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symbolic
Profile Joined August 2010
254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 07:52:09
October 12 2011 07:52 GMT
#101
Jason Becker.

Ianuus
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia349 Posts
October 12 2011 07:53 GMT
#102
On October 12 2011 15:38 saocyn wrote:
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On October 12 2011 15:31 Soulriser wrote:
On October 12 2011 15:09 saocyn wrote:
On October 12 2011 15:02 Fishgle wrote:
On October 12 2011 15:00 Eknoid4 wrote:
On October 12 2011 14:56 saocyn wrote:
On October 12 2011 14:47 Soulriser wrote:
On October 12 2011 14:38 saocyn wrote:
On October 12 2011 14:37 Eknoid4 wrote:
I don't really have musical respect for anyone who considers drake talented.


well that's your opinion so you can stay out of this thread.
last i checked he's making millions producing music i think that's talent.


first of all this thread is based on opinion, its not a drake fanclub thread. its a thread about musicians. if he doesnt think drake is talented, then who the fuck are you to tell him his opinion is wrong?
last time i checked, you dont have to make millions to be talented, and you dont have to be talented to make millions.


first off, i honestly don't give a fuck since the guy i named isn't drake. and second, this is a thread i made about music sharing and contribution which you already knew, is based on opinion.
if you have nothing to contribute at the end of the day except support the opinion of a troll, STFU.
how i happen to rationalize why someone is talented or not, is up to me to believe but does not encompass all artists. if this was true the weeknd would be making millions, which he doesn't.
so who the fuck are you to come into this thread, not contribute shit, and think you have a valued opinion?


In a world where facts are irrelevant, Either all opinions are valuable or none are.


QFT

Stop telling him this is an opinion thread if you don't even respect his opinion, OP.

Also, take it to PMs if you're not contributing to the thread. OP, you need to manner up. Drake is awful, so what.


trolls keep feeding trolls love it. you come at me with BM and you expect me to to be GM? lol what fucking world do you live in? let me make it clear for you, this thread is not about who you hate or who you don't think is talented, cause i can go into any music thread and read that bull shit. this is a thread about who you think is good and why. leave your negative opinions out of it. i guess it's asking too much of people to just contribute, respect our differences in taste and leave out the negativity.


honestly, youve been more BM than anyone else in the thread. you told some to gtfo because he didnt agree with you, and youve been a dick to several other people in the thread. there are trolls in every thread, and if youre so adamant about every single one that pops up, and you get pissed off so easily, then youre better off not even making a thread until you can handle it in a mature manner. "i guess it's asking too much of people to just contribute, respect our differences in taste and leave out the negativity" you say to the posters who dont like what you like? makes a whole lotta sense.
and for the record, the musician i love listening to is Buckethead.

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wrong yet again. i have never in this thread out rightly attacked someone based on their differences and preference in taste of music. i love how you can twist the scenario around. in fact i have only openly respected everyone's contribution in music whether or not i may be a fan. and i also love how you can somehow paint someone as guilty of BM because they defended their own opinion or their own taste in music for that matter. you need to look at what's truly "mature" and grow up. cause bashing someone for a certain type of music "makes a whole lotta sense" you truly are the authority on what's good and what's not.


Hey, I like Drake, and even I think you're being quite rude here. Take a step back and look at all the aggression and rage with which you've responded to other people - it's the attitude which people have problems with. Chill out a bit, man. Also, just because other people are BM doesn't mean you get to be BM back at them, unless you're five.

