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Nigerian "Baby Factory" Raided.

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Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
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Last Edited: 2011-06-02 07:27:35
June 02 2011 07:23 GMT
#1
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20110601/wl_africa_afp/nigeriacrimechildtrafficking_20110601143218

Nigerian police have raided a home allegedly being used to force teenage girls to have babies that were then offered for sale for trafficking or other purposes, authorities said on Wednesday.


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LAGOS (AFP) – Nigerian police have raided a home allegedly being used to force teenage girls to have babies that were then offered for sale for trafficking or other purposes, authorities said on Wednesday.

"We stormed the premises of the Cross Foundation in Aba three days ago following a report that pregnant girls aged between 15 and 17 are being made to make babies for the proprietor," said Bala Hassan, police commissioner for Abia state in the country's southeast.

"We rescued 32 pregnant girls and arrested the proprietor who is undergoing interrogation over allegations that he normally sells the babies to people who may use them for rituals or other purposes."

Some of the girls told police they had been offered to sell their babies for between 25,000 and 30,000 naira (192 dollars) depending on the sex of the baby.

The babies would then be sold to buyers for anything from 300,000 naira to one million naira (1,920 and 6,400 dollars) each, according to a state agency fighting human trafficking in Nigeria, the National Agency for the Prohibition of Trafficking in Persons (NAPTIP).

The girls were expected to be transferred to the regional NAPTIP offices in Enugu on Wednesday, the regional head Ijeoma Okoronkwo told AFP.

Hassan said the owner of the "illegal baby factory" is likely to face child abuse and human trafficking charges. Buying or selling of babies is illegal in Nigeria and can carry a 14-year jail term.
"We have so many cases going on in court right now," said Okoronkwo.

In 2008, police raids revealed an alleged network of such clinics, dubbed baby "farms" or "factories" in the local press.

Cases of child abuse and people trafficking are common in West Africa. Some children are bought from their families to for use as labour in plantations, mines, factories or as domestic help.

Others are sold into prostitution while a few are either killed or tortured in black magic rituals. NAPTIP says it has also seen a trend of illegal adoption.

"There is a problem of illict adoption and people not knowing the right way to adopt children," said Okoronkwo.

Human trafficking is ranked the third most common crime after economic fraud and drug trafficking in the country, according to UNESCO.


Put simply, this is one of the most disgusting things I've ever read. It ranks up there with South African men raping toddlers because of their belief that sex with a virgin could cure AIDS.

I truly hope that somewhere in the future the backwards continent of Africa can receive real humanitarian aid and reparations for the hundreds of years of social and economic damage the rest of the world has caused it. It seems like many of the most terrible articles I read are fueled by the ever pressing poverty and hunger and disease that grips the African continent. I'm interested in TL's opinion as to whether or not the hundreds of western charities set up to benefit Africa can, have, or will make a real difference. Is a larger, international, government effort needed?

Maybe it's wrong to bring this in this direction, but: does reading an article related to sexual slavery change anyones opinion of our use of the word "rape"? Yes it's off topic, but I find it impossible not to bring up given the heated debate thats taken place here recently. Personally, I find it hard to justify the use of the word in a casual sense when it is attached (regardless of context) to such awful acts. It seems incredibly naive to me that people would try to deny the connection. Heres a similar example: would we accept it if a caster or gamer said " that game was a holocaust!". Yes, that word has other definitions than the mechanical slaughter of jews- just like "rape" is synonymous with "pillaging"- but can you deny that theres an obvious and uncomfortable anti-semetic tone to it? I personally feel that our use of the word rape has a similar anti-feminine tone. I'm interested in what difference people see between the two.

Please share your thoughts on the story, Africa in general, and language. I'd really like to see a civil discussion.
VIB
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil3567 Posts
June 02 2011 07:45 GMT
#2
On June 02 2011 16:23 Lexpar wrote:
whether or not the hundreds of western charities set up to benefit Africa can, have, or will make a real difference. Is a larger, international, government effort needed?
Wouldn't working with the government on deals that benefit both sides to help bring businesses and entrepreneurs to the country to help develop it. Be better than to just throw money at the problem? You'd get money from charities then to what exactly with it?
Great people talk about ideas. Average people talk about things. Small people talk about other people.
exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
June 02 2011 07:47 GMT
#3
Aah the old theory of demand/supply put into practice:
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Its nothing more than
"Free market capitalism consists of a free-price system where supply and demand are allowed to reach their point of equilibrium without intervention by the government. Productive enterprises are privately-owned, and the role of the state is limited to protecting property rights".

