On February 16 2012 05:16 Yongwang wrote: Not exactly about the Republican nominations directly, but I think it's interesting how it shows the contrast between Obama's European style socialism and the American government and way of life, and just how different they are. If this doesn't belong in this thread, feel free to move or delete it.
Speaking of the CPAC, I find it funny that Republicans are insistent that their hatred with Obama has nothing to do with race, and yet they invite well-known White Supremicists to speak at their conventions.
Note that I'm sourcing it from Drudge, that way you know it's "fair and balanced". At the least, it just goes to show that institutional racism is still alive and well, and finds itself home at well-known Conservative functions.
FYI, that's not the real drudge, so you may want to recheck your sources....
Edit: And even assuming that the one guy is a racist, I'm not sure what you think you're proving. Both the left and the right have radical elements. Look no further than occupy wall street for a great example of rampant anti-semitism from the extreme left.
Tens of thousands of people marched with Occupy. One dude held up one anti-semitic sign in one protest in one city. An entire movement it does not invalidate.
Try harder.
I think you are grossly understating the anti semitism in the movement, but that's ok. I have better example. Look no further than Obama spending 20 years in Rev Wright's church. Democrats were more than happy to sweep that one under the rug. Even better, look at Obama's ties to Bill Ayers -- a known terrorist.
No evidence for any of your claims, as usual. No numbers, no evidence, no official Occupy statement, not even over 10 signs that indicate the movement's anti-semitic intent. Famous Jewish individuals (like George Soros, who by the way survived the Holocaust in Hungary) have supported the Occupy movement.
On February 16 2012 05:16 Yongwang wrote: Not exactly about the Republican nominations directly, but I think it's interesting how it shows the contrast between Obama's European style socialism and the American government and way of life, and just how different they are. If this doesn't belong in this thread, feel free to move or delete it.
Speaking of the CPAC, I find it funny that Republicans are insistent that their hatred with Obama has nothing to do with race, and yet they invite well-known White Supremicists to speak at their conventions.
Note that I'm sourcing it from Drudge, that way you know it's "fair and balanced". At the least, it just goes to show that institutional racism is still alive and well, and finds itself home at well-known Conservative functions.
FYI, that's not the real drudge, so you may want to recheck your sources....
Edit: And even assuming that the one guy is a racist, I'm not sure what you think you're proving. Both the left and the right have radical elements. Look no further than occupy wall street for a great example of rampant anti-semitism from the extreme left.
Tens of thousands of people marched with Occupy. One dude held up one anti-semitic sign in one protest in one city. An entire movement it does not invalidate.
Try harder.
I think you are grossly understating the anti semitism in the movement, but that's ok. I have better example. Look no further than Obama spending 20 years in Rev Wright's church. Democrats were more than happy to sweep that one under the rug. Even better, look at Obama's ties to Bill Ayers -- a known terrorist.
If you have ever been around older black people (like 40+ years old) his line of thinking isn't extreme. What is even more funny is Wright and Paul have the same position with regards to Sept 11.
On February 16 2012 05:16 Yongwang wrote: Not exactly about the Republican nominations directly, but I think it's interesting how it shows the contrast between Obama's European style socialism and the American government and way of life, and just how different they are. If this doesn't belong in this thread, feel free to move or delete it.
Speaking of the CPAC, I find it funny that Republicans are insistent that their hatred with Obama has nothing to do with race, and yet they invite well-known White Supremicists to speak at their conventions.
Note that I'm sourcing it from Drudge, that way you know it's "fair and balanced". At the least, it just goes to show that institutional racism is still alive and well, and finds itself home at well-known Conservative functions.
EDIT: There are better sources than Drudge if you want a full-account of who these guys are. I just find it funny that even the Drudge report is calling these guys racists. And yet in the comments, you can see people denying it thoroughly, calling the Southern Poverty Law Center a "liberal group".
The Southern Poverty Law Center, for those who aren't aware, are a very non-political group that simply reports on extreme cases of racism and prejudice around the country. If someone writes something blatantly racist, the Southern Poverty Law Center simply reports it. But I guess reporting on blatant racism makes you a "liberal activist" by some right-wing standards.
That isn't a reliable source and it isn't Drudge Report.
On February 16 2012 05:16 Yongwang wrote: Not exactly about the Republican nominations directly, but I think it's interesting how it shows the contrast between Obama's European style socialism and the American government and way of life, and just how different they are. If this doesn't belong in this thread, feel free to move or delete it.
Speaking of the CPAC, I find it funny that Republicans are insistent that their hatred with Obama has nothing to do with race, and yet they invite well-known White Supremicists to speak at their conventions.
