On October 18 2011 11:27 T0fuuu wrote: Right. I'll remember how cultured and civilised the Americans are then next time yet another video of US troops executing civilians comes out and then blame it on American culture/Law and capitalism and all that stuff.
Horrifying yeah but get over it. If someone got hit by a truck, their guts open and their legs smashed, mouth gaping like a gold fish as they choke on their own blood, I somehow doubt I would go hero mode and pull them away. People dont like death and blood and will avoid it whenever they can.
Way to generalise absolutely every concept possible that is related to this topic and add a little bit of "US hate" to it as well.
Why characterise an ENTIRE nation of people based on the actions of their military during war time? I am not even American and your post offends me. It is this EXACT attitude that is the problem; human life should be the number 1 priority; full stop.
It's funny how you foreigners do the same to us all the time, but we aren't allowed to say the same to you.
On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote: We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own.
Altruism is one of the main characteristics of being a human being. You are less then a human being. When your two year old child is dying in the street bleeding to death and crying in pain, and someone walks by and says "Wow, I'd love to help but I need to get home for dinner!" Please come and defend that person, I'd love to see it.
Get off your moral high horse. You foreigners have no place to say anything. She can cry and scream all she have to, My 1st duty as a human being and as a man goes to my family If I have to risk my family and their future for that one girl, then it is most unfortunate for her
oh stfu you live in the US and i lived in a commie country myself. You don't run no risk anyway if there is a camera there's proof of your innocence and if there isn't one noone is holding you down when you hear the sirens.
Read up on the '06 ruling please.
you should read it. And read my post. And think.
I've read it. And I've read every one of your posts.
All your posts are angry, no-content attacks on other posters from your high horse. Every one of your posts makes it seem like you have no idea what the '06 decision is even about or what it says. You're ignorant and I honestly think half your posts are utter bs.
I'm not defending the actions of the people in the video. But I do understand the context of what they have to live through and deal with. Would I do the same? I don't know; I don't think so. I think I'll help the girl, but again, I don't live in that environment, and neither do you.
Calm yo tits.
Since you're clearly stupid i'll explain step by step how you should act in this situation in china. Call 911 and help the girl out any way you can. Unless ure a medical expert all you can do is try to stop the bleeding if it's obvious how to, and block the road. When you hear the police sirens you walk away. Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
On October 18 2011 11:31 Jonoman92 wrote: Another video showing the worst the human race has to offer. Even if you are an asshole afraid of getting sued you get anonymously call 911 and perhaps be so generous as to move the girl from the middle of the street.
On October 18 2011 11:24 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 11:22 Xinliben wrote:
On October 18 2011 11:19 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 11:15 Xinliben wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote: We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own.
Altruism is one of the main characteristics of being a human being. You are less then a human being. When your two year old child is dying in the street bleeding to death and crying in pain, and someone walks by and says "Wow, I'd love to help but I need to get home for dinner!" Please come and defend that person, I'd love to see it.
Get off your moral high horse. You foreigners have no place to say anything. She can cry and scream all she have to, My 1st duty as a human being and as a man goes to my family If I have to risk my family and their future for that one girl, then it is most unfortunate for her
I'd love to see you provide for your family when you get stabbed and robbed, and crawl on your stomach for 30 minutes until you die while everyone walks around you so they don't get their blood on their new shoes.
I have life insurance my family is covered
Hope you don't get murdered by someone who makes it look like a suicide. Pretty sure life insurance doesn't get collected in that case.
Well then I'll resign to my own fate, matter of the fact is yes helping is good but when it puts the ones you love in jeopardy you have to prioritize thing a bit
What everyone is saying is that refusing to help people who need dire, immediate assistance because you are scared of losing money makes you look like pathetic, also reading your fish thread, I guess you are a rich and sheltered person who doesn't have to deal with these problems anyway, because helping people in most first world countries doesn't result in getting sued. I don't give to charities, I don't help the homeless, I don't let little girls get run over by trucks and bleed to death on the street while counting the money in my pocket.
