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dakalro
Profile Joined September 2010
Romania525 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 13:50:44
August 02 2011 13:50 GMT
#341
From some of the amounts of debt and some personal experience it's nowhere near because they're poor or want to pay off school loans. It's purely a choice to have or to maintain a certain lifestyle. To be able to go out to the most expensive clubs, spas, trips, designer clothing. And they don't exactly get forced with a certain person, it's a choice and is closer to marrying someone for money than prostitution.

At least that's the default here.
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 13:53:41
August 02 2011 13:50 GMT
#342
On August 02 2011 22:38 BadgerBadger8264 wrote:
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Kinda weird how poor people tend to "chose" to become prostitute and wealthier women don't...
Oh yeah they might have chosen to be poor, right... ?

As stated before, what about men in those situations? They don't have this option. If anything, if you're in a terrible financial spot, being a prostitute is a luxury woman have as an extra choice over crime/working ridiculous hours. Especially this kind of prostitution. These women are paid anywhere in the area of 500$-1000$ a day for being with a single partner, yes, the partner isn't anywhere near what you want in a sexual partner, but would you rather do an older woman a couple dozen times to get out of college debt or work 60 hours a week for years? The only difference is you don't have the choice.

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I have huge respect for all the girls that went in the same situations as those girls but have chosen to avoid prostitution.

By that logic you should have huge respects for any guy that works his way through his college debt.

Yes, being poor in the US is terrible and forces you to do shitty stuff, but that's more of an issue with the American economic system than directly with prostitution.


I'm just saying that situations that encourage prostitution are bad conditions for the evolution of the humankind. That's my belief, maybe an uneducated one as you seem to evaluate prostitution quite positively. I don't want to talk about men conditions in this thread as I really don't think it fits the topic.

And, yeah, american economic system is in direct corelation with those girls prostituting themselves, those situations are tied.
Evilmystic
Profile Joined September 2010
Russian Federation266 Posts
August 02 2011 13:51 GMT
#343
On August 02 2011 22:45 BadgerBadger8264 wrote:
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You don't really have to study in university, you know? If you don't have money for that, just go get a job after finishing high school if you're so poor.

I'm not talking about myself, I'm not anywhere in the neighborhood of poor (and I also don't live in the US)

If you get a job straight out of high school, you won't get anywhere near a good job and you'll end up just as poor as your parents, and your kids will end up just as poor, it's a vicious chain you can't get out of unless you take a risk and go to college. They have to do it if they don't want to end up piss poor.


I'm not talking about you too, just about hypothetical person.

If you are really talented you should be able to get some good job even without university education or apply for sponsored education. But if you have mediocre abilities and also come from poor family, it's not like that's somebody else's problem. Life isn't friendly for everyone, that's how it is.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
August 02 2011 13:57 GMT
#344
"I realize I'm not going to have it forever," Jennifer says, brushing her blond, wavy hair off to one side. "While I've still got it, I'm going to milk it for all it's worth. I mean, maybe I'll get swept off my feet. Really, anything could happen."


Don't know if someone else posted this but.....

She's milking herself
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TheGlassface
Profile Joined November 2010
United States612 Posts
August 02 2011 13:59 GMT
#345
On August 02 2011 22:46 meadbert wrote:
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On August 02 2011 22:28 harhar! wrote:
college should be free anyways, the american system is even shittier then the german one.

Free for who? Someone pays. If the government pays that just means less money that can be spent on other social programs. I see no reason to cut benefits on the poor to subsidize the future upper class of America.
Student loans exist for a reason. You can take your income which is already going to be twice that of someone without college and give 20% to student loans and still come out way ahead.


Eleven pages and THIS is what we get to.
If you think education only serves for an "upper class," then you have absolutely no idea how poverty works in the first place.
The fact that you place emphasis on student loans and the debtor system shows this even further.

Holy helll @ this entire thread.

