing, kicking, OR rolling this football; we are PASSING it!
Cirn9
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
1117 Posts
February 10 2012 20:22 GMT
#62
No stray objects whacking people. No people running to catch an object colliding into others I guess.

what silliness
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Krikkitone
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1451 Posts
February 10 2012 20:32 GMT
#63
Actually they are Loosening/Changing the law.

The law was already in place.

They changed it so that
1. it did not apply in off season (when the beach would not be crowded)
2. in 'on season' is would be at lifeguard discretion
(fine may be a bit large, but you want people to actually stop if the lifeguard says so)
ecstatica
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States542 Posts
February 10 2012 20:33 GMT
#64
On February 11 2012 05:32 Krikkitone wrote:
Actually they are Loosening/Changing the law.

The law was already in place.

They changed it so that
1. it did not apply in off season (when the beach would not be crowded)
2. in 'on season' is would be at lifeguard discretion
(fine may be a bit large, but you want people to actually stop if the lifeguard says so)


In the end it doesn't seem like that stupid of an idea, does it? Way to sensationalize something trivial.
NeMeSiS3, Portlandian, Reason,
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
February 10 2012 21:10 GMT
#65
On February 11 2012 05:32 Krikkitone wrote:
Actually they are Loosening/Changing the law.

The law was already in place.

They changed it so that
1. it did not apply in off season (when the beach would not be crowded)
2. in 'on season' is would be at lifeguard discretion
(fine may be a bit large, but you want people to actually stop if the lifeguard says so)

It's amazing what a little context does to a story. ;=)
WritersBlock
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada91 Posts
February 10 2012 21:17 GMT
#66
I thought this was being put in place because some sick people think its funny to put nails/razors in frisbees and that it was becoming as issue? Maybe I'm confusing this with something else though..
NagAfightinG
Profile Joined March 2011
United Kingdom270 Posts
February 10 2012 21:35 GMT
#67
On February 11 2012 06:17 WritersBlock wrote:
I thought this was being put in place because some sick people think its funny to put nails/razors in frisbees and that it was becoming as issue? Maybe I'm confusing this with something else though..

That sounds as dumb as the myth of people putting razors in candy at Halloween.
We live like animals thinking of the afterlive
Stratos_speAr
Profile Joined May 2009
United States6959 Posts
February 10 2012 21:43 GMT
#68
On February 10 2012 14:15 xtfftc wrote:
I hate to be the guy who says it but that's hardly surprising. The culture of making everything (everything but things you pay for in one form or another) forbidden is becoming more and more dominant in the US and the UK.


Damn, I was really hoping it wasn't spreading to the UK. That was my contingency plan should stuff get too ass-backwards here.
A sound mind in a sound body, is a short, but full description of a happy state in this World: he that has these two, has little more to wish for; and he that wants either of them, will be little the better for anything else.
g.
Profile Joined June 2011
Australia123 Posts
February 11 2012 06:01 GMT
#69
merica is free and democratic.


lol jks
Roro row your boat, Soulkey up the stream. Merrily, merrily, merrily, merrily, Life is but a dream.
Terrix
Profile Joined August 2010
Germany305 Posts
February 11 2012 06:04 GMT
#70
How could this be? What's the point of a beach without a frisbee?

I mean I understand the dangers of a frisbee hitting somebody in the face (on both the giving and receiving ends of this) but frisbee's are standard to beach activity. You can't make enough laws for people to be careful. Where does it end? No running up stairs law?

This is ridiculous.
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
February 11 2012 17:17 GMT
#71
Wow, this is pretty crazy, lol. I love reading about dumb laws. I remember my parents used to have a board game called Real Dumb Laws, it was basically a trivia game about some of the dumbest laws in the nation.

Ah, good times!
Procrastination is the enemy
nooboon
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
2602 Posts
February 11 2012 17:43 GMT
#72
Reminds me of when a school banned sports equipment that was not a tennis ball or Nerf toys. Next, they will be banning tanning on sunny days.
MrF
Profile Joined October 2011
United States320 Posts
February 11 2012 17:47 GMT
#73
This nerf to footballs and frisbees is going to make volly balls way to OP on any beach maps.
HunterXHunter is awesome
Befree
Profile Joined April 2010
695 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-11 18:30:55
February 11 2012 18:23 GMT
#74
This is a very careless OP which needs to be fixed because it is clearly spreading too much misinformation. And some of you guys really need should research before you start using such harsh language for the county's decision.

This revision to the law was a revision which reduced their strictness. Previously beach balls were listed under the law. But because of the growing popularity of things like beach tennis and beach soccer, they made the change.

The other part of the change which relates to footballs and frisbees is the law is being changed from an outright ban on them instead to allowing them to be played in the offseason, in specific areas, with a permit, or if you get permission from the lifeguard. This is something you could not do before under the previous rules.

They said the $100 fine just for cases if people are being idiots and continuously are throwing in large crowds, or continue to throw after a lifeguard tells them to stop.

