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On December 10 2011 14:35 Legatus Lanius wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 14:29 Manit0u wrote:On December 10 2011 13:27 phant wrote:
Hey, the British made the units!
The British also started calling football soccer as well.
Americans get all the blame! You can tell me all the things you want but I'll never believe that the term 'soccer' was invented in UK. I don't think there's a more popular sport in UK (in the world (with proper Clarkson pause)) than football. Also, Americans diverted from Imperial units quite a while ago... The rules of association football were codified in the United Kingdom by the Football Association in 1863, and the name association football was coined to distinguish the game from the other versions of football played at the time, such as rugby football. The word soccer is a colloquial abbreviation of association (from assoc.) and first appeared in the 1880s. An early usage found in an English 1892 periodical.[1]
All theory aside. When was the last time you've heard rugby player refer to the game he's playing as "football"?
Edit: Or anyone being confused between rugby and football?
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On December 10 2011 14:39 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 14:35 Legatus Lanius wrote:On December 10 2011 14:29 Manit0u wrote:On December 10 2011 13:27 phant wrote:
Hey, the British made the units!
The British also started calling football soccer as well.
Americans get all the blame! You can tell me all the things you want but I'll never believe that the term 'soccer' was invented in UK. I don't think there's a more popular sport in UK (in the world (with proper Clarkson pause)) than football. Also, Americans diverted from Imperial units quite a while ago... The rules of association football were codified in the United Kingdom by the Football Association in 1863, and the name association football was coined to distinguish the game from the other versions of football played at the time, such as rugby football. The word soccer is a colloquial abbreviation of association (from assoc.) and first appeared in the 1880s. An early usage found in an English 1892 periodical.[1] All theory aside. When was the last time you've heard rugby player refer to the game he's playing as "football"? Edit: Or anyone being confused between rugby and football?
everyone here calls rugby 'football' 
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On December 10 2011 14:29 Manit0u wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 13:27 phant wrote:
Hey, the British made the units!
The British also started calling football soccer as well.
Americans get all the blame! You can tell me all the things you want but I'll never believe that the term 'soccer' was invented in UK. I don't think there's a more popular sport in UK (in the world (with proper Clarkson pause)) than football. Show nested quote +A few FIFA affiliates have recently "normalized" to using "Football", including: - Australia's association football governing body changed its name in 2007 from using "soccer" to "football"
- New Zealand also changed in 2007, saying "the international game is called football."
- Samoa changed from "Samoa Football (Soccer) Federation" to "Football Federation Samoa" in 2009.
US of A, we're waiting for you... Also, Americans diverted from Imperial units quite a while ago...
Well of course the soccer federations would want to be known as football, it doesn't change the fact that a lot of countries don't recognise the term. You ask any Australian what football is, and they'll respond either AFL or rugby (AFL is football though, you can't deny).
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Sometimes I think that we in the US have fully switched over because people do not have a feel for metric quantities. I know ~about how much a pound feels, but I have no idea how much a kilogram feels. Similarly for distances. I can eyeball a couple of inches to feet, but I have no idea how to gauge meters (cm is okay).
Switching over to metric would require people to do match a bit more frequently, but like that's ever a bad thing for people in the US...
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I was raised on standard, unfortunately I use it 
I wish I was raised using metric.
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Why bother making this? You know everybody except for the US uses metric as standard. Pointless OP.
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On December 10 2011 15:07 wei2coolman wrote:I was raised on standard, unfortunately I use it I wish I was raised using metric.
I wish i was raised on base 12 math and was forced to use a sliderule instead of calculator throughout my k-12 education. And now my children must pay...
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I use metric as much as humanly possible with the only exception being miles while driving. The US isn't too accommodating of the metric system on its roadways.
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On December 10 2011 15:16 Weedk wrote:
Why bother making this? You know everybody except for the US uses metric as standard. Pointless OP.
exactly, and the most I've seen come from this thread are slandering america. Who gives a shit, I use both because they are both useful and it just so happens that the only measurements used in the sciences in america are metrics.
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On December 09 2011 13:34 CygNus X-1 wrote:
They all have their place for different things. For instance, in construction Standard is ... well... standard lol. Metric is easier to calculate, I think.
