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On March 28 2012 17:09 MethodSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 16:47 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 16:41 Spieltor wrote:On March 28 2012 16:25 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 15:51 MethodSC wrote:On March 28 2012 15:43 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 15:17 Kich wrote:On March 28 2012 15:10 D10 wrote:
Did you know that when you get angry you actually improve your capacity of objectively analizing your problem.
When angry people do stupid things, (like kill a wife because shes cheating on you) its because in his sick mind he has placed the blame of the problem on the wrong target, and seeks an immediate solution.
Usually people perform better when angry The first sentence here seems to contradict the second and then agree with the third. I don't really follow. What i mean is that problems managing anger doesnt mean it doesnt improve your hability to solve your problem its just that those people thing bashing people in the skull is a valid solution to their problem. not everyone will act this way, and regardless of the specific decision, being angry increases your capacity of objetively analying situations, patterns, puzzles, etc. Provide a source for that info.... experience in life proves quite the contrary. Thats because you rarely find yourself in positions where you are angry and in full power to do something about it, leading to frustration and fury if by "full power" you mean, you have the means to do something illegal or sociopathic like do whatever you want to get your ends, and you feel like you COULD KILL SOMEONE at any given moment, there is no person in the world who doesn't have "full power to do something about any situation to the fullest extent of their ability". however, There are these things called morals and laws (which are threats of punishment) which are designed to make people want to choose some other way of dealing with a situation. the entirety of your posts are logical disconnects and contradictions. You obviously didnt understand it, had nothing to do with what I said. heres an example of a normal everyday situation, you are working on an essay, your pc crashes and you lose half an hour of work, you get pissed, nothing you can do, just redo the work, you will most likely work on a better rhythm for the next hour what I meant is that things that usually get people angry usually involve some sort of variable they cant control, they attack things they associate the problem (this is an example to people who lose it when they are angry, not everyone) my sources are at this moment in portuguese and printed in front of me =/ But that argument is extremely flawed. Why would a reasonable person get angry over something they can't control? There's no point. Either acknowledge that the problem can't be solved, or find a way to fix it, in this case that would be to invent something that makes a computer less likely to or stop crashing at all. I think it's more likely that someone would get angry over something they can control, because not having the answer when you know there is one implies lack of understanding or thought.
most of the human condition is getting angry at things we have no control over. thats where any and all anger comes from. Such as the anger at someone who kills someone you love. Thus sayeth the buddha and Dalai Lamas.
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On March 28 2012 17:10 Spieltor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 17:09 MethodSC wrote:On March 28 2012 16:47 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 16:41 Spieltor wrote:On March 28 2012 16:25 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 15:51 MethodSC wrote:On March 28 2012 15:43 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 15:17 Kich wrote:On March 28 2012 15:10 D10 wrote:
Did you know that when you get angry you actually improve your capacity of objectively analizing your problem.
When angry people do stupid things, (like kill a wife because shes cheating on you) its because in his sick mind he has placed the blame of the problem on the wrong target, and seeks an immediate solution.
Usually people perform better when angry The first sentence here seems to contradict the second and then agree with the third. I don't really follow. What i mean is that problems managing anger doesnt mean it doesnt improve your hability to solve your problem its just that those people thing bashing people in the skull is a valid solution to their problem. not everyone will act this way, and regardless of the specific decision, being angry increases your capacity of objetively analying situations, patterns, puzzles, etc. Provide a source for that info.... experience in life proves quite the contrary. Thats because you rarely find yourself in positions where you are angry and in full power to do something about it, leading to frustration and fury if by "full power" you mean, you have the means to do something illegal or sociopathic like do whatever you want to get your ends, and you feel like you COULD KILL SOMEONE at any given moment, there is no person in the world who doesn't have "full power to do something about any situation to the fullest extent of their ability". however, There are these things called morals and laws (which are threats of punishment) which are designed to make people want to choose some other way of dealing with a situation. the entirety of your posts are logical disconnects and contradictions. You obviously didnt understand it, had nothing to do with what I said. heres an example of a normal everyday situation, you are working on an essay, your pc crashes and you lose half an hour of work, you get pissed, nothing you can do, just redo the work, you will most likely work on a better rhythm for the next hour what I meant is that things that usually get people angry usually involve some sort of variable they cant control, they attack things they associate the problem (this is an example to people who lose it when they are angry, not everyone) my sources are at this moment in portuguese and printed in front of me =/ But that argument is extremely flawed. Why would a reasonable person get angry over something they can't control? There's no point. Either acknowledge that the problem can't be solved, or find a way to fix it, in this case that would be to invent something that makes a computer less likely to or stop crashing at all. I think it's more likely that someone would get angry over something they can control, because not having the answer when you know there is one implies lack of understanding or thought. most of the human condition is getting angry at things we have no control over. thats where any and all anger comes from. Such as the anger at someone who kills someone you love. Thus sayeth the buddha and Dalai Lamas.
