On June 01 2011 20:42 veljanov wrote: in sweden we have theese chocolate balls that was always called neger(nigger)bollar(balls), but ofc that aint allowed any more for some quite good resons, just plain old choclate balls now.
haha nice, we have something similar in germany, it's basically some cream with choclate over it so you can take it in the hand and it's called negerkuss ( niggerkiss )
im sorry but, neger != nigger. its more like negro. just saying.
racism is stupid from the very core of it. if i dont like a person its because they did something to deserve it, not because i dont like how they look.
i like the morgan freeman approach:
Usually I'm disappointed when celebrities who I like from their movies open their mouths, but with Morgan Freeman, it's the opposite. This guy is one of my favorites.
On June 02 2011 02:58 PeT[uK] wrote: I don't think its racist at all, but it is definitely referring to the color of her skin as her defining characteristic, and also how similar it is to a chocolate bar. Whens the last time you heard white people being referred to as a white chocolate bar in this context? I guess at the end of the day you have to realize that this candy bar and Naomi Campbell have nothing to do with each other. Yet the bar targeted her specifically because she is black. Can't you see whats wrong with that? There are a million other references that could have been made.
The ad targeted her in reference to "Diva", not the color of the chocolate bar.
The problem is that if they had decided to pick a white model's name they would have also used a white chocolate bar.
Pure speculation on your part. Irrelevant speculation. Always helps in ridiculous arguments.
Pictures of ads where women and chocolates are seen as the same.
When women are chocolate, either the ad is brown or the model is brown.
When women eat chocolate, they are white.
When the woman is described as fruits and nuts and not chocolate, she is white.
Yeah, pure speculation indeed.
WTF, dude, you said:
The problem is that if they had decided to pick a white model's name they would have also used a white chocolate bar.
You said "If ... they would have also ....". You speculated what they WOULD HAVE done. Not that they did, but what they WOULD HAVE done, based on your own speculation. That's SPECULATION. I don't know wtf you are pulling all those ads and trying to get some racial overtones. This is some crazy stuff.
I'm tempted to start a company, make chocolate covered pretzels, hire an ad agency to feature an African-American gymnast as my spokesmodel, and do it all in your honor.
I'm sorry evidence supports my speculation
If you want, I can feel really bad about being right.
Or, since this case will be thrown out... you can feel bad being on the wrong side of the law D:
I don't care about your "evidence". The court decision will determine the "racism" here, not some random anonymous internet poster.
Have you been reading my posts? The fact that I care about the court's decision and not just anecdotal based "common sense" is the whole reason I'm posting. I'd love to know what the court's opinions on this is.
On June 02 2011 04:19 shizna wrote: sorry but i was blown away with the suggestion that fried chicken is racist...
any random object can be racist if someone uses it in a racist comment, it doesn't make the object a racist object.
seriously... chocolate is racist? quick, we need to make all food products in the world 'neutral coloured' gray! happy now naomi?
Lol. well, fried chicken and watermelon kind of hold a special place, separate from just any ordinary food. They have developed a certain racial quality, through comedic reference to black people having a particular penchant for those particular foods.
You guys are misinterpreting everything. THIS AD IS NOT RACIST AT ALL!! moreover, Naomi Campbell is stupid for calling it racist. However, You cannot deny that they chose Naomi as the diva for the SOLE fact that her skin is comparable to that of the bar. It isn't racist but its something that will always annoy a black person. BTW she is fucking hot in that giant bunny pic.
On June 02 2011 04:14 Korinai wrote: Next thing you know, white people are going to be sued for not having an equal ratio of black and white socks.
I always wear black socks...
safe! \o/
This is so stupid. I don't understand how this is racist...If anything it's just making fun of her for being a diva. And even then it's not that bad. I guess they should have made sure they can use the ad before running it.
Type of advertisement reminds me of the BMW / Audi thing though.. Except they were a lot better sports about it.
BMW didn't flip the fuck out and sue the pants off Audi, they rolled with it.
On June 01 2011 20:20 Steveling wrote: Yet another case,where those classy advertisers dont have a clue bout real world slangs. I think she overeacted anyway.
Because when I think about a bar of chocolate, I immediately think "woahhhh racism!"
On June 02 2011 04:19 shizna wrote: sorry but i was blown away with the suggestion that fried chicken is racist...
any random object can be racist if someone uses it in a racist comment, it doesn't make the object a racist object.
seriously... chocolate is racist? quick, we need to make all food products in the world 'neutral coloured' gray! happy now naomi?