Actually, in construction they sometimes use the Engineer's rule, which basically breaks the foot down into tenths, so like 1.5 feet would be 1 foot 6 inches... only reason I know this is because I do bookwork for a highway construction company, and it makes stuff easier apparently for plans. I would welcome a full on switch to the metric system though... so easy for calculations compared to the standard system and all the awesome conversions
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how is imperial system more practical and convenient? Metric system is superior in every way shape or form
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Extremely biased... Metric IS the standard for a lot of people.
"2. Standard units are more practical and convenient. No one goes to the grocery to buy 400ml drink, instead, they buy it in 12 ounces. No one buys 5 meters of wood, instead, they buy it is 1x1x12, all in feet."
This makes no sense to me, of course we go to buy a 500ml drink, or 2 liters of milk, etc. It sounds stupid and weird to say ounces for most people just as you consider ml/L to be odd.
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On December 10 2011 14:58 Bobble wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 14:29 Manit0u wrote:On December 10 2011 13:27 phant wrote:
Hey, the British made the units!
The British also started calling football soccer as well.
Americans get all the blame! You can tell me all the things you want but I'll never believe that the term 'soccer' was invented in UK. I don't think there's a more popular sport in UK (in the world (with proper Clarkson pause)) than football. A few FIFA affiliates have recently "normalized" to using "Football", including: - Australia's association football governing body changed its name in 2007 from using "soccer" to "football"
- New Zealand also changed in 2007, saying "the international game is called football."
- Samoa changed from "Samoa Football (Soccer) Federation" to "Football Federation Samoa" in 2009.
US of A, we're waiting for you... Also, Americans diverted from Imperial units quite a while ago... Well of course the soccer federations would want to be known as football, it doesn't change the fact that a lot of countries don't recognise the term. You ask any Australian what football is, and they'll respond either AFL or rugby (AFL is football though, you can't deny).
Exactly, the UK is the only major native English speaking country to universally call soccer "football". The non-English speaking world calls it football because they learn British English in school, but America, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand all have their own forms of football (although NZ's is rugby).
As for Metric vs Standard, Metric is used in every US science class I've ever taken. I'm not even sure what the speed of gravity is in imperial/standard units. I think Europeans have some weird assumption that Americans do science in imperial units for some reason.
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I use both. Where is the both option?
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On December 10 2011 15:38 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 14:58 Bobble wrote:On December 10 2011 14:29 Manit0u wrote:On December 10 2011 13:27 phant wrote:
Hey, the British made the units!
The British also started calling football soccer as well.
Americans get all the blame! You can tell me all the things you want but I'll never believe that the term 'soccer' was invented in UK. I don't think there's a more popular sport in UK (in the world (with proper Clarkson pause)) than football. A few FIFA affiliates have recently "normalized" to using "Football", including: - Australia's association football governing body changed its name in 2007 from using "soccer" to "football"
- New Zealand also changed in 2007, saying "the international game is called football."
- Samoa changed from "Samoa Football (Soccer) Federation" to "Football Federation Samoa" in 2009.
US of A, we're waiting for you... Also, Americans diverted from Imperial units quite a while ago... Well of course the soccer federations would want to be known as football, it doesn't change the fact that a lot of countries don't recognise the term. You ask any Australian what football is, and they'll respond either AFL or rugby (AFL is football though, you can't deny). As for Metric vs Standard, Metric is used in every US science class I've ever taken. I'm not even sure what the speed of gravity is in imperial/standard units. I think Europeans have some weird assumption that Americans do science in imperial units for some reason.
American scientists did that before. It didn't go well.
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Standard....i didn't even know American system is called standard.......
Metric all the way. Also, your pros for "standard" are a bit off.
1. What goes more naturally is just a PoV of where you were raised and what your heard more often.
2. We don't have 400ml milk/soda...its mostly 0.5L mark. As for wood, way to make it confusing ..... you buy wood based on V. And thats how you measure it.
Other then americans wanting to stay special, there is no reason to keep using that system whatsoever
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On December 10 2011 15:38 jalstar wrote:
Exactly, the UK is the only major native English speaking country to universally call soccer "football". The non-English speaking world calls it football because they learn British English in school, but America, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand all have their own forms of football (although NZ's is rugby).