Are you assuming that you can only be angry at the person that kills someone you love?
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On March 28 2012 17:16 MethodSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 17:10 Spieltor wrote:On March 28 2012 17:09 MethodSC wrote:On March 28 2012 16:47 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 16:41 Spieltor wrote:On March 28 2012 16:25 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 15:51 MethodSC wrote:On March 28 2012 15:43 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 15:17 Kich wrote:On March 28 2012 15:10 D10 wrote:
Did you know that when you get angry you actually improve your capacity of objectively analizing your problem.
When angry people do stupid things, (like kill a wife because shes cheating on you) its because in his sick mind he has placed the blame of the problem on the wrong target, and seeks an immediate solution.
Usually people perform better when angry The first sentence here seems to contradict the second and then agree with the third. I don't really follow. What i mean is that problems managing anger doesnt mean it doesnt improve your hability to solve your problem its just that those people thing bashing people in the skull is a valid solution to their problem. not everyone will act this way, and regardless of the specific decision, being angry increases your capacity of objetively analying situations, patterns, puzzles, etc. Provide a source for that info.... experience in life proves quite the contrary. Thats because you rarely find yourself in positions where you are angry and in full power to do something about it, leading to frustration and fury if by "full power" you mean, you have the means to do something illegal or sociopathic like do whatever you want to get your ends, and you feel like you COULD KILL SOMEONE at any given moment, there is no person in the world who doesn't have "full power to do something about any situation to the fullest extent of their ability". however, There are these things called morals and laws (which are threats of punishment) which are designed to make people want to choose some other way of dealing with a situation. the entirety of your posts are logical disconnects and contradictions. You obviously didnt understand it, had nothing to do with what I said. heres an example of a normal everyday situation, you are working on an essay, your pc crashes and you lose half an hour of work, you get pissed, nothing you can do, just redo the work, you will most likely work on a better rhythm for the next hour what I meant is that things that usually get people angry usually involve some sort of variable they cant control, they attack things they associate the problem (this is an example to people who lose it when they are angry, not everyone) my sources are at this moment in portuguese and printed in front of me =/ But that argument is extremely flawed. Why would a reasonable person get angry over something they can't control? There's no point. Either acknowledge that the problem can't be solved, or find a way to fix it, in this case that would be to invent something that makes a computer less likely to or stop crashing at all. I think it's more likely that someone would get angry over something they can control, because not having the answer when you know there is one implies lack of understanding or thought. most of the human condition is getting angry at things we have no control over. thats where any and all anger comes from. Such as the anger at someone who kills someone you love. Thus sayeth the buddha and Dalai Lamas. Are you assuming that you can only be angry at the person that kills someone you love?
Im explaining, not assuming, that anger is a reaction towards situations outside our control. Even anger towards self at failing something. if we did something and failed and felt anger about it, we did everything in our control to succeed, yet did not, therefore our phsyics calculations our brain performed must not have been accurate (in the case of sports), or some other part of our intellect or something outside ourselves failed us, in a way that we couldn't overcome at that moment.
