On October 20 2011 04:21 Archers_bane wrote: I just find it shocking that the Chinese culture and laws have made it so that a dying four year old child in the middle of the street has made the public so desensitized to the situation that they didn't even bother stopping for 5 seconds to investigate the situation.
Well, I don't know if you'd find it as shocking as leaving a woman being raped to death with no one to help them. Sorry, but the OP was clearly biased.
You must also be aware that Chinese netizens has been just as outraged at this. Plus, there is a huge diversity in culture from city to city, province to province in China, so I'd be extremely careful when generalizing Guangzhou's situation with the rest of the country, although the victimization scams are pretty widespread.
Man, it's terrible that the girl will be in a vegetative state...so damn...arghadfpeoawfnasdkvngwpaeof *punch wall* This better change things for the future.
On October 20 2011 04:21 Archers_bane wrote: I just find it shocking that the Chinese culture and laws have made it so that a dying four year old child in the middle of the street has made the public so desensitized to the situation that they didn't even bother stopping for 5 seconds to investigate the situation.
Well, I don't know if you'd find it as shocking as leaving a woman being raped to death with no one to help them. Sorry, but the OP was clearly biased.
You must also be aware that Chinese netizens has been just as outraged at this. Plus, there is a huge diversity in culture from city to city, province to province in China, so I'd be extremely careful when generalizing Guangzhou's situation with the rest of the country, although the victimization scams are pretty widespread.
Man, it's terrible that the girl will be in a vegetative state...so damn...arghadfpeoawfnasdkvngwpaeof *punch wall* This better change things for the future.
On October 20 2011 04:21 Archers_bane wrote: I just find it shocking that the Chinese culture and laws have made it so that a dying four year old child in the middle of the street has made the public so desensitized to the situation that they didn't even bother stopping for 5 seconds to investigate the situation.
Well, I don't know if you'd find it as shocking as leaving a woman being raped to death with no one to help them. Sorry, but the OP was clearly biased.
You must also be aware that Chinese netizens has been just as outraged at this. Plus, there is a huge diversity in culture from city to city, province to province in China, so I'd be extremely careful when generalizing Guangzhou's situation with the rest of the country, although the victimization scams are pretty widespread.
Man, it's terrible that the girl will be in a vegetative state...so damn...arghadfpeoawfnasdkvngwpaeof *punch wall* This better change things for the future.
Yes that incident is also sad and unacceptable, but being this one a dying child just pulls my heart more. I guess growing up I was more sheltered and was surrounded in a community where this stuff doesn't happen. I just cant help that I get frustrated over these type of incidents.
On October 18 2011 09:46 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: Oh God, is there some conspiracy on TL I don't know about that equates to "post every bad thing that happens in China"? The strong majority of threads about something bad happening as a result of people's actions have to do with China. I don't get it :S.
This is a tragedy, but shit like this happens anytime, anywhere. It isn't exclusive to just China.
I know, from experience, there's a fair chance there's going to be some sinophobic posts in this thread like there are in every other one concerning China. Already, there's a bit of a slant in the OP, such as this statement:
This phenomenon of watching idly may seem barbaric to us in the US
as if implying that all Americans are high-class mannered folks and Chinese are evil and barbaric (lol).
No, this phenomenon is not barbaric in the US. I've heard it happen plenty of times and even seen it happen (I've usually gone to the rescue in those several occasions, and in one case I was even indicted as the perpetrator even when the victim vouched for me... it took above-godly tact and argumentation to get out of that pickle), despite the "Good Samaritan" law. People getting beat up, shot, hit by vehicles, you name it. The best I've seen or heard of is something calling an ambulance and then going along their way, by strangers that is (obviously a family member or good friend is going to be of some serious assistance).
Hell what am I saying? Just a couple months ago, a relative was at a gas station in the evening, got assaulted, tried to fight back and was shot a few times (and the thugs left), and people still came to the gas station and didn't do shit, the people/employees inside the store didn't do shit. She had to crawl her way into there and basically show them her condition and to call the police before anyone did anything.
stop talking please! this would probably NEVER happen in germany, probably not in spain, france and other EU countries, whatever they are. i dont know about the US but i'm sure it would not happen there as well.
