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SerpentFlame
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
415 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 22:38:28
February 15 2012 22:26 GMT
#8881
On February 16 2012 07:10 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 07:00 SerpentFlame wrote:
On February 16 2012 06:53 xDaunt wrote:
On February 16 2012 06:47 Leporello wrote:
On February 16 2012 05:16 Yongwang wrote:
Not exactly about the Republican nominations directly, but I think it's interesting how it shows the contrast between Obama's European style socialism and the American government and way of life, and just how different they are. If this doesn't belong in this thread, feel free to move or delete it.



Speaking of the CPAC, I find it funny that Republicans are insistent that their hatred with Obama has nothing to do with race, and yet they invite well-known White Supremicists to speak at their conventions.

http://www.drudge.com/news/153417/cpac-bans-gays-but-welcomes-white

Note that I'm sourcing it from Drudge, that way you know it's "fair and balanced". At the least, it just goes to show that institutional racism is still alive and well, and finds itself home at well-known Conservative functions.

FYI, that's not the real drudge, so you may want to recheck your sources....

Edit: And even assuming that the one guy is a racist, I'm not sure what you think you're proving. Both the left and the right have radical elements. Look no further than occupy wall street for a great example of rampant anti-semitism from the extreme left.

Tens of thousands of people marched with Occupy. One dude held up one anti-semitic sign in one protest in one city. An entire movement it does not invalidate.

Try harder.

I think you are grossly understating the anti semitism in the movement, but that's ok. I have better example. Look no further than Obama spending 20 years in Rev Wright's church. Democrats were more than happy to sweep that one under the rug. Even better, look at Obama's ties to Bill Ayers -- a known terrorist.

No evidence for any of your claims, as usual. No numbers, no evidence, no official Occupy statement, not even over 10 signs that indicate the movement's anti-semitic intent. Famous Jewish individuals (like George Soros, who by the way survived the Holocaust in Hungary) have supported the Occupy movement.

Edit: Let me update the section about Ayers and Obama's relationship, I made a mistake initially.
Here is the wikipedia link, with full citations.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers_presidential_election_controversy#Interaction_between_Obama_and_Ayers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers_presidential_election_controversy#Interaction_between_Obama_and_Ayers
Doesn't look like a chummy "Obama supported Ayers' Communist bombing activities" relationship to me.
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7237 Posts
February 15 2012 22:30 GMT
#8882
On February 16 2012 07:10 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 07:00 SerpentFlame wrote:
On February 16 2012 06:53 xDaunt wrote:
On February 16 2012 06:47 Leporello wrote:
On February 16 2012 05:16 Yongwang wrote:
Not exactly about the Republican nominations directly, but I think it's interesting how it shows the contrast between Obama's European style socialism and the American government and way of life, and just how different they are. If this doesn't belong in this thread, feel free to move or delete it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6doBZ_PPJCY


Speaking of the CPAC, I find it funny that Republicans are insistent that their hatred with Obama has nothing to do with race, and yet they invite well-known White Supremicists to speak at their conventions.

http://www.drudge.com/news/153417/cpac-bans-gays-but-welcomes-white

Note that I'm sourcing it from Drudge, that way you know it's "fair and balanced". At the least, it just goes to show that institutional racism is still alive and well, and finds itself home at well-known Conservative functions.

FYI, that's not the real drudge, so you may want to recheck your sources....

Edit: And even assuming that the one guy is a racist, I'm not sure what you think you're proving. Both the left and the right have radical elements. Look no further than occupy wall street for a great example of rampant anti-semitism from the extreme left.

Tens of thousands of people marched with Occupy. One dude held up one anti-semitic sign in one protest in one city. An entire movement it does not invalidate.

Try harder.

I think you are grossly understating the anti semitism in the movement, but that's ok. I have better example. Look no further than Obama spending 20 years in Rev Wright's church. Democrats were more than happy to sweep that one under the rug. Even better, look at Obama's ties to Bill Ayers -- a known terrorist.



If you have ever been around older black people (like 40+ years old) his line of thinking isn't extreme. What is even more funny is Wright and Paul have the same position with regards to Sept 11.

How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Yongwang
Profile Joined January 2012
United States196 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 22:36:24
February 15 2012 22:33 GMT
#8883
On February 16 2012 06:47 Leporello wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 05:16 Yongwang wrote:
Not exactly about the Republican nominations directly, but I think it's interesting how it shows the contrast between Obama's European style socialism and the American government and way of life, and just how different they are. If this doesn't belong in this thread, feel free to move or delete it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6doBZ_PPJCY


Speaking of the CPAC, I find it funny that Republicans are insistent that their hatred with Obama has nothing to do with race, and yet they invite well-known White Supremicists to speak at their conventions.

http://www.drudge.com/news/153417/cpac-bans-gays-but-welcomes-white

Note that I'm sourcing it from Drudge, that way you know it's "fair and balanced". At the least, it just goes to show that institutional racism is still alive and well, and finds itself home at well-known Conservative functions.