At least in Finland the English taught in schools is 95% American English. We call soccer football because this is Europe.
fotboll, fußball, fútbol, le football, etc.
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On December 10 2011 15:38 jalstar wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 14:58 Bobble wrote:On December 10 2011 14:29 Manit0u wrote:On December 10 2011 13:27 phant wrote:
Hey, the British made the units!
The British also started calling football soccer as well.
Americans get all the blame! You can tell me all the things you want but I'll never believe that the term 'soccer' was invented in UK. I don't think there's a more popular sport in UK (in the world (with proper Clarkson pause)) than football. A few FIFA affiliates have recently "normalized" to using "Football", including: - Australia's association football governing body changed its name in 2007 from using "soccer" to "football"
- New Zealand also changed in 2007, saying "the international game is called football."
- Samoa changed from "Samoa Football (Soccer) Federation" to "Football Federation Samoa" in 2009.
US of A, we're waiting for you... Also, Americans diverted from Imperial units quite a while ago... Well of course the soccer federations would want to be known as football, it doesn't change the fact that a lot of countries don't recognise the term. You ask any Australian what football is, and they'll respond either AFL or rugby (AFL is football though, you can't deny). Exactly, the UK is the only major native English speaking country to universally call soccer "football". The non-English speaking world calls it football because they learn British English in school, but America, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand all have their own forms of football (although NZ's is rugby). As for Metric vs Standard, Metric is used in every US science class I've ever taken. I'm not even sure what the speed of gravity is in imperial/standard units. I think Europeans have some weird assumption that Americans do science in imperial units for some reason.
Wrong.
few FIFA affiliates have recently "normalized" to using "Football", including:
Australia's association football governing body changed its name in 2007 from using "soccer" to "football"
New Zealand also changed in 2007, saying "the international game is called football."
Samoa changed from "Samoa Football (Soccer) Federation" to "Football Federation Samoa" in 2009.
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On December 10 2011 16:01 Gotmog wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 15:38 jalstar wrote:On December 10 2011 14:58 Bobble wrote:On December 10 2011 14:29 Manit0u wrote:On December 10 2011 13:27 phant wrote:
Hey, the British made the units!
The British also started calling football soccer as well.
Americans get all the blame! You can tell me all the things you want but I'll never believe that the term 'soccer' was invented in UK. I don't think there's a more popular sport in UK (in the world (with proper Clarkson pause)) than football. A few FIFA affiliates have recently "normalized" to using "Football", including: - Australia's association football governing body changed its name in 2007 from using "soccer" to "football"
- New Zealand also changed in 2007, saying "the international game is called football."
- Samoa changed from "Samoa Football (Soccer) Federation" to "Football Federation Samoa" in 2009.
US of A, we're waiting for you... Also, Americans diverted from Imperial units quite a while ago... Well of course the soccer federations would want to be known as football, it doesn't change the fact that a lot of countries don't recognise the term. You ask any Australian what football is, and they'll respond either AFL or rugby (AFL is football though, you can't deny). Exactly, the UK is the only major native English speaking country to universally call soccer "football". The non-English speaking world calls it football because they learn British English in school, but America, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand all have their own forms of football (although NZ's is rugby). As for Metric vs Standard, Metric is used in every US science class I've ever taken. I'm not even sure what the speed of gravity is in imperial/standard units. I think Europeans have some weird assumption that Americans do science in imperial units for some reason. Wrong. Show nested quote + few FIFA affiliates have recently "normalized" to using "Football", including:
Australia's association football governing body changed its name in 2007 from using "soccer" to "football"
New Zealand also changed in 2007, saying "the international game is called football."
Samoa changed from "Samoa Football (Soccer) Federation" to "Football Federation Samoa" in 2009.
Someone already rebutted this, it's only officially called football. Soccer clubs in the US are often called "FC" for "football club" but that doesn't mean Americans say football.
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Football is called close variations of football in most other European languages. Which means it feels much more natural to use it in English then the variant used in the US and a few other places. It also doesn't make sense to call American Football as Football since the ball touches the foot ~20 times in a game.
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