And charities will never solve anything. What we need is people who are able to help themselves and who can refuse getting help from above. The help that comes from above is also power that comes from above and then you are suddenly enslaved.

There is only one way to help people if they really wants it and that is by getting information out to them, then get them organised, then they must show each other that they are not there for self interests but that they support each other and then you can throw down a revolution, to make a society with no servants and no bosses.
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
meep
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1699 Posts
June 02 2011 07:47 GMT
#4
Wow I never have even heard of anything like this before. That's pretty insane.
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nttea
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Sweden4353 Posts
June 02 2011 07:48 GMT
#5
This can't be true... I'm just gonna assume it's made up somewhere. Don't need to believe shit like this, true or not if i believe in it i lose.
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10682 Posts
June 02 2011 07:49 GMT
#6
Wow this makes me sick to my stomach, using babies for rituals or other purposes? So sick omg... some of the people in this world are literally out of they're minds...
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LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 07:51:03
June 02 2011 07:49 GMT
#7
On June 02 2011 16:23 Lexpar wrote:

I truly hope that somewhere in the future the backwards continent of Africa can receive real humanitarian aid and reparations for the hundreds of years of social and economic damage the rest of the world has caused it. It seems like many of the most terrible articles I read are fueled by the ever pressing poverty and hunger and disease that grips the African continent. I'm interested in TL's opinion as to whether or not the hundreds of western charities set up to benefit Africa can, have, or will make a real difference. Is a larger, international, government effort needed?


this brings to mind a quote about giving a man a fish

but i don't think that's the real reason these people are hungry (i think it's their local brothers with guns)
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
June 02 2011 07:51 GMT
#8
On June 02 2011 16:49 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 16:23 Lexpar wrote:

I truly hope that somewhere in the future the backwards continent of Africa can receive real humanitarian aid and reparations for the hundreds of years of social and economic damage the rest of the world has caused it. It seems like many of the most terrible articles I read are fueled by the ever pressing poverty and hunger and disease that grips the African continent. I'm interested in TL's opinion as to whether or not the hundreds of western charities set up to benefit Africa can, have, or will make a real difference. Is a larger, international, government effort needed?


this brings to mind a quote about giving a man a fish

but i don't think that's the real reason these people are hungry


Yea give a man a fish after you stole his resources and people and ignored genocides (slaves)
A fish is toooo much to ask for
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 07:55:57
June 02 2011 07:53 GMT
#9
On June 02 2011 16:23 Lexpar wrote:
I truly hope that somewhere in the future the backwards continent of Africa can receive real humanitarian aid and reparations for the hundreds of years of social and economic damage the rest of the world has caused it. It seems like many of the most terrible articles I read are fueled by the ever pressing poverty and hunger and disease that grips the African continent. I'm interested in TL's opinion as to whether or not the hundreds of western charities set up to benefit Africa can, have, or will make a real difference. Is a larger, international, government effort needed?

Hundreds of years of social and economic damage the world has caused it? What does this mean? African countries recieved and are recieving much more humanitarian aid than any cuontry in the world. Amount of money which was basicly given to Africa for free is incredible and as we can see, almost all of it went to waste. Africa needs help, but definitely not the kind of help it's been recieving for years. And most definitely not from some world government.


Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
exeexe
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Denmark937 Posts
June 02 2011 07:53 GMT
#10
aaah the fish story

Take away the fish so the man cant supply himself anymore, then give him a factory so he can get enslaved there by a boss.
And never forget, its always easier to throw a bomb downstairs than up. - George Orwell
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
June 02 2011 07:54 GMT
#11
On June 02 2011 16:51 baoluvboa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 16:49 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
On June 02 2011 16:23 Lexpar wrote:

I truly hope that somewhere in the future the backwards continent of Africa can receive real humanitarian aid and reparations for the hundreds of years of social and economic damage the rest of the world has caused it. It seems like many of the most terrible articles I read are fueled by the ever pressing poverty and hunger and disease that grips the African continent. I'm interested in TL's opinion as to whether or not the hundreds of western charities set up to benefit Africa can, have, or will make a real difference. Is a larger, international, government effort needed?


this brings to mind a quote about giving a man a fish

but i don't think that's the real reason these people are hungry


Yea give a man a fish after you stole his resources and people and ignored genocides (slaves)
A fish is toooo much to ask for


we stole their resources and people? slavery in the US was a long time ago.. unless you are talking about something else?
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 07:56:30
June 02 2011 07:55 GMT
#12
On June 02 2011 16:53 ondik wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 16:23 Lexpar wrote:
I truly hope that somewhere in the future the backwards continent of Africa can receive real humanitarian aid and reparations for the hundreds of years of social and economic damage the rest of the world has caused it. It seems like many of the most terrible articles I read are fueled by the ever pressing poverty and hunger and disease that grips the African continent. I'm interested in TL's opinion as to whether or not the hundreds of western charities set up to benefit Africa can, have, or will make a real difference. Is a larger, international, government effort needed?

