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Alexl
Profile Joined January 2011
288 Posts
June 01 2011 18:32 GMT
#221
seriously, I really hate racism, but i get the impression some black people call you racist if you say they are black -_-
PeT[uK]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States412 Posts
June 01 2011 18:34 GMT
#222
On June 02 2011 03:26 VIB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 03:24 RoosterSamurai wrote:
The commercial isn't insinuating that one race is better than another, therefore it is not racist.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism
I agree with that. Even if they're comparing her to chocolate. Chocolate are delicious. I would like to be compared to chocolate

It's not about the taste of chocolate its about the color, and its not racist at all, the problem has always been that they chose her name, her character, for the sole reason that her skin was comparable to the chocolate. They could have chosen so many other "divas" out there but they chose her. It is OBVIOUSLY intentional.
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GunSec
Profile Joined February 2010
1095 Posts
June 01 2011 18:35 GMT
#223
yeah the black people seem really sensitive of things like this but when other races are offended, theeeen it doesn't matter to them lol
DeepElemBlues
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States5079 Posts
June 01 2011 18:36 GMT
#224
isn't naomi one of those bitches who can't keep their hands off the help, but not in a good and sexy way?
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lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
June 01 2011 18:39 GMT
#225
On June 02 2011 03:26 VIB wrote:
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On June 02 2011 03:24 RoosterSamurai wrote:
The commercial isn't insinuating that one race is better than another, therefore it is not racist.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/racism
I agree with that. Even if they're comparing her to chocolate. Chocolate are delicious. I would like to be compared to chocolate


African Americans have long slongs
Chinese Students study harder
"Latin" Americans (South Americans) are good at sex
etc....

All are compliments, all are racist.

The reason its a problem is because of the possible repercussions it would have in the minority's own community if it were to be accepted as okay. If its okay to think of black women as chocolates (legally so if she loses) then what does that mean to the african community as a whole (legally speaking)?

If its okay to call them an innocent food thing, what other stuff is it okay to call them so long as it is "innocent." Lines always have to be drawn if we are to know where we stand.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
contraSol
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States185 Posts
June 01 2011 18:40 GMT
#226
I think reading posts like this @TL has completely destroyed my faith in humanity.
TheJizWiz
Profile Joined June 2010
8 Posts
June 01 2011 18:40 GMT
#227
I still dont get how this add is comparing her to a chocolaet bar. Can someone please explain it to me?
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
June 01 2011 18:42 GMT
#228
On June 02 2011 03:32 Derez wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 03:19 lorkac wrote:
On June 02 2011 03:08 Kaitlin wrote:
On June 02 2011 03:06 lorkac wrote:
On June 02 2011 03:04 Kaitlin wrote:
On June 02 2011 02:58 PeT[uK] wrote:
I don't think its racist at all, but it is definitely referring to the color of her skin as her defining characteristic, and also how similar it is to a chocolate bar. Whens the last time you heard white people being referred to as a white chocolate bar in this context? I guess at the end of the day you have to realize that this candy bar and Naomi Campbell have nothing to do with each other. Yet the bar targeted her specifically because she is black. Can't you see whats wrong with that?
There are a million other references that could have been made.


The ad targeted her in reference to "Diva", not the color of the chocolate bar.


The problem is that if they had decided to pick a white model's name they would have also used a white chocolate bar.


Pure speculation on your part. Irrelevant speculation. Always helps in ridiculous arguments.


Pictures of ads where women and chocolates are seen as the same.

http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_941/9418405/file/cadbury-melts-chocolate-me-me-me-small-60513.jpg

http://media22.onsugar.com/files/2011/05/22/2/166/1668379/248135f068e94f15_cadburyad_610640a.preview/i/Naomi-Campbell-Considering-Legal-Action-After-Called-Chocolate-Cadbury-Ad-Campaign.jpg

Pictures of ads where women eat chocolate

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/3551292367_7185324fbc.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1049/1297720856_233f3ef2d5.jpg

Picture of an ad where a women is seen as the same as the fruits and nuts of a chocolate bar

http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_546/5466555/file/chocolate-pieces-small-94200.jpg


When women are chocolate, either the ad is brown or the model is brown.

