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Ryps
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Romania2740 Posts
November 03 2011 22:13 GMT
#441
I dont but Ive seen on stream certain liquid players have it on ad block
blackone
Profile Joined November 2010
Germany1314 Posts
November 03 2011 22:13 GMT
#442
I absolutely hate ads, but team liquid is one of the very few sites that I whitelist. I do that because I love this site and Starcraft though, I don't give a shit about ESPORTS.
GloomyBeaR
Profile Joined December 2010
United States77 Posts
November 03 2011 22:16 GMT
#443
I run NoScript and AdBlock, so let me tell you, it's still so hard to stop that elephant from crying. I have the same issue as deconduo, with the superimposed ads. Sorry, little guy! I'm trying!
o_0
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
November 03 2011 22:18 GMT
#444
huh, im not a fan of this ESPORTS commotion. FOR TEAMLIQUID
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
numLoCK
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1416 Posts
November 03 2011 22:18 GMT
#445
I don't adblock TL, cept for the streams.
However, I am awfully upset that I don't get to see the cute lil elephant because of my choice
nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
November 03 2011 22:22 GMT
#446
That's sort of the same for headphones ( a gaming company vs an audio company ) the latter has better soundstage though... instead of the motherboards thing... or like people who buy bulldozer instead of SB even though the former isn't as good, draws more power, and costs more than SB in most cases...
Year 2500 Greater Israel ( Bahrain, Cyprus, Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Kuwait, Lebanon, Oman, Gaza Strip, West Bank, Qatar, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Turkey, United Arab Emirates, Yemen )
Mstring
Profile Joined September 2011
Australia510 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-11-03 22:24:01
November 03 2011 22:22 GMT
#447
On November 04 2011 07:12 Fyodor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 04 2011 07:01 Mstring wrote:
On November 04 2011 06:43 Falling wrote:
On November 04 2011 06:32 Mstring wrote:
On November 04 2011 06:28 Charger wrote:
On November 04 2011 06:26 Mstring wrote:
On November 04 2011 06:03 bonifaceviii wrote:
On November 04 2011 05:58 Mstring wrote:
For an individual to support TL, money must somehow go from them to TL. If you aren't buying things that have been advertised then you aren't supporting TL, you are expecting those companies who are advertising to support TL.

Of course it's reasonable that not everyone will buy things from ads; the impression is the purchase of a "potential" sale, however, just read through this thread and count the number of people who say they simply ignore the ads. By ignoring ads there is no "potential" sale.

It's not quite so cut and dried, but even assuming that what you're saying is true what's the harm in enabling TL to fleece these idiotic affiliate companies into paying them per worthless impression?


While I don't agree with the idea behind ads, I don't think it's right to spite them by forcing them to pay for nothing.

On November 04 2011 06:06 Charger wrote:
On November 04 2011 05:58 Mstring wrote:
On November 04 2011 05:49 Charger wrote:
On November 04 2011 05:43 Mstring wrote:
[quote]

I didn't ask how much TL had been paid as a result of that user, but rather, how much money has been transfered from the user to TL by whatever means.

Consider the ideal money flow: User sees ad. User buys item. Business makes a profit and gives a cut to TL for the marketing. A business wouldn't pay for ads knowing they will never give a return.

Let's look at the money flow that people seem to be advocating in this thread: User ignores ad. User doesn't buy item. Business makes no profit but pays TL anyway.

Do you see a problem here?


No, do you see a problem here? This whole thread is about supporting TL. Try to stay with me here:

No Ad Block - Ad shows up, ad has potential to be clicked, ad has potential to sell user ad's product, TL gets money regardless, TL can continue to operate and pay for server costs, upgrades, etc




For an individual to support TL, money must somehow go from them to TL. If you aren't buying things that have been advertised then you aren't supporting TL, you are expecting those companies who are advertising to support TL.

Of course it's reasonable that not everyone will buy things from ads; the impression is the purchase of a "potential" sale, however, just read through this thread and count the number of people who say they simply ignore the ads. By ignoring ads there is no "potential" sale.

On November 04 2011 05:49 Klonere wrote:
On November 04 2011 05:43 Mstring wrote:
[quote]

I didn't ask how much TL had been paid as a result of that user, but rather, how much money has been transfered from the user to TL by whatever means.

Consider the ideal money flow: User sees ad. User buys item. Business makes a profit and gives a cut to TL for the marketing. A business wouldn't pay for ads knowing they will never give a return.

Let's look at the money flow that people seem to be advocating in this thread: User ignores ad. User doesn't buy item. Business makes no profit but pays TL anyway.

Do you see a problem here?



shhh


you just revealed a glaring flaw in the financial model of enormous amounts of websites


Hehehe oops.


I'm convinced now more than ever that you have no idea how marketing and advertising, especially online, work. No clue - at all. If you actually really fail to see how even an ad showing up is beneficial to the company paying for the ad you need to go to google and read up some and then come back.


As an example, I don't drink coke (or other similar drinks). Explain to me the benefit Coca-cola receives from me viewing an ad.