Hundreds of years of social and economic damage the rold has caused it? What does this mean? African countries recieved and are recieving much more humanitarian aid than any cuontry in the world. Amount of money which was basicly given to Africa for free is incredible and as we can see, almost all of it went to waste. Africa needs help, but definitely not the kind of help it's been recieving for years. And most definitely not from some world government.


Because the blatant inequality in wealth distribution of the world is caused by racial superiority right?
Blacks are clearly innately inferior which is why they are poor and don't deserve foreign aids. Imperialism didn't exist at all.

we stole their resources and people? slavery in the US was a long time ago.. unless you are talking about something else?

We study history for a reason. The impact of slavery and imperialism has lasting impacts which is evident by today's standing in wealth.
youngminii
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Australia7514 Posts
June 02 2011 07:57 GMT
#13
This makes me sad, it truly does. I hope someday I'll get to see all the third world countries pull themselves out of the rut that the rest of the world put them in. At least the Nigerian police are actually raiding places like these, instead of falling into corruption.
lalala
Lexpar
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
1813 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 08:00:29
June 02 2011 07:59 GMT
#14
On June 02 2011 16:55 baoluvboa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 16:53 ondik wrote:
On June 02 2011 16:23 Lexpar wrote:
I truly hope that somewhere in the future the backwards continent of Africa can receive real humanitarian aid and reparations for the hundreds of years of social and economic damage the rest of the world has caused it. It seems like many of the most terrible articles I read are fueled by the ever pressing poverty and hunger and disease that grips the African continent. I'm interested in TL's opinion as to whether or not the hundreds of western charities set up to benefit Africa can, have, or will make a real difference. Is a larger, international, government effort needed?

Hundreds of years of social and economic damage the rold has caused it? What does this mean? African countries recieved and are recieving much more humanitarian aid than any cuontry in the world. Amount of money which was basicly given to Africa for free is incredible and as we can see, almost all of it went to waste. Africa needs help, but definitely not the kind of help it's been recieving for years. And most definitely not from some world government.


Because the blatant inequality in wealth distribution of the world is caused by racial superiority right?
Blacks are clearly innately inferior which is why they are poor and don't deserve foreign aids. Imperialism didn't exist at all.

we stole their resources and people? slavery in the US was a long time ago.. unless you are talking about something else?

We study history for a reason. The impact of slavery and imperialism has lasting impacts which is evident by today's standing in wealth.


Hey man, please clean up your tone. I agree with the point you are trying to make (it's in the OP), but theres no need to treat anyone like that. Asking those leading questions that imply racism is very disrespectful.

I'd really like to see a civil discussion.


Also in the op.
LaSt)ChAnCe
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States2179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 08:05:45
June 02 2011 08:01 GMT
#15
On June 02 2011 16:55 baoluvboa wrote:
Because the blatant inequality in wealth distribution of the world is caused by racial superiority right?
Blacks are clearly innately inferior which is why they are poor and don't deserve foreign aids. Imperialism didn't exist at all.

i believe you are the only person talking about racism.. where are you drawing these from? but if you want, i will bite... they are receiving more foreign aid than most, if not all, countries


We study history for a reason. The impact of slavery and imperialism has lasting impacts which is evident by today's standing in wealth.

i think it's less of an issue of past slavery affecting their current position than it is a failure to adapt to a changing world
baoluvboa
Profile Joined December 2010
743 Posts
June 02 2011 08:01 GMT
#16
On June 02 2011 16:59 Lexpar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 16:55 baoluvboa wrote:
On June 02 2011 16:53 ondik wrote:
On June 02 2011 16:23 Lexpar wrote:
I truly hope that somewhere in the future the backwards continent of Africa can receive real humanitarian aid and reparations for the hundreds of years of social and economic damage the rest of the world has caused it. It seems like many of the most terrible articles I read are fueled by the ever pressing poverty and hunger and disease that grips the African continent. I'm interested in TL's opinion as to whether or not the hundreds of western charities set up to benefit Africa can, have, or will make a real difference. Is a larger, international, government effort needed?

Hundreds of years of social and economic damage the rold has caused it? What does this mean? African countries recieved and are recieving much more humanitarian aid than any cuontry in the world. Amount of money which was basicly given to Africa for free is incredible and as we can see, almost all of it went to waste. Africa needs help, but definitely not the kind of help it's been recieving for years. And most definitely not from some world government.