Things like this happen "anywhere, anytime." Crap
I'm completely shocked about how the majority of the chinese people didnt give a shit in this video.
Comments like "i can understand them", "they are afraid to help" make me sick. You see what death penalty causes!
Think it through before you start posting, think thru all the possibilities, and consequences, and ask yourself, it's a 10% chance that you could toss your family's future out the window, I would make a decision that would not harm my family,
Many may not know this but moralfaggotry is a sin
You're completely retarted. Walking by and doing nothing is a sin. Are you serious? Moralfaggotry?
We call this civil courage. You probably dont know what that means. We have a law here that sais you must help if someone is in need. If you dont help you go to jail up to one year. You know why we have that law? because it's absolutely sick if you dont help... Chinese government must be really fucked up.
Toss your families future? What a joke. People there dont even call the emergency doctor... People that dont help are scam nothing more. The least thing they could do is calling a doctor but who am i speaking with anyways...
The Holocaust
You're a joke. holocaust... pretty of topic
I don't define myself through countries.
I hate bad governments, bad laws, bad society... but god damn this has nothing to do with race. Chinese society must be REALLY bad if things like this happen on a regular basis (which has been mentioned a lot in this thread).
Oh and your country bashing thing is pretty poor... holocaust was the most disgusting thing in history of mankind. I'm in no way patriotic... so i dont know what you want to say to me.
@ RavenLoud
"Ironically it is through similar sentiments that extremism and fascism arise. I sense that European politics is heading towards dark times."
There is only ONE right thing to do in such a situation which is to help. On this particular topic anyone who tries to find excuses for not helping a dying child in the slightest (e.g. calling emergency doctor and leave) is wrong. Also where did i say that chinese people in general have no civil courage? Laying words in other peoples mouth is pretty common on internet forums huh?
Man, this is sad. I really hope China begins promoting and restoring its traditional values that were lost in the cultural revolution in the 60s. There is no way in hell something like this can happen in Taiwan or Hong Kong.
The stupidity being boasted in this thread is rival to none, from "holocaust?" to over exaggerated aggressive posts which borderline trolling instead of discussing...
Does anyone here realize that the idea of a discussion, is for two opposing arguments to go head to head and eventually both parties will form some bridge of common ground or "agree to disagree"...
This is exactly the opposite of what should happen.. --DISCLAIMER-- Sorry to the few who carried well rounded discussions, the very few or those who just gave their opinion (which I'm sure was ranted against to death). + Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2011 09:46 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: Oh God, is there some conspiracy on TL I don't know about that equates to "post every bad thing that happens in China"? The strong majority of threads about something bad happening as a result of people's actions have to do with China. I don't get it :S.
This is a tragedy, but shit like this happens anytime, anywhere. It isn't exclusive to just China.
I know, from experience, there's a fair chance there's going to be some sinophobic posts in this thread like there are in every other one concerning China. Already, there's a bit of a slant in the OP, such as this statement:
This phenomenon of watching idly may seem barbaric to us in the US
as if implying that all Americans are high-class mannered folks and Chinese are evil and barbaric (lol).
No, this phenomenon is not barbaric in the US. I've heard it happen plenty of times and even seen it happen (I've usually gone to the rescue in those several occasions, and in one case I was even indicted as the perpetrator even when the victim vouched for me... it took above-godly tact and argumentation to get out of that pickle), despite the "Good Samaritan" law. People getting beat up, shot, hit by vehicles, you name it. The best I've seen or heard of is something calling an ambulance and then going along their way, by strangers that is (obviously a family member or good friend is going to be of some serious assistance).
Hell what am I saying? Just a couple months ago, a relative was at a gas station in the evening, got assaulted, tried to fight back and was shot a few times (and the thugs left), and people still came to the gas station and didn't do shit, the people/employees inside the store didn't do shit. She had to crawl her way into there and basically show them her condition and to call the police before anyone did anything.
stop talking please! this would probably NEVER happen in germany, probably not in spain, france and other EU countries, whatever they are. i dont know about the US but i'm sure it would not happen there as well.
Things like this happen "anywhere, anytime." Crap
I'm completely shocked about how the majority of the chinese people didnt give a shit in this video.