+1 for Yes

Best pianist I've heard without a doubt, expression, clarity, power and ease all in one package: Martha Argerich.




saocyn
Profile Joined July 2011
United States937 Posts
October 12 2011 07:53 GMT
#103


another one i honestly can't stop listening to by the weeknd. he switches his style into rapping with pitch shifts keeping true to this XO or xtasy and oxy overdose.
further more it's about initiating a gang bang with a girl lmfao.
Treadmill
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada2833 Posts
October 12 2011 07:55 GMT
#104
On October 12 2011 16:41 Jerome wrote:
No love for Bobby Mcferrin? TL'ers, you let me down all the time. Bobby Mcferrin plays the human. It is beautiful

Bobby Mcferrin clip



More Bobby Mcferrin

Watched the first clip. Not really on topic but WOW anyways. Bobby McFerrin unfortunately only ever gets remembered for "don't worry be happy" which he knocked off in like an hour just goofing around and somehow became a hit.
Alpino
Profile Joined June 2011
Brazil4390 Posts
October 12 2011 07:57 GMT
#105
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La Sale Famine de Valfunde
20/11/2015 - never forget EE's Ember
DarQraven
Profile Joined January 2010
Netherlands553 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 08:06:01
October 12 2011 08:04 GMT
#106
On October 12 2011 15:44 TheAmazombie wrote:
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On October 12 2011 15:34 rolfe wrote:
On October 12 2011 15:12 TheAmazombie wrote:
This is a hard one...it would most likely be The Mountain Goats. John Darnielle is one of the best flat-out songwriters I have ever heard. each song is a wonderful story in itself. Here is not the best example, but a song that I will always listen to:

[image loading]

i was going to post these too i'm going to offer going to georgia instead though. it could be almost any song though


Yeah, Going to Georgia has been said to be one of the greatest songs ever written by All music Guide. I play that song at my own shows, when I used to play shows a lot. It is so amazing.


Could you try to explain what is so amazing about the song? I've tried searching around to see if this is an acoustic version or something, but apparently it's the original.

To my uninitiated ears, this sounds just like something that someone would play at a campfire after they'd finished playing wonderwall : standard D-A-G chord scheme that's used in about 10.000 other songs(see: this), generic strumming and some lyrics about coming home.

What am I missing?

As for favorites: can I name a duo?
Ludwig van Beethoven and Wilhelm Kempff - brilliant composer and master pianist.
I don't think I've ever heard someone who interprets his music so perfectly: all the right feeling at the right places, nearly silent when it needs to be and powerful when appropriate.

As for Beethoven, while many people will only know him for his 5th symphony (and most of the time only the six opening chords...), what I love most about his work is his piano sonatas. There's a sense of bittersweet drama and emotion in there that is unmatched by any other composers I've heard so far.

I believe many people will be pretty familiar with his Moonlight sonata, first movement.


What many people don't know is that that sonata has three parts;) The 'famous' one is just the first.
Here's the third, showcasing exactly why I think Kempff is so brilliant.
Yes, there are a few mistakes in there, probably attributable to old age. However, the feeling put into this rendition is unlike any others I've seen, where the pianist seems to want to race through it and set a time record.
This man is playing a piece that is almost a constant stream of notes and manages to make it sound quiet, threatening and calm at times. Simply amazing.


I'll probably post something more contemporary when I think about it (and manage to decide between a few alternatives;)).
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
October 12 2011 08:07 GMT
#107
On October 12 2011 15:43 Moshpit wrote:
Andy Mckee!

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Andy Mckee <3

The song "Drifting" is pretty popular on YT, so here are some of his other works:

:)
brum
Profile Joined January 2011
Hungary187 Posts
October 12 2011 08:07 GMT
#108
It's between this and the Cowboy Bebop(Yoko Kanno) OST for me right now. My favourite artist usually changes every month though, but i always go back to listening the old ones.

What a weird clip.
FireEagle
Profile Joined January 2009
Romania171 Posts
October 12 2011 08:07 GMT
#109
This thread needs more Metallica love.




The band with the most classic songs. And one of the best voices ever.
Badboyrune
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden2247 Posts
October 12 2011 08:08 GMT
#110
Buckethead will forever hold a special place in my heart. I feel he's one of the more well rounded guitarists alive today and most probably the most productive.