A more accurate title would be "Weird Old Law in LA County [which was changed]"

Beach director says Frisbees are fine
+ Show Spoiler +
Contrary to what you may have heard, it's OK to toss a Frisbee at the beach.

Santos Kreimann says he has nothing against Frisbees at the beach—honest. And it’s OK with him if you want to toss a football along the shore, too, as long as you do it responsibly.

That’s why the county’s Beaches & Harbors director was baffled Thursday to find that what his department views as a liberalization of the rules for beach recreation is being widely misinterpreted to mean that Frisbee- and football-throwing is now subject to a $1,000 fine.

Not so, Kreimann says. After years of outright prohibition, a new ordinance which received final approval this week spells out for the first time the conditions under which Frisbees and footballs are allowed on county beaches—basically, in the off-season, or with a permit or permission from the lifeguard.

For years, he said, that kind of recreation had been outlawed altogether “to prohibit some knucklehead from acting like an idiot on the beach.”

The Frisbee flap has received big play on the airwaves and the Internet. The Drudge Report headlined an incorrect report by a local TV station: “LA County Approves $1,000 Fine For Throwing Football, Frisbees On Beaches.” Inquiries have poured into county offices from reporters as far away as London. The Los Angeles Times provided a factually accurate counterpoint to the coverage with an article headlined: “Ball playing, Frisbee tossing now allowed on L.A. County beaches.”

The new ordinance does give the county the right to ticket Frisbee scofflaws, like people who persist in throwing into large summer crowds, or when asked not to by a lifeguard. The first offense is $100—an amount set by the California Government Code. (Read the department’s statement on the ordinance here.)

Still, Kreimann doesn’t expect many citations will be issued.

“We don’t ticket anybody for throwing a ball on the beach, as long as they’re doing it responsibly,” he said.

As for those new $1,000 fines you may have heard about: yes, they’re in the ordinance but they apply to only a few kinds of misbehavior.

Those include nudity, shooting weapons and swimming or surfing during hazardous conditions or in prohibited areas.

The revisions to the ball-playing section of the ordinance were prompted in part by the growing popularity of sports like beach tennis and beach soccer, which are now permissible under certain conditions.

Posted 2/9/12


After reading more through this thread, it is just completely embarrassing. This isn't acceptable. Being so ignorant AND being so aggressive in your attack against something which you don't understand is just shameful. I'm not going to pick out posts, but look through about every other post and you'll find someone who has no idea what they're talking about yet believes they can insult the county, the people who revised the law, or even the country.

We gotta change this and increase the quality of posting on these news articles. If we all just do a little research or put some thought into something before we start criticizing or spouting ignorance, we'll have much nicer news threads.
xiaoW
Profile Joined September 2010
Netherlands284 Posts
February 12 2012 03:04 GMT
#75
Context context context...

it's more like it's updated and improved
FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
February 12 2012 03:10 GMT
#76
Can we throw football's and frisbees over the water at the beach?
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
CptCutter
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom370 Posts
February 12 2012 03:15 GMT
#77
On February 10 2012 14:10 r.Evo wrote:
"Honey, catch that water bottle!" BAMN FINE

"Ima throw away that chewing gum paper from right over here!" BAMN FINE

"Mom, that kid kicked a coka cola can!" BAMN FINE


...sounds like it's gonna work like that. =D


i dont get it... are you talking about littering? because littering should be fine-able... besides, every throws bottles of water to pass them around, cant see them banning it. other than that your sarcasm is crap.
Scorm
Profile Joined April 2011
United States104 Posts
February 12 2012 03:22 GMT
#78
This makes me feel good to know that my tax dollars are going towards legislation like this as this will make the community a safer place. (Obvious sarcasm)

The government is wholly incompetent...
“It's too bad that stupidity isn't painful.” -Anton LaVey
Kaitlin
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 03:26:11
February 12 2012 03:22 GMT
#79
On February 12 2012 03:23 Befree wrote:
This is a very careless OP which needs to be fixed because it is clearly spreading too much misinformation. And some of you guys really need should research before you start using such harsh language for the county's decision.

This revision to the law was a revision which reduced their strictness. Previously beach balls were listed under the law. But because of the growing popularity of things like beach tennis and beach soccer, they made the change.

The other part of the change which relates to footballs and frisbees is the law is being changed from an outright ban on them instead to allowing them to be played in the offseason, in specific areas, with a permit, or if you get permission from the lifeguard. This is something you could not do before under the previous rules.

They said the $100 fine just for cases if people are being idiots and continuously are throwing in large crowds, or continue to throw after a lifeguard tells them to stop.

A more accurate title would be "Weird Old Law in LA County [which was changed]"

Beach director says Frisbees are fine
+ Show Spoiler +
Contrary to what you may have heard, it's OK to toss a Frisbee at the beach.

Santos Kreimann says he has nothing against Frisbees at the beach—honest. And it’s OK with him if you want to toss a football along the shore, too, as long as you do it responsibly.