This is why I hate having stupid shit in the general discussion thread.
First, people post this only to cause general inflammatory reaction and horror on some barbaric people from overseas. Unfortunately for these people, sometimes somebody who actually lives there posts with a different perspective. Course, he gets attacked, not just his views but also him personally. Know this: just because you guys are hypocrtitical hikikomori stay-at-home assholes does not make you better than other people. Essentially, you're saying that its ok to criticize somebody's person via ad hominem for having a different point of view. Unless, of course, he lives across the world in another culture and was raised there all his life or anything. Regardless of whether or not he did, what does that have to do with perspective? On that note, as a Chinese person, I must find how you guys proliferate use the number 4 to be quite shocking. Should I go ahead and report anybody who has "4" in there post count because it offends me and is completely against my personal perspective?
On October 18 2011 10:44 FFGenerations wrote: dont you think this is fearmongering tho Blasterion? ie it happened in one or a handful of televised cases and people shouldnt take it to heart? so next time someone says "oh you should BLAH BLAH because i heard BLAH on the news and its awwwful i know but..." you should just be like "i dont give a flying fuck, ill do what i want to do, maybe there is a 0.001% chance itll screw me over but that can go fuck itself"
If it's even a 0.001% chance I'd screw over my family. then I am no going to risk it.
so do you smoke? do you wear lights when you walk in the evening? do you drink alcohol? do you go to gym every other day and eat a perfect diet? do you keep your kid on a leash so she doesnt wander off (americans do this)?
at the end of the day people will do whatever they do, but you need to keep your choices in perspective with one another and recognise irregularities so you can move towards a well-defined set of values rather than letting yourself be brainwashed day upon day based on retarded things like "in 2006 this one time this one judge made this call that i completely disagree with and so do most people but im still gonna go along with it"
its PATHETIC how people let themselves be lead up one street and then the other . you should know what values you believe in and adhere to it. otherwise what worth and integrity do you have? you really are a sheep or a poodle of anyone and everyone around you. you are just a lump of meat taking consolation in your tiny little corner in the world until you die or until your situation forces change, upon which you latch like a leech upon the next control that is set on your head like a collar by some other man
i was actually wrong in my last post to some extent. when we were cave men we had a very social and solidarity lifestyle but, of course, we raped and murdered the shit out of other tribes whenever they came near and then wore their severed heads as relics.
so the same shit happens between nations, it happens between ethnicity, religion, it happens between people who live on one side of a rock and the other, it happens between individuals.
but it is not something we should be advocating after fucking 1 million years of social evolution. we are unique in that we can make our own CHOICE and recognise when we are brainwashed by others and recognised when we are brainwashed by our own emotional state.
that is why millions of people every day say GO FUCK YOURSELF to these dumb fake values and age-old idiocies that we still believe in as if they are the fucking perfect resolution for our confusing lives.
Uh, you're right that we can think for ourselves, and that's exactly what some of us are doing. While there are people who risk their livelihood for a stranger, there are others who weigh the pros and cons. I'd be more inclined to say that the people who rush into everything without a thought are the ones who haven't evolved past primal instinct. The ones calculating the odds are the ones who are actually using their brains.
Again, you only say that cause you've lived a sheltered life, and quiet honestly since we're on this forum, bad at computer games. When someone is about to jump you in the street good luck weighting pros and cons.
What the fuck, this shit disgusts me. You just take a fucking seat on your high horse and look down at everyone who doesnt agree with you, calling them 'sheltered' or even 'scum' what the fuck is wrong with you? You have NO fucking idea what kind of life chinese people have to live. You dont understand that kind of fear being bred and festering in a corrupt environment for years. What the FUCK gives you the right to judge when you never have and probably never WILL be in that exact situation?
lol. I've lived in belarus for half my life. I understand that shit better then you.
