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JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
February 08 2010 07:02 GMT
#181
Lord of War :D
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Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
February 08 2010 07:31 GMT
#182
On February 08 2010 15:34 jalstar wrote:
Avatar


Dude, avatar is probably the least subtle, most standard hollywood movie I have seen in the last few years. Honestly man, it's message is shoved down your throat so incredibly hard I can't imagine a monkey finding it intellectually stimulating.
Suffir
Profile Joined December 2010
United States1 Post
December 29 2010 21:33 GMT
#183
Here are all of the movies spoken about that ive seen.
I've categorized them by pseudo genre - many of them fit 3 or more.
Ratings: (I'll try to be unbiased, but we know that's impossible)
Great = ++ Good = + Mediocre = - and if didn't belong on here in the first place, nothing.
This is based on the film as a whole, I may favor intellectuality.

Intellectual
12 Monkies++ (Sci-fi Cult Classic)
21 grams+
A beautiful mind++ (Emotional, schizophrenic, delusional, brilliant)
A Space Odyssey 2001++ (Kubrick classic)
Adaptation+
Butterfly Effect- (So much potential...)
Dark City++ (Cult classic)
Donnie Darko++ (Cult classic)
Eternal Sunshine of a Spotless Mind++ (Funny, weird, colorful and emotional)
Eyes Wide Shut+ (too slow)
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas++ (Drug classic)
Fight Club++ (If you haven't seen this... now.)
Identity+
Jacob's Ladder++ (Madness)
Magnolia++ (Weird and twisted at times. Funny, pretty much covers everything)
Mulholland Drive++ (David Lynch is acquired taste)
Saw++ (As a series, very compelling morality)
Silence of the Lambs++ (Anthony WAS the series)
Waking Life+ (A nice intro to existential thought, but pretty basic)
The Fountain++ (Unique)
Proof+
Primer++ (Given the budget, a masterpiece)
Revolver++++++++ (SEE this movie. If you consider yourself a connoisseur.)
Wall-E++ (Best Disney to date)

Emotional
A Requiem for a Dream++ (A trip into the insanity of drugs, legal and not)
American History X+ (Racial, gangs, a tough life)
Artificial Intelligence+++ (Question what emotion truly is
Equilibrium++ (Life is not without emotion)
Garden State+ (Mostly depressing. The main character is meant to be disliked. Reality check.)
Goodwill Hunting+ (The life of an intellectual who doesn't care)
Igby Goes Down+ (Dealing with a handicapped brother)
Meet Joe Black (This movie had no merit to me)
Memento+++ (Place yourself in the shoes of this man)
Solaris+ (Odd sci-fi)
The Shawshank Redemption+ (Overrated, but worth watching)
The Sixth Sense++ (Hits the mark on being an outcast, though special)
The Virgin Suicides+
The Jacket++ (Clever. Should see this one)
Moon++ (Isolation, terribly sad)

Action
Apocalypse Now++ (One of the best war movies)
Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels++ (Guy Ritchie does his thing. Great stuff.)
Matrix++ (Eternally bashed, but magnificently conducted take on life)
Pandorum+ (Insanity on a wrecked spaceship)
The Deer Hunter+ (If you enjoy war movies, then this is one of the better ones)
V for Vendetta+ (Dictation, revolution. Tad bit shallow, but gets what it aims for)
Watchmen- (Has its high points, but overall... cash crop superheroes)

Comedy
Being John Malkovich++ (Hilarious and smart)
I Heart Huckabees++ (Cooperation vs. Trees, with quirky undertones)
Lost in Translation+ (Seemed a bit empty. Bill Murray has gotten stale)
One Flew Over the Cockoo's Nest++ (A nice journey into a psych ward)
Stranger than Fiction+++ (Hilarious)
Synechdoche New York++ (Odd and sometimes just downright weird)
Zombieland (Best comedic zombie movie)

Fantasy
Interview with a Vampire++ (Cult classic vampires)
Spirited Away++ (Weird Japanese cartoon.)

Can't Classify
Irreversible++ (Unique piece of art)
Old Boy++ (Good starter Asian film)
Pi++ (A masterpiece, but it takes a special kind of person to appreciate it)
Se7en++ (Pushing the disgusting ones to extremes, sin, beauty in death)
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Now, movies none of you posted.

Intellectual
Stay++ (Absolutely gorgeous, great clash with insanity and self destruction.)
Inception++ (Cliche, i know, but it was a beautifully built movie. Took me a few days to truly get it)
The Nines++ (Brilliant, i love it. Funny, captivating, and twisty.)
The Chumscrubber+++
A Scanner Darkly++ (Cell shading ala Waking Life. Paranoia, trust, drug addiction. Classic.)
Slipstream+ (If you have the patience, it's worth it. Nicely shot, but not gorgeous)
Dead Poets Society++ (Do what you desire. Fantastic deviation from prep norm)
Black Swan+ (Not up to Pi, Requiem, or Fountain standards. But interesting.)
Enter the Void++ (This is an experience. Artistically overwhelming. Pretty long, but any intellectual will appreciate this.)