When women eat chocolate, they are white.

When the woman is described as fruits and nuts and not chocolate, she is white.

Yeah, pure speculation indeed.


What now?

I see dark chocolate in all 5 pictures you linked, 3 times with a white woman, once with a reference to a black woman and once without any woman at all.

Kind of disproving your own theory there.


Its cute that you think how dark the chocolate is matters more that how the image is used
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
lazyfeet
Profile Joined April 2010
United States468 Posts
June 01 2011 18:45 GMT
#229
Isn't she half asian?
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scatmango2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States408 Posts
June 01 2011 18:46 GMT
#230
For fuck sake... This is not racist at all. Anyone who construes this as racist seriously lacks a brain.
rea1ity
Profile Joined September 2010
United Kingdom385 Posts
June 01 2011 18:46 GMT
#231
On June 02 2011 03:42 lorkac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 03:32 Derez wrote:
On June 02 2011 03:19 lorkac wrote:
On June 02 2011 03:08 Kaitlin wrote:
On June 02 2011 03:06 lorkac wrote:
On June 02 2011 03:04 Kaitlin wrote:
On June 02 2011 02:58 PeT[uK] wrote:
I don't think its racist at all, but it is definitely referring to the color of her skin as her defining characteristic, and also how similar it is to a chocolate bar. Whens the last time you heard white people being referred to as a white chocolate bar in this context? I guess at the end of the day you have to realize that this candy bar and Naomi Campbell have nothing to do with each other. Yet the bar targeted her specifically because she is black. Can't you see whats wrong with that?
There are a million other references that could have been made.


The ad targeted her in reference to "Diva", not the color of the chocolate bar.


The problem is that if they had decided to pick a white model's name they would have also used a white chocolate bar.


Pure speculation on your part. Irrelevant speculation. Always helps in ridiculous arguments.


Pictures of ads where women and chocolates are seen as the same.

http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_941/9418405/file/cadbury-melts-chocolate-me-me-me-small-60513.jpg

http://media22.onsugar.com/files/2011/05/22/2/166/1668379/248135f068e94f15_cadburyad_610640a.preview/i/Naomi-Campbell-Considering-Legal-Action-After-Called-Chocolate-Cadbury-Ad-Campaign.jpg

Pictures of ads where women eat chocolate

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/3551292367_7185324fbc.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1049/1297720856_233f3ef2d5.jpg

Picture of an ad where a women is seen as the same as the fruits and nuts of a chocolate bar

http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_546/5466555/file/chocolate-pieces-small-94200.jpg


When women are chocolate, either the ad is brown or the model is brown.

When women eat chocolate, they are white.

When the woman is described as fruits and nuts and not chocolate, she is white.

Yeah, pure speculation indeed.


What now?

I see dark chocolate in all 5 pictures you linked, 3 times with a white woman, once with a reference to a black woman and once without any woman at all.

Kind of disproving your own theory there.


Its cute that you think how dark the chocolate is matters more that how the image is used


You sound really stupid. It's time to shut the fuck up.

Bottom line is that it's completely ridiculous whatever happens...


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Profile Joined February 2004
Netherlands1821 Posts
June 01 2011 18:47 GMT
#232
Black people are black. There's plenty of songs where white people are linked to white chocolate and black people are linked to dark chocolate. It's just the skin-colour. All the extra stigma gets added after, and has everything to do with intention and perception. In this case the intention seems completely harmeless, and the reaction seems rediculous. People *take* offence way to often to things that they could easily let slide.
I'm a man of my word, and that word is "unreliable".
Risen
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States7927 Posts
June 01 2011 18:47 GMT
#233
On June 02 2011 03:42 lorkac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 03:32 Derez wrote:
On June 02 2011 03:19 lorkac wrote:
On June 02 2011 03:08 Kaitlin wrote:
On June 02 2011 03:06 lorkac wrote:
On June 02 2011 03:04 Kaitlin wrote:
On June 02 2011 02:58 PeT[uK] wrote:
I don't think its racist at all, but it is definitely referring to the color of her skin as her defining characteristic, and also how similar it is to a chocolate bar. Whens the last time you heard white people being referred to as a white chocolate bar in this context? I guess at the end of the day you have to realize that this candy bar and Naomi Campbell have nothing to do with each other. Yet the bar targeted her specifically because she is black. Can't you see whats wrong with that?
There are a million other references that could have been made.