EDIT: There are better sources than Drudge if you want a full-account of who these guys are. I just find it funny that even the Drudge report is calling these guys racists. And yet in the comments, you can see people denying it thoroughly, calling the Southern Poverty Law Center a "liberal group".

The Southern Poverty Law Center, for those who aren't aware, are a very non-political group that simply reports on extreme cases of racism and prejudice around the country. If someone writes something blatantly racist, the Southern Poverty Law Center simply reports it. But I guess reporting on blatant racism makes you a "liberal activist" by some right-wing standards.

That isn't a reliable source and it isn't Drudge Report.
Yours is the most pathetic of all the lifeforms I've crushed.
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 22:38:37
February 15 2012 22:36 GMT
#8884
On February 16 2012 07:10 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 07:00 SerpentFlame wrote:
On February 16 2012 06:53 xDaunt wrote:
On February 16 2012 06:47 Leporello wrote:
On February 16 2012 05:16 Yongwang wrote:
Not exactly about the Republican nominations directly, but I think it's interesting how it shows the contrast between Obama's European style socialism and the American government and way of life, and just how different they are. If this doesn't belong in this thread, feel free to move or delete it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6doBZ_PPJCY


Speaking of the CPAC, I find it funny that Republicans are insistent that their hatred with Obama has nothing to do with race, and yet they invite well-known White Supremicists to speak at their conventions.

http://www.drudge.com/news/153417/cpac-bans-gays-but-welcomes-white

Note that I'm sourcing it from Drudge, that way you know it's "fair and balanced". At the least, it just goes to show that institutional racism is still alive and well, and finds itself home at well-known Conservative functions.

FYI, that's not the real drudge, so you may want to recheck your sources....

Edit: And even assuming that the one guy is a racist, I'm not sure what you think you're proving. Both the left and the right have radical elements. Look no further than occupy wall street for a great example of rampant anti-semitism from the extreme left.

Tens of thousands of people marched with Occupy. One dude held up one anti-semitic sign in one protest in one city. An entire movement it does not invalidate.

Try harder.

I think you are grossly understating the anti semitism in the movement, but that's ok. I have better example. Look no further than Obama spending 20 years in Rev Wright's church. Democrats were more than happy to sweep that one under the rug. Even better, look at Obama's ties to Bill Ayers -- a known terrorist.

Ehh...
This is all just dumb name-calling from both sides.

Obama was part of Rev. Wright's church yeah, but that church is a lot less radical than Santorum's chuch or Bachmann's church, yet no one really gives a shit about them. Also AFAIK, he didn't even really participate and was just a member of the congregation. (I'm actually pretty sure he's an atheist personally seeing as he's never really actively participated in any religious organization in his life, but politicians can't really say that in the US or they lose.)

And pretty much every neutral third party concluded that Obama didn't really have any relationship with Bill Ayers aside from knowing him from Chicago academic circles. Obama wasn't even born when Ayers was having all his hippie radical "terrorism" fun (and it's not like that "terrorism" actually killed anyone).

As far as the whole racism thing goes -- yeah, OWS is not really anti-semitic in any notable way as much of it is from the political left (coincidentally the same left that Jews overwhelmingly support and received support from historically).

Also the GOP is not a racist party. Grow the fuck up. Yes, racists vote Republican, but Republicans are not racists. There are plenty of valid reasons to disagree with the Democrats and vote Republican aside from race. That said, many Republicans are not doing themselves any favors by saying racially charged things and making stereotypical statements/caricatures. The thing is, any racism in the GOP is not coming from the Republican mainstream so it's a non-issue.

The GOP is on the other hand homophobic...
Yongwang
Profile Joined January 2012
United States196 Posts
February 15 2012 22:40 GMT
#8885
On February 16 2012 07:36 hmunkey wrote:
The GOP is on the other hand homophobic...

Not really, some of it's members are homophobic, but then again so are some Democrats. That has to do with religious beliefs, not political beliefs.
Yours is the most pathetic of all the lifeforms I've crushed.
DoubleReed
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States4130 Posts
February 15 2012 22:46 GMT
#8886
The GOP is on the other hand homophobic...


Hey now, ever heard of the Log Cabin Republicans?
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 22:49:15
February 15 2012 22:48 GMT
#8887
On February 16 2012 07:40 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 07:36 hmunkey wrote:
The GOP is on the other hand homophobic...