I've lived my entire life here in bangladesh, a third world country where law is more for show than use. Trust me, i understand what its like being raised and told from a young age to fear something and avoid it. Maybe not the same things the chinese have learned to fear, but i understand the situation of accepting atrocities as something that WILL happen to you if you dont react a certain way and defend yourself from it. You seem too idealistic to have grown up in a place where 1 mistake could mean you or your family are fucked for life.
Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
And its this kinda naive shit that makes me think that
On October 18 2011 11:31 Jonoman92 wrote: Another video showing the worst the human race has to offer. Even if you are an asshole afraid of getting sued you get anonymously call 911 and perhaps be so generous as to move the girl from the middle of the street.
On October 18 2011 11:24 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 11:22 Xinliben wrote:
On October 18 2011 11:19 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 11:15 Xinliben wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote: We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own.
Altruism is one of the main characteristics of being a human being. You are less then a human being. When your two year old child is dying in the street bleeding to death and crying in pain, and someone walks by and says "Wow, I'd love to help but I need to get home for dinner!" Please come and defend that person, I'd love to see it.
Get off your moral high horse. You foreigners have no place to say anything. She can cry and scream all she have to, My 1st duty as a human being and as a man goes to my family If I have to risk my family and their future for that one girl, then it is most unfortunate for her
I'd love to see you provide for your family when you get stabbed and robbed, and crawl on your stomach for 30 minutes until you die while everyone walks around you so they don't get their blood on their new shoes.
I have life insurance my family is covered
Hope you don't get murdered by someone who makes it look like a suicide. Pretty sure life insurance doesn't get collected in that case.
Well then I'll resign to my own fate, matter of the fact is yes helping is good but when it puts the ones you love in jeopardy you have to prioritize thing a bit
Honest question - i am not trying to be sarcastic or anything; but let's assume the family sues you - and the '06 decision is reinforced and you are liable for 40% of the medical bills.
Is someone in your family going to die?
I think it's safe to assume that unless he's making a ton of dough his family has a real risk of being out on the streets.
Let's think of it this way, do you think it's fair to put your entire family out on the streets because you tried to save a complete stranger? Your family will have nowhere to live, nothing to eat, and your children will likely live their entire lives homeless. What would you do?
Or think of it this way, how would you react if one day your father came home and told you that the entire family is now going into poverty because he decided to help a complete stranger and you're now reduced to living on the streets with no future prospects?
On October 18 2011 11:27 T0fuuu wrote: Right. I'll remember how cultured and civilised the Americans are then next time yet another video of US troops executing civilians comes out and then blame it on American culture/Law and capitalism and all that stuff.
Horrifying yeah but get over it. If someone got hit by a truck, their guts open and their legs smashed, mouth gaping like a gold fish as they choke on their own blood, I somehow doubt I would go hero mode and pull them away. People dont like death and blood and will avoid it whenever they can.
Way to generalise absolutely every concept possible that is related to this topic and add a little bit of "US hate" to it as well.
Why characterise an ENTIRE nation of people based on the actions of their military during war time? I am not even American and your post offends me. It is this EXACT attitude that is the problem; human life should be the number 1 priority; full stop.
It's funny how you foreigners do the same to us all the time, but we aren't allowed to say the same to you.
"You foreigners?" The point of my post was to focus on the individual's actions rather than generalising an entire country needlessly. I try my best not to generalise "you Chinese" people and present a fair opinion. It's like saying i might type a perfectly accurate and convincing post but you aren't going to believe it because i am a foreigner. I am not trying to attack your opinion, i am trying to have a discussion about the topic and someone waltzing in and posting "Next time the US goes to war we will see who is laughing!?" isn't really contributing anything.
On October 18 2011 11:27 T0fuuu wrote: Right. I'll remember how cultured and civilised the Americans are then next time yet another video of US troops executing civilians comes out and then blame it on American culture/Law and capitalism and all that stuff.
Horrifying yeah but get over it. If someone got hit by a truck, their guts open and their legs smashed, mouth gaping like a gold fish as they choke on their own blood, I somehow doubt I would go hero mode and pull them away. People dont like death and blood and will avoid it whenever they can.
