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SafeAsCheese
Profile Joined June 2011
United States4924 Posts
July 26 2011 22:56 GMT
#41
I would love to see the fall of the oil industry if this is successful, especially Bush's face.
IzieBoy
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States865 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-26 23:02:56
July 26 2011 23:00 GMT
#42
On July 27 2011 07:45 Jetaap wrote:
Not worth considering until independant labs can reproduce the results, 99% a scam.


i concur. smart way of thinking. however, when independent labs have finished reproducing the results, most of the capital is already on the way in. it's best to just test the results out yourself. the academia is quite open and there should be some peer-reviewed publications, so at least the stuff made sense and plausible enough to be published somewhere. the authors may have also detailed some experiments on which to repeat or elaborate on.
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shell
Profile Joined October 2010
Portugal2722 Posts
July 26 2011 23:02 GMT
#43
This can't be true since they are still alive ;D

but I hope it's true of course!
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Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 26 2011 23:18 GMT
#44
On July 27 2011 07:56 SafeAsCheese wrote:
I would love to see the fall of the oil industry if this is successful, especially Bush's face.


Well, you're horribly uninformed, but I'm also sad to inform you that the oil industry won't end. Oil is used for a whole lot more than just cars. If personal transport ceased to use oil tomorrow, world oil demand would only go down around 40%. So, the spot price of oil would go down, but we'll still be drilling for oil for years & years to come.
decemvre
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania639 Posts
July 26 2011 23:28 GMT
#45
On July 27 2011 08:02 shell wrote:
This can't be true since they are still alive ;D

but I hope it's true of course!


Thats a very strong point you make.

"Free Energy" sounds very very scary though, doesn;t it ? At least in the short term it would be economic devastation.

Not only on the energy markets; everywhere !

If you have free energy, you can exploit anything, indefinitely, you can mine anything, you can grow and, transform and build anything for free.

Quickly all monetary units will simply devalue over night; If you no longer need to work 8 hours a day to receive monetary units what will 7 billion people do with their time ? 14 billion ? 28 billion in a few decades ?

Wealth will mean nothing still we have a number of jobs that require the practitioner to undertake massive education and preparation.

If someone sleeping all day will make as much as anyone else; if you can afford anything anywhere what will possibly motivate people to achieve wealth and greatness ?

Already we see that a lot of people enjoying "too much freedom" grow more and more stupid each day. Each generation seems to be more stupid than the previous one in all western countries.

My simple question is. How stupid will the 28 billion retards be in 2050 if this turns out to be true ?!?!?
decemberTV
Desti
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany138 Posts
July 26 2011 23:47 GMT
#46
On July 27 2011 06:32 ThaZenith wrote:
From wikipedia:
+ Show Spoiler +
Defkalion
Rossi has announced an agreement with the newly formed Greek company Defkalion Green Technologies as his first client.[70][71] According to Rossi, the agreement calls for delivery of a one megawatt heating plant, consisting of 300 reactors of 4 kW [16] connected in series and parallel. The plant which would supply heating for Defkalion's own purposes only, is supposed to be inaugurated in October 2011. [72]

Rossi says he will not be paid by Defkalion until the installation is delivered and works.[73] The company’s spokesman Symeon Tsalikoglou has confirmed the agreement.[74][75]

Defkalion has also been featured on national Greek television [76][77] and in the national business newspaper Ependitis.[78] According to Defkalion and Rossi the agreement gives exclusive rights for Defkalion to manufacture and sell the Energy Catalyzer throughout Greece.[74]

Until the October date rolls around, I'm going to remain optimistic.



A company, that claims to build a new factory for it, but they don't have a single open job position. Very serious(tm).
Neoto
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom19 Posts
July 27 2011 00:19 GMT
#47
If this is real, then I do wonder how long it will take for people to weaponise it. Probably not long.
ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
July 27 2011 00:24 GMT
#48
On July 27 2011 08:47 Desti wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 06:32 ThaZenith wrote:
From wikipedia:
+ Show Spoiler +
Defkalion
Rossi has announced an agreement with the newly formed Greek company Defkalion Green Technologies as his first client.[70][71] According to Rossi, the agreement calls for delivery of a one megawatt heating plant, consisting of 300 reactors of 4 kW [16] connected in series and parallel. The plant which would supply heating for Defkalion's own purposes only, is supposed to be inaugurated in October 2011. [72]

Rossi says he will not be paid by Defkalion until the installation is delivered and works.[73] The company’s spokesman Symeon Tsalikoglou has confirmed the agreement.[74][75]

Defkalion has also been featured on national Greek television [76][77] and in the national business newspaper Ependitis.[78] According to Defkalion and Rossi the agreement gives exclusive rights for Defkalion to manufacture and sell the Energy Catalyzer throughout Greece.[74]

Until the October date rolls around, I'm going to remain optimistic.



A company, that claims to build a new factory for it, but they don't have a single open job position. Very serious(tm).

It isn't a new factory. It's a small heating plant to heat their factories/whatever they have.
DeltruS
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada2214 Posts
July 27 2011 00:26 GMT
#49
We are gonna be able to eventually get an unlimitted supply of energy, and when that happens the world will change massively. Salt water purification on a massive scale and hydrogen production to replace gasoline will fix many of the problems of society.
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dudeman001
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States2412 Posts
July 27 2011 00:32 GMT
#50
On July 27 2011 09:19 Neoto wrote:
If this is real, then I do wonder how long it will take for people to weaponise it. Probably not long.

