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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45762 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-25 00:15:48
October 25 2018 00:13 GMT
#14181
On October 25 2018 07:12 JimmiC wrote:
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On October 25 2018 06:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 25 2018 04:19 Aveng3r wrote:
SCENARIO: today, you purchased a lottery ticket. A stranger offers you $100 for the ticket you just purchased. Do you sell or keep the ticket?


Definitely sell, although I wouldn't have bought the ticket in the first place. The lottery is a voluntary tax on people who are bad at math.

Depends when you buy it. If the odds are 1 in 303 million and prize is 1.6 bill which will net you a over 900 million after tax. It is technically a good, albeit crazy high risk investment.


Not compared to the stranger's offer, it isn't. Assuming those numbers are accurate, and assuming the ticket is free (if it isn't, that hurts the "keep the ticket" argument even more) the expected value is approximately $3 (900M payout * 1/303M chance) as opposed to an expected value of $100 ($100 * 1, since we're 100% guaranteed the money from the stranger).

If we're completely ignoring the stranger's offer, then it's mathematically a "good" bet (in terms of expected value) if the ticket costs less than $3. In practice, however, unless you're buying tens of millions of those tickets, you're essentially guaranteed to not win

I suppose that most lottery players pay a couple bucks just for the What If dream, as opposed to seriously thinking they have a chance.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 25 2018 00:46 GMT
#14182
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DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45762 Posts
October 25 2018 00:47 GMT
#14183
On October 25 2018 09:46 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2018 09:13 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 25 2018 07:12 JimmiC wrote:
On October 25 2018 06:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 25 2018 04:19 Aveng3r wrote:
SCENARIO: today, you purchased a lottery ticket. A stranger offers you $100 for the ticket you just purchased. Do you sell or keep the ticket?


Definitely sell, although I wouldn't have bought the ticket in the first place. The lottery is a voluntary tax on people who are bad at math.

Depends when you buy it. If the odds are 1 in 303 million and prize is 1.6 bill which will net you a over 900 million after tax. It is technically a good, albeit crazy high risk investment.


Not compared to the stranger's offer, it isn't. Assuming those numbers are accurate, and assuming the ticket is free (if it isn't, that hurts the "keep the ticket" argument even more) the expected value is approximately $3 (900M payout * 1/303M chance) as opposed to an expected value of $100 ($100 * 1, since we're 100% guaranteed the money from the stranger).

If we're completely ignoring the stranger's offer, then it's mathematically a "good" bet (in terms of expected value) if the ticket costs less than $3. In practice, however, unless you're buying tens of millions of those tickets, you're essentially guaranteed to not win

I suppose that most lottery players pay a couple bucks just for the What If dream, as opposed to seriously thinking they have a chance.

Oh yeah I said to take it early. I was referring to you calling it a voluntary tax on people not good at math. While that's true most of the time not when it gets high enough.
Everything else were in lockstep.


Gotcha
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43964 Posts
October 25 2018 03:13 GMT
#14184
On October 25 2018 07:12 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 25 2018 06:29 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
On October 25 2018 04:19 Aveng3r wrote:
SCENARIO: today, you purchased a lottery ticket. A stranger offers you $100 for the ticket you just purchased. Do you sell or keep the ticket?


Definitely sell, although I wouldn't have bought the ticket in the first place. The lottery is a voluntary tax on people who are bad at math.

Depends when you buy it. If the odds are 1 in 303 million and prize is 1.6 bill which will net you a over 900 million after tax. It is technically a good, albeit crazy high risk investment.

Assuming no splitting the prize.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 25 2018 03:40 GMT
#14185
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Aveng3r
Profile Joined February 2012
United States2411 Posts
October 25 2018 13:59 GMT
#14186
On October 25 2018 06:36 Sbrubbles wrote:
Don't sell. The guy would never offer you those 100 bucks unless he had inside information that it's a winning ticket.

No such stipulation! the hypothetical is just meant to show how people don't always act rationally.
I carve marble busts of assassinated world leaders - PM for a quote
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18857 Posts
October 25 2018 15:27 GMT
#14187
The real fun starts once one acknowledges that assuming that folks act rationally is itself oftentimes irrational
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 27 2018 16:01 GMT
#14188
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Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5120 Posts
October 28 2018 03:48 GMT
#14189
How do you let the person know who goes pooping next (assuming an arbitrary amount of time passes between you and the next person) that you were the previous pooper?
I.e. prove that you were the the n-1th pooper for the n-th pooper.
Taxes are for Terrans
Starlightsun
Profile Blog Joined June 2016
United States1405 Posts
October 28 2018 04:11 GMT
#14190
Spell your name with the poop.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18280 Posts
October 28 2018 06:09 GMT
#14191
On October 28 2018 12:48 Uldridge wrote:
How do you let the person know who goes pooping next (assuming an arbitrary amount of time passes between you and the next person) that you were the previous pooper?
I.e. prove that you were the the n-1th pooper for the n-th pooper.

Write it on the first sheet of toilet paper after you're done. Won't work for girls.
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
October 28 2018 11:23 GMT
#14192
Won't work with men with proper hygiene either.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
October 28 2018 12:27 GMT
#14193
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Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
October 28 2018 12:50 GMT
#14194
You wipe off your penis after you pee. Thus the next one (even if male) to use the toiletpaper might not be the next pooper.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain18280 Posts
October 28 2018 13:20 GMT
#14195
This is a public toilet. Men don't go into the cubicles to pee. Moreover, men don't wipe their penis with toilet paper. At least, I have never seen anybody do that. Just shake it off and tuck it back into your trousers and all is good.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9296 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-28 13:52:02
October 28 2018 13:41 GMT
#14196
At least, I have never seen anybody do that.


Can I ask what you did see?

Ohhh, you mean those who don't go in into the cubicles. But how can you be sure about those who do?
You're now breathing manually
Ghostcom
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark4783 Posts
October 28 2018 13:53 GMT
#14197
On October 28 2018 22:20 Acrofales wrote:
This is a public toilet. Men don't go into the cubicles to pee. Moreover, men don't wipe their penis with toilet paper. At least, I have never seen anybody do that. Just shake it off and tuck it back into your trousers and all is good.


Wait until you get older and encounter the blessings of an enlarged prostate.
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
October 28 2018 14:18 GMT
#14198
So it's ok to just wipe using your pants?
xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
October 28 2018 14:39 GMT
#14199
you need to fuck it while young to increase its stamina.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
AbouSV
Profile Joined October 2014
Germany1278 Posts
October 28 2018 17:32 GMT
#14200
To fuck your pants? :s
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