That’s why the county’s Beaches & Harbors director was baffled Thursday to find that what his department views as a liberalization of the rules for beach recreation is being widely misinterpreted to mean that Frisbee- and football-throwing is now subject to a $1,000 fine.

Not so, Kreimann says. After years of outright prohibition, a new ordinance which received final approval this week spells out for the first time the conditions under which Frisbees and footballs are allowed on county beaches—basically, in the off-season, or with a permit or permission from the lifeguard.

For years, he said, that kind of recreation had been outlawed altogether “to prohibit some knucklehead from acting like an idiot on the beach.”

The Frisbee flap has received big play on the airwaves and the Internet. The Drudge Report headlined an incorrect report by a local TV station: “LA County Approves $1,000 Fine For Throwing Football, Frisbees On Beaches.” Inquiries have poured into county offices from reporters as far away as London. The Los Angeles Times provided a factually accurate counterpoint to the coverage with an article headlined: “Ball playing, Frisbee tossing now allowed on L.A. County beaches.”

The new ordinance does give the county the right to ticket Frisbee scofflaws, like people who persist in throwing into large summer crowds, or when asked not to by a lifeguard. The first offense is $100—an amount set by the California Government Code. (Read the department’s statement on the ordinance here.)

Still, Kreimann doesn’t expect many citations will be issued.

“We don’t ticket anybody for throwing a ball on the beach, as long as they’re doing it responsibly,” he said.

As for those new $1,000 fines you may have heard about: yes, they’re in the ordinance but they apply to only a few kinds of misbehavior.

Those include nudity, shooting weapons and swimming or surfing during hazardous conditions or in prohibited areas.

The revisions to the ball-playing section of the ordinance were prompted in part by the growing popularity of sports like beach tennis and beach soccer, which are now permissible under certain conditions.

Posted 2/9/12


After reading more through this thread, it is just completely embarrassing. This isn't acceptable. Being so ignorant AND being so aggressive in your attack against something which you don't understand is just shameful. I'm not going to pick out posts, but look through about every other post and you'll find someone who has no idea what they're talking about yet believes they can insult the county, the people who revised the law, or even the country.

We gotta change this and increase the quality of posting on these news articles. If we all just do a little research or put some thought into something before we start criticizing or spouting ignorance, we'll have much nicer news threads.


Actually, the problem is people posting misleading, often sensationalist (and completely wrong) OPs. That's the problem.
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
February 12 2012 03:23 GMT
#80
So.... Ron Paul 2012?
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
CounterOrder
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada457 Posts
February 12 2012 03:48 GMT
#81
On February 12 2012 02:47 MrF wrote:
This nerf to footballs and frisbees is going to make volly balls way to OP on any beach maps.


lol, wp.

TL can be a depressing place. So much sad news and people. Sometimes its completely misleading as it is in this case.
Doesnt sound so bad, if people are being shoved out of the way or having to avoid a large part of the beach due to a few people then w/e. The silly thing is that it seems to take affect when all the tourists show up. Then again if i lived there and wasnt a tourist that probably wouldnt bother me to much. Sucks for people on vacation or w/e i guess.
ScaSully
Profile Joined April 2011
United States488 Posts
February 12 2012 03:51 GMT
#82
i think its to stop the frisby from getting to the deep part of the ocean and people drowning, i beleive i watched this on the news
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Arthemesia
Profile Joined May 2011
United States292 Posts
February 12 2012 03:51 GMT
#83
I think it should be fine as long as they're not in the way of people. I think the problem is people not using common sense and continuing to play in the middle of a lot of people and hitting them repeatedly.
Deadeight
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1629 Posts
February 12 2012 04:08 GMT
#84
I'm guessing it's something put in place so that when someone gets hit in the head with a frisbee they can say "Well you shouldn't have been playing frisbee", rather than actually stopping people playing frisbee.
bubblegumbo
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Taiwan1296 Posts
February 12 2012 04:09 GMT
#85
LA is finding new ways to promote the video game industry.
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper is a genius. For man to survive, they need toilet paper!"- Nal_rA
RyuChus
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada442 Posts
February 12 2012 04:52 GMT
#86
They're probably just trying to make loads of money, easily. People who haven't heard of this law can probably be easily fined by the government.
I have an announcement to make, "Moo!" That is all.
VediVeci
Profile Joined October 2011
United States82 Posts
February 12 2012 04:55 GMT
#87
LA beaches can get pretty crowded, if everybody is throwing a frisbee, football, etc. it can get dangerous.

I still oppose the law, but it isn't totally irrational.
Arisen
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States2382 Posts
February 12 2012 04:58 GMT
#88
I would make fun of this, but there's a law about not being able to tie alligators up to our firehydrants, so I can't really talk shit
"If you're not angry, you're not paying attention"
TheLOLas
Profile Joined May 2011
United States646 Posts
February 12 2012 05:09 GMT
#89
they are baning healthy physical activity? what the hell?
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
February 12 2012 05:13 GMT
#90
lolol this is not going to sit well with football fans.
Kuja
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
United States1759 Posts
February 12 2012 05:13 GMT
#91
On February 12 2012 14:09 TheLOLas wrote:
they are baning healthy physical activity? what the hell?

