EPTOpinions on ban of shark fin - Page 39
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
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IMSmooth
United States679 Posts
On October 27 2011 13:48 Legatus Lanius wrote: was it really that offensive lol? i wasnt offended. and it makes sense too, considering that most people in china are not white and they are the ones that know the influence of banning shark fins He was talking about policy. Insert anything for "shark" with a demand in any culture. He was saying white people are too stupid to understand how to decrease demand of something. Banning something is indeed not the most effective way. Although i should let the smart asian people figure that out because i lack the genetic predisposition to intelligence. | ||
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Dr_Strange
United States80 Posts
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Suvorov
294 Posts
Tons of animals from Southeast Asia are smuggled into China for 'exotic' dishes in 'exotic' restaurants...many if not most of these animals being endangered. Complete disregard for other living beings. But oh noes, it offends your sensibilities. Please... | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On October 27 2011 13:53 peekn wrote: Wow watched the video posted on the first page, really sad to watch. I really hope that they ban that, just so inhumane and a big waste. This is just an ethical violation and the Chinese traditions don't outweigh those violations. But it's not your soup getting banned though =( but all things in moderation, over fishing is bad On October 27 2011 13:56 Suvorov wrote: Chinese like to boil live fish alive, skin live serpents and harvest fins from live sharks. Sorry if this offends you but it's your fault for being so oblivious to basic animal rights. And yes, this does not excuse the equivalent of what is done to 'western' animals - though any honest chinese has to admit there's no country in the world that can compete with china in terms of animal abuse. Tons of animals from Southeast Asia are smuggled into China for 'exotic' dishes in 'exotic' restaurants...many if not most of these animals being endangered. Complete disregard for other living beings. But oh noes, it offends your sensibilities. Please... Cooking Seafood live is kind of common sense thing, I mean you cook your lobsters alive right? I certainly hope you don't cook them dead. No comment on the serpent thing, never had it, not a fan of it. Sharkfins, are nice to have once in a while but, over fishing is bad yes | ||
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Batssa
United States154 Posts
It seems strange to me that such an overwhelming majority of politicians would actually choose to overlook the related practices that they (unconsciously) promote to ban shark fins. For example, the meat that they eat. It just doesn't make sense, and I would not be surprised if there was a racist bit involved in this. Otherwise, it doesn't quite make sense to me. Save the sharks, yay! | ||
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peekn
United States1152 Posts
On October 27 2011 13:56 Blasterion wrote: But it's not your soup getting banned though =( but all things in moderation, over fishing is bad Yeah it's similar to when you see those videos of dolphins getting poached or something like that. It's not even about the over fishing part of it, it's the part when they cut off just the fin and then throw the fish back into the sea to die a slow painful death. That's the part that really gets to me. | ||
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Shewklad
Sweden482 Posts
On October 27 2011 11:58 theBALLS wrote: Wow, did you just relate sharks fin to SLAVERY and WITCH HUNTING? You sir drive an EXCELLENT point :D I accept the views of everyone here, but some are just seriously plain dumb :/ Nope, I didn't. What makes you think I did? | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On October 27 2011 14:01 peekn wrote: Yeah it's similar to when you see those videos of dolphins getting poached or something like that. It's not even about the over fishing part of it, it's the part when they cut off just the fin and then throw the fish back into the sea to die a slow painful death. That's the part that really gets to me. To be fair, Shark Steak doesn't taste great (I didn't dislike it but not the best fish I've had definitely), I guess the teeth can make into a necklace for 10 bucks to sell in Hawaii, | ||
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
On October 27 2011 13:39 IMSmooth wrote:  fuck man, insert any other race or culture in there for white and people would absolutely trash you to piecesget your racist ass off of team liquid way to put things out of context, bold the whole line the next time. after all, its only been the white people whos supporting shark fin banning, and its the white people that thinks it will save sharks. and apparently white people that thinks that line is racist. its like saying that you'd have to be chinese to not understand the leniency of parenting in the average american household, and i dont. you white people clearly dont understand that the banning of shark fin soup is useless User was temp banned for this post. | ||
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InvalidID
United States1050 Posts
On October 27 2011 14:05 saltywet wrote: way to put things out of context, bold the whole line the next time. after all, its only been the white people whos supporting shark fin banning, and its the white people that thinks it will save sharks. and apparently white people that thinks that line is racist. its like saying that you'd have to be chinese to not understand the leniency of parenting in the average american household, and i dont. you white people clearly dont understand that the banning of shark fin soup is useless What? I am pretty sure you can find plenty of non white people who support the banning of commercial sharking to protect the populations. Heck when I lived in China I distinctly remember having a discussion on it with Chinese people who lived in the dorm with me, when I mentioned the idea of ordering some, and they chided it as being immoral. | ||
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
