EPT2 US soldiers accused of raping teenagers in Korea - Page 25
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
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NoobCamper
United States22 Posts
Quote the Judge: “While the defendant satisfied his sadistic and perverted sexual desire for three hours, the victim was forced to endure fear and shame at her own home, where she was entitled to have her Peace.” Geez that sounds pretty angry to me. 3 Hours is a long time to be raped. I don't think our armed service is evil or anything, but we should prolly do a better job at keeping the bad apples in the base or something. geez. | ||
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x6.Chouji
United States84 Posts
As a Korean myself I was in Korea for the protests involving the 2 girls getting run over by a truck. Korean's are NOT hating on Americans just because of these incidents. In fact they are well aware that rape, accidental (or not) manslaughter and other crimes should not be affiliated to soldiers and are in fact normal crimes. The real reason they are angry (and frustrated) is because the U.S. Army attempts to cover these incidents and immediately puts the guilty soldiers into their own custody (that being the U.S. Consulate). Koreans feel that the U.S. Government is flexing it's muscles and protecting it's own, while at the same time undermining Korean authority and government. It is a mockery of their own laws and rules that govern such crimes (when the crimes are clearly committed on Korean soil), and it completely gives people the (true) impression that the U.S. Army has power over the Korean government. 10 years is just the U.S. government's pathetic attempt to show good faith and appeal to the masses. Such a crime would have much harsher punishments in Korea, especially when "10 years" usually means 3-6 in American language. =/ Politics. Poor girl will be probably be infamous forever now and scarred for life, not necessarily because of the incident but definitely because of the widespread coverage. | ||
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Blitzkrieg0
United States13132 Posts
A South Korean court sentenced a U.S. soldier to 10 years in prison Tuesday for raping a teenage girl I guess the us government runs the South Korean courts eh x6.Chouji? | ||
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Crisium
United States1618 Posts
On November 03 2011 05:33 x6.Chouji wrote: 10 years is just the U.S. government's pathetic attempt to show good faith and appeal to the masses. Such a crime would have much harsher punishments in Korea, especially when "10 years" usually means 3-6 in American language. Please re-read the article: "A South Korean court sentenced an American Army private to 10 years in prison on Tuesday for raping an 18-year-old South Korean woman, the most severe such ruling in almost 20 years." There's no US Trial here. The US handed over the soldier to Korean authorities and the Korean court system concluded that 10 years is an acceptable punishment. edit: Ninja'd, but the point stands. | ||
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NoobCamper
United States22 Posts
On November 03 2011 05:33 x6.Chouji wrote: I don't think you guys seem to understand: As a Korean myself I was in Korea for the protests involving the 2 girls getting run over by a truck. Korean's are NOT hating on Americans just because of these incidents. In fact they are well aware that rape, accidental (or not) manslaughter and other crimes should not be affiliated to soldiers and are in fact normal crimes. The real reason they are angry (and frustrated) is because the U.S. Army attempts to cover these incidents and immediately puts the guilty soldiers into their own custody (that being the U.S. Consulate). Koreans feel that the U.S. Government is flexing it's muscles and protecting it's own, while at the same time undermining Korean authority and government. It is a mockery of their own laws and rules that govern such crimes (when the crimes are clearly committed on Korean soil), and it completely gives people the (true) impression that the U.S. Army has power over the Korean government. 10 years is just the U.S. government's pathetic attempt to show good faith and appeal to the masses. Such a crime would have much harsher punishments in Korea, especially when "10 years" usually means 3-6 in American language. =/ Politics. Poor girl will be probably be infamous forever now and scarred for life, not necessarily because of the incident but definitely because of the widespread coverage. Well is kinda our countryies duty to protect our citizens formost, even criminals I guess. Also our Max sentence for Rape is the US is bout 18 years with a min of bout 8 years. 10 years is about right for rape (at least legally). He got tried and Korea and sentenced in Korea. 10 years is still a long time to serve in jail. I think this actually is one of the rare cases where some justice has been served. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
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yoonyoon
Korea (South)1065 Posts
On November 03 2011 05:33 x6.Chouji wrote: 10 years is just the U.S. government's pathetic attempt to show good faith and appeal to the masses. Such a crime would have much harsher punishments in Korea, especially when "10 years" usually means 3-6 in American language. Are you kidding me? The average incarceration | ||
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Taug
United States146 Posts
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Gigaudas
Sweden1213 Posts
Why is debating or stating your opinion more about rhetorics or emotion than what it should be - about logic (statistics and numbers). Basing a statement such as "What the fuck is wrong with soldiers today..." on this event is, if not a lie, an attempt to mislead or just a failure to think rationally. This is a case of two people being morons. The punishment turned out to be severe (more sever than normally due to political reasons) but this is not an issue with U.S. troop presence. | ||