Rape is a healthy physical activity, by your logic why isnt rape legal? Think before you talk.
“Who's to say that my light is better than your darkness? Who's to say death is better than your darkness? Who am I to say?”
NeMeSiS3
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Canada2972 Posts
February 12 2012 05:13 GMT
#92
More and more and more joke laws placed in the United States...
FoTG fighting!
Darpa
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Canada4413 Posts
February 12 2012 05:20 GMT
#93
On February 10 2012 13:55 SoLaR[i.C] wrote:
no footballs on the beach and no raw-doggin' in porn? LA sucks.



Fuck me that comment made me laugh my ass off! Well played sir!


But seriously, I doubt they will seriously enforce this law, seems pretty outrageous
"losers always whine about their best, Winners go home and fuck the prom queen"
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
February 12 2012 05:24 GMT
#94
Rape is a healthy physical activity, by your logic why isnt rape legal? Think before you talk


Rape isn't a healthy physical activity for either party... think before you talk.
no place i'd rather be than the satellite of love
bigwig123
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
163 Posts
February 12 2012 05:26 GMT
#95
we have something like this in nj, cant throw a football on the beach
Flamingo777
Profile Joined October 2010
United States1190 Posts
February 12 2012 05:32 GMT
#96
On February 12 2012 14:24 DeepElemBlues wrote:
Show nested quote +
Rape is a healthy physical activity, by your logic why isnt rape legal? Think before you talk


Rape isn't a healthy physical activity for either party... think before you talk.

I agree, rape is not a healthy physical activity. Consensual statutory rape could be considered a healthy physical activity, I guess, even though it is socially wrong, perhaps even psychologically hurtful depending on the age of the minor. I'm trying to mend 'DeepElemBlues' 's logic here, albeit I'm finding it quite hard.
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
February 12 2012 05:33 GMT
#97
On February 12 2012 14:13 Kuja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 14:09 TheLOLas wrote:
they are baning healthy physical activity? what the hell?

Rape is a healthy physical activity, by your logic why isnt rape legal? Think before you talk.


Really? Come on, man. Rape is a terrible, terrible thing that no one should have to experience. Please don't joke about it.

And exactly how is it healthy, anyways?
Procrastination is the enemy
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
February 12 2012 05:38 GMT
#98
haha cool ok I get it... no wait actually I don't
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
Romulox
Profile Joined October 2011
United States125 Posts
February 12 2012 05:40 GMT
#99
If you have ever listened to Adam Carolla you know what LA is like. The city only cares about making money and doing as little other stuff as possible (for their citizens). Thank Jesus I live in Culver City.
Ramona Flowers
Profile Joined February 2012
United States8 Posts
February 12 2012 16:30 GMT
#100
Sucks. I guess.
I'll try to play some frisbee on the beach next weekend.
It was just a phase.
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
February 12 2012 16:34 GMT
#101
On February 11 2012 06:17 WritersBlock wrote:
I thought this was being put in place because some sick people think its funny to put nails/razors in frisbees and that it was becoming as issue? Maybe I'm confusing this with something else though..

And doing what with it? Becoming the next bond villain?
Flyingdutchman
Profile Joined March 2009
Netherlands858 Posts
February 12 2012 17:12 GMT
#102
The law seems incredibly silly, but the amount you can get fined is even more ridiculous. 1000 bucks, really?
MonDeW
Profile Joined June 2011
Denmark369 Posts
February 12 2012 19:28 GMT
#103
Why are there so many little boundaries in modern society? It's fucking 9/11 that has made everyone so naive and overprotective. This is fucking rediculous.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-12 22:02:10
February 12 2012 22:01 GMT
#104
When mass misunderstanding is occurring in the thread, take a close look at OP because most of the times root of the problem is going to be there. In fact people just won't post stories like that if they did not perceive this as "sensational", meaning every OP is likely biased in a way that makes the content more interesting than it is. Viewer discretion is advised.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
TheLOLas
Profile Joined May 2011
United States646 Posts
February 12 2012 22:03 GMT
#105
On February 12 2012 14:13 Kuja wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 14:09 TheLOLas wrote:
they are baning healthy physical activity? what the hell?

Rape is a healthy physical activity, by your logic why isnt rape legal? Think before you talk.

