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Stijx
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States804 Posts
June 21 2011 20:08 GMT
#41
On June 22 2011 04:58 Phelski wrote:
obama's health care is this
1)make everyone buy private health care
2) if they dont, or cannot afford it, then they get taxed/ sued


...stop watching Fox.

But on topic, this is really sad. As a European living in America I can see that what this country needs is some socialistic aspects, nobody can pay for College or Healthcare and yet they'd rather have low taxes than make that affordable. I don't think the red scare ever ended here, my wishes won't ever happen. Again, sad.
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
June 21 2011 20:08 GMT
#42
Didn't take long for this to turn into a US bashing thread. Is this a sad reality? Yes. Is EU style healthcare workable in a country the size of the US? Lol. Are there worse things that could happen? Yes.

Sadly we are a long ways from having a workable health care system that doesn't cause prices to rise.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 21 2011 20:09 GMT
#43


John Q anyone?

In any case, that's a large shame, yet... it's not surprising.
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domovoi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1478 Posts
June 21 2011 20:09 GMT
#44
On June 22 2011 04:56 wzzit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 04:50 trainRiderJ wrote:
Where I live the people without insurance just use the emergency room or a free clinic. Do they not have those in New York?


In what part of the country are emergency rooms free of cost?

All of them? Well, they'll send you a bill but they can't force you to pay them. It will ruin your credit, but so does going to jail.
GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
June 21 2011 20:10 GMT
#45
On June 22 2011 04:39 Carras wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 04:37 Skilledblob wrote:
On June 22 2011 04:35 Pawsom wrote:
On June 22 2011 04:34 Carras wrote:
Only in America.



Well yeah, everywhere else provides proper health care


at least every other first world country



many "third" world countries do too.. if he had enough money to travel , he should just gone to cuba and got great health care.. also here in Argentina


Can't go to Cuba from the US, would have to go to Canada first and then go from there. Also, there are some islands (forgot which ones, owned by Britain I think) that allow US citizens to travel to Cuba from them.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Nightfly
Profile Joined May 2011
150 Posts
June 21 2011 20:10 GMT
#46
On June 22 2011 04:51 Bibdy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 04:45 Nero. wrote:
i dont get why americans are trying so hard to not get a statutory health insurance system.
In most of Europe we have it for such a long time and nobody here is walking around in chains or lost their freedom because of it

it just feels like the states act very "medieval" about this topic





Because America, being the beacon of capitalism, has this propensity to believe that EVERYTHING should be run by private organizations, rather than the government. They don't take the time to realize that when you take an industry like healthcare and put it in the hands of financiers, accountants, corporations and general bean-counters who's only concern is profitability, you've completely eliminated humanity and compassion from the equation.

Capitalism works great when you've got products/services to sell. Not so great when someone's livelihood is on the line.


rofl.

dont you need food as well to survive? can you buy food from CORPORATIONS or do you need it provided by your friendly government?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 20:13:05
June 21 2011 20:11 GMT
#47
On June 22 2011 05:10 Nightfly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 04:51 Bibdy wrote:
On June 22 2011 04:45 Nero. wrote:
i dont get why americans are trying so hard to not get a statutory health insurance system.
In most of Europe we have it for such a long time and nobody here is walking around in chains or lost their freedom because of it

it just feels like the states act very "medieval" about this topic





Because America, being the beacon of capitalism, has this propensity to believe that EVERYTHING should be run by private organizations, rather than the government. They don't take the time to realize that when you take an industry like healthcare and put it in the hands of financiers, accountants, corporations and general bean-counters who's only concern is profitability, you've completely eliminated humanity and compassion from the equation.

Capitalism works great when you've got products/services to sell. Not so great when someone's livelihood is on the line.


rofl.

dont you need food as well to survive? can you buy food from CORPORATIONS or do you need it provided by your friendly government?


The corporations are the middle-man, they're not doing very nice things to the bovine industry, dairy or agriculture industry.