All anger is reaction towards situations we dont have control over.
i could immediately prove this with a punch in the face if we were talking face to face. if I were to do it, one of the things you would feel is anger, and I'd be invoking that in you without your ability to control it. provided I didnt tell you about it first. If I told you about it, it would be under your control to avoid it, and you'd also understand why it was happening, so you could take it and try not to get angry to disprove it.
but next time you argue with someone, tell them that its no good to get angry at things beyond our control, then blindly punch them. 100% anger rate.
People are predictable.
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I have never really got angry, I imagine one day I will snap and just smash some heads. Not to say I let people mess me around and take the piss. Soon I will more than likely turn into Dexter.
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On March 28 2012 17:21 Spieltor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 17:16 MethodSC wrote:On March 28 2012 17:10 Spieltor wrote:On March 28 2012 17:09 MethodSC wrote:On March 28 2012 16:47 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 16:41 Spieltor wrote:On March 28 2012 16:25 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 15:51 MethodSC wrote:On March 28 2012 15:43 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 15:17 Kich wrote:
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The first sentence here seems to contradict the second and then agree with the third. I don't really follow. What i mean is that problems managing anger doesnt mean it doesnt improve your hability to solve your problem its just that those people thing bashing people in the skull is a valid solution to their problem. not everyone will act this way, and regardless of the specific decision, being angry increases your capacity of objetively analying situations, patterns, puzzles, etc. Provide a source for that info.... experience in life proves quite the contrary. Thats because you rarely find yourself in positions where you are angry and in full power to do something about it, leading to frustration and fury if by "full power" you mean, you have the means to do something illegal or sociopathic like do whatever you want to get your ends, and you feel like you COULD KILL SOMEONE at any given moment, there is no person in the world who doesn't have "full power to do something about any situation to the fullest extent of their ability". however, There are these things called morals and laws (which are threats of punishment) which are designed to make people want to choose some other way of dealing with a situation. the entirety of your posts are logical disconnects and contradictions. You obviously didnt understand it, had nothing to do with what I said. heres an example of a normal everyday situation, you are working on an essay, your pc crashes and you lose half an hour of work, you get pissed, nothing you can do, just redo the work, you will most likely work on a better rhythm for the next hour what I meant is that things that usually get people angry usually involve some sort of variable they cant control, they attack things they associate the problem (this is an example to people who lose it when they are angry, not everyone) my sources are at this moment in portuguese and printed in front of me =/ But that argument is extremely flawed. Why would a reasonable person get angry over something they can't control? There's no point. Either acknowledge that the problem can't be solved, or find a way to fix it, in this case that would be to invent something that makes a computer less likely to or stop crashing at all. I think it's more likely that someone would get angry over something they can control, because not having the answer when you know there is one implies lack of understanding or thought. most of the human condition is getting angry at things we have no control over. thats where any and all anger comes from. Such as the anger at someone who kills someone you love. Thus sayeth the buddha and Dalai Lamas. Are you assuming that you can only be angry at the person that kills someone you love? Im explaining, not assuming, that anger is a reaction towards situations outside our control. Even anger towards self at failing something. if we did something and failed and felt anger about it, we did everything in our control to succeed, yet did not, therefore our phsyics calculations our brain performed must not have been accurate (in the case of sports), or some other part of our intellect or something outside ourselves failed us, in a way that we couldn't overcome at that moment. All anger is reaction towards situations we dont have control over. i could immediately prove this with a punch in the face if we were talking face to face. if I were to do it, one of the things you would feel is anger, and I'd be invoking that in you without your ability to control it. provided I didnt tell you about it first. If I told you about it, it would be under your control to avoid it, and you'd also understand why it was happening, so you could take it and try not to get angry to disprove it. but next time you argue with someone, tell them that its no good to get angry at things beyond our control, then blindly punch them. 100% anger rate. People are predictable.