Rape is not a healthy activity. It hurts another person. Therefore, it is illegal.
driftme
Profile Joined June 2010
United States360 Posts
February 13 2012 22:44 GMT
#106
moderators, please fix the OP

this isnt a "new law". its an edit to the existing text of a law.

instead of specifying the allowed projectiles based on size, they specifically stated which balls are allowed. this is an improvement on the original text because it allows for less confusion. (where's the diameter of a football? long way or short way? lol)
cydereal
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States193 Posts
February 13 2012 23:05 GMT
#107
This is the only time I've ever said this, but... this is a law that makes Orange County look permissive by comparison.
Abort Retry Fail
Profile Joined December 2011
2636 Posts
February 13 2012 23:23 GMT
#108
Really? lol
was there any incident that justifies this?
where's the fun in the beach if you cant even play beach volleyball
BSOD
codonbyte
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States840 Posts
February 13 2012 23:32 GMT
#109
On February 14 2012 07:44 driftme wrote:
moderators, please fix the OP

this isnt a "new law". its an edit to the existing text of a law.

instead of specifying the allowed projectiles based on size, they specifically stated which balls are allowed. this is an improvement on the original text because it allows for less confusion. (where's the diameter of a football? long way or short way? lol)


Either way, the law is still ridiculous. The fact that this is an "improvement" over an older law makes it all the more ridiculous.
Procrastination is the enemy
scaban84
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1080 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 23:39:35
February 13 2012 23:39 GMT
#110
On February 13 2012 04:28 MonDeW wrote:
Why are there so many little boundaries in modern society? It's fucking 9/11 that has made everyone so naive and overprotective. This is fucking rediculous.

Its not 9/11. Feminism is trying to castrate society because all physical activity aside from dancing to Lady Gaga is considered evil and degenerate. At least that's the way lawmakers see it. Congress is staffed with a bunch of emasculate "do-gooders" pandering to hyper-litigious liberals in states like California.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design." — Friedrich von Hayek
radscorpion9
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada2252 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-13 23:53:31
February 13 2012 23:50 GMT
#111
On February 13 2012 07:01 Hesmyrr wrote:
When mass misunderstanding is occurring in the thread, take a close look at OP because most of the times root of the problem is going to be there. In fact people just won't post stories like that if they did not perceive this as "sensational", meaning every OP is likely biased in a way that makes the content more interesting than it is. Viewer discretion is advised.


Yeah I realized that too after being on TL for a little while. Almost all of the sensational posts end up being big misunderstandings (like the pizza is a vegetable one) that few pick up on because they assumed the OP was right about everything and didn't do any fact checking of their own.

I'm glad for it though, I'm a lot more skeptical now and don't take things at face value. There's usually one or two people at least who pick up on it though. For example Befree on page 4 (this thread) makes a pretty detailed post about how this is actually allowing balls that couldn't be thrown before. As to why the older law was in place, I think we'd need to learn more about that too before making accusations.
driftme
Profile Joined June 2010
United States360 Posts
February 14 2012 14:31 GMT
#112
On February 14 2012 08:50 radscorpion9 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 07:01 Hesmyrr wrote:
When mass misunderstanding is occurring in the thread, take a close look at OP because most of the times root of the problem is going to be there. In fact people just won't post stories like that if they did not perceive this as "sensational", meaning every OP is likely biased in a way that makes the content more interesting than it is. Viewer discretion is advised.


Yeah I realized that too after being on TL for a little while. Almost all of the sensational posts end up being big misunderstandings (like the pizza is a vegetable one) that few pick up on because they assumed the OP was right about everything and didn't do any fact checking of their own.

I'm glad for it though, I'm a lot more skeptical now and don't take things at face value. There's usually one or two people at least who pick up on it though. For example Befree on page 4 (this thread) makes a pretty detailed post about how this is actually allowing balls that couldn't be thrown before. As to why the older law was in place, I think we'd need to learn more about that too before making accusations.


Accusations about what? The people who are up in arms about this "new law" likely had no idea about the original law. The only reason they're shouting about it now is because they read a thread title that said "LA BANS FOOTBALL" and they went straight to indignant fury, rather than actually READING the change for themselves and realizing that OP is a moron.
Cel.erity
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4890 Posts
February 14 2012 14:35 GMT
#113
Typical democrats and their anti-frisbee agenda.
We found Dove in a soapless place.
Bazzyrick
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom361 Posts
February 14 2012 14:36 GMT
#114
This is SO DANGEROUS WHAT THE HELL.

Whats next? Make smoking illegal?
..
.
.
Bam.
You exist because we allow it and you will end because we demand it.
Dranak
Profile Joined July 2011
United States464 Posts
February 14 2012 17:34 GMT
#115
On February 12 2012 03:23 Befree wrote:
This is a very careless OP which needs to be fixed because it is clearly spreading too much misinformation. And some of you guys really need should research before you start using such harsh language for the county's decision.

This revision to the law was a revision which reduced their strictness. Previously beach balls were listed under the law. But because of the growing popularity of things like beach tennis and beach soccer, they made the change.

The other part of the change which relates to footballs and frisbees is the law is being changed from an outright ban on them instead to allowing them to be played in the offseason, in specific areas, with a permit, or if you get permission from the lifeguard. This is something you could not do before under the previous rules.