Good try.
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GreEny K
Profile Joined February 2008
Germany7312 Posts
June 21 2011 20:11 GMT
#48
On June 22 2011 05:10 Nightfly wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 04:51 Bibdy wrote:
On June 22 2011 04:45 Nero. wrote:
i dont get why americans are trying so hard to not get a statutory health insurance system.
In most of Europe we have it for such a long time and nobody here is walking around in chains or lost their freedom because of it

it just feels like the states act very "medieval" about this topic





Because America, being the beacon of capitalism, has this propensity to believe that EVERYTHING should be run by private organizations, rather than the government. They don't take the time to realize that when you take an industry like healthcare and put it in the hands of financiers, accountants, corporations and general bean-counters who's only concern is profitability, you've completely eliminated humanity and compassion from the equation.

Capitalism works great when you've got products/services to sell. Not so great when someone's livelihood is on the line.


rofl.

dont you need food as well to survive? can you buy food from CORPORATIONS or do you need it provided by your friendly government?


Don't know why you're being a dick to him, hes completely right.
Why would you ever choose failure, when success is an option.
Treemonkeys
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States2082 Posts
June 21 2011 20:12 GMT
#49
On June 22 2011 05:08 On_Slaught wrote:
Didn't take long for this to turn into a US bashing thread. Is this a sad reality? Yes. Is EU style healthcare workable in a country the size of the US? Lol. Are there worse things that could happen? Yes.

Sadly we are a long ways from having a workable health care system that doesn't cause prices to rise.



The real question is if EU style healthcare is workable in a country that has a military budget greater than the rest of the world combined. Everything wrong with healthcare in this country is because of the government, they aren't going to fix it.
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rebuffering
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada2436 Posts
June 21 2011 20:13 GMT
#50
that's terrible, sometimes i just want to punch life in the face
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Popss
Profile Joined April 2011
Sweden176 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 20:13:51
June 21 2011 20:13 GMT
#51
On June 22 2011 05:08 On_Slaught wrote:
Didn't take long for this to turn into a US bashing thread. Is this a sad reality? Yes. Is EU style healthcare workable in a country the size of the US? Lol. Are there worse things that could happen? Yes.

Sadly we are a long ways from having a workable health care system that doesn't cause prices to rise.


Well most people consider health care a human right rather than a consumer product so they feel pretty strongly about this.

Health care and death penalty is basically what gets the bashing rolling ^^
Dagobert
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands1858 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 20:16:14
June 21 2011 20:13 GMT
#52
The doc who treated him seemed to be a major prick. Accusing the guy of "manipulating the system" when it's pretty much his only choice - and when the doc's job is merely to treat the guy. "You should have died a painful death like the rest of you scum" or what was he thinking? He is getting paid anyway so what the fuck does he care where his money comes from? And why kick someone who is already down?

Whoever needs medical care here gets it. Not only if they can pay for it, but simply because we have chosen to create a society where we, if we somehow ended up like that guy, would receive the same support he does now.
domovoi
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1478 Posts
June 21 2011 20:14 GMT
#53
On June 22 2011 05:11 GreEny K wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 05:10 Nightfly wrote:
On June 22 2011 04:51 Bibdy wrote:
On June 22 2011 04:45 Nero. wrote:
i dont get why americans are trying so hard to not get a statutory health insurance system.
In most of Europe we have it for such a long time and nobody here is walking around in chains or lost their freedom because of it

it just feels like the states act very "medieval" about this topic





Because America, being the beacon of capitalism, has this propensity to believe that EVERYTHING should be run by private organizations, rather than the government. They don't take the time to realize that when you take an industry like healthcare and put it in the hands of financiers, accountants, corporations and general bean-counters who's only concern is profitability, you've completely eliminated humanity and compassion from the equation.

Capitalism works great when you've got products/services to sell. Not so great when someone's livelihood is on the line.


rofl.

dont you need food as well to survive? can you buy food from CORPORATIONS or do you need it provided by your friendly government?


Don't know why you're being a dick to him, hes completely right.