Here is the problem that I think a lot of people that are not American think. First off I am not the one that killed civilians , a lot of our troops that do them type of things, because I am not denying they don't. have to follow orders, no matter what that is. That is the military for you. However our government is so fucked up we do bomb civilians / kill ppl that have nothing to do with a war. HOWEVER you are lumping all the Americans together.. you dont think that other country do this also? I am sure every country that has been in war has had civilians killed its just in the public eye for the USA, because everyone wants America to fail.
Also to your other point yes I would help whoever it is... I have helped someone dieing from cancer before ... choking on there own blood eyes rolling in the back of there head as they gasp for breathe. I think a lot of people when there adrenaline kicks in and FIGHT or FLIGHT kicks in wouldn't go into shock till after. However I worked in a hospital so maybe I was just more used to it.
This has nothing to do with your comment but I read someone say that they wouldn't help because of legal reasons.. I dont know if people know this but it used to be (still might?) if you where going to give someone CPR you where suppose to ask them if you could start CPR because if that person dies there family has a legal right to sue you also I think with the Heimlich maneuver also. But I would never just let someone die ever, if I could help that person I would in a heart beat lawsuit or not.
On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote: We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own.
Altruism is one of the main characteristics of being a human being. You are less then a human being. When your two year old child is dying in the street bleeding to death and crying in pain, and someone walks by and says "Wow, I'd love to help but I need to get home for dinner!" Please come and defend that person, I'd love to see it.
Get off your moral high horse. You foreigners have no place to say anything. She can cry and scream all she have to, My 1st duty as a human being and as a man goes to my family If I have to risk my family and their future for that one girl, then it is most unfortunate for her
oh stfu you live in the US and i lived in a commie country myself. You don't run no risk anyway if there is a camera there's proof of your innocence and if there isn't one noone is holding you down when you hear the sirens.
Read up on the '06 ruling please.
you should read it. And read my post. And think.
I've read it. And I've read every one of your posts.
All your posts are angry, no-content attacks on other posters from your high horse. Every one of your posts makes it seem like you have no idea what the '06 decision is even about or what it says. You're ignorant and I honestly think half your posts are utter bs.
I'm not defending the actions of the people in the video. But I do understand the context of what they have to live through and deal with. Would I do the same? I don't know; I don't think so. I think I'll help the girl, but again, I don't live in that environment, and neither do you.
Calm yo tits.
Since you're clearly stupid i'll explain step by step how you should act in this situation in china. Call 911 and help the girl out any way you can. Unless ure a medical expert all you can do is try to stop the bleeding if it's obvious how to, and block the road. When you hear the police sirens you walk away. Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
Is that what you really expect to happen? how should you act? certainly not like Americans in the streets of New York or Chinese in this case... If only people were as bright and know how to act
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT I'M SO ANGRY FUCKING SAVAGES HOW CAN YOU RUN OVER SOMEONE STOP AND THEN RUN OVER AGAIN FUCK YOU AND FUCK EVERYONE WHO JUST WALKED BY AND DID NOTHING MOTHERFUCKERS.
On October 18 2011 11:31 Jonoman92 wrote: Another video showing the worst the human race has to offer. Even if you are an asshole afraid of getting sued you get anonymously call 911 and perhaps be so generous as to move the girl from the middle of the street.
On October 18 2011 11:24 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 11:22 Xinliben wrote:
On October 18 2011 11:19 Blasterion wrote:
On October 18 2011 11:15 Xinliben wrote:
On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote: We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own.
Altruism is one of the main characteristics of being a human being. You are less then a human being. When your two year old child is dying in the street bleeding to death and crying in pain, and someone walks by and says "Wow, I'd love to help but I need to get home for dinner!" Please come and defend that person, I'd love to see it.
