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Remenber bad saber laser scenes in past, actors in news movies have learn different martial arts, the special effects are unbelievable not like timeless masterpieces in past, the most interresting story: anakin is coming the famous DarthVador! some good sentences from jedi to remenber, good mix music too, very worked.
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Saber scenes in ep 4-6 roxxors compared to 2-3, 1 is rather exceptional (very good lightsaber combat choreography, but I don't know if it should be this way). I have nothing against special effects in ep 4-6 (only in one scene you were able to spot photomontage) and in 1-3 it's all too flashy imo. I didn't notice much of the story in ep 3, for me it was far too chaotic and dumb to form a story like ep 5 for example. Anakin becoming darth Vader was obvious for everyone who watched old episodes/read the books. I didn't notice any valuable quotes from the jedi in this movie. Good music? They didn't even put Imperial March there T_T. Crap.
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Imperial march is Darth Vader's theme, right? If so, there was a part in the movie where Anakin is talking to the chancellor and it was played as subtle background music.. very well done imo.
I have watched all the star wars previous to watching episode 3, but not having been a big fan back before episode 1 came out, I only watched 4 5 and 6 once, and when I was young, so I remembered very little of the story. I also disliked episode 1 and 2, moreso 2 because of Anakin's angsty teenager part combined with his bad acting.
I was actually very impressed with 3. There were a lot of cheesy/kiddie jokes, which would probably have taken away with the movie if I expected it to be ultra-serious. However I actually enjoyed the comical parts (R2D2 zapping the droid, which goes 'ow' and then kicks over R2 comes to mind). Also, there were quite a few parts of the script that were cheesy as well, however it didn't detract too much from the seriousness of the plot.
The beginning of the movie was okay, but the ending really shone. It was epic and tragic, probably one of the most touching movies I've seen in that respect. I didn't know if Obi-wan won the battle with Anakin, since I had forgotten, so when Anakin and Obi-wan fought, it was actually very suspensful... I knew Anakin lived, but I didn't want Obi-wan to die. When he finally incapacitated Anakin, his lines were very touching.
The part where the Jedi were betrayed and killed, the defeat of Anakin by Obi-wan, and Yoda's line 'Failed, have I'.. really added a great mood to the movie. Also, the tragedy of Anakin, in that by trying to save the one he loved from a fate he foresaw, he doomed her to it, was nicely done.
I went into the movie expecting nothing and prepared to enjoy it for itself, and came out very satisfied.
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I watched all the six movies yesterday. Watching Ep1 and Ep2 all over again, which I tought might be kind of boring, was quite fun. I paid more attension to the politics, something the old episodes don't have, and Palpaltine's double play. During Ep3 the pieces are starting to find their places and the triology needed a good end. To my pleasure it was a good ending. When all the jedi knights were killed it kind of reminded me of the oprea scene in the Godfather triology, which in my opinion was a great move. One of my most emotional scenes in Ep3 was weird enough the joy over seeing a good "old" ship again, it was when the emperor came to save a burning Anikin.
Things I don't like about the new movies:
- The very young anikin.
- The race in Ep1, a scene that would have been ok if it was in the end of a RACINGMOVIE.
- The lines don't live up to old standar.
- They don't fight with the ligtsabers, they dance.
- Too many frontflips/backflips.
- Missing an ironic charecter giving the the movies more perspective, like Han Solo in the old ones.
- The big battle scenes are just battle scenes, no smart tricks, no strategy, just battlescenes.
- The smooth ship.
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The movie was decent if you remove all of the glaring mistakes in it, which this time around were fewer than in Episodes I & II. Like when Mace Windu is about to "kill" Palpatine, and the camera lays on Palpatine for what seems like a full minute, and Palpatine just groans feebly and mouths, "Uhhh...so weak...save me...uhhh...uhhh...uhhh." Also, Hayden Christensen just ain't that dangerous, son. His acting is probably better than in the previous movies, but mainly because all of his lines didn't suck this time around. The Frankenstein allusion at the end made me wince. Darth Vader in full black garb asking if Padme was alright just didn't sit right. Vader would be too badass at that point. You don't need to show constantly that Vader has a little bit of good in him at all these different points in the movie, when he becomes badass let him go, don't keep jumping back over the line.
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On May 22 2005 09:17 A3iL3r0n wrote:
Screw you George Lucas for not casting Snoop Dogg as Mace Windu.
ROFL
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On May 22 2005 09:17 A3iL3r0n wrote:
The Frankenstein allusion at the end made me wince. Darth Vader in full black garb asking if Padme was alright just didn't sit right. Vader would be too badass at that point. You don't need to show constantly that Vader has a little bit of good in him at all these different points in the movie, when he becomes badass let him go, don't keep jumping back over the line.
Agreed. And the "NOOOOOoooooo!" just didn't fit in.