Great movies on their own merits
Scott Pilgrim vs the World++ (Must see if you play games. It hits all the right notes, best game movie ever.)
Snatch++ (Guy Ritchie again. Sure, he recycles plots. But he's good at what he does.)
RocknRolla++ (See above. Imo, better than Snatch. It has more life to it.)
Go+ (Worth the watch, it has pretty much everything. Times three.)
The Brothers Bloom++ (Great movie all around, it's intelligent, pretty, funny... and more)

Chatroom- (Had to throw this one in here. Unique as far as I know. Worth a watch)

Foreign
Audition++ (Known by many as one of the best horror films of all time. Asian.)
Martyrs++ (One of the sickest horror films ive seen. The plot behind it is one to ponder.)

I'm ending this list here, spent enough time here already.


Live by and die by the rule of one.
WniO
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2706 Posts
December 29 2010 21:55 GMT
#184
i dont want to quote your massive post suffir, but what "revolver" are you referring to, there are like 3. and i hope you mean tarkovskys "solaris."
NonSenSeWins
Profile Joined August 2010
United States66 Posts
December 29 2010 21:55 GMT
#185
some korean movies >B^)

director: chan wook park
Old Boy
Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance
Lady Vengeance
Thirst

director: bong joon ho
Mother
Memories of Murder
The Host
heishe
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany2284 Posts
December 29 2010 21:56 GMT
#186
If you want something intellectual, watch The Wire It's not a movie though.
If you value your soul, never look into the eye of a horse. Your soul will forever be lost in the void of the horse.
iGrok
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5142 Posts
December 29 2010 22:02 GMT
#187
Wow what a necro post. Worth it though.

I'll be watching all of these shortly
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Zimmerman17
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada17 Posts
December 29 2010 22:08 GMT
#188
On December 30 2010 06:55 WniO wrote:
i dont want to quote your massive post suffir, but what "revolver" are you referring to, there are like 3. and i hope you mean tarkovskys "solaris."

Seeing how later on he mentions two other Guy Ritchie films, I think its safe to assume he is speaking of the Guy Ritchie Revolver.
TheKanAry
Profile Joined August 2010
United States149 Posts
December 29 2010 22:10 GMT
#189
You guys are kinda lame, just for this reason;
Catch 22.
10 pages.
It took 10 freakin' pages for someone to say that movie.
Go watch it, that is all.
those that fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
December 29 2010 22:19 GMT
#190
Love Exposure. Great and very original japanese movie and its about 4hours long!
Blyadischa
Profile Joined April 2010
419 Posts
December 29 2010 22:20 GMT
#191
I don't think the word intellectual should be used here. None of these movies are particularly intellectually stimulating, rather 99% of the movies mentioned are more of allegorical displays of things which everyone would agree with, such as Citizen Kane, yes it does take a little thinking to see the progression of his life, and remembering what "Rosebud" referred to, but other than that, the theme that one shouldn't sacrifice relationships for power is one that is pretty obvious and everyone would agree with it. An intellectual movie would make one think, like Lost in Translation, which had implied themes rather than explicit.

On February 08 2010 12:30 Xusneb wrote:
I'm not really sure what the OP meant by 'intellectual movies' but I just listed some here that made me think.

Philosophy:
Being John Malkovich, I Heart Huckabees

Other ones that I liked:
Watchmen, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, No Country for Old Men




Please don't mention I Heart Huckabees. Anyone with any philosophical knowledge would know that the characters are just spouting nonsense, and the movie concludes with everything being resolved because of the epiphanies of nonsense that the characters share with each other. It's quite fraudulent in that it leads ignorant audiences into believing they have some semblance of an idea of what the characters mean, then allowing the audience to individually come up with the intention of the film, when in reality, not even the director or writers know what the fuck they are talking about.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
December 29 2010 22:22 GMT
#192
Naruto Shippuden
Family Guy Star Wars
South Park Movie
Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon


I consider myself intellectual and these are the most recent movies i've seen.
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AirwaveRaid
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada49 Posts
December 29 2010 22:25 GMT
#193
+1 for Revolver
One of my favourite movies, it's really good.
zobz
Profile Joined November 2005
Canada2175 Posts
December 29 2010 22:49 GMT
#194
How the hell is Saw intellectual? Compelling morality? Wtf? It's a typical modern gross out horror movie about people trapped in a room and coerced into doing heinous things to survive... yes i suppose it arouses one question one could ponder, what would you be willing to do to survive? If merely stating that question for an hour and thirty minutes while showering you in meaningless shocking imagery strikes you as an intellectual piece of art, then yes, highly recommended.

