EPTI could never do that to a child myself, but I was an insolent little fuckhead (which is the technical term, so I'm not being vulgar), and I can honestly say it helped me, but I did serious shit. I dunno. This makes me super uncomfortable.
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Sleight
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I could never do that to a child myself, but I was an insolent little fuckhead (which is the technical term, so I'm not being vulgar), and I can honestly say it helped me, but I did serious shit. I dunno. This makes me super uncomfortable. | ||
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:13 CapnAmerica wrote: I agree. I was raised with corporal punishment and it's absolutely fine to smack a kid (in a non-damaging way) to get a point across that words cannot. This, though, was stupid vengeance and absolutely disgusting. It's child abuse. He's telling his daughter that she doesn't deserve to live in that house, how bad she is, and after he gets mad and talks all that shit to her he leaves and comes back saying he didn't get his beating in yet. Jesus Christ. That's not parenting, that's a little man with anger issues taking them out on someone who has to depend upon him. Disgusting. There's a difference between punishment and taking out your anger on a young girl. Anybody who knows how to parent knows that when you interact with people (let alone your own children) you should act out of fairness, not abusing others for your own iniquities. What? Why do you think it is fine? What point can you get across that words cannot? http://www.cmaj.ca/content/161/7/805.long Seems to indicate it does far more harm then good. "Among the respondents without a history of physical or sexual abuse during childhood, those who reported being slapped or spanked "often" or "sometimes" had significantly higher lifetime rates of anxiety disorders (adjusted odds ratio [OR] 1.43, 95% confidence interval [CI] 1.04-1.96), alcohol abuse or dependence (adjusted OR 2.02, 95% CI 1.27-3.21) and one or more externalizing problems (adjusted OR 2.08, 95% CI 1.36-3.16), compared with those who reported "never" being slapped or spanked. There was also an association between a history of slapping or spanking and major depression, but it was not statistically significant (adjusted OR 1.64, 95% CI 0.96-2.80)." | ||
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jester-
Canada547 Posts
But I will forgo the warning and just say that really fucken made me rage. With all of the attention that this is getting, hopefully he gets his. Shame that he's probably got a giant nestegg saved up for retirement already so getting canned won't really mean anything. | ||
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1Eris1
United States5797 Posts
I'm not saying parents can't discipline their children, but bending them over a bed and whacking them repeatedly for 5 straight minutes? No. | ||
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Logrus
United States228 Posts
finally said to myself "uhhh I guess I'm gunna watch this now" clicked 2 min into the video, saw him hit her two times, ...her wails of agony... oh god, you can hear how much it rends her soul trying to understand why... I almost started crying and had to turn it off. I literally watched about 3 seconds total, you guys who make it 3 minutes are stone | ||
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SecondChance
Australia603 Posts
That's fucking ridiculous. How much of a power trip do the parents want to go on? "Now....I will leave you alone". Orly? It's the wrong reaction, but if that was me I would love nothing more than to beat that guy into submission. | ||
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Strategos
Canada132 Posts
oh man redneck americans from the south. epic | ||
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lIlIlIlIlIlI
Korea (South)3851 Posts
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eXigent.
Canada2419 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:13 GhostFall wrote: Yeah the actual punishment doesn't seem bad at all to me. He whipped her with a belt below the waist. I'd be worried if he started hitting her face or something, but below the waist is just pain for punishment. I don't see abuse, I just see strict parenting. I think it's stupid so many people see this as abuse. More kids need this type of punishment nowadays. The part where he got angry tho, is the part that is questionable. You have absolutely no fucking clue what you are talking about. Just reading your post makes my fucking head hurt. Take a minute and think to yourself, would it feel perfectly normal for me to whip my child 20+ times in a row, while mentally abusing her at the same time, threatening to whip her in the face? Is that something you could see yourself doing nonchalantly? Seriously grow the fuck up. On November 02 2011 11:18 randomKo_Orean wrote: Gonna x2 agree with this. Corporal punishment is fine. I rather belt my kids and have them not stealing in the future or doing stupid things that are clearly wrong than sending to their room and being an irresponsible parent. You would rather belt your kids than take the time to actually raise them right from birth so that they never run into situations leading to said punishment? I know plenty of kids that were raised without any form of physical punishment, ahd grew up being very good kids. I also know kids that were beaten with a belt as they grew up and have NEVER fucking changed their outlook on life and continue to do negative things WHILE hating their parents fucking guts. Such a dumb statement to make imo | ||
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BlitchizSC2
United States306 Posts
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KhAmun
United States1005 Posts
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SilverLeagueElite
United States626 Posts
Don't know when legality crosses over into child abuse. From my own experience, Asian parents dole out discipline(beatings) as harsh if not harsher than the video and would be considered child abuse by western standards. I've personally received much worse. Poor immigrant single mother with no English vs a kid who threw rocks into windows and passing cars but was finally caught shoplifting by the police. My mom handed me a beat down. I guess it's just a cultural difference between east and west. Regarding the video, I don't think the parents are mentally stable. The simplest solution would be to take away her internet. | ||
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Sleight