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Playguuu
United States926 Posts
On November 03 2011 05:33 x6.Chouji wrote: I don't think you guys seem to understand: As a Korean myself I was in Korea for the protests involving the 2 girls getting run over by a truck. Korean's are NOT hating on Americans just because of these incidents. In fact they are well aware that rape, accidental (or not) manslaughter and other crimes should not be affiliated to soldiers and are in fact normal crimes. The real reason they are angry (and frustrated) is because the U.S. Army attempts to cover these incidents and immediately puts the guilty soldiers into their own custody (that being the U.S. Consulate). Koreans feel that the U.S. Government is flexing it's muscles and protecting it's own, while at the same time undermining Korean authority and government. It is a mockery of their own laws and rules that govern such crimes (when the crimes are clearly committed on Korean soil), and it completely gives people the (true) impression that the U.S. Army has power over the Korean government. 10 years is just the U.S. government's pathetic attempt to show good faith and appeal to the masses. Such a crime would have much harsher punishments in Korea, especially when "10 years" usually means 3-6 in American language. =/ Politics. Poor girl will be probably be infamous forever now and scarred for life, not necessarily because of the incident but definitely because of the widespread coverage. Some excellent points. I think I'm going to stop watching the news. There is far too much fucked up shit that happens - people getting raped, kidnapped, imprisoned and tortured for years, murders - the list is endless for morally reprehensible bullshit. | ||
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Xcobidoo
Sweden1871 Posts
OnT: Sad but then again, there's bound to be bad people among that many | ||
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a7choi
United States1664 Posts
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Gigaudas
Sweden1213 Posts
On November 03 2011 05:33 x6.Chouji wrote: I don't think you guys seem to understand: As a Korean myself I was in Korea for the protests involving the 2 girls getting run over by a truck. Korean's are NOT hating on Americans just because of these incidents. In fact they are well aware that rape, accidental (or not) manslaughter and other crimes should not be affiliated to soldiers and are in fact normal crimes. The real reason they are angry (and frustrated) is because the U.S. Army attempts to cover these incidents and immediately puts the guilty soldiers into their own custody (that being the U.S. Consulate). Koreans feel that the U.S. Government is flexing it's muscles and protecting it's own, while at the same time undermining Korean authority and government. It is a mockery of their own laws and rules that govern such crimes (when the crimes are clearly committed on Korean soil), and it completely gives people the (true) impression that the U.S. Army has power over the Korean government. 10 years is just the U.S. government's pathetic attempt to show good faith and appeal to the masses. Such a crime would have much harsher punishments in Korea, especially when "10 years" usually means 3-6 in American language. =/ Politics. Poor girl will be probably be infamous forever now and scarred for life, not necessarily because of the incident but definitely because of the widespread coverage. Should've read this before posting (my post is four posts above). My point still applies to a lot of people in this thread though. | ||
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AlmightyJoker
United States48 Posts
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tomatriedes
New Zealand5356 Posts
The Uijeongbu District Court on Tuesday sentenced a 21-year-old U.S. Army private of the 2nd U.S. Infantry Division to 10 years in prison. ... The 10-year sentence on him was the heaviest penalty ever handed down to a U.S. serviceman since the 2001 revision of the Status of Forces Agreement. Under the revised SOFA, Korea now can ask the U.S. military to hand over custody of suspects in 12 major crimes such as murder, rape, and drug trafficking when they are indicted. In the past, Korea was only able to ask for custody of such suspects only after court proceedings were completed. ... The soldier will serve his term in a Korean penitentiary. http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2011/11/02/2011110200635.html 10 years seems to be a decent length of time for rape to me and it will be in a Korean jail so I'm sure it won't be an easy stint for him. | ||
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Grettin
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Paperplane
Netherlands1823 Posts
The soldier will serve his term in a Korean penitentiary Oh boy. That's a good deterrent. I think we'll see every other soldier behave perfectly now ^^ | ||
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BlackJack
United States10574 Posts
On November 03 2011 05:42 GreEny K wrote: What the fuck is wrong with soldiers today... You must be joking | ||
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Ocedic
United States1808 Posts
On November 03 2011 05:56 Taug wrote: I don't get why he gets a lesser sentence because it was his 'first' time. The first act of rape happened in his head (the planning) , the second act was him raping her and threatening to kill her. He should get minimum 25 yrs. I think this is a terrible crime, but your logic is not sound and actually dangerous. Basically you're talking about Orwellian thought crime here. No, he did not commit rape by thinking about it. | ||
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