They said the $100 fine just for cases if people are being idiots and continuously are throwing in large crowds, or continue to throw after a lifeguard tells them to stop.

A more accurate title would be "Weird Old Law in LA County [which was changed]"

Beach director says Frisbees are fine
+ Show Spoiler +
Contrary to what you may have heard, it's OK to toss a Frisbee at the beach.

Santos Kreimann says he has nothing against Frisbees at the beach—honest. And it’s OK with him if you want to toss a football along the shore, too, as long as you do it responsibly.

That’s why the county’s Beaches & Harbors director was baffled Thursday to find that what his department views as a liberalization of the rules for beach recreation is being widely misinterpreted to mean that Frisbee- and football-throwing is now subject to a $1,000 fine.

Not so, Kreimann says. After years of outright prohibition, a new ordinance which received final approval this week spells out for the first time the conditions under which Frisbees and footballs are allowed on county beaches—basically, in the off-season, or with a permit or permission from the lifeguard.

For years, he said, that kind of recreation had been outlawed altogether “to prohibit some knucklehead from acting like an idiot on the beach.”

The Frisbee flap has received big play on the airwaves and the Internet. The Drudge Report headlined an incorrect report by a local TV station: “LA County Approves $1,000 Fine For Throwing Football, Frisbees On Beaches.” Inquiries have poured into county offices from reporters as far away as London. The Los Angeles Times provided a factually accurate counterpoint to the coverage with an article headlined: “Ball playing, Frisbee tossing now allowed on L.A. County beaches.”

The new ordinance does give the county the right to ticket Frisbee scofflaws, like people who persist in throwing into large summer crowds, or when asked not to by a lifeguard. The first offense is $100—an amount set by the California Government Code. (Read the department’s statement on the ordinance here.)

Still, Kreimann doesn’t expect many citations will be issued.

“We don’t ticket anybody for throwing a ball on the beach, as long as they’re doing it responsibly,” he said.

As for those new $1,000 fines you may have heard about: yes, they’re in the ordinance but they apply to only a few kinds of misbehavior.

Those include nudity, shooting weapons and swimming or surfing during hazardous conditions or in prohibited areas.

The revisions to the ball-playing section of the ordinance were prompted in part by the growing popularity of sports like beach tennis and beach soccer, which are now permissible under certain conditions.

Posted 2/9/12


After reading more through this thread, it is just completely embarrassing. This isn't acceptable. Being so ignorant AND being so aggressive in your attack against something which you don't understand is just shameful. I'm not going to pick out posts, but look through about every other post and you'll find someone who has no idea what they're talking about yet believes they can insult the county, the people who revised the law, or even the country.

We gotta change this and increase the quality of posting on these news articles. If we all just do a little research or put some thought into something before we start criticizing or spouting ignorance, we'll have much nicer news threads.


Can we get this copied into the OP? Seems they actually loosened a previous ban.
driftme
Profile Joined June 2010
United States360 Posts
February 14 2012 22:38 GMT
#116
On February 15 2012 02:34 Dranak wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2012 03:23 Befree wrote:
This is a very careless OP which needs to be fixed because it is clearly spreading too much misinformation. And some of you guys really need should research before you start using such harsh language for the county's decision.

This revision to the law was a revision which reduced their strictness. Previously beach balls were listed under the law. But because of the growing popularity of things like beach tennis and beach soccer, they made the change.

The other part of the change which relates to footballs and frisbees is the law is being changed from an outright ban on them instead to allowing them to be played in the offseason, in specific areas, with a permit, or if you get permission from the lifeguard. This is something you could not do before under the previous rules.

They said the $100 fine just for cases if people are being idiots and continuously are throwing in large crowds, or continue to throw after a lifeguard tells them to stop.

A more accurate title would be "Weird Old Law in LA County [which was changed]"

Beach director says Frisbees are fine
+ Show Spoiler +
Contrary to what you may have heard, it's OK to toss a Frisbee at the beach.

Santos Kreimann says he has nothing against Frisbees at the beach—honest. And it’s OK with him if you want to toss a football along the shore, too, as long as you do it responsibly.

That’s why the county’s Beaches & Harbors director was baffled Thursday to find that what his department views as a liberalization of the rules for beach recreation is being widely misinterpreted to mean that Frisbee- and football-throwing is now subject to a $1,000 fine.

Not so, Kreimann says. After years of outright prohibition, a new ordinance which received final approval this week spells out for the first time the conditions under which Frisbees and footballs are allowed on county beaches—basically, in the off-season, or with a permit or permission from the lifeguard.

For years, he said, that kind of recreation had been outlawed altogether “to prohibit some knucklehead from acting like an idiot on the beach.”

The Frisbee flap has received big play on the airwaves and the Internet. The Drudge Report headlined an incorrect report by a local TV station: “LA County Approves $1,000 Fine For Throwing Football, Frisbees On Beaches.” Inquiries have poured into county offices from reporters as far away as London. The Los Angeles Times provided a factually accurate counterpoint to the coverage with an article headlined: “Ball playing, Frisbee tossing now allowed on L.A. County beaches.”

