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We are extremely close to shutting down this thread for the same reasons the PUA thread was shut down. While some of the time this thread contains actual discussion with people asking help and people giving nice advice, it often gets derailed by rubbish that should not be here. The moderation team will be trying to steer this thread in a different direction from now on.

Posts of the following nature are banned:
1) ANYTHING regarding PUA. If your post contains the words 'alpha' or 'beta' or anything of that sort please don't hit post.
2) Stupid brags. You can tell us about your nice success stories with someone, but posts such as 'lol 50 Tinder matches' are a no-no.
3) Any misogynistic bullshit, including discussion about rape culture.
4) One night stands and random sex. These are basically brags that invariably devolve into gender role discussions and misogynistic comments.

Last chance, guys. This thread is for dating advice and sharing dating stories. While gender roles, sociocultural norms, and our biological imperative to reproduce are all tangentially related, these subjects are not the main purpose of the thread. Please AVOID these discussions. If you want to discuss them at length, go to PMs or start a blog. If you disagree with someone's ideologies, state that you disagree with them and why they won't work from a dating standpoint and move on. We will not tolerate any lengthy derailments that aren't directly about dating.
arb
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Noobville17922 Posts
October 06 2013 18:04 GMT
#5721
On October 06 2013 22:57 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Does anyone else seem to attract strange and bizarre women who have no idea how to behave on dates/around people they don't know well? The last girl I went on a date with spent 10-20 minutes telling me about how she likes Owl's (yes, the bird) and how she had Owl themed bags, clothes and other items and how it is annoying how it's currently cool to like these things (apparently it's cool, who knew?). Then she proceeded to tell me about how she was bullied in school, is scared of needles (along with various accompanying stories of the lengths she's gone to avoid vaccinations/blood tests) and a whole manner of other stories no sane person would ever tell anyone on a first date.

I used to assume that being weird/having no social skills was predominantly the domain of the male population but I increasingly seem to be unknowingly asking out women with these same problems.

More importantly when a date is going shitty and you have no interest at all in the girl because she's weird/annoying/boring/not as attractive as you remembered/all of the above how do you bail at the earliest but not obscenely dickish opportunity?

man introduce me to this girl.
i love owls
Artillery spawned from the forges of Hell
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
October 06 2013 18:22 GMT
#5722
Crazy guys, life is too short and there's too many girls out there to waste my time hearing about owls.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
October 06 2013 18:35 GMT
#5723
On October 07 2013 01:29 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 00:28 SixStrings wrote:
On October 06 2013 22:57 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Does anyone else seem to attract strange and bizarre women who have no idea how to behave on dates/around people they don't know well? The last girl I went on a date with spent 10-20 minutes telling me about how she likes Owl's (yes, the bird) and how she had Owl themed bags, clothes and other items and how it is annoying how it's currently cool to like these things (apparently it's cool, who knew?). Then she proceeded to tell me about how she was bullied in school, is scared of needles (along with various accompanying stories of the lengths she's gone to avoid vaccinations/blood tests) and a whole manner of other stories no sane person would ever tell anyone on a first date.

I used to assume that being weird/having no social skills was predominantly the domain of the male population but I increasingly seem to be unknowingly asking out women with these same problems.

More importantly when a date is going shitty and you have no interest at all in the girl because she's weird/annoying/boring/not as attractive as you remembered/all of the above how do you bail at the earliest but not obscenely dickish opportunity?



Are you kidding me?

I'd love to get to know girls who are passionate about anything, even if it's owls.

It's always the same, the interesting, fun, if a bit weird ones, have boyfriends and I have to make due with the dull party-girls whose only interests are shopping and dressing...

Also, I'm amazed that a native speaker could make two mistakes in a four letter-word.


Maybe that's what you tell yourself or write on your dating profile, but in real life listening to people talk about owls endlessly is boring as shit and were the date not already a sure thing (we had already agreed to hang out at her house afterwards) I would have probably have bailed there and then.