On October 27 2011 14:05 saltywet wrote: way to put things out of context, bold the whole line the next time. after all, its only been the white people whos supporting shark fin banning, and its the white people that thinks it will save sharks. and apparently white people that thinks that line is racist. its like saying that you'd have to be chinese to not understand the leniency of parenting in the average american household, and i dont. you white people clearly dont understand that the banning of shark fin soup is useless You clearly have no clue if you think banning it won't do anything. Its working pretty well with whaling, so I guess in us "white people" actually have previous examples, facts and evidence to back up our stance that banning it will help lessen the effects. What do you have as proof that bans on shark fins wont do anything to lessen the hunting of sharks? None, only conjecture. | ||
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
On October 27 2011 14:10 InvalidID wrote: What? I am pretty sure you can find plenty of non white people who support the banning of commercial sharking to protect the populations. Heck when I lived in China I distinctly remember having a discussion on it with Chinese people who lived in the dorm with me, when I mentioned the idea of ordering some, and they chided it as being immoral. i can bet you that none of those chinese are doing that because they think they will allow the shark population to grow up | ||
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tokicheese
Canada739 Posts
On October 27 2011 13:56 Blasterion wrote: But it's not your soup getting banned though =( but all things in moderation, over fishing is bad Allow me to finish up my polar bear ear soup... Stop making this Chinese=Victim. There is no connection at all about being a Chinese Dish and it being banned. It's about destroying the biggest eco-system on the planet. The reason people bash China is because you make it about China. Get over it. This is the same as defending wife burning and honor killings in Canada that is practiced in some cultures and claiming it is intolerant to stop the practice due to cultural insensitivity. Your previous remarks about Racism in Canada is interesting. You point to the head tax... In 1885 so clearly this is a current issue facing your people... Driving around Richmond, B.C. I see many all Asian owned strip malls without a single English letter in sight at the entire mall and then people still have a chip on their shoulder from something that happened entirely out of our control over 100 years before we were even a cell. I'm a pure British descendant from immigrants who moved here in the 1800's so my family probably was involved in some racism. Honestly... I don't give a shit at all. I can't do jack shit about what they did. What I can do is be a better person and do what I know is right and treat people the way they deserve to be treated based on who they are as a person not on the skin color that they have. So no your not suffering a cultural genocide in Canada because a single ecologically disastrous dish is being banned with a artificial substitute that doens't involve fucking over the biggest source of food on the planet for a cultural meal. | ||
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sunman1g
United States334 Posts
of course they need to stop it. glad for the ban but unfortunately it is not enough to stop it globally and chinese people are absolutely ruthless when it comes to eat their "delicacies" | ||
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saltywet
Hong Kong1316 Posts
On October 27 2011 14:12 Tektos wrote: You clearly have no clue if you think banning it won't do anything. Its working pretty well with whaling, so I guess in us "white people" actually have previous examples, facts and evidence to back up our stance that banning it will help lessen the effects. What do you have as proof that bans on shark fins wont do anything to lessen the hunting of sharks? None, only conjecture. what about the fact that china, singapore and hong kong simply will never ban shark fin soup and that possibly 99% of chinese people who currently eat shark fin soup will not stop eating it just to save sharks? if the local chinese in canada can't eat it, they can just eat as much as they can the next time they visit china AND THEY WILL | ||
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PaperGarden
10 Posts
When I watched Gordon Ramsay, I can tell he prefers strong tasting food (could be from smoking) and i respect that, wished he would take it in as what it is and appreciate a little more of the techniques and heart put into those dishes. | ||
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Tektos
Australia1321 Posts
On October 27 2011 14:12 saltywet wrote: i can bet you that none of those chinese are doing that because they think they will allow the shark population to grow up I'm genuinely curious, are you just trolling? For what other reason would they specifically find shark fin immoral yet indifference to other animals? Please, provide some examples. | ||
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
On October 27 2011 02:44 IMSmooth wrote: You literally just used Wikipedia and typed in american culture as your point AND source, I am literally in shock to what that is supposed to prove. Also, we do not waste a single part of chicken and we have found a sustainable way to keep that practice without endangering a species. This ban is NOT because it is inhumane. I am starting to get pissed because i made this point freaking 15 pages ago but you people dont bother to read the thread before posting. I'm literally in shock as to how you are literally oblivious to the fact that Americans have a culture. I literally thought that it was so blatantly obvious that I didn't need to spoonfeed you with details when you actually click the link and literally see the long list that awaits you. So let me put it in my own words. I hope I don't need to "sources" for this. Let's start with food since the topic is about food: Hot dogs, burgers, all the fast food chains, Pepsi, turkey (not exclusive to USA but it still is your culture), Rocky Mountain oysters are what I can think of. I'm sure there are a lot more. The main problem with finning is throwing a finless shark back into the ocean. It seems more of an ethics case than overhunting. Still an issue but ethics seems to be the defining arguement. Also a key point, most people dont use shark meat , so 90%+ of the animal is wasted Ya and if you read the OP he literally bolded that part. Maybe being humane wasn't your arguement. But just so you know the topic is literally about Canadian Politicians banning shark's fin. I would guess most people are arguing against Toronto's reasonings so clearly stated in the OP. | ||
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