The new ordinance does give the county the right to ticket Frisbee scofflaws, like people who persist in throwing into large summer crowds, or when asked not to by a lifeguard. The first offense is $100—an amount set by the California Government Code. (Read the department’s statement on the ordinance here.)

Still, Kreimann doesn’t expect many citations will be issued.

“We don’t ticket anybody for throwing a ball on the beach, as long as they’re doing it responsibly,” he said.

As for those new $1,000 fines you may have heard about: yes, they’re in the ordinance but they apply to only a few kinds of misbehavior.

Those include nudity, shooting weapons and swimming or surfing during hazardous conditions or in prohibited areas.

The revisions to the ball-playing section of the ordinance were prompted in part by the growing popularity of sports like beach tennis and beach soccer, which are now permissible under certain conditions.

Posted 2/9/12


After reading more through this thread, it is just completely embarrassing. This isn't acceptable. Being so ignorant AND being so aggressive in your attack against something which you don't understand is just shameful. I'm not going to pick out posts, but look through about every other post and you'll find someone who has no idea what they're talking about yet believes they can insult the county, the people who revised the law, or even the country.

We gotta change this and increase the quality of posting on these news articles. If we all just do a little research or put some thought into something before we start criticizing or spouting ignorance, we'll have much nicer news threads.


Can we get this copied into the OP? Seems they actually loosened a previous ban.



Really, a mod should do that AND either change the subject, or close the thread. This is ridiculous, the amount of people who read the subject and then post is mind boggling.
Playguuu
Profile Joined April 2010
United States926 Posts
February 14 2012 22:49 GMT
#117
On February 10 2012 15:09 clik wrote:
There's only one explanation for this and I would assume it is to prevent situations like these.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fz5vwDJU78


Lol wtf did I just watch? Puts down uzi so he can catch a razor disk meanwhile the other guy has pistol in his pocket.
I used to be just like you, then I took a sweetroll to the knee.
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
February 14 2012 22:49 GMT
#118
On February 11 2012 01:55 xtruder wrote:
lol @ all the people not able to use critical thinking in this thread. People were probably getting hit by these things and getting hurt. getting hit by a frisbee in the head isn't pleasant. a beachball or volleyball is ok since it's less serious.


I guess we can all figure out this guy doesn't go out to the beach that often...
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
Mr Showtime
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1353 Posts
February 14 2012 22:55 GMT
#119
On February 10 2012 15:01 brain_ wrote:
Woo LA. I got a $200 ticket for riding my in the bike lane on the left side of the street... When there were no cars and the nearest intersection was all red lights for a diagonal crossing. :/


I mean.... there's no good reason for you to do that. But given the circumstances, a $200 ticket is pretty crazy
NoobSkills
Profile Joined August 2009
United States1598 Posts
February 14 2012 23:00 GMT
#120
On February 10 2012 13:49 bOneSeven wrote:
Some rather weird stuff going on that I'm not sure about wth is going on , as it would seem: "LA bans Frisbees and footballs on beach; enacts $1000 fine for violators" --- "The new rules now prohibit "any person to cast, toss, throw, kick or roll" any object other than a beach ball or volleyball "upon or over any beach."

What the ... ? Really ?

Full ordinance here: http://file.lacounty.gov/bos/supdocs/65848.pdf

Another source: http://www.kfiam640.com/pages/Handel2.html?article=9735438#ixzz1luErvs7v

Well, if you browse for weird laws you gonna find a ton in the U.S., like having dog fight with cats illegal, wearing ( god damn it can't remember how was that called ) some specific form of clothing again illegal, in different states of course... Actually first heard about it on the TV Series "Oz" ( which by the way was a really bad ass TV Series ) .

Now banning common activity on beaches for no good reason ... How is this not retarded ?

PS: I'll try to keep thread updated ( tho I'm having exams in a few hours ) with different sources if TLers post some here


Interesting that this OP is from Romania.
There are so many laws like this and not even good laws in fact some of them allow dumb stuff to happen.
South Carolina in 3 countys it is legal to beat your spouse on the courtroom steps. Either way as far as the law is concerned. And even though there are laws that have made spousal abuse illegal this is an exception law, so could still be argued in court (though I doubt it will).

What is interesting to me is that this law has no need to be in place either. If you happen to be the one person who dies by frisbee on a beach you kind of just need to say fuck it and accept the outcome right? One and a billion chance that a frisbee will headshot you for +100, but I think I would take the risk.
andrewlt
Profile Joined August 2009
United States7702 Posts
February 15 2012 01:09 GMT
#121
On February 15 2012 07:38 driftme wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2012 02:34 Dranak wrote:
On February 12 2012 03:23 Befree wrote:
This is a very careless OP which needs to be fixed because it is clearly spreading too much misinformation. And some of you guys really need should research before you start using such harsh language for the county's decision.

