EPTJudge beats daughter for using the internet - Page 42
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Yosho
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DNB
Finland995 Posts
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Pharax
Canada62 Posts
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papaz
Sweden4149 Posts
Business as usual at work or is there a follow up on this story? The dudes in prison must love that he is into spanking. Justice would be him being locked up in a cell with guys spanking him and putting it on youtube. | ||
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dakalro
Romania525 Posts
On the other hand I would never have the heart to hit my children but I don't exactly see the capital punishment worthy crime here. A belt won't leave injuries and psychologically it's not worse than an argument/lecture. | ||
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Roeder
Denmark735 Posts
On November 02 2011 19:01 ProLagger wrote: There has to be a reason why the father is doing this. The kid is not always right, I mean. I am not saying that she is wrong about this but, the parents should say their own side too. Maybe they want what's best for the child. I don't know. Probably I am going neutral on this one. Incorrect. Beating a young girl with a belt is never right. You are wrong. | ||
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taintmachine
United States431 Posts
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BeMannerDuPenner
Germany5638 Posts
On November 02 2011 22:44 dakalro wrote: She pirated, got caught and punished. Boohoo if it looks violent, nothing actually bad happens. Kids nowadays, so coddled and many actually deserve a good spanking like that. On the other hand I would never have the heart to hit my children but I don't exactly see the capital punishment worthy crime here. A belt won't leave injuries and psychologically it's not worse than an argument/lecture. wait what? you cant be freakin serious | ||
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crydee
92 Posts
On November 02 2011 22:44 dakalro wrote: She pirated, got caught and punished. Boohoo if it looks violent, nothing actually bad happens. Kids nowadays, so coddled and many actually deserve a good spanking like that. On the other hand I would never have the heart to hit my children but I don't exactly see the capital punishment worthy crime here. A belt won't leave injuries and psychologically it's not worse than an argument/lecture. The verbal abuse and threats are what is really scary there. Add in his ignorance that he doesn't like computers and didn't even want one in the house it's way over the line. Physically, it was also over the line. She is sitting in the bed and he's just full strength whipping her while begging him to stop. After the first round he comes back in "I never got to get my lick in" - Like he was enjoying this "Beat you into submission" ect. ect. guy should be removed from office/prosecuted with something | ||
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meadbert
United States681 Posts
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creepcolony
Germany362 Posts
On November 02 2011 22:44 dakalro wrote: She pirated, got caught and punished. Boohoo if it looks violent, nothing actually bad happens. Kids nowadays, so coddled and many actually deserve a good spanking like that. On the other hand I would never have the heart to hit my children but I don't exactly see the capital punishment worthy crime here. A belt won't leave injuries and psychologically it's not worse than an argument/lecture. This is the comedy gold channel. It amazes me beyond believe how people can come up with shit like this.. | ||
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Zaragon
Sweden235 Posts
You can’t have much of a brain in your head if the best way you can think of to reprimand your child is to program them with physical pain. My grandmother beat my father when he wasn’t doing what he was supposed to. As a result he constructed a social façade over his entire life, hiding Asperger’s syndrome and manic depression until he committed suicide in early July this year. Would things have turned out differently without corporeal punishment? Maybe not. But there would have been a chance of the underlying issues coming out in his childhood, which would have changed everything. Instead he just had to find a way to cope, to avoid being punished, forget whatever caused problems in the first place. Maybe people in favor of beating children get confused because of the fact that it is possible for corporeal punishment to be good for a person, depending completely on their personality and whether they can use pain as a cathartic experience that actually takes the edge off shame (though a dangerous one, since it’s the same sort of release people seek by cutting themselves)—but it is NOT possible to know that about another person, least of all a child. How is it in any way worth the risk? When talking to the child and/or targeting their specific behavior is much more likely to work in any case, and less likely to cause them to rebel just out of revenge or spite? To be honest, if I had been beaten as a child, there is a period when I was 16-17 years old when I would have snapped and taken revenge. I’m not 100% sure I would have killed someone, but pretty close—if not, maimed (cutting off the hand that had done the beating, I believe) or hospitalized at the very least. And earlier than that, at 14 I think, there is a point where I was very close to pulling a knife on a bully (thinking back, what a poor kid he was, I don’t think he’ll ever have much meaning to his life) and if I had been beaten by a parent up until that point, the knife would have left the sheath for sure. What would have happened after that, I couldn’t say. And don’t bother saying I couldn’t know that things would have turned out that way, because I know myself extremely well, and have done for many years. If anything, I’m underestimating how badly I would have turned out. And for the specific case of this judge and his daughter, what is this ridicilous idea about how she must have been out of control and deserved it? The girl put up a camera to record being abused, and you don’t see anything wrong with that picture? Sounds more likely she was pirating because she didn’t get to play games or watch movies any other way. And if that wasn’t the case, take her computer away, or put it in a common area in the house, turn off the internet connection when it’s not needed and lock up the router. There are hundreds of ways of stopping that kind of behavior, and all of them are better than a beating, particularly when the girl has cerebral palsy and is incapable of changing her behavior on her own. The whole thing is so close to the senseless childhood my father had, it almost made me vomit. It’s treating children like Pavlov’s dogs rather than really teaching them right from wrong. | ||
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couches
618 Posts