2471 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:17 InvalidID wrote: What? Why do you think it is fine? What point can you get across that words cannot? http://www.cmaj.ca/content/161/7/805.long Seems to indicate it does far more harm then good. "Among the respondents without a history of physical or sexual abuse during childhood, those who reported being slapped or spanked "often" or "sometimes" had significantly higher lifetime rates of anxiety disorders (adjusted odds ratio [OR] 1.43, 95% confidence interval [CI] 1.04-1.96), alcohol abuse or dependence (adjusted OR 2.02, 95% CI 1.27-3.21) and one or more externalizing problems (adjusted OR 2.08, 95% CI 1.36-3.16), compared with those who reported "never" being slapped or spanked. There was also an association between a history of slapping or spanking and major depression, but it was not statistically significant (adjusted OR 1.64, 95% CI 0.96-2.80)." This is based on logical fallacy. It implies causation when actually, it is NOT that people who are beaten are more likely to develop anxiety disorders, etc ... BECAUSE of the punishment. It IS that, in families and socioeconomic situations where corporal punishment is being used, the circumstances are more likely to result in anxiety disorders, etc... Corporal punishment is exponentially higher in the Bible belt and in poor socioeconomic states, which are both associated with situations more conducive to the study's findings than the direct punishments. Your argument misses the point entirely. | ||
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Blardy
United States290 Posts
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:19 SilverLeagueElite wrote: Don't know when legality crosses over into child abuse. From my own experience, Asian parents dole out discipline(beatings) as harsh if not harsher than the video and would be considered child abuse by western standards. I've personally received much worse. Poor immigrant single mother with no English vs a kid who threw rocks into windows and passing cars but was finally caught shoplifting by the police. My mom handed me a beat down. I guess it's just a cultural difference between east and west. Regarding the video, I don't think the parents are mentally stable. The simplest solution would be to take away her internet. Jesus christ, I hope you understand that cultural differences(whether between Western vs Asian, Western vs Rural Western) do not justify domestic violence of any sort. | ||
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Mephiztopheles1
1124 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:19 HornSnHaloS wrote: Good God this is fucking disgusting... What? The thread with all the little rambos agreeing that physical punishment on any human being is completely fine and does not speak volumes of the complete stupidity of mankind? I agree. Or the video? I also agree. | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:36 darkscream wrote: Some people like beating their kids. If only there were more people who beat those kinds of people.. What's unfortunate is that these things tend to be cyclical -- I'd be willing to bet that the judge was also beat as a child, in a similar fashion. I'm not trying to take the blame off of him, but put simply, the "more people who beat those kinds of people" have already come and gone, and have as much to do with the cycle as the abusers themselves. Hopefully this young lady is able to break the cycle in her family. | ||
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:17 InvalidID wrote: What? Why do you think it is fine? What point can you get across that words cannot? http://www.cmaj.ca/content/161/7/805.long Seems to indicate it does far more harm then good. "Among the respondents without a history of physical or sexual abuse during childhood, those who reported being slapped or spanked "often" or "sometimes" had significantly higher lifetime rates of anxiety disorders (adjusted odds ratio [OR] 1.43, 95% confidence interval [CI] 1.04-1.96), alcohol abuse or dependence (adjusted OR 2.02, 95% CI 1.27-3.21) and one or more externalizing problems (adjusted OR 2.08, 95% CI 1.36-3.16), compared with those who reported "never" being slapped or spanked. There was also an association between a history of slapping or spanking and major depression, but it was not statistically significant (adjusted OR 1.64, 95% CI 0.96-2.80)." I would say that's because those who agree with corporal punishment and have instances where they learned something from it are few because most people don't understand the idea of violence as a tool that has a correct and an incorrect way of being wielded. Essentially Corporal punishment does not a bad parent make, but a bad parent will likely resolve to use corporal punishment more often. It should never be removed from the "box" though as a potential punishment. | ||
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GnarlyArbitrage
575 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:13 GhostFall wrote: Yeah the actual punishment doesn't seem bad at all to me. He whipped her with a belt below the waist. I'd be worried if he started hitting her face or something, but below the waist is just pain for punishment. I don't see abuse, I just see strict parenting. I think it's stupid so many people see this as abuse. More kids need this type of punishment nowadays. The part where he got angry tho, is the part that is questionable. You've gotta be a troll, or don't know what it's like to be loved. Strict parenting? How is taking your anger out on your child strict parenting? How bad is it to use the internet? Does it literally deserve being physically and verbally abused like that? Do you understand how this is going to affect her? SHIT, the world DEPENDS on the internet, and she's probably going to be afraid for the rest of her life to use it. He did hit her above the waist, and even threatened to beat her in the face if you didn't hear that. "I'll beat your fucking face with a closed fist!!!" Seriously, how the fuck is that okay? I can't love my dad because he used to beat the crap out of me. I can forgive him, but I don't care if he dies. In fact, I used to wish he would die. Every night, I would pray for him to be stabbed at the prison he worked at. Think that's okay for a child to do every night? Think it's natural and healthy? The fact that she posted this in such a fashion tells me she probably fantasized about killing her parents time and time again, probably every night when she was trying to sleep, but couldn't. | ||
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Paperplane
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