I am not going to copy/paste articles on what online marketing and advertising is, go to google and read up on a subject you don't know enough about.


So you can't explain the benefit? Got it.


I don't get why you're being so difficult about this. It's not like this is a particularly new concept, whether on internet , tv or even radio. If the concept doesn't work that ads that people hear, but don't necessarily purchase, then why are we still doing it for the last 90 years. (1920 was the first radio ad.)

Actually with print media, it's probably closer to 200 years if not earlier.


The internet has changed things radically. If I want to buy a new motherboard for example, even though I might have seen asus ads 1000 times, I'm still going to research the hell out of any purchase before making it and choose the product based on actual performance, not brand recognition. 200 years ago, you couldn't possibly find objective reviews of every boot maker and then there's the logistical problems.

The coke example was used because it's a product I'll never buy no matter how many times I see it. Same for those online dating things. I know I'm never going to use it, so what reason do I have for allowing money to change hands for my seeing it given I have the choice to stop it? There is no "potential" sale here. By using adblock I am saying "do whatever you want with your marketing, but I'm having no part in it". There are other ways for a website to make money from me. I feel really good about giving money directly to services I enjoy. I don't feel good allowing a business to pay for an ad impression that will guarantee them no return.

Not everyone is as concious of their cashflow as I am, or researches every purchase as much as I do. They can keep participating in the marketing system. I don't like it but that's life for ya.

Gaining expertise and research in everything you buy is not necessarily rational. A lot of people can make more money doing something productive and can absorb the cost of failed purchases if they arise. Either that or some people may dislike this type of research to the point where there is more utility in accepting the risk of a failed purchase.

There's also the possibility that research in products might not necessarily decrease the risk of failed purchases. Like the studies done where it shows that job interviews are spectacularly unreliable when it comes to them being a tool to identify successful hires.


Sure, and those people can go ahead and participate in the marketing system and end up consuming more than necessary. I however enjoy gaining expertise and researching everything I buy.
Geo424
Profile Joined September 2011
United Kingdom22 Posts
November 03 2011 22:26 GMT
#448
The issue is with every website I visit that once I disable (noscript in my case) my ad blocker I open myself up to lots of nasty little tracking cookies that I don't want on my machine. I don't believe team liquid has a premium no ads service at this point in time (correct me if I'm wrong) but I'd gladly pay team liquid so that all of the revenue goes to them and I don't have to deal with terribad advertising.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
November 03 2011 22:31 GMT
#449
On November 04 2011 06:10 tofucake wrote:
I block ads with my hosts file so I help TL by editing Liquipedia!

If you block ads you should help out by contributing, and LP is the easiest way to do that.

Contribute now.

I'll consider it if a propaganda poster to this effect appears in the funny pictures thread.
twitch.tv/cratonz
darunia
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States139 Posts
November 03 2011 22:34 GMT
#450
I love when ads have a lot of transparency and you can see the "Don't hurt esports" through it.
If it sounds good, it is good.
professorjoak
Profile Joined July 2008
318 Posts
November 03 2011 22:35 GMT
#451
I don't Adblock TL, but I do run flashblock. So half the time I get a (nonflash) ad and half the time I get a sad elephant. I call it Schrodinger's Elephant.
"The different branches of Arithmetic -- Ambition, Distraction, Uglification, and Derision." --Lewis Carroll
curlfry
Profile Joined January 2011
Australia103 Posts
November 03 2011 22:39 GMT
#452
Taught my self how to un-block, and now i see no crying elephants.
the French are effectively gypsies with a steady income
Souljah
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States423 Posts
November 03 2011 22:42 GMT
#453
call me sick and twisted.. but watching baby elephants in blue bandana's cry their little hearts out brings me unimaginable joy.

¬¬
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
November 03 2011 22:45 GMT
#454
I adblock everything, but I have it disabled only for TL.
|BW>Everything|Add me on star2 KR server TheMuTaL.675 for practice games :)|NEX clan| https://www.dotabuff.com/players/183104694
NasKe_
Profile Joined October 2010
Brazil570 Posts
November 03 2011 22:45 GMT
#455
I turned off as soon as i saw the banner
KDot2
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States1213 Posts
November 03 2011 22:46 GMT
#456
I just disabled it for TL !
Gheist
Profile Joined October 2009
United States30 Posts
November 03 2011 22:46 GMT
#457
I ad blocked for stream commercials but that damned TL mascot got me to reconsider.
tree.hugger
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
November 03 2011 22:48 GMT
#458
My god, what the hell happened in the middle of this thread?
ModeratorEffOrt, Snow, GuMiho, and Team Liquid
where_
Profile Joined July 2011
Australia53 Posts
November 03 2011 22:51 GMT
#459
Finally, I'm not blocking ads and I don't have to be told that I'm hurting esports. I'd been trying to get it to work for a while, to no avail. Thanks decaf! :D
Project Psycho
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom329 Posts
November 03 2011 22:54 GMT
#460
Sad Sad people who use adblock imo, why on earth would you try to hurt the very thing your trying see? absolute bums.
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