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On November 29 2012 18:37 Arighttomorals wrote:
Yes, the beauty of Pre-nups or states or countries where they can't take you for everything. You know in California, a woman can co-habit with a man for seven years, and once that minimum is reached, it doesn't matter if theyre married or not, she can legally demand alimony.
If a woman co-habits with a man for seven years then yes I would say she is entitled to part of the estate she lived in and contributed to for nearly a decade, and I would say the same for a man as well because he helped too!
On November 29 2012 18:31 Arighttomorals wrote:
She was ultimately the one to profit, however. You say it was reversed occasionally, but it was a long custody battle, meaning she didn't want the process to stop.
My mother never contested custody of my sister. What she did contest was paying child support for her - a situation usually done by the father if you believe all the statistics. But thank you for assuming you know more about my family life than me.
On November 29 2012 18:32 farvacola wrote:
LOL no not even close. In fact, my father at one point was making over 300k a year and yet had somehow gotten my mom forced to pay him child support. Don't presume to tell me the course of my own life in order to prove some inane point.
This. My father earned more than my mother too. So now you have two examples where what 'the news' would have you believe is false. 
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On November 29 2012 18:39 farvacola wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 18:37 Arighttomorals wrote:On November 29 2012 18:34 DameHixxi wrote:When my parents divorced my dad got the house, kids and money. My mother was the one who left. She used her own personal savings to get her own place, buy her own furniture and live her own life. So no, not in every case. This is why generalisations based on gender are bad. Yes, the beauty of Pre-nups or states or countries where they can't take you for everything. You know in California, a woman can co-habit with a man for seven years, and once that minimum is reached, it doesn't matter if theyre married or not, she can legally demand alimony. On November 29 2012 18:32 farvacola wrote:On November 29 2012 18:31 Arighttomorals wrote:On November 29 2012 18:29 DameHixxi wrote:Both genders are capable of being just as horrible as each other. Both are capable of cheating. Both are capable of leaving kids. Both are capable of taking the other through hell and back in a court of law. One or two examples of either being a jerk in a situation does not mean you have to tar the entire gender with the same brush so please stop posting that all women are evil and are just out to take men for all they are worth. There are plenty of instances of men doing this to women, but I do not assume all guys are going to beat me up and make me financially dependant on them. Also please do not link to the Daily Mail as a reputable news source - it is entirely the opposite. It is a tabloid, sensasionalist gossip. But only ONE side can profit from divorce. This is absolutely not true. My father and mother actually reversed who paid child support at times pending court decision, and this sort of thing happens all the time during long custody battles. She was ultimately the one to profit, however. You say it was reversed occasionally, but it was a long custody battle, meaning she didn't want the process to stop. LOL no not even close. In fact, my father at one point was making over 300k a year and yet had somehow gotten my mom forced to pay him child support. Don't presume to tell me the course of my own life in order to prove some inane point.
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On November 29 2012 18:42 DameHixxi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 18:37 Arighttomorals wrote:
Yes, the beauty of Pre-nups or states or countries where they can't take you for everything. You know in California, a woman can co-habit with a man for seven years, and once that minimum is reached, it doesn't matter if theyre married or not, she can legally demand alimony. If a woman co-habits with a man for seven years then yes I would say she is entitled to part of the estate she lived in and contributed to for nearly a decade, and I would say the same for a man as well because he helped too! Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 18:31 Arighttomorals wrote:
She was ultimately the one to profit, however. You say it was reversed occasionally, but it was a long custody battle, meaning she didn't want the process to stop. My mother never contested custody of my sister. What she did contest was paying child support for her - a situation usually done by the father if you believe all the statistics. But thank you for assuming you know more about my family life than me. Show nested quote +On November 29 2012 18:32 farvacola wrote:
LOL no not even close. In fact, my father at one point was making over 300k a year and yet had somehow gotten my mom forced to pay him child support. Don't presume to tell me the course of my own life in order to prove some inane point. This. My father earned more than my mother too. So now you have two examples where what 'the news' would have you believe is false.
Oh? even if she sat around making no money and watching soaps all day?
Also, United Kingdom. Not even the same as the U.S. But thanks for assuming your laws and culture is what everyone else uses.
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Yes. Even if she sat around making no money and watching soaps all day because you cannot say this is the sum of the situation. Perhaps she has crippling anxiety health issues and cannot leave the house? Perhaps her partner is happy to help her and perhaps they are wealthy enough to hire a housekeeper so she can have this life. If I was earning so much money that my partner could stay at home and watch soaps all day he is more than welcome to! Because I love him and I want him to have the best life.
I am not assuming the laws of my country are the same everywhere, what I am saying is that no matter where we are we shouldn't say 'all women are evil whores who are out to steal mens money and pop out babies for this sole purpose' just like we shouldn't say things like 'men are players who are just out to use women for fun sexy times' or a million other stereotypes the media would have us feed into.
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On November 29 2012 18:54 DameHixxi wrote:
Yes. Even if she sat around making no money and watching soaps all day because you cannot say this is the sum of the situation. Perhaps she has crippling anxiety health issues and cannot leave the house? Perhaps her partner is happy to help her and perhaps they are wealthy enough to hire a housekeeper so she can have this life. If I was earning so much money that my partner could stay at home and watch soaps all day he is more than welcome to! Because I love him and I want him to have the best life.
I am not assuming the laws of my country are the same everywhere, what I am saying is that no matter where we are we shouldn't say 'all women are evil whores who are out to steal mens money and pop out babies for this sole purpose' just like we shouldn't say things like 'men are players who are just out to use women for fun sexy times' or a million other stereotypes the media would have us feed into.