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On May 19 2005 17:25 Chobohobo wrote:
I thought Grievous was a droid at first but then during the close up of his eyes they are clearly organic. And later on I am sure they they show his heart behind the chest plate. Also droids cant use lightsabers because you need to use the force to erect the blade (so sad that I know this, yes).
Then how did han solo use it in the empire strikes back when saving luke?
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Baltimore, USA22254 Posts
On May 22 2005 16:34 cava wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2005 17:25 Chobohobo wrote:
I thought Grievous was a droid at first but then during the close up of his eyes they are clearly organic. And later on I am sure they they show his heart behind the chest plate. Also droids cant use lightsabers because you need to use the force to erect the blade (so sad that I know this, yes). Then how did han solo use it in the empire strikes back when saving luke?
Oh, I missed that post. Yeah, Chobohobo is completely wrong in that regard. 
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On May 22 2005 16:34 cava wrote:Show nested quote +On May 19 2005 17:25 Chobohobo wrote:
I thought Grievous was a droid at first but then during the close up of his eyes they are clearly organic. And later on I am sure they they show his heart behind the chest plate. Also droids cant use lightsabers because you need to use the force to erect the blade (so sad that I know this, yes). Then how did han solo use it in the empire strikes back when saving luke?
All living things are part of the force even if they can't control it directly like a jedi, while droids are not.
Actually I made this up but thats what I thought he meant.
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I didn't read what other ppl said in the other 4 pages, but I didn't like the "NOOOOOOOOO~" scene.
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The part I was dissapointed they did not show was when Anakin goes to the Temple and the "younglings" come to him for help and he busts out the lightsaber. That was sad, but I wanted to see those 5 or 6 little kids fight the most powerful Jedi. That woulda been cool to watch, lol. I also want to see another dual wielding saber Jedi fight like Darth Maul (one of the best saber scenes imo, when qui gon and obi wan fight him 2 on 1). liked the movie alot, hayden's acting didn't get to me, I didn't pay much attention to how is acting was. It was really sad to see all the Jedi getting killed off, like one second they are fighting with them and the next they open fire at close range on them. Like I said, was a good movie please go watch it, Now I wanna see them all over again, except 1 and 2 which are really really boring. 7.7-10
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Can someone answer me why Yoda had to retire? And why didn`t he or Obi train luke, espacially with yoda always complaining about everyone beeing to old and everything leading to the dark side.
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On May 22 2005 18:34 Painbringer wrote:
Can someone answer me why Yoda had to retire? And why didn`t he or Obi train luke, espacially with yoda always complaining about everyone beeing to old and everything leading to the dark side.
hmm, have you seen the older ones? Obi wan ends up like mentoring Luke, and then after obi wan dies, luke goes to get more training from yoda on that swamp planet
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yoda had to retire because he fell thirty stories
and sidious had the higher ground
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Acting was fucking horrendous. Other than that, it was pretty good.
Oh yeah, what role did gen. grievous play in episode 2? I can't seem to remember.
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Woah I never knew people prefer the older and slower lightsabre fights than the newer ones 0_0.
By introducing martial arts, the fighting are much more dynamic and interesting IMO.
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On May 22 2005 20:02 Abang_Zealot wrote:
Woah I never knew people prefer the older and slower lightsabre fights than the newer ones 0_0.
By introducing martial arts, the fighting are much more dynamic and interesting IMO.
Simple, there is no feeling to them.
And although episode 1 was by farrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr the shittiest movie of all 6, I did enjoy the lightsaber duel a lot...
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ep1's ending duel is the best one
On May 22 2005 20:01 Heen wrote:
Acting was fucking horrendous. Other than that, it was pretty good.
Oh yeah, what role did gen. grievous play in episode 2? I can't seem to remember.
grievous did not exist in ep2, he was created by count dooku to command the droid army, and dominated in the clone wars, a series of shorts that aired on cartoon network
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I was kind of dissapointed in the way they made General Grievous. The early screenshots of him made him look so cool- all evil and powerful. But, when you see him with standing with his robe, it is completely different. His stature is all slouched, like an animal, and his coughing made him seem all feeble. It made sense that his voice would be all deep and evil-sounding, but it didn't match too well. They made him seem more human than droid, which was strange. And, even when he did fight, he quickly lost two of his arms, and it was nothing special after that. I had no intention of seeing this movie, but once I saw Grievous's screenshots, and heard that he was a 4-lightsaber wielding robot, I thought that is was such a cool concept, that it would be worth seeing the movie.
But, the one thing that I hated most about the movie was that dog-thing that Obi wan rides on to spy on Grievous. That thing just would not stop barking, and I just had to yell, "Yes!!!" when I saw it go off that cliff. Overall, though Episode three was much better than One and Two, but there were a couple things that they could have done better.
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I liked episode 3. I guess maybe I just 'take things as they are' and don't become so critical. I'm betting the majority of you people that didn't like it went into the movie already feeling negatively about it, right?
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