Defkalion Green Technologies has already named the catalyzer "Hyperion." It's only a matter of time. :3
Sup.
Desti
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany138 Posts
July 27 2011 00:42 GMT
#51
On July 27 2011 09:24 ThaZenith wrote:



A company, that claims to build a new factory for it, but they don't have a single open job position. Very serious(tm).

It isn't a new factory. It's a small heating plant to heat their factories/whatever they have.[/QUOTE]

What do they have?
The only content on their page is some colorfull presentation slides.
Where is the adress of their factory? Why are there no photos of the constructioning?
Taf the Ghost
Profile Joined December 2010
United States11751 Posts
July 27 2011 00:50 GMT
#52
On July 27 2011 09:32 dudeman001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 09:19 Neoto wrote:
If this is real, then I do wonder how long it will take for people to weaponise it. Probably not long.

Defkalion Green Technologies has already named the catalyzer "Hyperion." It's only a matter of time. :3


Wow, that's one way to tie a post into Starcraft, haha. Jim Raynor is an early investor.
Diks
Profile Joined January 2010
Belgium1880 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 00:59:37
July 27 2011 00:55 GMT
#53
Glad you made a thread on TL about this, I was thinking about doing the same.

This better not be an elaborated hoax as Rossi sold tons of e-cats to Greece. I don't have to remind you the economical situation the greece is in, but if this invention happen to REALLY work as they say; this is gonna be the most important invention since internet.
I'm crossing my fingers really hard, I don't want mass delusion on this one.

Also to note :Energy cartels are ruling the world right now, they won't let their supremacy get destroyed by some man and an invention that isn't even explainable with our curent physic understanding.

Here is a very interesting and educative talk about the topic : http://www.youtube.com/user/AlienScientist#p/u/2/FJ9DXAJudmg
I'm really curious and I'm gonna continue to follow this case.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
July 27 2011 00:59 GMT
#54
This would be amazing if true. I bet the guy would jump to the world's richest man quite quickly if he can single handedly replace the oil industry. But I will believe it when I see it, there have been too many hoaxes and scams regarding technology like this.
Nevy
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada169 Posts
July 27 2011 01:19 GMT
#55
So hydrogen ''reacts'' with nickel forming copper and it's not fusion?

lol?
Z3kk
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
4099 Posts
July 27 2011 01:21 GMT
#56
Yeah, I just want to see the mechanism of this. I hope it's not a hoax, but have no idea of knowing.
Failure is not falling down over and over again. Failure is refusing to get back up.
decemvre
Profile Joined May 2010
Romania639 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 01:45:39
July 27 2011 01:37 GMT
#57
Cambridge Professor Brian Josephson won the Nobel prize for Physics in 1973 for "for his theoretical predictions of the properties of a supercurrent through a tunnel barrier, in particular those phenomena which are generally known as the Josephson effects".
Nobel Prize Winning Physicist Blasts Mainstream Media For Ignoring Rossi's New Physics Busting E-Cat Technology.






Fisicists Sven Kullander and Hanno Essén interviewed about Focardi-Rossi energy catalyzer
decemberTV
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
July 27 2011 01:53 GMT
#58
Its a scam-- they don't even reveal the inside of the machine, their results have been rejected from scientific journals, and observers are not allowed to bring in anything to the demonstrations that would pick up gamma radiation/alpha particles/neutron emissions, etc, which would prove that fusion is occurring.

Its like the endless promises of perpetual motion machines in the early 20th century.
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NicolBolas
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1388 Posts
July 27 2011 01:55 GMT
#59
This thread is about the "energy catalyzer" (aka e-cat). It's (supposedly) a commercially viable "cold fusion" reactor (although it's apparently not really fusion, but LENR).


It is either fusion, or it isn't. It can't be "not really fusion." Either nuclei are being fused together, or they are not. Which is it?

The e-cat is a small (50 cc volume) reactor that carries out a poorly understood nickel-hydrogen reaction to create large amounts of heat


That's the part I don't buy.

There have been many inventions that have been made by accident, without really understanding the mechanisms behind it. But in modern society, that sort of thing is becoming rarer and rarer.

The likelihood of someone stumbling on to some way to produce fusion without knowing how they do it (ie: having some understanding of the physics behind it) is simply too remote for me to buy without some evidence.

I'd certainly like it to be true. But it seems too unlikely to lay any hopes on at this point.
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Desti
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany138 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 02:00:48
July 27 2011 01:56 GMT
#60
On July 27 2011 10:37 decemberTV wrote:
Cambridge Professor Brian Josephson won the Nobel prize for Physics in 1973 for "for his theoretical predictions of the properties of a supercurrent through a tunnel barrier, in particular those phenomena which are generally known as the Josephson effects".
Nobel Prize Winning Physicist Blasts Mainstream Media For Ignoring Rossi's New Physics Busting E-Cat Technology.



When you got a nobel prize for one special part, it does not mean you have knowledge of other kinds of physics. Josephson is already know for talking shit. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_David_Josephson#Parapsychology
Also look at his publications, after 1965 he has not published anything about physics, only religious comments.
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