Its not that chocolate is racist. It's saying a black woman on top of the social ladder is only as impressive as a chocolate bar. That is the racist part.
For example, if someone said "your mother's sucked more cock than an american sorority" the first response should not be "That's great that you think my mother is young 20 year old " nor should it be "My mom does have a lot of Stamina, I can see your point" nor should it be "My *is* american! How did you know!"
The phrase is an insult to both mothers *and* sororities. It is also an insult to female sexuality and also supports the ideology of male sexuality as something that dominates the female.
BUT that doesn't mean it should never be said, nor does it mean that we should hang people for saying that phrase. So long as you are aware that it is not a "harmless joke" or a "lighthearted jab."
Maybe if Naomi was actually bullied enough to be in the demographic of "chocolate bars" she's talking about I'd care. But she's not, she's not even close. Negligent, sure, but racist? Nope, I'm no expert, but this case doesn't take an expert.
Cadbury wasn't trying to pull a racist fast one. Naomi is just setting her race/gender back a few years by being the stereotype everyone expects. I don't know what else she could've expected by stretching the race card that thin.
On June 01 2011 20:20 Steveling wrote: Yet another case,where those classy advertisers dont have a clue bout real world slangs. I think she overeacted anyway.
Because when I think about a bar of chocolate, I immediately think "woahhhh racism!"
I didn't think racism when I first heard the term paki, or gyp, or limey, or kraut, or polock.
Heck, 2 of those slurs are even food based just like the chocolate.
The reason why she feels the need to sue a company for these, so called, racial slurs is because she is insecure of herself and wants to take advantage of the system. It's pathetic to see such a lowly attempt to make her pocket book bigger. Not only should she feel ashamed of herself, all of these people who have actually been under the influence of racism should be disappointed in her. She is the type of person who is going to use everything the system gives her and manipulate it because she is a selfish, insecure bitch.
In my town, there is a chicken and waffles place that is only open from 10pm to 4am. Its run by ghetto black people and all you can order is fried chicken with waffles.
I dont even think the place has a name. We just call it "chicken and waffles" and it is delicious.
I think Naomi Cambell could use a little more chicken and waffles in her life. Seriously, she is too skinny.
There are no bad words, only bad thoughts behind them.
Cadbury's clearly didn't mean to offend, or to be racist, they were playing on the "diva" aspect since Naomi is one of the most well known U.K divas of the day. Not because of her skin colour.
She's digging her own grave here. I hope she doesn't succeed.
On June 02 2011 04:32 pyrohippy wrote: The reason why she feels the need to sue a company for these, so called, racial slurs is because she is insecure of herself and wants to take advantage of the system. It's pathetic to see such a lowly attempt to make her pocket book bigger. Not only should she feel ashamed of herself, all of these people who have actually been under the influence of racism should be disappointed in her. She is the type of person who is going to use everything the system gives her and manipulate it because she is a selfish, insecure bitch.
She speaks for all black people though by doing this according to her own words.
On June 02 2011 04:29 TsoBadGuy wrote: Maybe if Naomi was actually bullied enough to be in the demographic of "chocolate bars" she's talking about I'd care. But she's not, she's not even close. Negligent, sure, but racist? Nope, I'm no expert, but this case doesn't take an expert.
Cadbury wasn't trying to pull a racist fast one. Naomi is just setting her race/gender back a few years by being the stereotype everyone expects. I don't know what else she could've expected by stretching the race card that thin.
My biggest problem with the people of this thread is exactly this point. It's easy to say that her plight doesn't mean anything because she's so damn rich and pretty what does she have to complain about right? It ain't like she has feelings or nothin'.
Let me makes some things clear.
I think she's silly and stupid for choosing this ad of all the ads to get upset about. I think she's not as insulted as she claims to be and I also think that she knows jack squat about the state of the african american community for the same reason the Bill Gates doesn't know jack about the state of the low income midwest (american midwest) communities.
But! If it was someone more legit making the claim, would we care more? If would care more if it was someone more legit, then shouldn't we care now? The one thing folks like Naomi have that "legit" complainers don't have is the money to complain the way Naomi is complaining. It is in times like these that those legitimate downtrodden have a chance for change in their favor. Sure Naomi is weird for doing this--but don't think about her. Think about those people who can't sue because they don't have Naomi's money, Naomi's opportunity, Naomi's privilege.
On June 02 2011 04:19 shizna wrote: sorry but i was blown away with the suggestion that fried chicken is racist...
any random object can be racist if someone uses it in a racist comment, it doesn't make the object a racist object.
seriously... chocolate is racist? quick, we need to make all food products in the world 'neutral coloured' gray! happy now naomi?