Not really, some of it's members are homophobic, but then again so are some Democrats. That has to do with religious beliefs, not political beliefs.

Virtually all mainstream politicians and the majority of registered party members are against gay marriage and even civil unions. They're against gay adoption, against the repeal of DADT, and against the Employer Non-Discrimination Act applying to gays. All of this is mirrored in the official stance of the Republican party, which you can read on their website.

I'm sorry, but there's no ambiguity on this issue and it's completely clear what the GOP thinks of homosexuals.
Yongwang
Profile Joined January 2012
United States196 Posts
February 15 2012 22:52 GMT
#8888
On February 16 2012 07:48 hmunkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 07:40 Yongwang wrote:
On February 16 2012 07:36 hmunkey wrote:
The GOP is on the other hand homophobic...

Not really, some of it's members are homophobic, but then again so are some Democrats. That has to do with religious beliefs, not political beliefs.

Virtually all mainstream politicians and the majority of registered party members are against gay marriage and even civil unions. They're against gay adoption, against the repeal of DADT, and against the Employer Non-Discrimination Act applying to gays. All of this is mirrored in the official stance of the Republican party, which you can read on their website.

I'm sorry, but there's no ambiguity on this issue and it's completely clear what the GOP thinks of homosexuals.

Read the post above yours. Opposition to homosexuality and abortion GO AGAINST the very idea of small government.
Yours is the most pathetic of all the lifeforms I've crushed.
Signet
Profile Joined March 2007
United States1718 Posts
February 15 2012 22:53 GMT
#8889
On February 16 2012 05:48 Yongwang wrote:
America could mine asteroids and turn a massive revenue and scientific advancement from that, there's already a massive asteroid belt in between the Moon and Earth we could utilize.

Isn't the asteroid belt in between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter? I think the only thing between Earth and the Moon are all the satellites humans have put there...
hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
February 15 2012 22:54 GMT
#8890
On February 16 2012 07:52 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 07:48 hmunkey wrote:
On February 16 2012 07:40 Yongwang wrote:
On February 16 2012 07:36 hmunkey wrote:
The GOP is on the other hand homophobic...

Not really, some of it's members are homophobic, but then again so are some Democrats. That has to do with religious beliefs, not political beliefs.

Virtually all mainstream politicians and the majority of registered party members are against gay marriage and even civil unions. They're against gay adoption, against the repeal of DADT, and against the Employer Non-Discrimination Act applying to gays. All of this is mirrored in the official stance of the Republican party, which you can read on their website.

I'm sorry, but there's no ambiguity on this issue and it's completely clear what the GOP thinks of homosexuals.

Read the post above yours. Opposition to homosexuality and abortion GO AGAINST the very idea of small government.

Yep, which is why the Republican party is a hypocritical farce.

They say they're against big government when they're really only against big government when they disagree with it. You're basically proving my point for me.
Yongwang
Profile Joined January 2012
United States196 Posts
February 15 2012 22:58 GMT
#8891
On February 16 2012 07:53 Signet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 05:48 Yongwang wrote:
America could mine asteroids and turn a massive revenue and scientific advancement from that, there's already a massive asteroid belt in between the Moon and Earth we could utilize.

Isn't the asteroid belt in between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter? I think the only thing between Earth and the Moon are all the satellites humans have put there...

I thought there was a small asteroid belt in between the Earth and Luna. I could be mistaken however.
Yours is the most pathetic of all the lifeforms I've crushed.
radiatoren
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Denmark1907 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-15 23:11:16
February 15 2012 23:02 GMT
#8892
On February 16 2012 07:58 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 07:53 Signet wrote:
On February 16 2012 05:48 Yongwang wrote:
America could mine asteroids and turn a massive revenue and scientific advancement from that, there's already a massive asteroid belt in between the Moon and Earth we could utilize.

Isn't the asteroid belt in between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter? I think the only thing between Earth and the Moon are all the satellites humans have put there...

I thought there was a small asteroid belt in between the Earth and Luna. I could be mistaken however.

Nope, that is just trash from previous missions. A poopoo does not qualify as an asteroid!

