EPTI almost forgot . not necessarily intellectual , but intense, and very very good imho, really to put it simply, it is a modern masterpiece
actually I am going to watch it right now
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MrProphylactic
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I almost forgot . not necessarily intellectual , but intense, and very very good imho, really to put it simply, it is a modern masterpiece actually I am going to watch it right now | ||
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LilClinkin
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MarCoon
Germany493 Posts
On December 30 2010 10:11 simpy wrote: El Topo and Holy Mountain - Both directed, written and designed by the Chillien genius Alejandro Jodorowsky, I can't explain what happens but you must see El Topo first and be warned, these films aren't for anyone who isn't willing to commit to them. I recommend putting on the Director's Commentary for both El Topo and Holy Mountain after watching it a first time... It can help you understand it in a completely different way as to the way you first saw it! Ed Wood - A classic cult film directed by Tim Burton, the references are incredibly subtle and are easily missed if you don't pay close attention this film is a quasi biography on Ed Wood (the worst director in Hollywood), starring good ole' Johnny Depp back in the his earlier, less "mainstream" days. Slacker - A interesting look on a group of social outcasts and eccentrics who live in Austin, Texas. It's basically a whole lot of different life philosophies all tied together in some chaotic, random sequence which moves pretty seemlessly from one story to the next. Not all of these are "intellectual" but they do provide a different look on different situations. If you are looking for something not so "easy" to watch, these can be very rewarding. Enjoy! The Holy Mountain is in no way intellectual. It's one of those sick 70s movies where you sit there after it and you're not even sure what that even was what you just saw. I am sure that Jodorowsky took some LSD while "writing" the "story" for this one. I am not saying that the film isn't good in the way that it is "art", but it's in no way a film that has a story that could make you think about something. This ofcourse could just be me, but I watched so many movies and this movie is good in the cinematographic sense, but not in any way that it's intellectual. | ||
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red_hq
Canada450 Posts
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Asdkmoga
United States496 Posts
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Deadlyhazard
United States1177 Posts
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NEWater
Singapore178 Posts
Movie's about dreams and discusses various aspects of it. One of the most intriguing bits of the movie was how the main character remarked that the internet and dreams share the same quality of giving rise to the repressed subconscious. It puts Inception to shame. Inception had to introduce militarized "projections" in the dream worlds so that the movie could be kept interesting with all the gunfights. Paprika managed to capture my interest throughout the whole movie without needing to rely on such cheap tricks. | ||
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zobz
Canada2175 Posts
On December 30 2010 08:18 XeliN wrote: Papillion is a great film. "Intellectual" is a pretty vague concept for films, with films I mostly like a believable and compelling narrative. with Saw i think it does provoke thought on morality in an interesting way. Acts which would almost universally be considered heinous and immoral are justified by a moral undertone. This juxtuposition forces you to question ideas of ethics and morality and also does quite a good job of showing their tenuous nature and in doing so displays one of the largest critiques of moral relativism. The point to this? Most of the burden falls on us the viewer and not the film itself to provoke intellectual considerations. You seem to be saying that all movies are equally good and that it's up to the viewer to find a way to appretiate everything, equally. What then is the purpose of a piece of art? Real life is full of things to experience and reflect upon, we don't need the creations of other men to provide us that. The point is supposed to be to present that which most essentially can only be provided by another person, ideas, and to present specifically those ideas which can't be provided by just anybody, good ideas. Yes some art can be better than other, and some people are better at making art than others, what a novel idea. Saw certainly does provoke something, but not particularly a respect for the people who made it, especially when the criteria for judgement is intellectuality. Just because you can think about something if you want to does not give it intellectual merit. | ||
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simpy
Australia29 Posts
On December 30 2010 10:24 MarCoon wrote: The Holy Mountain is in no way intellectual. It's one of those sick 70s movies where you sit there after it and you're not even sure what that even was what you just saw. I am sure that Jodorowsky took some LSD while "writing" the "story" for this one. I am not saying that the film isn't good in the way that it is "art", but it's in no way a film that has a story that could make you think about something. This ofcourse could just be me, but I watched so many movies and this movie is good in the cinematographic sense, but not in any way that it's intellectual. Thats why I said not all of them are intellectual  to quote my first post "Not all of these are "intellectual" but they do provide a different look on different situations. If you are looking for something not so "easy" to watch, these can be very rewarding." EDIT: And yes, he was very much into changing his (and the cast's) state of mind to further his art. | ||
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YejinYejin
United States1053 Posts