This revision to the law was a revision which reduced their strictness. Previously beach balls were listed under the law. But because of the growing popularity of things like beach tennis and beach soccer, they made the change.

The other part of the change which relates to footballs and frisbees is the law is being changed from an outright ban on them instead to allowing them to be played in the offseason, in specific areas, with a permit, or if you get permission from the lifeguard. This is something you could not do before under the previous rules.

They said the $100 fine just for cases if people are being idiots and continuously are throwing in large crowds, or continue to throw after a lifeguard tells them to stop.

A more accurate title would be "Weird Old Law in LA County [which was changed]"

Beach director says Frisbees are fine
+ Show Spoiler +
Contrary to what you may have heard, it's OK to toss a Frisbee at the beach.

Santos Kreimann says he has nothing against Frisbees at the beach—honest. And it’s OK with him if you want to toss a football along the shore, too, as long as you do it responsibly.

That’s why the county’s Beaches & Harbors director was baffled Thursday to find that what his department views as a liberalization of the rules for beach recreation is being widely misinterpreted to mean that Frisbee- and football-throwing is now subject to a $1,000 fine.

Not so, Kreimann says. After years of outright prohibition, a new ordinance which received final approval this week spells out for the first time the conditions under which Frisbees and footballs are allowed on county beaches—basically, in the off-season, or with a permit or permission from the lifeguard.

For years, he said, that kind of recreation had been outlawed altogether “to prohibit some knucklehead from acting like an idiot on the beach.”

The Frisbee flap has received big play on the airwaves and the Internet. The Drudge Report headlined an incorrect report by a local TV station: “LA County Approves $1,000 Fine For Throwing Football, Frisbees On Beaches.” Inquiries have poured into county offices from reporters as far away as London. The Los Angeles Times provided a factually accurate counterpoint to the coverage with an article headlined: “Ball playing, Frisbee tossing now allowed on L.A. County beaches.”

The new ordinance does give the county the right to ticket Frisbee scofflaws, like people who persist in throwing into large summer crowds, or when asked not to by a lifeguard. The first offense is $100—an amount set by the California Government Code. (Read the department’s statement on the ordinance here.)

Still, Kreimann doesn’t expect many citations will be issued.

“We don’t ticket anybody for throwing a ball on the beach, as long as they’re doing it responsibly,” he said.

As for those new $1,000 fines you may have heard about: yes, they’re in the ordinance but they apply to only a few kinds of misbehavior.

Those include nudity, shooting weapons and swimming or surfing during hazardous conditions or in prohibited areas.

The revisions to the ball-playing section of the ordinance were prompted in part by the growing popularity of sports like beach tennis and beach soccer, which are now permissible under certain conditions.

Posted 2/9/12


After reading more through this thread, it is just completely embarrassing. This isn't acceptable. Being so ignorant AND being so aggressive in your attack against something which you don't understand is just shameful. I'm not going to pick out posts, but look through about every other post and you'll find someone who has no idea what they're talking about yet believes they can insult the county, the people who revised the law, or even the country.

We gotta change this and increase the quality of posting on these news articles. If we all just do a little research or put some thought into something before we start criticizing or spouting ignorance, we'll have much nicer news threads.


Can we get this copied into the OP? Seems they actually loosened a previous ban.



Really, a mod should do that AND either change the subject, or close the thread. This is ridiculous, the amount of people who read the subject and then post is mind boggling.



I know. I already reported the post. It's not the first time this dude did this. He also started at least three other threads about local US news in the past couple of weeks. One of them was already closed by EvilTeletubby. Another had a similar biased OP that had material information about extenuating circumstances edited in later.

The guy is from Romania. The news he posts are all local news happening in the US without any international significance. We have too many threads about local news that are started by people with no idea of local history, culture and norms while missing too much background information on the topic. Honestly, many people should just stop posting news threads concerning countries that are not their own, unless they are really, really educated about the topic.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
February 15 2012 01:13 GMT
#122
On February 14 2012 08:39 scaban84 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2012 04:28 MonDeW wrote:
Why are there so many little boundaries in modern society? It's fucking 9/11 that has made everyone so naive and overprotective. This is fucking rediculous.

Its not 9/11. Feminism is trying to castrate society because all physical activity aside from dancing to Lady Gaga is considered evil and degenerate. At least that's the way lawmakers see it. Congress is staffed with a bunch of emasculate "do-gooders" pandering to hyper-litigious liberals in states like California.

there's a lot of jokes in this forum, you included.
midftw
Profile Joined January 2012
Canada170 Posts
February 15 2012 01:21 GMT
#123
that just applies to public beaches. if you have your private beach you can throw w.e you want
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
February 15 2012 01:52 GMT
#124
On February 15 2012 10:21 songohan wrote:
that just applies to public beaches. if you have your private beach you can throw w.e you want

Damn I gotta get one of those.
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