I'm actually surprised no one mentioned Les Claypool from Primus yet. Guess there's not many bass players around In my mind he's one of the most technically skilled and innovative base players.





Then there's all talent on Candyrat records. You pretty much just have to search for Candyrat on youtube and click a random video to get to listen to some amazing musicians.
Two of my personal favourites are



"If yellow does start SC2, I should start handsomenerd diaper busniess and become a rich man" - John the Translator
rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 08:22:18
October 12 2011 08:10 GMT
#111
Shawn Lane
Possibly the greatest guitarist to ever live, that no one knows about. The man could play piano as well as his guitar. He died in his early 40's because of psoriasis and psoriatic arthritis, which made him hardly able to walk, yet he could play guitar like no ones business.

my favorite solo right here, hes in his really early 20's, and never heard anyone even come close to this. and apprently Billy Gibbons of ZZTop literally fell out of his chair when he saw Shawn play for the first time, said it in some guitar magazine.





and some my favorite songs









and now his piano skills
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48B6QEr6crU&feature=related




http://www.twitch.tv/rebufferingg
rza
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada384 Posts
October 12 2011 08:11 GMT
#112
My favourite group of all time is the Wu Tang, but espacially the RZA
The RZA is the leader of the Wu Tang Clan, he's the head of the Wu with his cousin, the GZA.
In 1993 RZA produce the entire album, Enter the wu tang 36 chambers wich became one of the greatest hip hop album of all time. But things just got started, in 1994-1995 he produce Gza's first album and Raekwon's first album wich they are both also considered some of the best hip hop album of all time. in 1994-95, rza produce tons of albums(he produced solo album to all 9 wu tang members (duh, exept U GOD)and to alot of affilliates, the wu tang killa beez)hes just a master on the sampling machine.
he did music for movies also, kill bill - blade and shits



peace
Until my death, my goal's to stay alive.
rolfe
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom1266 Posts
October 12 2011 08:40 GMT
#113
On October 12 2011 17:04 DarQraven wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2011 15:44 TheAmazombie wrote:
On October 12 2011 15:34 rolfe wrote:
On October 12 2011 15:12 TheAmazombie wrote:
This is a hard one...it would most likely be The Mountain Goats. John Darnielle is one of the best flat-out songwriters I have ever heard. each song is a wonderful story in itself. Here is not the best example, but a song that I will always listen to:

[image loading]

i was going to post these too i'm going to offer going to georgia instead though. it could be almost any song though
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y-xxeSRHuso


Yeah, Going to Georgia has been said to be one of the greatest songs ever written by All music Guide. I play that song at my own shows, when I used to play shows a lot. It is so amazing.


Could you try to explain what is so amazing about the song? I've tried searching around to see if this is an acoustic version or something, but apparently it's the original.

To my uninitiated ears, this sounds just like something that someone would play at a campfire after they'd finished playing wonderwall : standard D-A-G chord scheme that's used in about 10.000 other songs(see: this), generic strumming and some lyrics about coming home.

What am I missing?

the music isn't anything special, its nice enough and suits the song perfectly but its not the point really. in the lyrics i would say i think "The most remarkable thing about coming home to you is the feeling of being in motion again: its the most extraordinary thing in the world" is one my favourite romantic lines ever written. basically though its just a love story written near perfectly love->losing love->boy goes and does something stupid (runs of somewhere in the middle of nowhere with an old gun)->redemption but written so simply yet hinting at wider detail that its really relateable for anyone who's done something stupid for love. one day i'm going to write a blog about the mountain goats on TL i think
life will not be contained. Life breaks free, it expands to new territories and crashes through barriers, painfully, maybe even dangerously but there it is. Life finds a way
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
October 12 2011 08:45 GMT
#114
There's no such thing as a "best" musician. And even if there was, it's laughable to not mention a classical musician.

