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labcoated
Profile Joined May 2005
Canada392 Posts
May 08 2005 12:17 GMT
#341
my hot pockets come out crispy. i think you are projecting the failings of your microwave (or perhaps your father figure) onto others
Chris307
Profile Joined June 2004
3095 Posts
May 08 2005 12:58 GMT
#342
Is it just me or does labcoated sound like he's about 54 years old in every post he makes
PUSH DICE CUP BACK AND I SHOOT CRAP
Keanu_Reaver
Profile Joined March 2003
Djibouti1432 Posts
May 08 2005 13:09 GMT
#343
On May 07 2005 03:17 Casper... wrote:
and lewis is a monster
he will avg 24/7/2 against the spurs


19/4/1

WHAT NOW BITCH
why did the baby cross the road? because it was stapled to the chicken!
FroST(TE)
Profile Joined September 2004
United States909 Posts
May 08 2005 13:13 GMT
#344
i pick me just because im smart.
PoorUser on LP
Smurg
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3818 Posts
May 08 2005 13:54 GMT
#345
On May 08 2005 00:24 ihatett wrote:
smurg, i think you are taking this a bit too far kind of like sticking your penis into a microwave expecing it to get bigger, but it falls off or something

Well for a start: no.

Analogies are meant to make sense...kind of like the cheese in "Cheese & Ham" or salt in the "Salt & Vinegar" or the bop in the "bop shoo op shoo op".

I'm not taking anything too far, it wasn't my idea to start a fan club. I just support it...since it was founded, and it is in all respects about Smurg and Smurgenity. I am Smurg, so of course I uphold those fundamentals.

Oh, and for those not quick enough to pick up sarcasm, I am joking. I don't believe I'm the smartest person/poster on the site. You cannot define someone as 'the smartest', as 'smartness' is intangible...a substance that exists within each human...(for the most part). Intelligence can be shown, but most people have moments of intelligence. Maybe some are older/wiser than others because they have experience in a certain area.

For the record: I'm the smartest.
Cloud
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Sexico5880 Posts
May 09 2005 07:19 GMT
#346
On May 05 2005 08:22 SuNDAnce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2005 18:09 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:
On May 04 2005 18:01 Liquid`Drone wrote:
your_killer, you should definitely have stayed out.
but I'll break it down to you

if there are 100 doors and only one is the correct one, you have a 1% chance of picking the correct door out of all 100
you get this part, right?
now if you then remove 98 doors and one of the two remaining ones is correct, and the initial door you picked would only be correct 1% of the time, then the other door is obviously correct 99% of the time.

I actually didn't even make it that much easier to understand, frankly I don't see why you're having problems with it. I mean, the entire point with using 100 doors is that it should be easy to understand for anyone, unlike the original scenario with three doors, where I could understand why people would get it wrong.


i wasn't going to respond to any of them, but eh.

the main part wrong with that logic is this. "now if you then remove 98 doors and one of the two remaining ones is correct". if you remove a bunch of possibilities from the original pool, the probability does NOT stay the same. originally, with 100 doors, each one has a 1% chance of being correct. now when you remove 98 of them, how can you argue that the one you didnt pick remains at 1%, while yours is 99? its the same logic you're using.

'one of the two remaining ones is correct'. one in two is 50%. there is no reason why the other door would have a higher probability of being correct. the door you picked doesn't magically stay at 1% while the other door becomes 99%. if you believe thats true, the one you didn't pick could just as easily be 1%, and the one you picked could be 99%. your choice doesn't have a bearing on its chances. as i said, removing some of the possibilities from the pool CHANGES all of the probability completely.

OMG next time get some basics of probability and then come back and argue.


That is entirely wrong Drone, if you have 100 doors and 1 has the price but you dont know which one has it each one has 1/100(1%) of probabilities of having it, if you remove one, yet you still dont know which one has the price it doesnt change at all, say you draw a line between the one you separated and the other 99, the probability is the same, 1/100 for each one, it doesnt change, the 99% of probability comes if you intend to open every single door except the one you separated, so you are opening 99 doors out of 100(99/100->99%). Now imagine when you wake up there are 3 chances, that the day will be sunny, windy or that it will rain(and that it will remain like that for the rest of the day). Imagine that the moment you go out you see clouds, you have to discard sunny, because it can't be sunny when there are clouds, so you are left with windy and rainy, since you only have now 2 factors, you can only divide between those factors, you cant divide between 3 since it cant be sunny, so it will be 1/2(50%) for each factor that you are taking into consideration, 50% for rainy and 50% for windy. In summary the moment you woke up sunny had 1/3(33%) chances of being, just the same as windy or rainy, but when you see that it cannot be sunny(i.e you open 1 door and you see that that door doens't have the price) the possibilities of the other 2 increase equally.
So if you have 100 doors and you separate 1, sure you are left with 99 in one side and with 1 in the other, but since you dont know which one has the price, each one has still 1/100 of probabilities, since you are taking 1 from the 100 available doors, if you open 1 and you see that it doesn't have the price, then you remove it and you have 99 doors left, which one holds the price, so each one has a 1/99 probabilities of having it, if you remove 2, of the remaining 98 each one will have 1/98, when you open 98, you have 2 doors, one of them has the price so the probability is 1/2, sorry for my english i hope i made it clear, i think there was a guy called Bayes that talked about probability and proved the same stuff im saying, though with a different example.
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
May 09 2005 07:42 GMT
#347
On May 09 2005 16:19 BCloud wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2005 08:22 SuNDAnce wrote:
On May 04 2005 18:09 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:
On May 04 2005 18:01 Liquid`Drone wrote:
your_killer, you should definitely have stayed out.
but I'll break it down to you