The bottom line is how is this getting around prostitution laws?
The mystery of life is not a problem to solve, but a reality to experience. **Hang in there STX fans!! Kal Hwaiting!**
Shadowcloak
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands194 Posts
August 02 2011 14:02 GMT
#346
WHERES my sugar mommy i still need to pay next years tuition
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ SUPP SON
BlackFlag
Profile Joined September 2010
499 Posts
August 02 2011 14:02 GMT
#347
On August 02 2011 22:59 TheGlassface wrote:
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On August 02 2011 22:46 meadbert wrote:
On August 02 2011 22:28 harhar! wrote:
college should be free anyways, the american system is even shittier then the german one.

Free for who? Someone pays. If the government pays that just means less money that can be spent on other social programs. I see no reason to cut benefits on the poor to subsidize the future upper class of America.
Student loans exist for a reason. You can take your income which is already going to be twice that of someone without college and give 20% to student loans and still come out way ahead.


Eleven pages and THIS is what we get to.
If you think education only serves for an "upper class," then you have absolutely no idea how poverty works in the first place.
The fact that you place emphasis on student loans and the debtor system shows this even further.

Holy helll @ this entire thread.

The bottom line is how is this getting around prostitution laws?


This thread shows exactly what's wrong with the world.
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
August 02 2011 14:07 GMT
#348
hmmm I'm into older women, but if they'd pay to get sex, they're not just old but ugly too.....................
fuck, being a woman is imba in this situation..
Nizaris
Profile Joined May 2010
Belgium2230 Posts
August 02 2011 14:11 GMT
#349
I don't see anything wrong with prostitution as long as both are willing. Oldest profession isn't goin anywhere.

Only interesting thing is, how is this not considered prostitution?
Nightfall.589
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada766 Posts
August 02 2011 14:12 GMT
#350
On August 02 2011 23:11 Nizaris wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with prostitution as long as both are willing. Oldest profession isn't goin anywhere.

Only interesting thing is, how is this not considered prostitution?


Because it's no different from gold-digging, minus the marriage part.
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energeist
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada21 Posts
August 02 2011 14:15 GMT
#351
On August 02 2011 22:40 GreEny K wrote:
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On August 02 2011 21:37 Casta wrote:
On August 02 2011 21:34 GreEny K wrote:
On August 02 2011 21:30 Diks wrote:
On August 02 2011 21:25 Klaus1986 wrote:
Prostitution should be 100% legal. Two consenting adults should be able to do whatever the hell they want.


If by consenting you mean forced to do it by need, then no...
Have you read the article ? About that girl feeling dirty after doing that shit ?
You have some weird definition of consentment my friend...


That's one instance, have you seen Las Vegas call girls? Trust me, they don't need to be out there doing what they do.


The problem is that the girls don't want to be prostitutes, they just want to get their degree and pay their bills. They do it out of necessity in some form or another.


Complete bullshit. How do other people pay for their bills? These wanna be whores are just idiots, who take the easy way out. How did women pay for their schooling before this all started? The good old fashioned way, they worked through school and took out loans which they paid off later. Just like everyone else.


So they're idiots for paying off their debt faster? Cool story, bro. There was an opportunity for them and they seized it.
Sobba
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden576 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 14:18:14
August 02 2011 14:18 GMT
#352
On August 02 2011 23:11 Nizaris wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with prostitution as long as both are willing. Oldest profession isn't goin anywhere.

Only interesting thing is, how is this not considered prostitution?


Very very few becomes prostitutes purely outa free will. Usually its a question about money, and thus alot of these women are basicly forced into it.
dybydx
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Canada1764 Posts
August 02 2011 14:25 GMT
#353
after reading OP's article, i recommend ppl to read up on "beauty and the beast", the real version, not the disney edition.
...from the land of imba
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32157 Posts
August 02 2011 14:26 GMT
#354
"It's a very expensive job," says Jack, a 70-year-old sugar daddy, who describes himself as a "humanitarian" interested in helping young women in financial need.


HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAAHAHHAHAHANAHAHHA

This dude must have had the most smug look on his face when delivering that line

I don't care whether or not this is legal, but I am mostly amused that many of these girls think this is some kind of normal situation, and don't believe they're whores and prostitutes. Even more funny is that these people frame it as 'not having a choice'

says the dumbass lib arts major paying $40k a year at NYU, who is too good to go do some other, less paying job, but absolutely must live in NYC. These are just more expensive hookers
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nihoh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia978 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 14:45:24
August 02 2011 14:28 GMT
#355
There are prostitutes from every culture. [EDIT: In a first world country with relatively established women's rights, such as the US] it becomes just an easy choice females may make.
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BadgerBadger8264
Profile Joined March 2011
Netherlands409 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-02 14:39:49
August 02 2011 14:30 GMT
#356
If you are really talented you should be able to get some good job even without university education or apply for sponsored education. But if you have mediocre abilities and also come from poor family, it's not like that's somebody else's problem. Life isn't friendly for everyone, that's how it is.

And how will you be able to evolve those "talented" abilities if you're stuck working at McDonalds 12 hours a day just to pay for your basic needs without enough money for college? You could be a hell of a lawyer, but if you don't have a college education you're not going to become one. Period. There's no condition to that. The same happens with pretty much any job. If you think just being talented is enough to get a good job you're wrong 99% of the time.

I don't want to talk about men conditions in this thread as I really don't think it fits the topic.

I think it's pretty relevant when discussing whether or not the prostitution is forced onto the women because of circumstance (because it obviously is not, as men in the same situation don't just die of hunger and they lack this option)

I'm just saying that situations that encourage prostitution are bad conditions for the evolution of the humankind. That's my belief, maybe an uneducated one as you seem to evaluate prostitution quite positively.

I agree that situations that promote prostitution are usually terrible, but it's still a choice the woman makes. A choice she has over men, accompanied with all options men can make in those situations. They still choose to become a prostitute over working long hours in minimum wage jobs or just dropping out of college entirely. The choice of prostitution is still a choice woman have over the options men have in that situation. It's not forced. Period. (women forced into prostitution for financial reasons does happen in countries where women can't get normal jobs, but not in the US)
Nightfall.589
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada766 Posts
August 02 2011 14:31 GMT
#357
On August 02 2011 23:18 Sobba wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 23:11 Nizaris wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with prostitution as long as both are willing. Oldest profession isn't goin anywhere.

Only interesting thing is, how is this not considered prostitution?


Very very few becomes prostitutes purely outa free will. Usually its a question about money, and thus alot of these women are basicly forced into it.


Very very few people work at Wal-Mart purely out of free will. Usually its a question about money, and thus a lot of the people working at Wal-Mart are basically forced into it.

I don't think "Forced" is the right word, here.
Proof by Legislation: An entire body of (sort-of) elected officials is more correct than all of the known laws of physics, math and science as a whole. -Scott McIntyre
CursedRich
Profile Joined November 2010
United Kingdom737 Posts
August 02 2011 14:37 GMT
#358
Its called the oldest profession in the world for a reason
Chill Winston......
Cyx.
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada806 Posts
August 02 2011 14:41 GMT
#359
On August 02 2011 23:31 Nightfall.589 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 23:18 Sobba wrote:
On August 02 2011 23:11 Nizaris wrote:
I don't see anything wrong with prostitution as long as both are willing. Oldest profession isn't goin anywhere.

Only interesting thing is, how is this not considered prostitution?


Very very few becomes prostitutes purely outa free will. Usually its a question about money, and thus alot of these women are basicly forced into it.


Very very few people work at Wal-Mart purely out of free will. Usually its a question about money, and thus a lot of the people working at Wal-Mart are basically forced into it.

I don't think "Forced" is the right word, here.


Ahaha. I just started a thread about that. It really bugged me too. They're not forced into it at all. That's totally the wrong word to use, unless you want to use it to describe the kid working at Wal-Mart as well.
SanDokaN_X
Profile Joined May 2011
Bulgaria69 Posts
August 02 2011 14:44 GMT
#360
Materialists dominate in public life.
For money we lie, for money we fuck, for money we kill, for money we are ready to sell ourselves. At any time.
'Nuff said. To be a survivor, you have to sometimes give up your moral and do whatever shit you must do.
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