Get off your moral high horse. You foreigners have no place to say anything. She can cry and scream all she have to, My 1st duty as a human being and as a man goes to my family If I have to risk my family and their future for that one girl, then it is most unfortunate for her
I'd love to see you provide for your family when you get stabbed and robbed, and crawl on your stomach for 30 minutes until you die while everyone walks around you so they don't get their blood on their new shoes.
I have life insurance my family is covered
Hope you don't get murdered by someone who makes it look like a suicide. Pretty sure life insurance doesn't get collected in that case.
Well then I'll resign to my own fate, matter of the fact is yes helping is good but when it puts the ones you love in jeopardy you have to prioritize thing a bit
Honest question - i am not trying to be sarcastic or anything; but let's assume the family sues you - and the '06 decision is reinforced and you are liable for 40% of the medical bills.
Is someone in your family going to die?
I think it's safe to assume that unless he's making a ton of dough his family has a real risk of being out on the streets.
Let's think of it this way, do you think it's fair to put your entire family out on the streets because you tried to save a complete stranger? Your family will have nowhere to live, nothing to eat, and your children will likely live their entire lives homeless. What would you do?
Or think of it this way, how would you react if one day your father came home and told you that the entire family is now going into poverty because he decided to help a complete stranger and you're now reduced to living on the streets with no future prospects?
I don't think it's fair, but I think it's right. And that is much more important to me. Fairness is a childish concept anyways, its just wishful thinking
On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote: We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own.
Altruism is one of the main characteristics of being a human being. You are less then a human being. When your two year old child is dying in the street bleeding to death and crying in pain, and someone walks by and says "Wow, I'd love to help but I need to get home for dinner!" Please come and defend that person, I'd love to see it.
Get off your moral high horse. You foreigners have no place to say anything. She can cry and scream all she have to, My 1st duty as a human being and as a man goes to my family If I have to risk my family and their future for that one girl, then it is most unfortunate for her
oh stfu you live in the US and i lived in a commie country myself. You don't run no risk anyway if there is a camera there's proof of your innocence and if there isn't one noone is holding you down when you hear the sirens.
Read up on the '06 ruling please.
you should read it. And read my post. And think.
I've read it. And I've read every one of your posts.
All your posts are angry, no-content attacks on other posters from your high horse. Every one of your posts makes it seem like you have no idea what the '06 decision is even about or what it says. You're ignorant and I honestly think half your posts are utter bs.
I'm not defending the actions of the people in the video. But I do understand the context of what they have to live through and deal with. Would I do the same? I don't know; I don't think so. I think I'll help the girl, but again, I don't live in that environment, and neither do you.
Calm yo tits.
Since you're clearly stupid i'll explain step by step how you should act in this situation in china. Call 911 and help the girl out any way you can. Unless ure a medical expert all you can do is try to stop the bleeding if it's obvious how to, and block the road. When you hear the police sirens you walk away. Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
Now if you actually read the 06 decision and have a decent knowledge of how Chinese courts and government works, you'll know that once you do all that, you can get sued and you will lose despite everything you've done and the camera footage. If you walk away, police track you down and you get fucked anyways.
What I don't think you get is that courts in China don't necessarily work on the process of evidence. Whatever the fuck the judge says, goes. They don't need proof, they don't need evidence. There is a reason why there are only FOUR practicing lawyers in all of China that aren't CCP members. Courts there are more fucked up than you clearly know.
On October 18 2011 09:55 Blasterion wrote: This sucks, I would've at least looked for help or anything, but legal liability makes it a big problem. This is the same as the Old person falling problem, Think in the shoes of those people. What if, the child's parents asked you be legally liable? Because unlike an old person a toddler is unable to denouce legal liability for helping them.
If I was there (hypothetically) I would call an ambulance, but not physically help the girl because of this. This is the only reasonable action to take. My future life is more important. As much as I would help her, Call me cruel, the most I could probably do is call an ambulance
This is why Good Samaritan laws exist in most developed countries, so you can't be auto-sued for helping people.