if there are 100 doors and only one is the correct one, you have a 1% chance of picking the correct door out of all 100
you get this part, right?
now if you then remove 98 doors and one of the two remaining ones is correct, and the initial door you picked would only be correct 1% of the time, then the other door is obviously correct 99% of the time.

I actually didn't even make it that much easier to understand, frankly I don't see why you're having problems with it. I mean, the entire point with using 100 doors is that it should be easy to understand for anyone, unlike the original scenario with three doors, where I could understand why people would get it wrong.


i wasn't going to respond to any of them, but eh.

the main part wrong with that logic is this. "now if you then remove 98 doors and one of the two remaining ones is correct". if you remove a bunch of possibilities from the original pool, the probability does NOT stay the same. originally, with 100 doors, each one has a 1% chance of being correct. now when you remove 98 of them, how can you argue that the one you didnt pick remains at 1%, while yours is 99? its the same logic you're using.

'one of the two remaining ones is correct'. one in two is 50%. there is no reason why the other door would have a higher probability of being correct. the door you picked doesn't magically stay at 1% while the other door becomes 99%. if you believe thats true, the one you didn't pick could just as easily be 1%, and the one you picked could be 99%. your choice doesn't have a bearing on its chances. as i said, removing some of the possibilities from the pool CHANGES all of the probability completely.

OMG next time get some basics of probability and then come back and argue.


That is entirely wrong Drone, if you have 100 doors and 1 has the price but you dont know which one has it each one has 1/100(1%) of probabilities of having it, if you remove one, yet you still dont know which one has the price it doesnt change at all, say you draw a line between the one you separated and the other 99, the probability is the same, 1/100 for each one, it doesnt change, the 99% of probability comes if you intend to open every single door except the one you separated, so you are opening 99 doors out of 100(99/100->99%). Now imagine when you wake up there are 3 chances, that the day will be sunny, windy or that it will rain(and that it will remain like that for the rest of the day). Imagine that the moment you go out you see clouds, you have to discard sunny, because it can't be sunny when there are clouds, so you are left with windy and rainy, since you only have now 2 factors, you can only divide between those factors, you cant divide between 3 since it cant be sunny, so it will be 1/2(50%) for each factor that you are taking into consideration, 50% for rainy and 50% for windy. In summary the moment you woke up sunny had 1/3(33%) chances of being, just the same as windy or rainy, but when you see that it cannot be sunny(i.e you open 1 door and you see that that door doens't have the price) the possibilities of the other 2 increase equally.
So if you have 100 doors and you separate 1, sure you are left with 99 in one side and with 1 in the other, but since you dont know which one has the price, each one has still 1/100 of probabilities, since you are taking 1 from the 100 available doors, if you open 1 and you see that it doesn't have the price, then you remove it and you have 99 doors left, which one holds the price, so each one has a 1/99 probabilities of having it, if you remove 2, of the remaining 98 each one will have 1/98, when you open 98, you have 2 doors, one of them has the price so the probability is 1/2, sorry for my english i hope i made it clear, i think there was a guy called Bayes that talked about probability and proved the same stuff im saying, though with a different example.



omg dude you are one dumb fellow, you disgrace mexico.
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
11739 Posts
May 09 2005 07:46 GMT
#348
BCloud, 99/100 times you will have picked wrong. Therefore, 99/100 times the other door will be right. What the fuck is so hard about that?
I'm never gonna know you now \ But I'm gonna love you anyhow.
ihatett
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2289 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-09 10:20:48
May 09 2005 07:52 GMT
#349
You might be retarded.

Your weather anology is way off:

In your example, the chances are narrowed down from the entire group. In the door analogy, the chances are narrowed down from the chances that you did not choose. The weather problem is fundamentally flawed because no matter what you originally chose, seing the sun out will narrow the field what what you chose and did not choose.



edit: stop arguing against this, it has been proven so many times... just try my card test if you can't see logic
I love Protoss because it is tough and straight. Protoss is the race for men.
teh leet newb
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1999 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-09 07:56:13
May 09 2005 07:55 GMT
#350
On May 06 2005 15:54 camooT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 05 2005 18:01 teh leet newb wrote:
Empyrean is gosu at piano... 3rd place at an international piano competition and he played at Carnegie Hall in New York (lives in US). I live near him

That really impresses me. Does he compose as well?