Note that I'm sourcing it from Drudge, that way you know it's "fair and balanced". At the least, it just goes to show that institutional racism is still alive and well, and finds itself home at well-known Conservative functions.
FYI, that's not the real drudge, so you may want to recheck your sources....
Edit: And even assuming that the one guy is a racist, I'm not sure what you think you're proving. Both the left and the right have radical elements. Look no further than occupy wall street for a great example of rampant anti-semitism from the extreme left.
Tens of thousands of people marched with Occupy. One dude held up one anti-semitic sign in one protest in one city. An entire movement it does not invalidate.
Try harder.
I think you are grossly understating the anti semitism in the movement, but that's ok. I have better example. Look no further than Obama spending 20 years in Rev Wright's church. Democrats were more than happy to sweep that one under the rug. Even better, look at Obama's ties to Bill Ayers -- a known terrorist.
Ehh... This is all just dumb name-calling from both sides.
Obama was part of Rev. Wright's church yeah, but that church is a lot less radical than Santorum's chuch or Bachmann's church, yet no one really gives a shit about them. Also AFAIK, he didn't even really participate and was just a member of the congregation. (I'm actually pretty sure he's an atheist personally seeing as he's never really actively participated in any religious organization in his life, but politicians can't really say that in the US or they lose.)
And pretty much every neutral third party concluded that Obama didn't really have any relationship with Bill Ayers aside from knowing him from Chicago academic circles. Obama wasn't even born when Ayers was having all his hippie radical "terrorism" fun (and it's not like that "terrorism" actually killed anyone).
As far as the whole racism thing goes -- yeah, OWS is not really anti-semitic in any notable way as much of it is from the political left (coincidentally the same left that Jews overwhelmingly support and received support from historically).
Also the GOP is not a racist party. Grow the fuck up. Yes, racists vote Republican, but Republicans are not racists. There are plenty of valid reasons to disagree with the Democrats and vote Republican aside from race. That said, many Republicans are not doing themselves any favors by saying racially charged things and making stereotypical statements/caricatures. The thing is, any racism in the GOP is not coming from the Republican mainstream so it's a non-issue.
On February 16 2012 07:36 hmunkey wrote: The GOP is on the other hand homophobic...
Not really, some of it's members are homophobic, but then again so are some Democrats. That has to do with religious beliefs, not political beliefs.
Virtually all mainstream politicians and the majority of registered party members are against gay marriage and even civil unions. They're against gay adoption, against the repeal of DADT, and against the Employer Non-Discrimination Act applying to gays. All of this is mirrored in the official stance of the Republican party, which you can read on their website.
I'm sorry, but there's no ambiguity on this issue and it's completely clear what the GOP thinks of homosexuals.
On February 16 2012 07:36 hmunkey wrote: The GOP is on the other hand homophobic...
Not really, some of it's members are homophobic, but then again so are some Democrats. That has to do with religious beliefs, not political beliefs.
Virtually all mainstream politicians and the majority of registered party members are against gay marriage and even civil unions. They're against gay adoption, against the repeal of DADT, and against the Employer Non-Discrimination Act applying to gays. All of this is mirrored in the official stance of the Republican party, which you can read on their website.
I'm sorry, but there's no ambiguity on this issue and it's completely clear what the GOP thinks of homosexuals.
Read the post above yours. Opposition to homosexuality and abortion GO AGAINST the very idea of small government.
On February 16 2012 05:48 Yongwang wrote: America could mine asteroids and turn a massive revenue and scientific advancement from that, there's already a massive asteroid belt in between the Moon and Earth we could utilize.
Isn't the asteroid belt in between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter? I think the only thing between Earth and the Moon are all the satellites humans have put there...
On February 16 2012 07:36 hmunkey wrote: The GOP is on the other hand homophobic...
Not really, some of it's members are homophobic, but then again so are some Democrats. That has to do with religious beliefs, not political beliefs.
Virtually all mainstream politicians and the majority of registered party members are against gay marriage and even civil unions. They're against gay adoption, against the repeal of DADT, and against the Employer Non-Discrimination Act applying to gays. All of this is mirrored in the official stance of the Republican party, which you can read on their website.
I'm sorry, but there's no ambiguity on this issue and it's completely clear what the GOP thinks of homosexuals.
Read the post above yours. Opposition to homosexuality and abortion GO AGAINST the very idea of small government.
Yep, which is why the Republican party is a hypocritical farce.
They say they're against big government when they're really only against big government when they disagree with it. You're basically proving my point for me.
On February 16 2012 05:48 Yongwang wrote: America could mine asteroids and turn a massive revenue and scientific advancement from that, there's already a massive asteroid belt in between the Moon and Earth we could utilize.