Why characterise an ENTIRE nation of people based on the actions of their military during war time? I am not even American and your post offends me. It is this EXACT attitude that is the problem; human life should be the number 1 priority; full stop.
Roflmao. Do you think people arent offended by the op labelling chinese society as inhumane over 1 accident?
Get over yourself. People will characterise entire nations over 1 event just as not all people will dive in and pull bodies out of a trainwreck. Next time you see a car accident and see people filming it on their phones I hope you realise how few people share your view.
At least.. The police got involved.. But that might just be to look good in the international scene.
While I realize this is not in the best of places in China, it makes me sick and kind grateful that I was raised in the US and not China where my parents are from.
On October 18 2011 10:11 Blasterion wrote: We're not saying not to help them, but you gotta be cautious to help people in China, Their lives are not as important as your own.
Altruism is one of the main characteristics of being a human being. You are less then a human being. When your two year old child is dying in the street bleeding to death and crying in pain, and someone walks by and says "Wow, I'd love to help but I need to get home for dinner!" Please come and defend that person, I'd love to see it.
Get off your moral high horse. You foreigners have no place to say anything. She can cry and scream all she have to, My 1st duty as a human being and as a man goes to my family If I have to risk my family and their future for that one girl, then it is most unfortunate for her
oh stfu you live in the US and i lived in a commie country myself. You don't run no risk anyway if there is a camera there's proof of your innocence and if there isn't one noone is holding you down when you hear the sirens.
Read up on the '06 ruling please.
you should read it. And read my post. And think.
I've read it. And I've read every one of your posts.
All your posts are angry, no-content attacks on other posters from your high horse. Every one of your posts makes it seem like you have no idea what the '06 decision is even about or what it says. You're ignorant and I honestly think half your posts are utter bs.
I'm not defending the actions of the people in the video. But I do understand the context of what they have to live through and deal with. Would I do the same? I don't know; I don't think so. I think I'll help the girl, but again, I don't live in that environment, and neither do you.
Calm yo tits.
Since you're clearly stupid i'll explain step by step how you should act in this situation in china. Call 911 and help the girl out any way you can. Unless ure a medical expert all you can do is try to stop the bleeding if it's obvious how to, and block the road. When you hear the police sirens you walk away. Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
Now if you actually read the 06 decision and have a decent knowledge of how Chinese courts and government works, you'll know that once you do all that, you can get sued and you will lose despite everything you've done and the camera footage. If you walk away, police track you down and you get fucked anyways.
What I don't think you get is that courts in China don't necessarily work on the process of evidence. Whatever the fuck the judge says, goes. They don't need proof, they don't need evidence. There is a reason why there are only FOUR practicing lawyers in all of China that aren't CCP members. Courts there are more fucked up than you clearly know.
On October 18 2011 11:27 T0fuuu wrote: Right. I'll remember how cultured and civilised the Americans are then next time yet another video of US troops executing civilians comes out and then blame it on American culture/Law and capitalism and all that stuff.
Horrifying yeah but get over it. If someone got hit by a truck, their guts open and their legs smashed, mouth gaping like a gold fish as they choke on their own blood, I somehow doubt I would go hero mode and pull them away. People dont like death and blood and will avoid it whenever they can.
Way to generalise absolutely every concept possible that is related to this topic and add a little bit of "US hate" to it as well.
Why characterise an ENTIRE nation of people based on the actions of their military during war time? I am not even American and your post offends me. It is this EXACT attitude that is the problem; human life should be the number 1 priority; full stop.
It's funny how you foreigners do the same to us all the time, but we aren't allowed to say the same to you.
"You foreigners?" The point of my post was to focus on the individual's actions rather than generalising an entire country needlessly. I try my best not to generalise "you Chinese" people and present a fair opinion. It's like saying i might type a perfectly accurate and convincing post but you aren't going to believe it because i am a foreigner. I am not trying to attack your opinion, i am trying to have a discussion about the topic and someone waltzing in and posting "Next time the US goes to war we will see who is laughing!?" isn't really contributing anything.