He's in fact completely wrong. Healthcare costs are in fact skyrocketing because there is generally too much compassion in how healthcare services are distributed. And, yes, profitability also drives this as well. The UK has a much better system where they refuse to fund any service that can't be proved to extend a person's life.
wzzit
Profile Joined February 2011
United States201 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 20:14:45
June 21 2011 20:14 GMT
#54
On June 22 2011 05:09 domovoi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 04:56 wzzit wrote:
On June 22 2011 04:50 trainRiderJ wrote:
Where I live the people without insurance just use the emergency room or a free clinic. Do they not have those in New York?


In what part of the country are emergency rooms free of cost?

All of them? Well, they'll send you a bill but they can't force you to pay them. It will ruin your credit, but so does going to jail.


Dude... what? Emergency rooms are free because you can ruin your credit/go to jail instead of paying for them? Is that what you're trying to tell me?

I guess in your mind everything in society is free because you can always ruin your credit instead of paying!
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts
June 21 2011 20:14 GMT
#55
Something's got to be done..... NOW!

If it's come down to a man thinking "I'll commit a felony so I can get medicare." Then.... we got an issue on our hands....

Come on America, we got to start producing some serious POSITIVE results....
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-21 20:15:07
June 21 2011 20:14 GMT
#56
Ummm...

"3 hots and a cot" has been a reason for some desperate men to get themselves into jail ever since jails stop being so horrible as far as feeding and keeping you clean and stuff.

So, uh, what does this have to do with the state of America? Leechers will leech whatever they think they need to leech.

The corporations are the middle-man, they're not doing very nice things to the bovine industry, dairy or agriculture industry.

Good try.


lol okay malthus
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instantcold
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States38 Posts
June 21 2011 20:14 GMT
#57
On June 22 2011 05:08 Adila wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 22 2011 04:58 Phelski wrote:
obama's health care is this
1)make everyone buy private health care
2) if they dont, or cannot afford it, then they get taxed/ sued


You mean the Healthcare plan Democrats had to butcher to get a couple of Republican votes?

The original version, even with its flaws, was much better than the clusterfuck that was created because of stupid compromises.



The only compromise the democrats did was take out "free healthcare for everyone clause" the government run healthcare program. Which that program would have destroyed and bankrupt every single health insurance company.
Hey, You dont pwn me, I pwn me
TheKefka
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Croatia11752 Posts
June 21 2011 20:14 GMT
#58
On June 22 2011 05:08 On_Slaught wrote:
Didn't take long for this to turn into a US bashing thread. Is this a sad reality? Yes. Is EU style healthcare workable in a country the size of the US? Lol. Are there worse things that could happen? Yes.

Sadly we are a long ways from having a workable health care system that doesn't cause prices to rise.


Well Germany isn't really small you know.
I could state the obvious that if the majority of the budget wouldn't go to the military than I'm sure that you could work something out.Hey,maybe even throw in a free college education in there

But to be fair,in light of the 14 trillion dollar debt USA faces,there will need to be more structural issues resolved before healthcare and education.
Cackle™
Noped
Profile Joined December 2010
United States14 Posts
June 21 2011 20:15 GMT
#59
On June 22 2011 05:08 On_Slaught wrote:
Didn't take long for this to turn into a US bashing thread. Is this a sad reality? Yes. Is EU style healthcare workable in a country the size of the US? Lol. Are there worse things that could happen? Yes.

Sadly we are a long ways from having a workable health care system that doesn't cause prices to rise.


It's really only because of people in a state of mind like this that a "workable" health care system doesn't already exist in the US. "Doesn't cause prices to rise" is as generic and short sighted as you can possibly get on the subject. Prices of what? Are you talking about taxes? Government spending? Are you talking about the price of insurance itself?

You'll never have a progressive community as long as it's citizens continually think that "we are a long ways" from something that is realistically feasible in every way. How closed minded can we get?
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AeonStrife
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States918 Posts
June 21 2011 20:15 GMT
#60
Its only going to get a lot worse/ridiculous before it gets better. Expect to hear more stories of the same caliber in the coming years.
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