Isn't the asteroid belt in between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter? I think the only thing between Earth and the Moon are all the satellites humans have put there...
I thought there was a small asteroid belt in between the Earth and Luna. I could be mistaken however.
On February 16 2012 05:48 Yongwang wrote: America could mine asteroids and turn a massive revenue and scientific advancement from that, there's already a massive asteroid belt in between the Moon and Earth we could utilize.
Isn't the asteroid belt in between the orbits of Mars and Jupiter? I think the only thing between Earth and the Moon are all the satellites humans have put there...
I thought there was a small asteroid belt in between the Earth and Luna. I could be mistaken however.
Nope, that is just trash from previous missions. A poopoo does not qualify as an asteroid!
Edit: Upon further research any object can be called an asteroid if you so desire so it is not completely wrong to use that term about satelites of any kind.
On February 16 2012 09:02 Yongwang wrote: Great video here, too bad there is no real candidate to get behind in this election to stop Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWR8qXJXnJE
the whole "take america back" thing is hilarious. Obama has been in office for 4 years -_-
ROFL @ this election deciding whether america lives or dies.
On February 16 2012 09:02 Yongwang wrote: Great video here, too bad there is no real candidate to get behind in this election to stop Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWR8qXJXnJE
the whole "take america back" thing is hilarious. Obama has been in office for 4 years -_-
ROFL @ this election deciding whether america lives or dies.
It pretty much does decide if America lives or dies. Will we follow the failed policies of Obama and the Europeans? Or will we save America from the socialists and collectivists.
On February 16 2012 09:02 Yongwang wrote: Great video here, too bad there is no real candidate to get behind in this election to stop Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWR8qXJXnJE
the whole "take america back" thing is hilarious. Obama has been in office for 4 years -_-
ROFL @ this election deciding whether america lives or dies.
It pretty much does decide if America lives or dies. Will we follow the failed policies of Obama and the Europeans? Or will we save America from the socialists and collectivists.
You act like things are ever permanent. Give me a break.
If Obama and congress enacted some laws that you don't like, guess what, they can be repealed.
Nothing is permanent. You know who is really scary? Rick Santorum.
On February 16 2012 09:02 Yongwang wrote: Great video here, too bad there is no real candidate to get behind in this election to stop Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWR8qXJXnJE
the whole "take america back" thing is hilarious. Obama has been in office for 4 years -_-
ROFL @ this election deciding whether america lives or dies.
It pretty much does decide if America lives or dies. Will we follow the failed policies of Obama and the Europeans? Or will we save America from the socialists and collectivists.
Are you saying Europe is dead or something? I feel very much alive thank you. And it's pretty much a joke when you say Obama follow european policies regardless.
I hate the rhetoric in those sorts of video's. "Decide the state of the world" "Decide the state of freedom" "I'm so afraid..." I understand the need to make yourself unique from the opposition. But the stakes are always raised unnecessarily. So many of the political ads these days look like trailers for some post-apocalyptic film.
On February 16 2012 09:02 Yongwang wrote: Great video here, too bad there is no real candidate to get behind in this election to stop Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWR8qXJXnJE
the whole "take america back" thing is hilarious. Obama has been in office for 4 years -_-
ROFL @ this election deciding whether america lives or dies.
It pretty much does decide if America lives or dies. Will we follow the failed policies of Obama and the Europeans? Or will we save America from the socialists and collectivists.
You act like things are ever permanent. Give me a break.
If Obama and congress enacted some laws that you don't like, guess what, they can be repealed.
Nothing is permanent. You know who is really scary? Rick Santorum.
Santorum is scary, but Obama is infinitely scarier. Also once you go down the socialist path, it's hard to get off of it without a massive rise in nationalism and/or a revolution. Especially once the bureaucrats start to control everything like in Europe.
On February 16 2012 09:02 Yongwang wrote: Great video here, too bad there is no real candidate to get behind in this election to stop Obama: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TWR8qXJXnJE
the whole "take america back" thing is hilarious. Obama has been in office for 4 years -_-
ROFL @ this election deciding whether america lives or dies.
It pretty much does decide if America lives or dies. Will we follow the failed policies of Obama and the Europeans? Or will we save America from the socialists and collectivists.
You gotta be shittin me.If anyone thinks any of the mainstream candidates are going to be any different from Obama then you're insane. It doesn't take a psychic to see that Republicans are hypocrites in nearly everything they say. Small government; only if it's something we don't like. Non-intrusion; only if you live by the bible. Reduced spending; except on wars and big business subsidies. And the sad thing is that Democrats suck just as bad.
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