I'll remember your post when the next person post some chinese hate garbage and is location labeled United States or some European country, funny I see that a lot.
On October 18 2011 10:44 FFGenerations wrote: dont you think this is fearmongering tho Blasterion? ie it happened in one or a handful of televised cases and people shouldnt take it to heart? so next time someone says "oh you should BLAH BLAH because i heard BLAH on the news and its awwwful i know but..." you should just be like "i dont give a flying fuck, ill do what i want to do, maybe there is a 0.001% chance itll screw me over but that can go fuck itself"
If it's even a 0.001% chance I'd screw over my family. then I am no going to risk it.
so do you smoke? do you wear lights when you walk in the evening? do you drink alcohol? do you go to gym every other day and eat a perfect diet? do you keep your kid on a leash so she doesnt wander off (americans do this)?
at the end of the day people will do whatever they do, but you need to keep your choices in perspective with one another and recognise irregularities so you can move towards a well-defined set of values rather than letting yourself be brainwashed day upon day based on retarded things like "in 2006 this one time this one judge made this call that i completely disagree with and so do most people but im still gonna go along with it"
its PATHETIC how people let themselves be lead up one street and then the other . you should know what values you believe in and adhere to it. otherwise what worth and integrity do you have? you really are a sheep or a poodle of anyone and everyone around you. you are just a lump of meat taking consolation in your tiny little corner in the world until you die or until your situation forces change, upon which you latch like a leech upon the next control that is set on your head like a collar by some other man
i was actually wrong in my last post to some extent. when we were cave men we had a very social and solidarity lifestyle but, of course, we raped and murdered the shit out of other tribes whenever they came near and then wore their severed heads as relics.
so the same shit happens between nations, it happens between ethnicity, religion, it happens between people who live on one side of a rock and the other, it happens between individuals.
but it is not something we should be advocating after fucking 1 million years of social evolution. we are unique in that we can make our own CHOICE and recognise when we are brainwashed by others and recognised when we are brainwashed by our own emotional state.
that is why millions of people every day say GO FUCK YOURSELF to these dumb fake values and age-old idiocies that we still believe in as if they are the fucking perfect resolution for our confusing lives.
Uh, you're right that we can think for ourselves, and that's exactly what some of us are doing. While there are people who risk their livelihood for a stranger, there are others who weigh the pros and cons. I'd be more inclined to say that the people who rush into everything without a thought are the ones who haven't evolved past primal instinct. The ones calculating the odds are the ones who are actually using their brains.
Again, you only say that cause you've lived a sheltered life, and quiet honestly since we're on this forum, bad at computer games. When someone is about to jump you in the street good luck weighting pros and cons.
What the fuck, this shit disgusts me. You just take a fucking seat on your high horse and look down at everyone who doesnt agree with you, calling them 'sheltered' or even 'scum' what the fuck is wrong with you? You have NO fucking idea what kind of life chinese people have to live. You dont understand that kind of fear being bred and festering in a corrupt environment for years. What the FUCK gives you the right to judge when you never have and probably never WILL be in that exact situation?
lol. I've lived in belarus for half my life. I understand that shit better then you.
I've lived my entire life here in bangladesh, a third world country where law is more for show than use. Trust me, i understand what its like being raised and told from a young age to fear something and avoid it. Maybe not the same things the chinese have learned to fear, but i understand the situation of accepting atrocities as something that WILL happen to you if you dont react a certain way and defend yourself from it. You seem too idealistic to have grown up in a place where 1 mistake could mean you or your family are fucked for life.
I think there is no other way to live, especially in a place like that. When you have nothing, you only have your humanity to live with.
Fucking hell don't walk away, let them try to prove that it's your boots have a tire pattern on them.
And its this kinda naive shit that makes me think that
How is it naive. If they give a fuck about the granny that got knocked over clearly their law system is way more advanced then the one in bangladesh or belarus. If that's not true, by all means, i did mention the option to walk away.
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