See, but you assume that the only answer is anger. I'm simply proposing that acknowledgement is another answer. You're basically saying that everyone is only in denial therefore they get angry because they don't want to accept the truth. You also assume that the initiation of force initiates force, which is debatable. If you punched me in the face randomly, I'd ask why you did it. You would then suffer the consequences of that action. I'll even go farther. I've had a gun pointed at my face. You would assume first that I would be angry at this person, however you'd be wrong. Try to rationalize the situations, then accept what happened and seek justice. If I saw the person again, I wouldn't feel angry, but rather hope that they learned their lesson or bettered themselves, because the only reason they were in that situation was because of a lack of an answer to whatever problems they had. You said it yourself, people are predictable, just not in the way you think.
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On January 19 2012 11:12 Crakalaka wrote:
I have sex with a lot of other women that aren't HER
edit: I believe in every mans heart, there's a hole where an evil witch(aka the woman that got away) left her scar and some guys never get over it.
I'm one of those.
brofist
jerking off also helps sometimes against mass rage
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On March 28 2012 17:41 MethodSC wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 17:21 Spieltor wrote:On March 28 2012 17:16 MethodSC wrote:On March 28 2012 17:10 Spieltor wrote:On March 28 2012 17:09 MethodSC wrote:On March 28 2012 16:47 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 16:41 Spieltor wrote:On March 28 2012 16:25 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 15:51 MethodSC wrote:On March 28 2012 15:43 D10 wrote:
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What i mean is that problems managing anger doesnt mean it doesnt improve your hability to solve your problem
its just that those people thing bashing people in the skull is a valid solution to their problem.
not everyone will act this way, and regardless of the specific decision, being angry increases your capacity of objetively analying situations, patterns, puzzles, etc. Provide a source for that info.... experience in life proves quite the contrary. Thats because you rarely find yourself in positions where you are angry and in full power to do something about it, leading to frustration and fury if by "full power" you mean, you have the means to do something illegal or sociopathic like do whatever you want to get your ends, and you feel like you COULD KILL SOMEONE at any given moment, there is no person in the world who doesn't have "full power to do something about any situation to the fullest extent of their ability". however, There are these things called morals and laws (which are threats of punishment) which are designed to make people want to choose some other way of dealing with a situation. the entirety of your posts are logical disconnects and contradictions. You obviously didnt understand it, had nothing to do with what I said. heres an example of a normal everyday situation, you are working on an essay, your pc crashes and you lose half an hour of work, you get pissed, nothing you can do, just redo the work, you will most likely work on a better rhythm for the next hour what I meant is that things that usually get people angry usually involve some sort of variable they cant control, they attack things they associate the problem (this is an example to people who lose it when they are angry, not everyone) my sources are at this moment in portuguese and printed in front of me =/ But that argument is extremely flawed. Why would a reasonable person get angry over something they can't control? There's no point. Either acknowledge that the problem can't be solved, or find a way to fix it, in this case that would be to invent something that makes a computer less likely to or stop crashing at all. I think it's more likely that someone would get angry over something they can control, because not having the answer when you know there is one implies lack of understanding or thought. most of the human condition is getting angry at things we have no control over. thats where any and all anger comes from. Such as the anger at someone who kills someone you love. Thus sayeth the buddha and Dalai Lamas. Are you assuming that you can only be angry at the person that kills someone you love? Im explaining, not assuming, that anger is a reaction towards situations outside our control. Even anger towards self at failing something. if we did something and failed and felt anger about it, we did everything in our control to succeed, yet did not, therefore our phsyics calculations our brain performed must not have been accurate (in the case of sports), or some other part of our intellect or something outside ourselves failed us, in a way that we couldn't overcome at that moment. All anger is reaction towards situations we dont have control over. i could immediately prove this with a punch in the face if we were talking face to face. if I were to do it, one of the things you would feel is anger, and I'd be invoking that in you without your ability to control it. provided I didnt tell you about it first. If I told you about it, it would be under your control to avoid it, and you'd also understand why it was happening, so you could take it and try not to get angry to disprove it. but next time you argue with someone, tell them that its no good to get angry at things beyond our control, then blindly punch them. 100% anger rate. People are predictable. See, but you assume that the only answer is anger. I'm simply proposing that acknowledgement is another answer. You're basically saying that everyone is only in denial therefore they get angry because they don't want to accept the truth. You also assume that the initiation of force initiates force, which is debatable. If you punched me in the face randomly, I'd ask why you did it. You would then suffer the consequences of that action. I'll even go farther. I've had a gun pointed at my face. You would assume first that I would be angry at this person, however you'd be wrong. Try to rationalize the situations, then accept what happened and seek justice. If I saw the person again, I wouldn't feel angry, but rather hope that they learned their lesson or bettered themselves, because the only reason they were in that situation was because of a lack of an answer to whatever problems they had. You said it yourself, people are predictable, just not in the way you think.