The ad targeted her in reference to "Diva", not the color of the chocolate bar.


The problem is that if they had decided to pick a white model's name they would have also used a white chocolate bar.


Pure speculation on your part. Irrelevant speculation. Always helps in ridiculous arguments.


Pictures of ads where women and chocolates are seen as the same.

http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_941/9418405/file/cadbury-melts-chocolate-me-me-me-small-60513.jpg

http://media22.onsugar.com/files/2011/05/22/2/166/1668379/248135f068e94f15_cadburyad_610640a.preview/i/Naomi-Campbell-Considering-Legal-Action-After-Called-Chocolate-Cadbury-Ad-Campaign.jpg

Pictures of ads where women eat chocolate

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/3551292367_7185324fbc.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1049/1297720856_233f3ef2d5.jpg

Picture of an ad where a women is seen as the same as the fruits and nuts of a chocolate bar

http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_546/5466555/file/chocolate-pieces-small-94200.jpg


When women are chocolate, either the ad is brown or the model is brown.

When women eat chocolate, they are white.

When the woman is described as fruits and nuts and not chocolate, she is white.

Yeah, pure speculation indeed.


What now?

I see dark chocolate in all 5 pictures you linked, 3 times with a white woman, once with a reference to a black woman and once without any woman at all.

Kind of disproving your own theory there.


Its cute that you think how dark the chocolate is matters more that how the image is used


It's cute how you must have failed reading comprehension. He said nothing about the differing colors of the chocolate. He DID say something about how all the ads have dark chocolate and three of them have white women.
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hmunkey
Profile Joined August 2010
United Kingdom1973 Posts
June 01 2011 18:48 GMT
#234
Yes, Ms. Campbell is being stupid. However, this entire story and the posts here are designed to elicit a response. I've seen this on Reddit and now unfortunately it's spreading here.

And just by reading some of these comments, it's fairly disgusting.
MapleFractal
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada307 Posts
June 01 2011 18:49 GMT
#235
On June 02 2011 03:40 TheJizWiz wrote:
I still dont get how this add is comparing her to a chocolaet bar. Can someone please explain it to me?

It's not, just an over sensitive person who hasn't been in the news recently so it was time she stirred up the pot about something completely stupid. Not that she will win in a million years anyways so w.e this thread is a prime example of what is wrong with NA society at the moment. People have paper thin skin and get offended at everything, and with the way courts work/ all the people terrified to open their mouths lest a coloured person hears then say "chocolate bar" this situation isn't even surprising. It's just sad.
its called a Tuque damnit!
Derez
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Netherlands6068 Posts
June 01 2011 18:52 GMT
#236
On June 02 2011 03:42 lorkac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 03:32 Derez wrote:
On June 02 2011 03:19 lorkac wrote:
On June 02 2011 03:08 Kaitlin wrote:
On June 02 2011 03:06 lorkac wrote:
On June 02 2011 03:04 Kaitlin wrote:
On June 02 2011 02:58 PeT[uK] wrote:
I don't think its racist at all, but it is definitely referring to the color of her skin as her defining characteristic, and also how similar it is to a chocolate bar. Whens the last time you heard white people being referred to as a white chocolate bar in this context? I guess at the end of the day you have to realize that this candy bar and Naomi Campbell have nothing to do with each other. Yet the bar targeted her specifically because she is black. Can't you see whats wrong with that?
There are a million other references that could have been made.


The ad targeted her in reference to "Diva", not the color of the chocolate bar.


The problem is that if they had decided to pick a white model's name they would have also used a white chocolate bar.


Pure speculation on your part. Irrelevant speculation. Always helps in ridiculous arguments.