Edit: Upon further research any object can be called an asteroid if you so desire so it is not completely wrong to use that term about satelites of any kind.
Repeat before me
Yongwang
Profile Joined January 2012
United States196 Posts
February 16 2012 00:02 GMT
#8893
Great video here, too bad there is no real candidate to get behind in this election to stop Obama:
Yours is the most pathetic of all the lifeforms I've crushed.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7237 Posts
February 16 2012 00:10 GMT
#8894
On February 16 2012 09:02 Yongwang wrote:
Great video here, too bad there is no real candidate to get behind in this election to stop Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWR8qXJXnJE



the whole "take america back" thing is hilarious. Obama has been in office for 4 years -_-

ROFL @ this election deciding whether america lives or dies.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Yongwang
Profile Joined January 2012
United States196 Posts
February 16 2012 00:14 GMT
#8895
On February 16 2012 09:10 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 09:02 Yongwang wrote:
Great video here, too bad there is no real candidate to get behind in this election to stop Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWR8qXJXnJE



the whole "take america back" thing is hilarious. Obama has been in office for 4 years -_-

ROFL @ this election deciding whether america lives or dies.

It pretty much does decide if America lives or dies. Will we follow the failed policies of Obama and the Europeans? Or will we save America from the socialists and collectivists.
Yours is the most pathetic of all the lifeforms I've crushed.
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7237 Posts
February 16 2012 00:16 GMT
#8896
On February 16 2012 09:14 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 09:10 Sadist wrote:
On February 16 2012 09:02 Yongwang wrote:
Great video here, too bad there is no real candidate to get behind in this election to stop Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWR8qXJXnJE



the whole "take america back" thing is hilarious. Obama has been in office for 4 years -_-

ROFL @ this election deciding whether america lives or dies.

It pretty much does decide if America lives or dies. Will we follow the failed policies of Obama and the Europeans? Or will we save America from the socialists and collectivists.



You act like things are ever permanent. Give me a break.


If Obama and congress enacted some laws that you don't like, guess what, they can be repealed.

Nothing is permanent. You know who is really scary? Rick Santorum.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
nam nam
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden4672 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-16 00:18:46
February 16 2012 00:17 GMT
#8897
On February 16 2012 09:14 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 09:10 Sadist wrote:
On February 16 2012 09:02 Yongwang wrote:
Great video here, too bad there is no real candidate to get behind in this election to stop Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWR8qXJXnJE



the whole "take america back" thing is hilarious. Obama has been in office for 4 years -_-

ROFL @ this election deciding whether america lives or dies.

It pretty much does decide if America lives or dies. Will we follow the failed policies of Obama and the Europeans? Or will we save America from the socialists and collectivists.


Are you saying Europe is dead or something? I feel very much alive thank you. And it's pretty much a joke when you say Obama follow european policies regardless.
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11350 Posts
February 16 2012 00:17 GMT
#8898
I hate the rhetoric in those sorts of video's. "Decide the state of the world" "Decide the state of freedom" "I'm so afraid..."
I understand the need to make yourself unique from the opposition. But the stakes are always raised unnecessarily. So many of the political ads these days look like trailers for some post-apocalyptic film.
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Yongwang
Profile Joined January 2012
United States196 Posts
February 16 2012 00:18 GMT
#8899
On February 16 2012 09:16 Sadist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 09:14 Yongwang wrote:
On February 16 2012 09:10 Sadist wrote:
On February 16 2012 09:02 Yongwang wrote:
Great video here, too bad there is no real candidate to get behind in this election to stop Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWR8qXJXnJE



the whole "take america back" thing is hilarious. Obama has been in office for 4 years -_-

ROFL @ this election deciding whether america lives or dies.

It pretty much does decide if America lives or dies. Will we follow the failed policies of Obama and the Europeans? Or will we save America from the socialists and collectivists.



You act like things are ever permanent. Give me a break.


If Obama and congress enacted some laws that you don't like, guess what, they can be repealed.

Nothing is permanent. You know who is really scary? Rick Santorum.

Santorum is scary, but Obama is infinitely scarier. Also once you go down the socialist path, it's hard to get off of it without a massive rise in nationalism and/or a revolution. Especially once the bureaucrats start to control everything like in Europe.
Yours is the most pathetic of all the lifeforms I've crushed.
Myles
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5162 Posts
February 16 2012 00:19 GMT
#8900
On February 16 2012 09:14 Yongwang wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 16 2012 09:10 Sadist wrote:
On February 16 2012 09:02 Yongwang wrote:
Great video here, too bad there is no real candidate to get behind in this election to stop Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWR8qXJXnJE



the whole "take america back" thing is hilarious. Obama has been in office for 4 years -_-

ROFL @ this election deciding whether america lives or dies.

It pretty much does decide if America lives or dies. Will we follow the failed policies of Obama and the Europeans? Or will we save America from the socialists and collectivists.

You gotta be shittin me.If anyone thinks any of the mainstream candidates are going to be any different from Obama then you're insane. It doesn't take a psychic to see that Republicans are hypocrites in nearly everything they say. Small government; only if it's something we don't like. Non-intrusion; only if you live by the bible. Reduced spending; except on wars and big business subsidies. And the sad thing is that Democrats suck just as bad.
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