Comments like "i can understand them", "they are afraid to help" make me sick. You see what death penalty causes!
Think it through before you start posting, think thru all the possibilities, and consequences, and ask yourself, it's a 10% chance that you could toss your family's future out the window, I would make a decision that would not harm my family,
Many may not know this but moralfaggotry is a sin
You're completely retarted. Walking by and doing nothing is a sin. Are you serious? Moralfaggotry?
We call this civil courage. You probably dont know what that means. We have a law here that sais you must help if someone is in need. If you dont help you go to jail up to one year. You know why we have that law? because it's absolutely sick if you dont help... Chinese government must be really fucked up.
Toss your families future? What a joke. People there dont even call the emergency doctor... People that dont help are scam nothing more. The least thing they could do is calling a doctor but who am i speaking with anyways...
The Holocaust
You're a joke. holocaust... pretty of topic
I don't define myself through countries.
I hate bad governments, bad laws, bad society... but god damn this has nothing to do with race. Chinese society must be REALLY bad if things like this happen on a regular basis (which has been mentioned a lot in this thread).
Oh and your country bashing thing is pretty poor... holocaust was the most disgusting thing in history of mankind. I'm in no way patriotic... so i dont know what you want to say to me.
@ RavenLoud
"Ironically it is through similar sentiments that extremism and fascism arise. I sense that European politics is heading towards dark times."
There is only ONE right thing to do in such a situation which is to help. On this particular topic anyone who tries to find excuses for not helping a dying child in the slightest (e.g. calling emergency doctor and leave) is wrong. Also where did i say that chinese people in general have no civil courage? Laying words in other peoples mouth is pretty common on internet forums huh?
Fascism and me... funny
Also I promise you the holocaust was not the most disgusting thing to ever happen in mankind, you just have to realize that history books, they go past the 19th century... Look into what Mongolia did to the Khwarezmian Empire. Of course Holocaust was bad, but their was a lot of pretty horrific things that trump the holocaust in general magnitude...
On October 20 2011 06:11 MERLIN. wrote: The stupidity being boasted in this thread is rival to none, from "holocaust?" to over exaggerated aggressive posts which borderline trolling instead of discussing...
Does anyone here realize that the idea of a discussion, is for two opposing arguments to go head to head and eventually both parties will form some bridge of common ground or "agree to disagree"...
This is exactly the opposite of what should happen.. --DISCLAIMER-- Sorry to the few who carried well rounded discussions, the very few or those who just gave their opinion (which I'm sure was ranted against to death). + Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2011 09:46 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: Oh God, is there some conspiracy on TL I don't know about that equates to "post every bad thing that happens in China"? The strong majority of threads about something bad happening as a result of people's actions have to do with China. I don't get it :S.
This is a tragedy, but shit like this happens anytime, anywhere. It isn't exclusive to just China.
I know, from experience, there's a fair chance there's going to be some sinophobic posts in this thread like there are in every other one concerning China. Already, there's a bit of a slant in the OP, such as this statement:
This phenomenon of watching idly may seem barbaric to us in the US
as if implying that all Americans are high-class mannered folks and Chinese are evil and barbaric (lol).
No, this phenomenon is not barbaric in the US. I've heard it happen plenty of times and even seen it happen (I've usually gone to the rescue in those several occasions, and in one case I was even indicted as the perpetrator even when the victim vouched for me... it took above-godly tact and argumentation to get out of that pickle), despite the "Good Samaritan" law. People getting beat up, shot, hit by vehicles, you name it. The best I've seen or heard of is something calling an ambulance and then going along their way, by strangers that is (obviously a family member or good friend is going to be of some serious assistance).
Hell what am I saying? Just a couple months ago, a relative was at a gas station in the evening, got assaulted, tried to fight back and was shot a few times (and the thugs left), and people still came to the gas station and didn't do shit, the people/employees inside the store didn't do shit. She had to crawl her way into there and basically show them her condition and to call the police before anyone did anything.
stop talking please! this would probably NEVER happen in germany, probably not in spain, france and other EU countries, whatever they are. i dont know about the US but i'm sure it would not happen there as well.
Things like this happen "anywhere, anytime." Crap
I'm completely shocked about how the majority of the chinese people didnt give a shit in this video.