Pictures of ads where women and chocolates are seen as the same.

http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_941/9418405/file/cadbury-melts-chocolate-me-me-me-small-60513.jpg

http://media22.onsugar.com/files/2011/05/22/2/166/1668379/248135f068e94f15_cadburyad_610640a.preview/i/Naomi-Campbell-Considering-Legal-Action-After-Called-Chocolate-Cadbury-Ad-Campaign.jpg

Pictures of ads where women eat chocolate

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3084/3551292367_7185324fbc.jpg

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1049/1297720856_233f3ef2d5.jpg

Picture of an ad where a women is seen as the same as the fruits and nuts of a chocolate bar

http://files.coloribus.com/files/adsarchive/part_546/5466555/file/chocolate-pieces-small-94200.jpg


When women are chocolate, either the ad is brown or the model is brown.

When women eat chocolate, they are white.

When the woman is described as fruits and nuts and not chocolate, she is white.

Yeah, pure speculation indeed.


What now?

I see dark chocolate in all 5 pictures you linked, 3 times with a white woman, once with a reference to a black woman and once without any woman at all.

Kind of disproving your own theory there.


Its cute that you think how dark the chocolate is matters more that how the image is used


No, it's more about how it's possible to construe pretty much everything in this world as racism if you try hard enough.

Also, it's a ridiculous lawsuit concerning she had no problem with pictures like this:

[image loading]
oDieN[Siege]
Profile Joined November 2009
United States2905 Posts
June 01 2011 18:53 GMT
#237
On June 01 2011 20:38 Deekin[ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 20:37 Supamang wrote:
Uhhh, imma let you in on something Naomi Campbell...theres way worse commercials than that jpeg youre crying over:



and this is one of the more mild ones


that video is so lovely, Guile Theme truly goes with anything.

Indeed it does.


On a more serious note, this is a bit absurd.
meh @ Naomi Campbell.
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scatmango2
Profile Joined November 2010
United States408 Posts
June 01 2011 18:54 GMT
#238
On June 02 2011 03:49 MapleFractal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 02 2011 03:40 TheJizWiz wrote:
I still dont get how this add is comparing her to a chocolaet bar. Can someone please explain it to me?

It's not, just an over sensitive person who hasn't been in the news recently so it was time she stirred up the pot about something completely stupid. Not that she will win in a million years anyways so w.e this thread is a prime example of what is wrong with NA society at the moment. People have paper thin skin and get offended at everything, and with the way courts work/ all the people terrified to open their mouths lest a coloured person hears then say "chocolate bar" this situation isn't even surprising. It's just sad.



So true. I can't even imagine what goes on in people's minds when they think the opposite of what you just typed. Their minds have been warped into a political correct slushy and honestly its beyond pathetic.
lorkac
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States2297 Posts
June 01 2011 18:56 GMT
#239
On June 02 2011 03:40 TheJizWiz wrote:
I still dont get how this add is comparing her to a chocolaet bar. Can someone please explain it to me?


The ad describes the chocolate bar being treated like a Diva.

Hence it is covered in ornate things.

The ad also tells "Naomi" to "move over" so she can be replaced by said chocolate bar.

The chocolate bar is a Diva based on how it is gowned. It is then implied in the ad that Naomi and the chocolate bar are interchangeable in the image.

Hence why "Move over Naomi a new Diva is in town" has a message of interchangeability between woman and chocolate. This has deep seeded roots not in racism, but sexism--specifically the objectification of women as sex objects. This trend of female objectification has a new relationship with chocolate in that chocolate ads are now showcasing themselves as a way to "pleasure" women. If you watch Dove chocolate commercials you will see this trend in action of the unifying of the female and chocolate as a sex object.

This ad attempts to take advantage of that current trend by having a known "sex/sexy object" be replaced by the new "sex object" the cadbury chocolate. This creates the image of Female and Chocolate as mirrored objects and hence why the ad equates the human being Naomi Campbell to a mere bar of chocolate.
By the truth we are undone. Life is a dream. Tis waking that kills us. He who robs us of our dreams robs us of our life --Orlando: A Biography
Azzur
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia6260 Posts
June 01 2011 18:58 GMT
#240
Political correctness gone too far!
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