Because the blatant inequality in wealth distribution of the world is caused by racial superiority right?
Blacks are clearly innately inferior which is why they are poor and don't deserve foreign aids. Imperialism didn't exist at all.

we stole their resources and people? slavery in the US was a long time ago.. unless you are talking about something else?

We study history for a reason. The impact of slavery and imperialism has lasting impacts which is evident by today's standing in wealth.


Hey man, please clean up your tone. I agree with the point you are trying to make (it's in the OP), but theres no need to treat anyone like that. Asking those leading questions that imply racism is very disrespectful.

Show nested quote +
I'd really like to see a civil discussion.


Also in the op.


You are right. I was just caught off guard and frustrated by some of the comments.
ondik
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Czech Republic2908 Posts
June 02 2011 08:03 GMT
#17
On June 02 2011 16:55 baoluvboa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 16:53 ondik wrote:
On June 02 2011 16:23 Lexpar wrote:
I truly hope that somewhere in the future the backwards continent of Africa can receive real humanitarian aid and reparations for the hundreds of years of social and economic damage the rest of the world has caused it. It seems like many of the most terrible articles I read are fueled by the ever pressing poverty and hunger and disease that grips the African continent. I'm interested in TL's opinion as to whether or not the hundreds of western charities set up to benefit Africa can, have, or will make a real difference. Is a larger, international, government effort needed?

Hundreds of years of social and economic damage the rold has caused it? What does this mean? African countries recieved and are recieving much more humanitarian aid than any cuontry in the world. Amount of money which was basicly given to Africa for free is incredible and as we can see, almost all of it went to waste. Africa needs help, but definitely not the kind of help it's been recieving for years. And most definitely not from some world government.


Because the blatant inequality in wealth distribution of the world is caused by racial superiority right?
Blacks are clearly innately inferior which is why they are poor and don't deserve foreign aids. Imperialism didn't exist at all.

we stole their resources and people? slavery in the US was a long time ago.. unless you are talking about something else?

We study history for a reason. The impact of slavery and imperialism has lasting impacts which is evident by today's standing in wealth.


Why there's very little economic growth when there's no slavery, no imperialism and bilions of dollars pumped every now and then?
Bisu. The one and only. // Save the cheerreaver, save the world (of SC2)
ComusLoM
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Norway3547 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-02 08:05:20
June 02 2011 08:04 GMT
#18
On June 02 2011 16:55 baoluvboa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 16:53 ondik wrote:
On June 02 2011 16:23 Lexpar wrote:
I truly hope that somewhere in the future the backwards continent of Africa can receive real humanitarian aid and reparations for the hundreds of years of social and economic damage the rest of the world has caused it. It seems like many of the most terrible articles I read are fueled by the ever pressing poverty and hunger and disease that grips the African continent. I'm interested in TL's opinion as to whether or not the hundreds of western charities set up to benefit Africa can, have, or will make a real difference. Is a larger, international, government effort needed?

Hundreds of years of social and economic damage the rold has caused it? What does this mean? African countries recieved and are recieving much more humanitarian aid than any cuontry in the world. Amount of money which was basicly given to Africa for free is incredible and as we can see, almost all of it went to waste. Africa needs help, but definitely not the kind of help it's been recieving for years. And most definitely not from some world government.


Because the blatant inequality in wealth distribution of the world is caused by racial superiority right?
Blacks are clearly innately inferior which is why they are poor and don't deserve foreign aids. Imperialism didn't exist at all.

we stole their resources and people? slavery in the US was a long time ago.. unless you are talking about something else?

We study history for a reason. The impact of slavery and imperialism has lasting impacts which is evident by today's standing in wealth.

Slavery has nothing to do with it, and neither has Imperialism unless you're talking about the premature end of it. If you look at it from an African economic perspective slavery was a good trade given slaves were very often sold by Africans themselves. This has nothing to do with race it has to do with a culture that can't sustain modern life because of the innate corruption, racism, religious discrimination and violence associated with African cultures (so okay it has a little to do with Racism but not White supremacy). The worst thing the European powers did to Africa was to leave, especially at the time they did. You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them govern well. The European colonies did neither, power was just handed over arbitrarily in most cases and it went to shit really fast, this is just another example of a Culture not fit for modern society.
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
June 02 2011 08:07 GMT
#19
Urgh. This is so disgusting....... My soul just died a little.
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TDN
Profile Joined May 2011
United States133 Posts
June 02 2011 08:07 GMT
#20
Life is not fair. It's life. This world sucks.
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