Which word did I misspell?


Maybe I've just had the exact opposite experience you did.

"Hobbies? What am I, twelve?" ._.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
October 06 2013 18:48 GMT
#5724
Well I agree that you don't want some total airhead (unless it's a one night stand) but there's a happy middle ground between Owls and What's a Hobby?
phipsL
Profile Joined November 2012
Germany189 Posts
October 06 2013 18:54 GMT
#5725
On October 07 2013 03:04 arb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 06 2013 22:57 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Does anyone else seem to attract strange and bizarre women who have no idea how to behave on dates/around people they don't know well? The last girl I went on a date with spent 10-20 minutes telling me about how she likes Owl's (yes, the bird) and how she had Owl themed bags, clothes and other items and how it is annoying how it's currently cool to like these things (apparently it's cool, who knew?). Then she proceeded to tell me about how she was bullied in school, is scared of needles (along with various accompanying stories of the lengths she's gone to avoid vaccinations/blood tests) and a whole manner of other stories no sane person would ever tell anyone on a first date.

I used to assume that being weird/having no social skills was predominantly the domain of the male population but I increasingly seem to be unknowingly asking out women with these same problems.

More importantly when a date is going shitty and you have no interest at all in the girl because she's weird/annoying/boring/not as attractive as you remembered/all of the above how do you bail at the earliest but not obscenely dickish opportunity?

man introduce me to this girl.
i love owls


Yes, owl's are cool right now. At least for tattooed people. Almost everyone who is really passionated with tattoos gets an owl tattoo sooner or later. Except me, i want to get a Bat tattoo

No but on topic: why can't I meet a girl like this? Not because this girls seems interesting, but more because I'd really like to tell my friends funny stories about my date. The stories about the girls i meet are usually quite sad and depressing.
I'm a f*cking walking paradox.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-06 18:57:21
October 06 2013 18:56 GMT
#5726
Seriously, what's going on here?

Why do you say 'Owls' or 'owl's' or even 'Owl's'?

Am I missing an inside joke?
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32164 Posts
October 06 2013 18:58 GMT
#5727
i'm missing what is particularly weird about someone who shares their quirky interests and stuff
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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
October 06 2013 19:07 GMT
#5728
yea id rather that then some one tell me they like movies, music, and hanging out with friends

anytime some one says that as their interests I get a huge urge to just disappear
I come in for the scraps
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-06 19:23:29
October 06 2013 19:18 GMT
#5729
On October 07 2013 03:56 SixStrings wrote:
Seriously, what's going on here?

Why do you say 'Owls' or 'owl's' or even 'Owl's'?

Am I missing an inside joke?



He miswrote "owls" as "owl's" so someone jokingly asked what the owl owns since the apostrophe denotes possesion and it goes from there. Explaining jokes sucks.

@Hawk, I agree that someone who has a few quirky interests is more interesting than the typical "i like movies and friends" type of person, but what I assumed from his description was that this particular girl took it too far. It's hard to tell from a text description online so I just took his word for it that she was wierd and tried to answer the question.

The conversation could have just as easily been uninteresting for him because of his lack of investment or inability to steer the conversation a way he would enjoy it. That's the problem with post-fact reports from just one side.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
October 06 2013 19:19 GMT
#5730
On October 07 2013 03:58 QuanticHawk wrote:
i'm missing what is particularly weird about someone who shares their quirky interests and stuff


The Owl's/Owls/owl's were a pretty minor part of the weirdness, but for some reason that's all the people of TL took from my post.

She also told me how she got into a fight at a club last week and probably some other stuff too which I've forgotten.