Comments like "i can understand them", "they are afraid to help" make me sick. You see what death penalty causes!
Think it through before you start posting, think thru all the possibilities, and consequences, and ask yourself, it's a 10% chance that you could toss your family's future out the window, I would make a decision that would not harm my family,
Many may not know this but moralfaggotry is a sin
You're completely retarted. Walking by and doing nothing is a sin. Are you serious? Moralfaggotry?
We call this civil courage. You probably dont know what that means. We have a law here that sais you must help if someone is in need. If you dont help you go to jail up to one year. You know why we have that law? because it's absolutely sick if you dont help... Chinese government must be really fucked up.
Toss your families future? What a joke. People there dont even call the emergency doctor... People that dont help are scam nothing more. The least thing they could do is calling a doctor but who am i speaking with anyways...
The Holocaust
You're a joke. holocaust... pretty of topic
I don't define myself through countries.
I hate bad governments, bad laws, bad society... but god damn this has nothing to do with race. Chinese society must be REALLY bad if things like this happen on a regular basis (which has been mentioned a lot in this thread).
Oh and your country bashing thing is pretty poor... holocaust was the most disgusting thing in history of mankind. I'm in no way patriotic... so i dont know what you want to say to me.
@ RavenLoud
"Ironically it is through similar sentiments that extremism and fascism arise. I sense that European politics is heading towards dark times."
There is only ONE right thing to do in such a situation which is to help. On this particular topic anyone who tries to find excuses for not helping a dying child in the slightest (e.g. calling emergency doctor and leave) is wrong. Also where did i say that chinese people in general have no civil courage? Laying words in other peoples mouth is pretty common on internet forums huh?
Fascism and me... funny
Also I promise you the holocaust was not the most disgusting thing to ever happen in mankind, you just have to realize that history books, they go past the 19th century... Look into what Mongolia did to the Khwarezmian Empire
You're totally right. My posts are too aggressive i know. A mistake on my part. But thats because i was shocked and i still can not understand in any way how you can walk by doing nothing.
"moralfaggotry", "fascism", "holocaust" was just too much
On October 20 2011 05:10 Mczeppo wrote: On this particular topic anyone who tries to find excuses for not helping a dying child in the slightest (e.g. calling emergency doctor and leave) is wrong.
Remember how the Nanjing judge's reasoning was: "You helped this old lady; therefore you must be guilty." It's not hard to see how that reasoning could be extended to "You called for help; therefore you must be guilty."
Not that there aren't ways around this; having several people call could be one of them. But something to consider.
Edit: Apparently I take far too long to make my posts. If the thread has already addressed this, feel free to ignore.
On October 18 2011 09:46 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: Oh God, is there some conspiracy on TL I don't know about that equates to "post every bad thing that happens in China"? The strong majority of threads about something bad happening as a result of people's actions have to do with China. I don't get it :S.
This is a tragedy, but shit like this happens anytime, anywhere. It isn't exclusive to just China. .
only a few species of primitive animals do not have any reaction to the suffering of one of their own or another species. even dogs have the ability to help another dog in need, here is the example
you are right in one thing, i've seen this happen in US and China but only there this is not conspiracy, or random shit happening around the world, this is the proof of the human nature being numb by the modern egocentric life style.
On October 20 2011 05:10 Mczeppo wrote: On this particular topic anyone who tries to find excuses for not helping a dying child in the slightest (e.g. calling emergency doctor and leave) is wrong.
Remember how the Nanjing judge's reasoning was: "You helped this old lady; therefore you must be guilty." It's not hard to see how that reasoning could be extended to "You called for help; therefore you must be guilty."
Not that there aren't ways around this; having several people call could be one of them. But something to consider.
Edit: Apparently I take far too long to make my posts. If the thread has already addressed this, feel free to ignore.
Its a sad state of mind when you start fearing the outcome so much you restrain yourself from doing the right thing.
I dunno, I just felt like saying that. I know this is how its been, for most, and probably always will be. Nothing I say will change it. I'm not even saying I don't understand the reasoning in what you said. It just frustrates me so much. There is no way I would leave a small child to die, no matter the consequence.