But not surprising since TL is a SC forum not a music forum.
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
frucisky
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2170 Posts
October 12 2011 08:54 GMT
#115
<3 DongRaeGu <3
Surrealistic
Profile Joined September 2009
311 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 08:56:29
October 12 2011 08:54 GMT
#116
Emil Gilels I think performs the most beautiful Beethoven. All Beethoven Piano sonata fans should have this - Last Piano Sonatas performed by Pollini.. Pollini really brings out the Modern touch, as I think Beethoven originally wanted and was moving his music towards.

On October 12 2011 16:10 Treadmill wrote:
Mark Knopfler. 100%. Got to see him live once and it was the best show I've ever seen (and I've seen some good shows too). I have found maybe 2 people ever who agree with me on this one so w/e.
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On October 12 2011 16:06 Surrealistic wrote:
Django Reinhardt or Van Morrison, while great musicians, aren't improvisers. It's like John Fahey, a lot of people tend to think their works are improvisations but it's all composed.

Did not know this. Van Morrison I have no problem believeing this about but - Django Reinhardt? No improvisation? Even in the Paris Hot Club period? 'Cause Stephane Grappelli was definitely an improviser.

Edit: from wikipedia:
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Reinhardt's problems were compounded by the fact that the Nazis also officially disapproved of jazz. Reinhardt became interested in other musical directions, attempting to write a Mass for the Gypsies and Symphony (since he could not write music, he would perform improvisations to be notated by an assistant). His modernist piece Rhythm Futur was intended to be acceptably unjazzlike.

Maybe that's what you're thinking of. I'm pretty sure Django was an improviser.


Yeah that Wiki entry may be true, though it's unlikely any of those improvisation sessions ever made it onto a proper LP release. The next sentence says his assistant noted it down, so I suppose we can assume he would later revisit them later. But in that sense, all musicians are improvisers. When you talk about improvisation in musical releases, you think of somebody who gets into the studio not knowing what he/she is going to do. In guitar improv, I think Taku Sugimoto, Derek Bailey and Masayuki Takayanagi are the more known names. Check them out, quite different to the clear structure found in Django's music.
DarQraven
Profile Joined January 2010
Netherlands553 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 08:58:42
October 12 2011 08:55 GMT
#117
On October 12 2011 17:45 writer22816 wrote:
There's no such thing as a "best" musician. And even if there was, it's laughable to not mention a classical musician.

But not surprising since TL is a SC forum not a music forum.


True, the meaning of "best" relies entirely on how you define "musician". One could argue that someone with great songwriting skills is a great musician, even if their playing is shit. You could also argue that Yngwie Malmsteen is the undisputed best because he can shred like nobody's business, even though his writing is mostly your standard neo-classical metal fare.

I'd guess the total package is most meaningful.

As for how this thread is interpreted, note the OP says: "If you have to pick one band/artist to listen to for the rest of your life.."

Of course that could somehow throw off the answer given as well - I love porcupine tree but if I listened to them non-stop I'd probably be clinically depressed by now.

Now that I think about it, picking an artist/band instead of a song/piece seems backwards. That just seems to encourage fanboyism about one band/artist instead of it being about the music. There are quite a few songs that are absolutely brilliant, yet the rest of the artists work is utter shit or mediocre at best.
Spekulatius
Profile Joined January 2011
Germany2413 Posts
October 12 2011 08:55 GMT
#118
On October 12 2011 16:10 Treadmill wrote:
Mark Knopfler. 100%. Got to see him live once and it was the best show I've ever seen (and I've seen some good shows too). I have found maybe 2 people ever who agree with me on this one so w/e.


Make that 3.
Always smile~
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
October 12 2011 09:02 GMT
#119
Vienna Teng. Amazingly talented singer-songwriter with lyrics that touch the soul.


Nausea
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden807 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-12 09:11:00
October 12 2011 09:05 GMT
#120


Fantastic vocal control when he was in his prime.
Set it ablaze!
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