The key thing to note is that I was actually there can 100% confirm that she was weird and devoid of social graces, which was the point of my post.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
October 06 2013 19:22 GMT
#5731
On October 07 2013 04:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea id rather that then some one tell me they like movies, music, and hanging out with friends

anytime some one says that as their interests I get a huge urge to just disappear


When people tell you that you ask them which movies and music they like and where they like to hang out with friends and then so long as they don't reply with 'all music', 'any films' and 'i'll go anywhere really' interesting conversation ensues.
kaykaykay
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore637 Posts
October 06 2013 19:28 GMT
#5732
obviously the girl was referring to her Ordinary Wizarding Levels.
Starve the ego, feed the soul.
Najda
Profile Joined June 2010
United States3765 Posts
October 06 2013 19:32 GMT
#5733
On October 07 2013 04:22 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea id rather that then some one tell me they like movies, music, and hanging out with friends

anytime some one says that as their interests I get a huge urge to just disappear


When people tell you that you ask them which movies and music they like and where they like to hang out with friends and then so long as they don't reply with 'all music', 'any films' and 'i'll go anywhere really' interesting conversation ensues.


I hate when people respond with "all music." Really, so you like both lil wayne and Mozart? Miley Cirus and Metallica? I usually try to ask something like "what have you been listening to recently" to avoid such vague answeres.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18876 Posts
October 06 2013 19:33 GMT
#5734
On October 07 2013 04:32 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:22 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea id rather that then some one tell me they like movies, music, and hanging out with friends

anytime some one says that as their interests I get a huge urge to just disappear


When people tell you that you ask them which movies and music they like and where they like to hang out with friends and then so long as they don't reply with 'all music', 'any films' and 'i'll go anywhere really' interesting conversation ensues.


I hate when people respond with "all music." Really, so you like both lil wayne and Mozart? Miley Cirus and Metallica? I usually try to ask something like "what have you been listening to recently" to avoid such vague answeres.

All four have redeeming qualities
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
October 06 2013 19:39 GMT
#5735
On October 07 2013 04:32 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:22 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea id rather that then some one tell me they like movies, music, and hanging out with friends

anytime some one says that as their interests I get a huge urge to just disappear


When people tell you that you ask them which movies and music they like and where they like to hang out with friends and then so long as they don't reply with 'all music', 'any films' and 'i'll go anywhere really' interesting conversation ensues.


I hate when people respond with "all music." Really, so you like both lil wayne and Mozart? Miley Cirus and Metallica? I usually try to ask something like "what have you been listening to recently" to avoid such vague answeres.


I usually respond with "you can't possibly like all music" which makes me seem like a jerk...

So I'll probably be stealing your line from now on.
rezoacken
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2719 Posts
October 06 2013 19:40 GMT
#5736
Cirus sure seems full of quality
Either we are alone in the Universe or we are not. Both are equally terrifying.
Deleted User 183001
Profile Joined May 2011
2939 Posts
Last Edited: 2013-10-06 20:08:50
October 06 2013 19:55 GMT
#5737
Bit hungover and bored so why not post something. I've been in LA for a few weeks. Early on, I hit up a bar nearby on a couple occasions and ended up lucky. Then a few days ago, I was put up to the task of getting business done at a party this past Friday night. I was a bit worried since I hadn't done this sort of thing in ages and the girls at the bars were literally straight up sluts looking for any guy that wasn't a dumbass to approach them (in other words, extremely extremely easy).

Friday night comes and I go to the party. The fraternity hosting it were really good men, but it was an open party so of course lots of dumbasses and douches came. I got to work, regardless. One girl I struck up convo with, danced a bit, talked a little bit more, and had some business in the bathroom. I was literally like wtf... because I had never come across a girl this slutty.

Well things got more interesting. Talked to another girl, and I could tell she was interested. She didn't look or act slutty, at least. We talked for like 15 minutes, then I made the mistake of asking her to dance, mainly because I like dancing. Well, then we were dancing. Everyone on the dance floor was literally tryhards (including guys from other frats) and slutty girls with no moves, and some tryhards trying to grind on girls.