either lying or using the subversive form of anger that is trying to stay "calm" while getting "revenge".
If you punched me in the face randomly, I'd ask why you did it. You would then suffer the consequences of that action
should I assume the consequence is something violent or forceful in nature, such as physical retaliation or legal retaliation (which is state supported physical retaliation), since even depriving someone of their time is doing a form of violence to them? Or should I assume you wrote a statement that you can deny any assumption made of being true no matter what I say because its so vague as to allow you to straw man out?
you were predictable in that as you'd try to deny yourself getting angry with a forewarned punch in the face by controlling yourself, in the previous post where it was predicted you would control it if you had foreknowledge, and here is an entire post saying you never get angry at all, which is essentially the same to an internet discussion about anger as to being in person and getting punched but getting advance warning. Denial of any anger.
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On March 28 2012 18:44 Spieltor wrote:Show nested quote +On March 28 2012 17:41 MethodSC wrote:On March 28 2012 17:21 Spieltor wrote:On March 28 2012 17:16 MethodSC wrote:On March 28 2012 17:10 Spieltor wrote:On March 28 2012 17:09 MethodSC wrote:On March 28 2012 16:47 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 16:41 Spieltor wrote:On March 28 2012 16:25 D10 wrote:On March 28 2012 15:51 MethodSC wrote:
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Provide a source for that info.... experience in life proves quite the contrary. Thats because you rarely find yourself in positions where you are angry and in full power to do something about it, leading to frustration and fury if by "full power" you mean, you have the means to do something illegal or sociopathic like do whatever you want to get your ends, and you feel like you COULD KILL SOMEONE at any given moment, there is no person in the world who doesn't have "full power to do something about any situation to the fullest extent of their ability". however, There are these things called morals and laws (which are threats of punishment) which are designed to make people want to choose some other way of dealing with a situation. the entirety of your posts are logical disconnects and contradictions. You obviously didnt understand it, had nothing to do with what I said. heres an example of a normal everyday situation, you are working on an essay, your pc crashes and you lose half an hour of work, you get pissed, nothing you can do, just redo the work, you will most likely work on a better rhythm for the next hour what I meant is that things that usually get people angry usually involve some sort of variable they cant control, they attack things they associate the problem (this is an example to people who lose it when they are angry, not everyone) my sources are at this moment in portuguese and printed in front of me =/ But that argument is extremely flawed. Why would a reasonable person get angry over something they can't control? There's no point. Either acknowledge that the problem can't be solved, or find a way to fix it, in this case that would be to invent something that makes a computer less likely to or stop crashing at all. I think it's more likely that someone would get angry over something they can control, because not having the answer when you know there is one implies lack of understanding or thought. most of the human condition is getting angry at things we have no control over. thats where any and all anger comes from. Such as the anger at someone who kills someone you love. Thus sayeth the buddha and Dalai Lamas. Are you assuming that you can only be angry at the person that kills someone you love? Im explaining, not assuming, that anger is a reaction towards situations outside our control. Even anger towards self at failing something. if we did something and failed and felt anger about it, we did everything in our control to succeed, yet did not, therefore our phsyics calculations our brain performed must not have been accurate (in the case of sports), or some other part of our intellect or something outside ourselves failed us, in a way that we couldn't overcome at that moment. All anger is reaction towards situations we dont have control over. i could immediately prove this with a punch in the face if we were talking face to face. if I were to do it, one of the things you would feel is anger, and I'd be invoking that in you without your ability to control it. provided I didnt tell you about it first. If I told you about it, it would be under your control to avoid it, and you'd also understand why it was happening, so you could take it and try not to get angry to disprove it. but next time you argue with someone, tell them that its no good to get angry at things beyond our control, then blindly punch them. 100% anger rate. People are predictable. See, but you assume that the only answer is anger. I'm simply proposing that acknowledgement is