On November 02 2011 22:06 SySLeif wrote: My dad had to beat me coming up when I was a kid and I'm glad he did. I needed it. I was a horrible kid and it helped me wake up hah. I got beat as a kid too. It didn't do anything effective as far as disciplining goes. Why? Because all it really did was make me more careful about keeping what I was doing hidden and out of sight from him. I wasn't allowed to hang out with certain people? So I lied and had two close friends cover for me. I wasn't allowed metal albums? I threw away all the cd cases, sleeves and kept the CDs in a small wallet that was hidden. Wish there was such a thing as CD burners back in like 93 because I woulda just copied my friends albums and written like "the beatles" or "eric clapton" on them instead. (sucks I threw away lots of classic stuff that I'd like to have back nowadays) Wasn't allowed to bring girls home? It's ok we played with each other in school bathrooms. The only thing that I really had to abide by was curfew because there was no way around that. I didn't learn much from my parents because they didn't try to educate me about why things were wrong or right. It was "because we said so and because you're going to get beat otherwise." I almost lived in a state of fear, but not really. However, I can see somebody weak willed living in a state of perpetual fear and contempt for their parents if they get beat a lot. And that's a shitty way to raise a kid. | ||
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Hertzy
Finland355 Posts
On November 02 2011 22:44 dakalro wrote: She pirated, got caught and punished. Boohoo if it looks violent, nothing actually bad happens. Kids nowadays, so coddled and many actually deserve a good spanking like that. On the other hand I would never have the heart to hit my children but I don't exactly see the capital punishment worthy crime here. A belt won't leave injuries and psychologically it's not worse than an argument/lecture. Watch the goddamn video. The whole seven and a half minutes of it. Then come back and repost that, especially the part about psychological injuries. | ||
Myles
United States5162 Posts
On November 02 2011 23:00 couches wrote: I got beat as a kid too. It didn't do anything effective as far as disciplining goes. Why? Because all it really did was make me more careful about keeping what I was doing hidden and out of sight from him. I wasn't allowed to hang out with certain people? So I lied and had two close friends cover for me. I wasn't allowed metal albums? I threw away all the cd cases, sleeves and kept the CDs in a small wallet that was hidden. Wish there was such a thing as CD burners back in like 93 because I woulda just copied my friends albums and written like "the beatles" or "eric clapton" on them instead. (sucks I threw away lots of classic stuff that I'd like to have back nowadays) Wasn't allowed to bring girls home? It's ok we played with each other in school bathrooms. The only thing that I really had to abide by was curfew because there was no way around that. I didn't learn much from my parents because they didn't try to educate me about why things were wrong or right. It was "because we said so and because you're going to get beat otherwise." I almost lived in a state of fear, but not really. However, I can see somebody weak willed living in a state of perpetual fear and contempt for their parents if they get beat a lot. And that's a shitty way to raise a kid. That really doesn't have much to do with using spanking as punishment, though. I was rarely spanked, a handful of times max, and I still did the same things you did to avoid other punishment. Using punishment alone, of any kind, as a way to raise proper kids won't work. | ||
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DyEnasTy
United States3714 Posts
On November 02 2011 11:13 GhostFall wrote: Yeah the actual punishment doesn't seem bad at all to me. He whipped her with a belt below the waist. I'd be worried if he started hitting her face or something, but below the waist is just pain for punishment. I don't see abuse, I just see strict parenting. I think it's stupid so many people see this as abuse. More kids need this type of punishment nowadays. The part where he got angry tho, is the part that is questionable. Well I believe spanking is ok, discipline is part of growing up and necessary......but that was too far. Perhaps if she had leaned over the bed to begin with all that could have been avoided. But that doesnt matter, he shouldnt lose his temper that way. | ||
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epicopter
Canada177 Posts
On November 02 2011 23:00 couches wrote: I got beat as a kid too. It didn't do anything effective as far as disciplining goes. Why? Because all it really did was make me more careful about keeping what I was doing hidden and out of sight from him. I wasn't allowed to hang out with certain people? So I lied and had two close friends cover for me. I wasn't allowed metal albums? I threw away all the cd cases, sleeves and kept the CDs in a small wallet that was hidden. Wish there was such a thing as CD burners back in like 93 because I woulda just copied my friends albums and written like "the beatles" or "eric clapton" on them instead. (sucks I threw away lots of classic stuff that I'd like to have back nowadays) Wasn't allowed to bring girls home? It's ok we played with each other in school bathrooms. The only thing that I really had to abide by was curfew because there was no way around that. I didn't learn much from my parents because they didn't try to educate me about why things were wrong or right. It was "because we said so and because you're going to get beat otherwise." I almost lived in a state of fear, but not really. However, I can see somebody weak willed living in a state of perpetual fear and contempt for their parents if they get beat a lot. And that's a shitty way to raise a kid. If my parents beat me I'd hate them forever and never talk to them ever again and beating your children does nothing all it does is make you rebel like you said and hate your parents... I can't believe there are people in this thread that are actually supporting this, It honestly boggles my mind how you people can say that it's ok because he didn't hit her in the face? What the fuck is wrong with you? You people should never be able to have children. | ||
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DreamChaser
1649 Posts
On November 02 2011 10:36 nooboon wrote: Same here  knew the southern states had a bad reputation but this kinda put it into a new lightThats just stupid fucking ignorance right there. Your basing half the country form one video, are you going to say northern people never beat their children? But that doesn't make the video and more better. | ||
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henkel
Netherlands146 Posts
i agree with people that a corrective smack/corporal punishment can be an effective way to discipline ur kid. but this is closer to plain child abuse then punishment. | ||
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Ygz
England370 Posts
A slap on the hand/backside is fine but whipping with a belt, wrong on so many levels. | ||
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