I love how you're always in defense of the woman. Keep adding the hypoagency. Would you say the same for a man? People would scorn a male acting like that. Even Nietzsche said the same thing.
And too bad for us, The media tailors itself to the largest population, which is females. They already control many of the markets with their shopping habits by spending 3 times the average male annually. google it.
Let's get back on topic, if you can manage that. This would create a legal vulnerability, and it won't make any difference in the lives of those people who are all grown up without their biological parents. Case closed.
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I am not entirely sure that you are reading my posts properly because you say 'would you say the same for a man?' when ... I have said this exact thing nearly every post I have made. People scorn both men and women for acting certain ways when the whole point of what I have been saying is 'we cannot judge someone by stereotypes set by gender'.
I think you should look up some statistics on sexism. There is a large men's rights movement as well as a female right's movement and both have issues that require solving but neither one is more 'right' or 'wrong' than the other. Women enjoy shopping, so what? Men comprise the majority of the gaming community, but does that mean we should put up with sexy, objectifying photos of ladies display gaming keyboards on their butts? Swings and roundabouts. It goes both ways.
Women are not out to take over with their evil shopping sprees and love of fluffy soap operas. Men are not rabid animals who cannot control themselves around a half naked woman.
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Still waiting for a counterargument of substance. Or to get back OT. Either way.
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On May 21 2011 03:08 Mikilatov wrote:
What I've never understood is why people seem to care who their biological parents are?
If I found out my father wasn't my real father, I'd say "No, he's my real father, because he raised me and took care of me and still cares for me to this day." Who the hell cares where the sperm came from. There's a difference between a sperm donor and a DAD.
I guess maybe I'd have to be put in that position to understand, but honestly, I don't think I'd give two shits if I didn't know my 'biological' father, if he was just a random sperm donor.
Family history of diseases is always good to know.
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When you don't take the standard procedure billions of women before you have taken in finding a male with halfway decent genetics to impregnate you with of course you are going to take risks.
I agree that sperm donors shouldn't have anonymity at least in regard to hereditary diseases, but damn women shouldn't be so lazy when it comes to finding suitable genetics, put some effort in yo.
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I believe in Australia there is a massive shortage of donors and they import sperm from overseas.
Once you get rid of buyer anonimity then donor numbers fall off a cliff, similarly here there is no financial reward for donating sperm so really there is no reason to donate sperm.Several stories of men who have donated sperm for gay female couples to have kids, the women split up and the carer of the child takes the donor to court to make him pay child support.It is no wonder men are scared off, the system is very much against them.
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i think it would be nice if anonymity was waived JUST for the child. So if the child grew up and wanted to meet his/her father, he/she could have a phone number to call and say "hi i'm your biological kid and would like to meet you just for my own curiosity, would you be interested?" whereby the dad can then say "thanks but no thanks have a nice life kiddo" and have that be the end of it, or maybe they have coffee and find out they share weird traits and have a good ol time. As for the mum, i dont see why she needs this information.
i wouldn't go so far as to say that there is a right for every child to meet their bio parents, but i just think its something nice the corporation can do for the kids, since they have that information anyways. And the kid discovers his/her bio dad is a huge dick, then its like "thank GOD i wasn't parented by that meatbag, i love you so much more mum/dad."
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On November 29 2012 19:05 DameHixxi wrote:
Women are not out to take over with their evil shopping sprees and love of fluffy soap operas. Men are not rabid animals who cannot control themselves around a half naked woman.
I like shopping, fluffy soap operas and world domination and I'm a guy :O
On November 29 2012 20:01 zbedlam wrote:
When you don't take the standard procedure billions of women before you have taken in finding a male with halfway decent genetics to impregnate you with of course you are going to take risks.
I agree that sperm donors shouldn't have anonymity at least in regard to hereditary diseases, but damn women shouldn't be so lazy when it comes to finding suitable genetics, put some effort in yo.
Yeah, because if you have a male partner who suffers from infertility for whatever reason or you are a women in a homosexual relationship the problem is clearly tackled by "trying harder".
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On November 29 2012 22:32 DisneylandSC wrote:
I like shopping, fluffy soap operas and world domination and I'm a guy :O
I like guns, video games and dumb action movies and I'm a girl. *High five*.
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Isn't sperm donation some kind of transaction ? Do the kids have a right about something else from a donor aside knowing who he is? It isn't even close to adoption, i don't know how a judge can consider the comparison between both any relevant. The guy who donated IS NOT his father.
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Moral of the story, don't donate your sperm.
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On November 29 2012 23:55 gold_ wrote:
Moral of the story, don't donate your sperm.
No, do not donate if you want to do it anonymously.
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If you guys read the article, you will find out adopted people aren't eligible to ask for their biological parent as well, so why should she be any different.
In fact from reading around, it appeared that she is the odd one, while the majority of donated born people does not think this is an issue, and happy with how it is, and wanting to honour their anonymity. A lot of people do not know their parents is, their medical history, it's just way of life.
I'm glad her mother's fertility speicalist destoryed the record.
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I don't really know if i would want to donate my sperm to produce a child for some random couple i don't know. Maybe if i get to know them etc but that might also be odd for me since i will deep within always know that i'm the real father of their child. And what if i want to know my son and the couple perhaps doesn't want that? Or the child wants his/her's real father in the future? It complicates a lot and there is 100 situations which makes it hard.
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The end of this whole sorry saga, at last.
The Supreme Court of Canada refused to hear the final appeal of Olivia Pratten today, giving no reason (the Canadian supreme court never does). The overturning of the decision stands, and sperm donors will remain anonymous.
Carry on.
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