Lol. well, fried chicken and watermelon kind of hold a special place, separate from just any ordinary food. They have developed a certain racial quality, through comedic reference to black people having a particular penchant for those particular foods.
what about the jokes that white people can't dance, jump, compete in athletics or measure up to a black man in genetalia size?
therefore the following is massively racist: nike release a pair of sneakers with the ad "move over downey jr, not even ironman is this fast!".
On June 02 2011 02:58 PeT[uK] wrote: I don't think its racist at all, but it is definitely referring to the color of her skin as her defining characteristic, and also how similar it is to a chocolate bar. Whens the last time you heard white people being referred to as a white chocolate bar in this context? I guess at the end of the day you have to realize that this candy bar and Naomi Campbell have nothing to do with each other. Yet the bar targeted her specifically because she is black. Can't you see whats wrong with that? There are a million other references that could have been made.
The ad targeted her in reference to "Diva", not the color of the chocolate bar.
The problem is that if they had decided to pick a white model's name they would have also used a white chocolate bar.
Pure speculation on your part. Irrelevant speculation. Always helps in ridiculous arguments.
Pictures of ads where women and chocolates are seen as the same.
When women are chocolate, either the ad is brown or the model is brown.
When women eat chocolate, they are white.
When the woman is described as fruits and nuts and not chocolate, she is white.
Yeah, pure speculation indeed.
WTF, dude, you said:
The problem is that if they had decided to pick a white model's name they would have also used a white chocolate bar.
You said "If ... they would have also ....". You speculated what they WOULD HAVE done. Not that they did, but what they WOULD HAVE done, based on your own speculation. That's SPECULATION. I don't know wtf you are pulling all those ads and trying to get some racial overtones. This is some crazy stuff.
I'm tempted to start a company, make chocolate covered pretzels, hire an ad agency to feature an African-American gymnast as my spokesmodel, and do it all in your honor.
I'm sorry evidence supports my speculation
If you want, I can feel really bad about being right.
Or, since this case will be thrown out... you can feel bad being on the wrong side of the law D:
I don't care about your "evidence". The court decision will determine the "racism" here, not some random anonymous internet poster.
Have you been reading my posts? The fact that I care about the court's decision and not just anecdotal based "common sense" is the whole reason I'm posting. I'd love to know what the court's opinions on this is.
Well this is interesting. You appear to be drawing attention to the point that cadbury compares black women to chocolate and has white women eat chocolate. Is this coincidence or hate crime? In my opinion, it's probably just that the adds are targeting different people and coincidence. two of the adds you showed look really old, and I just don't think there is much evidence that they targeted her because of her race at all. Who is the add targeted at? I won't say colored people, but I can certainly say white's don't care that much who the diva in town is.
On June 02 2011 04:19 shizna wrote: sorry but i was blown away with the suggestion that fried chicken is racist...
any random object can be racist if someone uses it in a racist comment, it doesn't make the object a racist object.
seriously... chocolate is racist? quick, we need to make all food products in the world 'neutral coloured' gray! happy now naomi?
Lol. well, fried chicken and watermelon kind of hold a special place, separate from just any ordinary food. They have developed a certain racial quality, through comedic reference to black people having a particular penchant for those particular foods.
what about the jokes that white people can't dance, jump, compete in athletics or measure up to a black man in genetalia size?
does that mean that any reference to dancing, jumping, atletics or nob size is now offensive and racist?
Naomi near naked standing atop a chocolate bunny is not racist. It's sexist, objectifying and crude. But it's not racist because it's obviously a black model selling an item.
The cadbury ad was racist because of how it used the chocolate, not that chocolate exists.
Talking about "dance, jump, compete in athletics or measure up to a black man in genetalia size" is not inherently racist unless you juxtapose the images together.
If you told someone they were bad at dancing, that would not be racist. If you told someone they danced like a white guy, that would be racist. If you told someone they had a big dick, that would not be racist. If you told someone they had a "nigger's dick" that would be racist.
Its the conflation of stereotype and race into a singular image that is racist--not the actual "faults."
it's fascinating that a forum that's probably 99.9% white and asian likes to take every opportunity where someone is offended by a believably offensive and racially coded thing and read it as the over-PC'ing of culture or rampant stupidity or oversensitivity. please spend 3 minutes thinking outside yourself before you post any mindless detritus about how if this was a white chocolate bar it wouldn't be racist
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