Might be a touchy topic but being born and raised a Christian, I really can't see myself not helping the child in some way. Anything that would've happened to me for consequences I'd put my faith in Him, much like I do with many other things in my life.
On October 20 2011 07:47 Archers_bane wrote: Might be a touchy topic but being born and raised a Christian, I really can't see myself not helping the child in some way. Anything that would've happened to me for consequences I'd put my faith in Him, much like I do with many other things in my life.
I really really really think you shouldn't bring religion into this. It never ends well.
On October 18 2011 09:46 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: Oh God, is there some conspiracy on TL I don't know about that equates to "post every bad thing that happens in China"? The strong majority of threads about something bad happening as a result of people's actions have to do with China. I don't get it :S.
This is a tragedy, but shit like this happens anytime, anywhere. It isn't exclusive to just China.
I know, from experience, there's a fair chance there's going to be some sinophobic posts in this thread like there are in every other one concerning China. Already, there's a bit of a slant in the OP, such as this statement:
This phenomenon of watching idly may seem barbaric to us in the US
as if implying that all Americans are high-class mannered folks and Chinese are evil and barbaric (lol).
No, this phenomenon is not barbaric in the US. I've heard it happen plenty of times and even seen it happen (I've usually gone to the rescue in those several occasions, and in one case I was even indicted as the perpetrator even when the victim vouched for me... it took above-godly tact and argumentation to get out of that pickle), despite the "Good Samaritan" law. People getting beat up, shot, hit by vehicles, you name it. The best I've seen or heard of is something calling an ambulance and then going along their way, by strangers that is (obviously a family member or good friend is going to be of some serious assistance).
Hell what am I saying? Just a couple months ago, a relative was at a gas station in the evening, got assaulted, tried to fight back and was shot a few times (and the thugs left), and people still came to the gas station and didn't do shit, the people/employees inside the store didn't do shit. She had to crawl her way into there and basically show them her condition and to call the police before anyone did anything.
stop talking please! this would probably NEVER happen in germany, probably not in spain, france and other EU countries, whatever they are. i dont know about the US but i'm sure it would not happen there as well.
Things like this happen "anywhere, anytime." Crap
I'm completely shocked about how the majority of the chinese people didnt give a shit in this video.
Comments like "i can understand them", "they are afraid to help" make me sick. You see what death penalty causes!
Think it through before you start posting, think thru all the possibilities, and consequences, and ask yourself, it's a 10% chance that you could toss your family's future out the window, I would make a decision that would not harm my family,
Many may not know this but moralfaggotry is a sin
You're completely retarted. Walking by and doing nothing is a sin. Are you serious? Moralfaggotry?
We call this civil courage. You probably dont know what that means. We have a law here that sais you must help if someone is in need. If you dont help you go to jail up to one year. You know why we have that law? because it's absolutely sick if you dont help... Chinese government must be really fucked up.
Toss your families future? What a joke. People there dont even call the emergency doctor... People that dont help are scam nothing more. The least thing they could do is calling a doctor but who am i speaking with anyways...
The Holocaust
You're a joke. holocaust... pretty of topic
I don't define myself through countries.
I hate bad governments, bad laws, bad society... but god damn this has nothing to do with race. Chinese society must be REALLY bad if things like this happen on a regular basis (which has been mentioned a lot in this thread).
Oh and your country bashing thing is pretty poor... holocaust was the most disgusting thing in history of mankind. I'm in no way patriotic... so i dont know what you want to say to me.
@ RavenLoud
"Ironically it is through similar sentiments that extremism and fascism arise. I sense that European politics is heading towards dark times."
There is only ONE right thing to do in such a situation which is to help. On this particular topic anyone who tries to find excuses for not helping a dying child in the slightest (e.g. calling emergency doctor and leave) is wrong. Also where did i say that chinese people in general have no civil courage? Laying words in other peoples mouth is pretty common on internet forums huh?
Fascism and me... funny
The sad thing is that scams are so prevalent that most people probably did NOT think the child was dying, but instead think they may be getting tricked by a scammer (help child, people pop out of nowhere blaming you for hurting the child, make a big public scene, etc. all for money). Not trying to justify by any means, but just highlighting that the situation is so messed up that the instinctual response to help a frickin dying kid has been overridden by self-interest.
