EPTWhat is so different with the educational system from the US compared to say European standards?
Afaik I only pay about 2k excluding books a year which'll come down to 8k for 4 years excluding books (I only download books or not at all
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
What is so different with the educational system from the US compared to say European standards? Afaik I only pay about 2k excluding books a year which'll come down to 8k for 4 years excluding books (I only download books or not at all ). | ||
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Equity213
Canada873 Posts
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Horst
338 Posts
On August 03 2011 00:18 shannn wrote: How big are the cost of tuitions then in the US? What is so different with the educational system from the US compared to say European standards? Afaik I only pay about 2k excluding books a year which'll come down to 8k for 4 years excluding books (I only download books or not at all ).tuition is expensive. I'm going to a private school, borrowing ~$25,000 a year on student loans to pay for it. | ||
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Cyx.
Canada806 Posts
On August 03 2011 00:17 Evilmystic wrote: What does it have with self-respect? If I give up on obsolete and not objectively justified ethical values, why should I respect myself less? I think you're taking this deeper than most people in the thread again. | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On August 03 2011 00:19 Horst wrote: tuition is expensive. I'm going to a private school, borrowing ~$25,000 a year on student loans to pay for it. Holy crap that is a lot :O So do you get a masters degree or a bachelors degree? In Holland we have HBO(4 year study for bachelor's degree) and WO (a master's degree ranging from 1-4 years depending if you have a bachelor's degree). And these tuitions only cost 1.5k-2k a year for almost every school. Only the private schools costs a lot of money which comes down to about $35-40k a year (a friend of mine goes to a private school). | ||
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Cyx.
Canada806 Posts
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
And here I was thinking of maybe dooing a master's degree education in the US LOL! I might as well just stay an extra year or so to get that :| | ||
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mcc
Czech Republic4646 Posts
On August 03 2011 00:22 shannn wrote: Holy crap that is a lot :O So do you get a masters degree or a bachelors degree? In Holland we have HBO(4 year study for bachelor's degree) and WO (a master's degree ranging from 1-4 years depending if you have a bachelor's degree). And these tuitions only cost 1.5k-2k a year for almost every school. Only the private schools costs a lot of money which comes down to about $35-40k a year (a friend of mine goes to a private school). As far as I get the feeling it is more Anglo-saxon thing than US thing as Canada and UK have also rather high (not as US) costs of higher education. | ||
Vejovis
Canada14 Posts
On August 03 2011 00:24 Cyx. wrote: In Canada I pay about $15,000 a year all told for university, and I have a couple grand in scholarships backing it up. Overall it costs nearer to $20,000 a year to support yourself through the university I go to, which is good but not world-class by any means. I paid a similar amount in my first year, and 70% of it went towards paying for residence. Tuition for myself is only around 5,500 (Canadian $) but that doesn't include living expenses (moving away from home as I did). I got pretty lucky with scholarships, but even then I won't be graduating without being in debt. | ||
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j0k3r
United States577 Posts
On August 03 2011 00:22 shannn wrote: Holy crap that is a lot :O So do you get a masters degree or a bachelors degree? In Holland we have HBO(4 year study for bachelor's degree) and WO (a master's degree ranging from 1-4 years depending if you have a bachelor's degree). And these tuitions only cost 1.5k-2k a year for almost every school. Only the private schools costs a lot of money which comes down to about $35-40k a year (a friend of mine goes to a private school). Public and private exists here too - most state schools which get significant funding from their state offer tuition around $10,000 a year with dorm and food something like $6-8K per year. With books and fees will run $20,000 (rough example for Rutgers in NJ). It may be more or less depending on the state. Private universities will run anywhere from $30-$60K. I go to NYU and the total yearly bill will just about hit $60K for tuition, room, food, books. The financial aid + scholarships are pretty good though I do get about half off and have no loans since my parents planned =\ | ||
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nayumi
Australia6499 Posts
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Horst
338 Posts
On August 03 2011 00:22 shannn wrote: Holy crap that is a lot :O So do you get a masters degree or a bachelors degree? In Holland we have HBO(4 year study for bachelor's degree) and WO (a master's degree ranging from 1-4 years depending if you have a bachelor's degree). And these tuitions only cost 1.5k-2k a year for almost every school. Only the private schools costs a lot of money which comes down to about $35-40k a year (a friend of mine goes to a private school). Na, I just get a bachelors afterwards. However, the job market for software engineers is quite good, and the outlook is favorable for a job after I graduate, most of them starting at $60,000 a year or more. If I get into REAL trouble with debt, I think my parents could help me out with it, so its not like I don't have a safety net... but i'm making $30,000 a year right now part time which helps pay for my room and board. Once I go full time, I have no doubt I could hit $60,000 easily at least. | ||
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Neeh
Norway458 Posts
I'm curious if I'd done the same though, with an older woman..I somehow doubt it, but who knows! | ||
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Evilmystic
Russian Federation266 Posts
On August 03 2011 00:21 Cyx. wrote: I think you're taking this deeper than most people in the thread again. Well, I guess that's because my views on social norms may be considered pretty radical by most people. I don't think that's something bad though. | ||
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aebriol
Norway2066 Posts
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Malgrif
Canada1095 Posts
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Horst
338 Posts
On August 03 2011 00:38 Neeh wrote: Aslong as they're doing it willingly I don't see any problem. I'm curious if I'd done the same though, with an older woman..I somehow doubt it, but who knows! It depends how old of a woman... 50-60, sure. 60+.... not so much. | ||
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Horst
338 Posts
On August 03 2011 00:52 Malgrif wrote: i think it's less so about the idea of prostitution than it is the idea that some girls find it necessary to do this type of work because their degree is worthless. makes it sort of a giant scam by the government they should have known this going in, when getting degrees in things like psychology and other BS liberal arts fields. | ||
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W2
United States1177 Posts
How is this an ethical case? Both parties mutually benefit. The only argument against it... maybe that it is at society's expense? We would have to look at studies about crimes cases involved with this sugar daddy business. But I am not interested in TL discussion, since it's predominantly male. I'm hoping to know what females think about this, and as a student who will be $200,000 in debt when I graduate, I really hope such girls talked about in the article are a tiny minority. Girls under the anonymity of the internet, speak away. It'll be useless talking to the girls I know in real life because I won't know what they truly think. | ||
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dybydx
Canada1764 Posts
On August 03 2011 00:28 Vejovis wrote: I paid a similar amount in my first year, and 70% of it went towards paying for residence. Tuition for myself is only around 5,500 (Canadian $) but that doesn't include living expenses (moving away from home as I did). I got pretty lucky with scholarships, but even then I won't be graduating without being in debt. i agree with you and Cyx's estimates on school costs. for me, it was about $20k per year, +$20k for cost of a used car (vehicle is required for my co-op job, which in turn is a requirement for my degree). total cost of my education was around $100k, i graduated in 2008. | ||
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