When seeking intellectual movies one has to keep in mind that there is a wide array of carefully taylored pseudo-intellectual movies for and by people who think that thinking is kind of a cool thing to do once in a while, especially if you have some pot brownies.
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luckyseven
Profile Joined December 2010
179 Posts
December 29 2010 22:54 GMT
#195
On December 30 2010 07:20 Blyadischa wrote:
I don't think the word intellectual should be used here. None of these movies are particularly intellectually stimulating, rather 99% of the movies mentioned are more of allegorical displays of things which everyone would agree with, such as Citizen Kane, yes it does take a little thinking to see the progression of his life, and remembering what "Rosebud" referred to, but other than that, the theme that one shouldn't sacrifice relationships for power is one that is pretty obvious and everyone would agree with it. An intellectual movie would make one think, like Lost in Translation, which had implied themes rather than explicit.

Show nested quote +
On February 08 2010 12:30 Xusneb wrote:
I'm not really sure what the OP meant by 'intellectual movies' but I just listed some here that made me think.

Philosophy:
Being John Malkovich, I Heart Huckabees

Other ones that I liked:
Watchmen, The Diving Bell and the Butterfly, No Country for Old Men




Please don't mention I Heart Huckabees. Anyone with any philosophical knowledge would know that the characters are just spouting nonsense, and the movie concludes with everything being resolved because of the epiphanies of nonsense that the characters share with each other. It's quite fraudulent in that it leads ignorant audiences into believing they have some semblance of an idea of what the characters mean, then allowing the audience to individually come up with the intention of the film, when in reality, not even the director or writers know what the fuck they are talking about.


..doesnt that just mean it ended up being a pretty realistic way to end the film...?
SlyinZ
Profile Joined August 2010
France199 Posts
December 29 2010 22:58 GMT
#196
Stay
fight club
oldboy

If you can understand them (not the classic about fight club :lololol there a story abut a guy that fight in a fight club in a cave trololo ) they are great.
gyth
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
657 Posts
December 29 2010 23:13 GMT
#197
The invention of lying bushes past some pretty deep topics.


Now, movies none of you posted.
That's the trouble with necroing posts, some of that stuff hadn't been released.
The plural of anecdote is not data.
XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
December 29 2010 23:18 GMT
#198
Papillion is a great film. "Intellectual" is a pretty vague concept for films, with films I mostly like a believable and compelling narrative.

with Saw i think it does provoke thought on morality in an interesting way. Acts which would almost universally be considered heinous and immoral are justified by a moral undertone. This juxtuposition forces you to question ideas of ethics and morality and also does quite a good job of showing their tenuous nature and in doing so displays one of the largest critiques of moral relativism.

The point to this? Most of the burden falls on us the viewer and not the film itself to provoke intellectual considerations.
Adonai bless
Opponent
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada32 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-12-29 23:30:16
December 29 2010 23:27 GMT
#199
Reds
The KY
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom6252 Posts
December 30 2010 00:04 GMT
#200
If you're looking for something 'intellectual', I'd recommend skipping the film and reading the book it was adapted from. I swear, 99.9% of good, intelligent films are adapted from books. And 99.9% of the time the book is better. For example;

-Bladerunner, adapted from Do Androids Dream Of Electric Sheep? by Philip K. Dick

While the main theme of both works is what it is to be human, the book addresses this much more fully. The post-war society that the Deckard of the books occupies is based largely around empathy. There is a religion called Mercerism based around every person using a strange machine to feel the experiences of, and thus empathise with, a mysterious messianic figure who for some reason is eternally walking up a mountain and being tormented (there's also a sort of bizarre TV low brow comedian whose show is aired 24/7, no repeats, and who seems to be engaged in a battle with Mercerism for the hearts and minds of the people - it's weird). Empathy is such an central part of their lives that it is a gross social faux pas not to own an animal to look after, but many can't afford one and buy an electrical fake animal and live in fear of their neighbours finding out. Replicants, meanwhile, can't feel empathy, and therein in the focus of the novel.
All or most of this, the 'intellectually stimulating' bits, is absent from the film. Don't get me wrong, Bladerunner is great, but for different reasons. Beautifully shot, written and acted, it's intelligent and engaging throughout. But for brain food, I know which I'm going for.

In my personal opinion, the book version is almost always better in general. But then again I'm not a big film guy.

But if anyone's looking for great, intelligent films, I recently watched Sergio Leone's Once Upon A Time In The West and Once Upon A Time In America (the real version, not the shitty fucked up cut released in the US that apparently left Leone so 'heartbroken' that he never made another film).

P.S. I can't be the only one who thinks Donnie Darko is balls, can I?

P.P.S This thread is fucking old.
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