On October 20 2011 06:11 MERLIN. wrote: The stupidity being boasted in this thread is rival to none, from "holocaust?" to over exaggerated aggressive posts which borderline trolling instead of discussing...
Does anyone here realize that the idea of a discussion, is for two opposing arguments to go head to head and eventually both parties will form some bridge of common ground or "agree to disagree"...
This is exactly the opposite of what should happen.. --DISCLAIMER-- Sorry to the few who carried well rounded discussions, the very few or those who just gave their opinion (which I'm sure was ranted against to death). + Show Spoiler +
On October 18 2011 09:46 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: Oh God, is there some conspiracy on TL I don't know about that equates to "post every bad thing that happens in China"? The strong majority of threads about something bad happening as a result of people's actions have to do with China. I don't get it :S.
This is a tragedy, but shit like this happens anytime, anywhere. It isn't exclusive to just China.
I know, from experience, there's a fair chance there's going to be some sinophobic posts in this thread like there are in every other one concerning China. Already, there's a bit of a slant in the OP, such as this statement:
This phenomenon of watching idly may seem barbaric to us in the US
as if implying that all Americans are high-class mannered folks and Chinese are evil and barbaric (lol).
No, this phenomenon is not barbaric in the US. I've heard it happen plenty of times and even seen it happen (I've usually gone to the rescue in those several occasions, and in one case I was even indicted as the perpetrator even when the victim vouched for me... it took above-godly tact and argumentation to get out of that pickle), despite the "Good Samaritan" law. People getting beat up, shot, hit by vehicles, you name it. The best I've seen or heard of is something calling an ambulance and then going along their way, by strangers that is (obviously a family member or good friend is going to be of some serious assistance).
Hell what am I saying? Just a couple months ago, a relative was at a gas station in the evening, got assaulted, tried to fight back and was shot a few times (and the thugs left), and people still came to the gas station and didn't do shit, the people/employees inside the store didn't do shit. She had to crawl her way into there and basically show them her condition and to call the police before anyone did anything.
stop talking please! this would probably NEVER happen in germany, probably not in spain, france and other EU countries, whatever they are. i dont know about the US but i'm sure it would not happen there as well.
Things like this happen "anywhere, anytime." Crap
I'm completely shocked about how the majority of the chinese people didnt give a shit in this video.
Comments like "i can understand them", "they are afraid to help" make me sick. You see what death penalty causes!
Think it through before you start posting, think thru all the possibilities, and consequences, and ask yourself, it's a 10% chance that you could toss your family's future out the window, I would make a decision that would not harm my family,
Many may not know this but moralfaggotry is a sin
You're completely retarted. Walking by and doing nothing is a sin. Are you serious? Moralfaggotry?
We call this civil courage. You probably dont know what that means. We have a law here that sais you must help if someone is in need. If you dont help you go to jail up to one year. You know why we have that law? because it's absolutely sick if you dont help... Chinese government must be really fucked up.
Toss your families future? What a joke. People there dont even call the emergency doctor... People that dont help are scam nothing more. The least thing they could do is calling a doctor but who am i speaking with anyways...
The Holocaust
You're a joke. holocaust... pretty of topic
I don't define myself through countries.
I hate bad governments, bad laws, bad society... but god damn this has nothing to do with race. Chinese society must be REALLY bad if things like this happen on a regular basis (which has been mentioned a lot in this thread).
Oh and your country bashing thing is pretty poor... holocaust was the most disgusting thing in history of mankind. I'm in no way patriotic... so i dont know what you want to say to me.
@ RavenLoud
"Ironically it is through similar sentiments that extremism and fascism arise. I sense that European politics is heading towards dark times."
There is only ONE right thing to do in such a situation which is to help. On this particular topic anyone who tries to find excuses for not helping a dying child in the slightest (e.g. calling emergency doctor and leave) is wrong. Also where did i say that chinese people in general have no civil courage? Laying words in other peoples mouth is pretty common on internet forums huh?
Fascism and me... funny
Also I promise you the holocaust was not the most disgusting thing to ever happen in mankind, you just have to realize that history books, they go past the 19th century... Look into what Mongolia did to the Khwarezmian Empire. Of course Holocaust was bad, but their was a lot of pretty horrific things that trump the holocaust in general magnitude...