Nope, Empyrean is 14 Don't tell him I posted this and don't show him this thread or else he'll probably get mad at me for telling... He's really modest about his piano skills.
"The best argument against democracy is a five-minute conversation with the average voter." - Winston Churchill
Smurg
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Australia3818 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-09 09:36:32
May 09 2005 09:28 GMT
#351
On May 09 2005 16:52 ihatett wrote:edit: stop arguing against this, it has been proven so many times... just try my card test if you can't see logic

If you want to see some logic. How's this for logic?

*It is known that the universe is infinite.

*Since the universe is infinite and we are part of Earth as a small speck of nothingness on a speck of nothingness compared to the universe in size, there are sure to be other worlds out there with life forms on them - even sentient beings.

*We are sentient beings in our small sector of unfathomable littleness.

*So there is an infinite possibility that there are other sentient beings in other parts of the universe.

*Since they are capable of thought, some are likely to have hatred towards other lifeforms and the want to destroy them - we would be part of that as we fall into the category of targets of these xenophobes.

*Since there is an infinite amount of space in the universe and it is constantly expanding, by the laws of logic, there would be an infinite amount of sentient beings who want to kill us.

*Since the population of Earth is just over 6 billion, we can compare that said 6 billion to infinity. In which we find infinity is much, much, much larger and we pale in comparison to such size.

*To sum it all up, there are an infinite amount of lifeforms who want to kill you ihatett.

On May 09 2005 16:52 ihatett wrote:
You might be retarted.

Edit: Retarted? What? Retart...? Sounds like a breakfast snack. Mmm 'Crispy Wheat Retarts with Honey ©'.
ihatett
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2289 Posts
Last Edited: 2005-05-09 10:22:16
May 09 2005 10:21 GMT
#352
thanks for pointing out my typo, check my other posts if you don't believe I know how to spell that word

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I love Protoss because it is tough and straight. Protoss is the race for men.
1tym
Profile Joined April 2005
Korea (South)2425 Posts
May 09 2005 10:46 GMT
#353
The most intelligent person on TL.net is Jangsh..
but u just fail to realise it because of the language barrier..
1tym is one time for your mind
Chibi[OWNS]
Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
May 09 2005 10:47 GMT
#354
--- Nuked ---
ihatett
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2289 Posts
May 09 2005 10:58 GMT
#355
*We are sentient beings in our small sector of unfathomable littleness.

*So there is an infinite possibility that there are other sentient beings in other parts of the universe.


nope
I love Protoss because it is tough and straight. Protoss is the race for men.
labcoated
Profile Joined May 2005
Canada392 Posts
May 09 2005 12:56 GMT
#356
"smartest poster" can refer to:

the poster who is the smartest
the poster who posts the smartest

i thought i had more ideas than that. fuck. 2 it is.
lurendreieren
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway59 Posts
May 10 2005 01:39 GMT
#357
As far as logic goes, something that is infinite cannot be both infite and still expanding, no?

And nothing is really known about the size of the universe, we can only speculate
Clutch3
Profile Joined April 2003
United States1344 Posts
May 10 2005 01:53 GMT
#358

For people still arguing about Monty Hall, I think Jamers had a post a loooong time ago which cleared this up. To paraphrase: The situation where Monty knows which doors are wrong and the situation where you RANDOMLY pick 98 wrong doors are totally different. In one case 99/100 is the right answer, and in the other it's 50/50. Therefore, you have to state what the actual situation is before you argue about it.

Unfortunately, no one defined it before this whole problem sprung up again, and so different people are working from different initial conditions. People who flame other people for "being retarded" without realizing this need to realize it before we waste any more time.

As an aside, one way to make sure there's only one right answer and that it's not a case of two people working from different assumptions is to PROVE the person's argument invalid rather than just calling them an idiot. If you can't find any holes in your argument or in theirs, and they still yield different answers, chances are they are working from different rules.


Sp2Hydradized
Profile Joined April 2005
United States60 Posts
May 10 2005 01:53 GMT
#359
It is not known for sure whether or not the universe is infinite.

Also, in order for there to be an infinite number of beings, there would need to be an infinite mass, which we do know is not the case.
ihatett
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2289 Posts
May 10 2005 02:04 GMT
#360
On May 10 2005 10:53 Clutch3 wrote:

For people still arguing about Monty Hall, I think Jamers had a post a loooong time ago which cleared this up. To paraphrase: The situation where Monty knows which doors are wrong and the situation where you RANDOMLY pick 98 wrong doors are totally different. In one case 99/100 is the right answer, and in the other it's 50/50. Therefore, you have to state what the actual situation is before you argue about it.

Unfortunately, no one defined it before this whole problem sprung up again, and so different people are working from different initial conditions. People who flame other people for "being retarded" without realizing this need to realize it before we waste any more time.

As an aside, one way to make sure there's only one right answer and that it's not a case of two people working from different assumptions is to PROVE the person's argument invalid rather than just calling them an idiot. If you can't find any holes in your argument or in theirs, and they still yield different answers, chances are they are working from different rules.




You must have missed the second part of my post.
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