On December 30 2010 10:30 red_hq wrote: Primer, has to do about the effects of time travel and the like. It is a very low budget indy movie but the script and acting considering is very very good. Shit, I've already watched this twice and I still don't completely understand it. I definitely recommend this movie, though. Quite the mindfuck. | ||
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aDawg
United States30 Posts
Inception. Seen it three times, and Im still finding little things I overlooked before. | ||
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MrProphylactic
296 Posts
edit : interesting little trivial tidbit >< edit , to throw another obvious Kurosawa film out there " Ran" although it may not be a pure " intellectual film" Its cinematography is unparalleled . surprised no one has got to Kurosawa yet , or lynch by the time I had a few pages back ... | ||
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MrProphylactic
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UberThing
Great Britain410 Posts
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MrProphylactic
296 Posts
On December 30 2010 11:13 UberThing wrote: Debbie does Dallas. I have never been so intellectually stimulated (let alone physically stimulated) by a film. definitely stimulating , to one of my heads | ||
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MarCoon
Germany493 Posts
On December 30 2010 10:59 MrProphylactic wrote: " Rashomon " is a must if you want movies based on different perception as it is THE classic version of this theme , as well as made by the master of film-craft himself, Akira Kurosawa , as a matter of fact it spawned the term " a Rashomon effect " edit : interesting little trivial tidbit >< edit , to throw another obvious Kurosawa film out there " Ran" although it may not be a pure " intellectual film" Its cinematography is unparalleled . surprised no one has got to Kurosawa yet , or lynch by the time I had a few pages back ... Not many people would watch Kurosawa movies nowadays, because they seem "old" so I guess that's why no one mentioned him and when it comes to Lynch then you gotta admit that his movies get more weird over the years but indeed is a good director. | ||
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MrProphylactic
296 Posts
On December 30 2010 11:15 MarCoon wrote: Not many people would watch Kurosawa movies nowadays, because they seem "old" so I guess that's why no one mentioned him and when it comes to Lynch then you gotta admit that his movies get more weird over the years but indeed is a good director. Yeah Kurosawa would not be currently mainstream, I didn't think that was the requisite of the OP . Any serious film buff most certainty would be well aware of him . Or anyone that is a film appreciator, or even a novice just getting started should want to be made aware of these directors which started it all . which is what I thought this thread was for . Anyone educated in film would name him among the first 50 best filmmakers EVER and most likely top 10 . He was voted as high as the 6th greatest director of all time by Entertainment Weekly numerous times . Just found it odd movies like inception are making the grade , but some of the best films in history are being left out . Well also perception became one of the "subset" intellectual themes people were identifying with the last few pages ,. When it comes to perception " Rashomon" is THE ORIGINAL film | ||
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luckyseven
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On December 30 2010 10:30 Asdkmoga wrote: Donnie Darko, as posted before, but i would like to bring more notice to this as it is my all time favorite movie ever, and blows my mind everytime i pretend to understand it / reread explanations online the last explanation i read suggested that almost the entire movie was Donnie dreaming and everything in his dream/the movie related to his pent up taboo attraction for his older sister... | ||
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MarCoon
Germany493 Posts
On December 30 2010 11:24 MrProphylactic wrote: + Show Spoiler + On December 30 2010 11:15 MarCoon wrote: Not many people would watch Kurosawa movies nowadays, because they seem "old" so I guess that's why no one mentioned him and when it comes to Lynch then you gotta admit that his movies get more weird over the years but indeed is a good director. Yeah Kurosawa would not be currently mainstream, I didn't think that was the requisite of the OP . Any serious film buff most certainty would be well aware of him . Or anyone that is a film appreciator, or even a novice just getting started should want to be made aware of these directors which started it all . which is what I thought this thread was for . Anyone educated in film would name him among the first 50 best filmmakers EVER and most likely top 10 . He was voted as high as the 6th greatest director of all time by Entertainment Weekly numerous times . Just found it odd movies like inception are making the grade , but some of the best films in history are being left out . Well also perception became one of the "subset" intellectual themes people were identifying with the last few pages ,. When it comes to perception " Rashomon" is THE ORIGINAL film I totally agree with you that he is one of the Top Directors of all time, but if you're not a film enthusiast you don't know about movies and Directors like that. You know about the guys from your "generation" that made movies resembling that style, but not the guys that actually invented something like this. Directors that come to mind that used similar techniques are Nolan and Noe from the top of my head and only one of those went on to "feature" films so people that see one of his feature films may also watch some of his older work. Inception gets such a great grade because it is for example one of the newer movies that are good and thus is more publicly accepted and is accessible to a broader audience right now. You can bring up so many names that revolutionized cinema and many people have no idea who they are since they wouldn't like to watch they're "old" stuff. That's just how people are nowadays and it is kinda sad :/ | ||
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majestouch
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