Pretty terrible yes. O_o If you think what they did to the Khwarazmian empire was bad, what they did to the Abbasid kingdom was even worse. Killing off everyone, and making sure to scour all the land to destroy farmland, so that the few who didn't die by the violence, died from starvation. A huge contrast to Mongol actions everywhere else, which were rather "lenient" in comparison, although Khwarazmia did suffer more from the Mongols than any of the other places except the Abbasid caliphate. Why the Mongols were 10x more bloodthirsty against these lands than anywhere else, I don't know. It seems like the more advanced and sophisticated a nation was, they more the Mongols wrecked it. I guess the Abbasid caliphate being at the top in this regard required that they be annihilated by the Mongols.
On October 18 2011 09:46 JudicatorHammurabi wrote: Oh God, is there some conspiracy on TL I don't know about that equates to "post every bad thing that happens in China"? The strong majority of threads about something bad happening as a result of people's actions have to do with China. I don't get it :S.
This is a tragedy, but shit like this happens anytime, anywhere. It isn't exclusive to just China.
I know, from experience, there's a fair chance there's going to be some sinophobic posts in this thread like there are in every other one concerning China. Already, there's a bit of a slant in the OP, such as this statement:
This phenomenon of watching idly may seem barbaric to us in the US
as if implying that all Americans are high-class mannered folks and Chinese are evil and barbaric (lol).
No, this phenomenon is not barbaric in the US. I've heard it happen plenty of times and even seen it happen (I've usually gone to the rescue in those several occasions, and in one case I was even indicted as the perpetrator even when the victim vouched for me... it took above-godly tact and argumentation to get out of that pickle), despite the "Good Samaritan" law. People getting beat up, shot, hit by vehicles, you name it. The best I've seen or heard of is something calling an ambulance and then going along their way, by strangers that is (obviously a family member or good friend is going to be of some serious assistance).
Hell what am I saying? Just a couple months ago, a relative was at a gas station in the evening, got assaulted, tried to fight back and was shot a few times (and the thugs left), and people still came to the gas station and didn't do shit, the people/employees inside the store didn't do shit. She had to crawl her way into there and basically show them her condition and to call the police before anyone did anything.
stop talking please! this would probably NEVER happen in germany, probably not in spain, france and other EU countries, whatever they are. i dont know about the US but i'm sure it would not happen there as well.
Things like this happen "anywhere, anytime." Crap
I'm completely shocked about how the majority of the chinese people didnt give a shit in this video.
Comments like "i can understand them", "they are afraid to help" make me sick. You see what death penalty causes!
Think it through before you start posting, think thru all the possibilities, and consequences, and ask yourself, it's a 10% chance that you could toss your family's future out the window, I would make a decision that would not harm my family,
Many may not know this but moralfaggotry is a sin
You're completely retarted. Walking by and doing nothing is a sin. Are you serious? Moralfaggotry?
We call this civil courage. You probably dont know what that means. We have a law here that sais you must help if someone is in need. If you dont help you go to jail up to one year. You know why we have that law? because it's absolutely sick if you dont help... Chinese government must be really fucked up.
Toss your families future? What a joke. People there dont even call the emergency doctor... People that dont help are scam nothing more. The least thing they could do is calling a doctor but who am i speaking with anyways...
The Holocaust
You're a joke. holocaust... pretty of topic
I don't define myself through countries.
I hate bad governments, bad laws, bad society... but god damn this has nothing to do with race. Chinese society must be REALLY bad if things like this happen on a regular basis (which has been mentioned a lot in this thread).
Oh and your country bashing thing is pretty poor... holocaust was the most disgusting thing in history of mankind. I'm in no way patriotic... so i dont know what you want to say to me.
And I'm saying this shit can happen even with a "good" government, "good" laws, and "good" society. Your hypocrisy is amusing since you don't like people associating your country with 1 event, and yet saying shit like "this would never happen in Germany" at the same time.
EPT
I really hope China begins promoting and restoring its traditional values that were lost in the cultural revolution in the 60s. There is no way in hell something like this can happen in Taiwan or Hong Kong.