another answer. You're basically saying that everyone is only in denial therefore they get angry because they don't want to accept the truth. You also assume that the initiation of force initiates force, which is debatable. If you punched me in the face randomly, I'd ask why you did it. You would then suffer the consequences of that action. I'll even go farther. I've had a gun pointed at my face. You would assume first that I would be angry at this person, however you'd be wrong. Try to rationalize the situations, then accept what happened and seek justice. If I saw the person again, I wouldn't feel angry, but rather hope that they learned their lesson or bettered themselves, because the only reason they were in that situation was because of a lack of an answer to whatever problems they had. You said it yourself, people are predictable, just not in the way you think. either lying or using the subversive form of anger that is trying to stay "calm" while getting "revenge". Show nested quote + If you punched me in the face randomly, I'd ask why you did it. You would then suffer the consequences of that action should I assume the consequence is something violent or forceful in nature, such as physical retaliation or legal retaliation (which is state supported physical retaliation), since even depriving someone of their time is doing a form of violence to them? Or should I assume you wrote a statement that you can deny any assumption made of being true no matter what I say because its so vague as to allow you to straw man out?
What revenge is there to get? The action has already passed and acceptance has already happened. You're trying so hard here to prove that anger is the only way to react to a situation out of your control that you disregard any other approach and even call it a "lie" or say that I was trying to stay "calm" while seeking "revenge" when it's presented. That's disturbing and sad at the same time.
Should you assume that the consequence is something violent or forceful? No, but the situation presented is incomplete, so there's no way to know what course of action would be taken. Could it be forceful in nature? Sure. That still doesn't explain the other situation that isn't hypothetical.
I conceded your argument on getting punched in the face. That's fine, but I've never taken any course of action to plan or attempt revenge on someone that did actually threaten deadly force onto me. If I had, my life would be a lot different and I wouldn't be as happy. At the end of the day, I'm still alive here and that person deserves to make up for his mistake. I didn't know and still don't know his reasoning for his actions, but I'm not the person that should judge others in such a harsh way.
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On March 28 2012 17:33 TRnoSki wrote:
I have never really got angry, I imagine one day I will snap and just smash some heads. Not to say I let people mess me around and take the piss. Soon I will more than likely turn into Dexter.
You're lying to yourself, everyone get's angry. You may not notice it, but you get angry. Try asking your mother, it may not be full out rage, throwing shit after people, but you still get angry.
Also i do full out rage, smash shit up then get drunk. It works for me.
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Hopefully, I don't need to vent it, but can take a rational approach to it. At worst, I will punch a wall, but hopefully it doesn't come to that.
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What's this bs about only being angry about things you can't control. People can get angry for just about everything.
You're a man, you've got anger inside.
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When I get REALLY angry/frustrated I launch my fist knuckles down at the table.
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I used to just smash on the ground whatever I had lying around or to punch the table. I remember throwing a banana at a wall, I could never clean it all up ^^
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On March 29 2012 13:36 ulan-bat wrote:
I used to just smash on the ground whatever I had lying around or to punch the table. I remember throwing a banana at a wall, I could never clean it all up ^^
bwaha that's funny. I remember fisting my own frontwindow 5 years ago. anger wasn't the main reason, it was a feeble window and I had bad luck I suppose.
Massive scar on my hand, major blood loss, expensive hospital trip and expensive window replacement. :S
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I normally just scream >.>
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I go into the freezer at work where I know no one can hear me and I kick boxes and shout swearwords.
Fucking cardboard mother fuckers. FUCK YOU BOX!
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sit in the corner of my room and cry for hours
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1. Beer
2. Play D2
3. Cuss
4. punch the air
5. do the crabby dance
Any will do depends on what I can do
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