She was intrigued by my dancing and moved closer to me and started dirty dancing with me. At first I was like >_> , but then I was like... whatever. So that happened for a while, then we went out back, her sitting on my lap and stuff and making out with me most of that time. Some guys came outside and were cat calling or yelling at us or just getting mad in general. Finally I came to my senses and decided I was gonna go. It was already pretty late, and I hadn't been able to enjoy the party for the party.

Well, didn't exactly work out that way. She left with me, came to my place, and well that was that until the following afternoon. Call me a weird guy, but I'd still much rather be going out with the girl from this summer that I posted about earlier in this thread whose parents intervened, even it meant living 100 miles away, than dealing with these dang sluts.
Aeroplaneoverthesea
Profile Joined April 2012
United Kingdom1977 Posts
October 06 2013 19:59 GMT
#5738
On October 07 2013 04:55 JudicatorHammurabi wrote:
Bit hungover and bored so why not post something. I've been in LA for a few weeks. Early on, I hit up a bar nearby on a couple occasions and ended up lucky. Then a few days ago, I was put up to the task of getting business done at a party this past Friday night. I was a bit worried since I hadn't done this sort of thing in ages and the girls at the bars were literally straight up sluts looking for any guy that wasn't a dumbass to approach them (in other words, extremely extremely easy).

Friday night comes and I go to the party. The fraternity hosting it were really good men, but it was an open party so of course lots of dumbasses and douches came. I got to work, regardless. One girl I struck up convo with, danced a bit, talked a little bit more, and had some business in the bathroom. I was literally like wtf... because I had never come across a girl this slutty.

Well things got more interesting. Talked to another girl, and I could tell she was interested. She didn't look or act slutty, at least. We talked for like 15 minutes, then I made the mistake of asking her to dance, mainly because I like dancing. Well, then we were dancing. Everyone on the dance floor was literally tryhards (including guys from other frats) and slutty girls with no moves, and some tryhards trying to grind on girls.

She was intrigued by my dancing and moved closer to me and started dirty dancing with me. At first I was like >_> , but then I was like... whatever. So that happened for a while, then we went out back, her sitting on my lap and stuff and making out with me most of that time. Some guys came outside and were cat calling or yelling at us or just getting mad in general. Finally I came to my senses and decided I was gonna go. It was already pretty late, and I hadn't been able to enjoy the party for the party.

Well, didn't exactly work out that way. She left with me, came to my place, and well that was that until the following afternoon. Call me a weird guy, but I'd still much rather be going out with the girl from this summer that I posted about earlier in this thread whose parents intervened, even it meant living 100 miles away, then dealing with these dang sluts.


Nice job, house parties are imo by far the best place to pick up girls.
SixStrings
Profile Blog Joined August 2013
Germany2046 Posts
October 06 2013 20:40 GMT
#5739
On October 07 2013 04:32 Najda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 07 2013 04:22 Aeroplaneoverthesea wrote:
On October 07 2013 04:07 VayneAuthority wrote:
yea id rather that then some one tell me they like movies, music, and hanging out with friends

anytime some one says that as their interests I get a huge urge to just disappear


When people tell you that you ask them which movies and music they like and where they like to hang out with friends and then so long as they don't reply with 'all music', 'any films' and 'i'll go anywhere really' interesting conversation ensues.


I hate when people respond with "all music." Really, so you like both lil wayne and Mozart? Miley Cirus and Metallica? I usually try to ask something like "what have you been listening to recently" to avoid such vague answeres.


"Oh you know, top 100."

At that point it becomes really difficult not to assume her favourite movies feature Adam Sandler and that chick from Friends.
KillerSOS
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States4207 Posts
October 06 2013 21:34 GMT
#5740
On October 07 2013 03:56 SixStrings wrote:
Seriously, what's going on here?

Why do you say 'Owls' or 'owl's' or even 'Owl's'?

Am I missing an inside joke?


I'm a nerdy law student making fun of possessives.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Possessive
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