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GypsyBeast
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada630 Posts
July 27 2011 05:58 GMT
#81
i could have sworn that it came out that this was a hoax. maybe im thinking of something else tho
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 27 2011 07:05 GMT
#82
On July 27 2011 14:58 GypsyBeast wrote:
i could have sworn that it came out that this was a hoax. maybe im thinking of something else tho


There have been a lot of Cold Fusion hoaxes. It's not hard to get confused, haha.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 27 2011 07:07 GMT
#83
On July 27 2011 12:41 onmach wrote:
It is obviously a scam. It has been done a thousands of times before and it will happen thousands of times more. Free energy. They just want investors to fork over money and then they will spend it as quickly as they can.

Even if by some miracle it is not a scam (it is) they will artificially keep the price of energy high so that they can rake in the money. Like how we recently gained the ability to make cheap artificial diamonds, but no one is selling them cheaply because they just protect their process and keep the price high and they get tons of money.


They can make "perfect" versions of most gemstones. It's far less difficult than people think. But diamonds are a nearly worthless commodity. The value is artificially held high because diamonds don't reenter the market often & most of the supply is held and only a small amount is let out.
Nightfall.589
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada766 Posts
July 27 2011 07:09 GMT
#84
Why are we discussing commercial implications of something that, as is inevitably the case with cold fusion, a hoax?

May as well be discussing the commercial implications of immortality magnets, or time travel.
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KlaCkoN
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Sweden1661 Posts
July 27 2011 07:18 GMT
#85
On July 27 2011 11:08 acker wrote:
If it hasn't been peer-reviewed and reproduced by an independent group, it deserves a high degree of skepticism.

I don't think this is likely to ever happen (even in the unlikely event it's not a hoax), I would assume they are looking to patent this, not to publish it. Meaning that the experimental details required to reproduce it won't be made public. We will know whether it works or not when the outcome of all these "investments" have become clear.
I sure it's fake but it's a bit strange how long it's been going on, if I remember correctly I read about this for the first time more than 6 months ago.
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Th1rdEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States1074 Posts
July 27 2011 07:28 GMT
#86
We shall see

There is a lot of technology that the public does not know about

What do you think they do at Area 51 or in the Swiss Laboratories that are talked about in Angels and Demons by Dan Brown etc etc etc

(These are just two examples I can think of that might be plausible, the truth is there are places we don't readily know about that are working on technologies that already "have" changed the world, just not to the public eye)

If it's true, then surely this will be groundbreaking. Finally something to keep the fucking oil and gas companies out of my homeland and beautiful farmlands/forests and break my own dependency on oil.
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Quotidian
Profile Joined August 2010
Norway1937 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 07:30:28
July 27 2011 07:29 GMT
#87
why don't people simply wait until october/november to dismiss this as a hoax? If it turns out to be real, you'll just look like another stupid, jaded skeptic. If you remain open-minded and it's a hoax, you lose nothing unless you've invested in the project.

Regarding the supposed efficency of the reactor - it's still cheaper and less polluting than coal, and nickel is abundant, which is the "big deal" in this case. It might not replace current means of creating energy, but it'll be a huge suppliment to it.
Traeon
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria366 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 07:38:47
July 27 2011 07:33 GMT
#88
[image loading]

Document is here: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BarnhartBtechnology.pdf
b0ngt0ss
Profile Joined July 2011
259 Posts
July 27 2011 07:39 GMT
#89
On July 27 2011 07:09 MangoTango wrote:
Free energy: too good to be true.

Cold Fusion/LENR is a scam.

Hot fusion has been 30 years away for 50 years now. Don't hold your breath for cold fusion.

are you familiar with Tesla?
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
July 27 2011 07:45 GMT
#90
On July 27 2011 16:33 Traeon wrote:
[image loading]

Document is here: http://www.lenr-canr.org/acrobat/BarnhartBtechnology.pdf


I can't actually find anything linking this document to the defense intelligence agency except that it says defense intelligence agency on it
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Geneq
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland165 Posts
July 27 2011 07:45 GMT
#91
On July 27 2011 16:28 Galaxy_Zerg wrote:
What do you think they do at Area 51 or in the Swiss Laboratories that are talked about in Angels and Demons by Dan Brown etc etc etc


Wait... what? "They" are doing something supersecret at Swiss Labs, because it says so in Dan Brown's book?
And let me guess, you know about the activity at Area51 because you've seen it on X-Files?
I hope you're trolling.
Phyrful
Profile Joined July 2011
United States248 Posts
July 27 2011 07:49 GMT
#92
On July 27 2011 16:45 garett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 16:28 Galaxy_Zerg wrote:
What do you think they do at Area 51 or in the Swiss Laboratories that are talked about in Angels and Demons by Dan Brown etc etc etc


Wait... what? "They" are doing something supersecret at Swiss Labs, because it says so in Dan Brown's book?
And let me guess, you know about the activity at Area51 because you've seen it on X-Files?
I hope you're trolling.


Lol Dan Brown's novels have so much technobabble; he uses the same plot formula for all his books while switching up the antagonistic deep dark conspiracy .
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XeliN
Profile Joined June 2009
United Kingdom1755 Posts
July 27 2011 08:04 GMT
#93
The guy even went out of his way to emphasise that those were merely 2 potentially plausible, and well known examples in order to avoid idiots like yourselves going "LOL DANBROWN AREA 51!"
Adonai bless
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 27 2011 09:10 GMT
#94
Ugh, I hate defending semi-trolls on stuff, but a point about Material Science.

Most of it, especially a whole lot of the important stuff, is not peer-reviewed. It's patented. As they're industrial processes, normally, where most of the work is done. That type of stuff isn't terribly peer-reviewable. It might be based off some ideas from journals, but huge amounts of that work is just simply proprietary information and very valuable.

Really, it's a matter of waiting until October to see if anything happens. In the mean time, hope really hard that the team working on the Polywell comes up big soon. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polywell Which actually is the closest to a functional Fusion reactor that's currently out there, for generating electricity.
Chewits
Profile Joined September 2006
Northern Ireland1200 Posts
July 27 2011 09:56 GMT
#95
I urge people to watch this video first before making any wild accusations and skepticism;




Roll on October.
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Grend
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
1600 Posts
July 27 2011 09:59 GMT
#96
Will it never end?
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thehitman
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
1105 Posts
July 27 2011 10:10 GMT
#97
wow this sound cool and promising. Hopefully it won't be patented and there will be a lot of competition, especially to the old and corrupt electricity manufacturers.
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 27 2011 10:15 GMT
#98
On July 27 2011 19:10 thehitman wrote:
wow this sound cool and promising. Hopefully it won't be patented and there will be a lot of competition, especially to the old and corrupt electricity manufacturers.


Please tell me you're not in the USA and have no clue that Electricity production is one of the most heavily regulated industries. Mostly the same in the rest of the world as well.
RedHair Outlaw
Profile Joined July 2011
United Kingdom11 Posts
July 27 2011 10:15 GMT
#99
The system looks solid. It just needs to integrate additional processes for the chemical bonds, namely hi gas based
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
July 27 2011 10:20 GMT
#100
As far as I'm concerned there's only two ways to do this kind of thing credibly. The first is to publish what you have done in the greatest detail possible and have a bunch of people reproduce your results.

The second one is to make a device that is commercially viable, make a ton of money and shut up any criticism that way.

Trying to prove that this couldn't possibly work is a waste of effort. I just don't think their work deserves any outside attention before it's distinguishable from all the cheap energy hoaxes out there.
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