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ZaplinG
Profile Blog Joined February 2005
United States3818 Posts
May 21 2011 00:40 GMT
#81
On May 21 2011 07:19 AcrossFiveJulys wrote:
This might mean less sperm bank buildings will be erected in the future.


You raise an interesting point.
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KaiserReinhard
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States554 Posts
May 21 2011 00:52 GMT
#82
Not to be a dick or anything, but shouldn't anonymity be a donor's right?
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Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
May 21 2011 00:57 GMT
#83
On May 21 2011 03:08 Mikilatov wrote:
What I've never understood is why people seem to care who their biological parents are?

If I found out my father wasn't my real father, I'd say "No, he's my real father, because he raised me and took care of me and still cares for me to this day." Who the hell cares where the sperm came from. There's a difference between a sperm donor and a DAD.

I guess maybe I'd have to be put in that position to understand, but honestly, I don't think I'd give two shits if I didn't know my 'biological' father, if he was just a random sperm donor.


lol.....words cannot describe how ignorant this makes you sound.

Kojak21
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada1104 Posts
May 21 2011 00:59 GMT
#84
IF i was ever gunna do this, i wouldnt now
¯\_(☺)_/¯
Thojorin
Profile Joined May 2008
Germany162 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 01:10:47
May 21 2011 01:10 GMT
#85
On May 21 2011 09:57 Golgotha wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 03:08 Mikilatov wrote:
What I've never understood is why people seem to care who their biological parents are?

If I found out my father wasn't my real father, I'd say "No, he's my real father, because he raised me and took care of me and still cares for me to this day." Who the hell cares where the sperm came from. There's a difference between a sperm donor and a DAD.

I guess maybe I'd have to be put in that position to understand, but honestly, I don't think I'd give two shits if I didn't know my 'biological' father, if he was just a random sperm donor.


lol.....words cannot describe how ignorant this makes you sound.


If you think so, could you please share your apparently non-ignorant point of view to enlighten the rest of us? I mean, to make this more than just a snide comment?
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Krikkitone
Profile Joined April 2009
United States1451 Posts
May 21 2011 01:14 GMT
#86
Well a few good reasons

1. Child knowing for medical reasons
2. making sure as a female sure you don't hook up with your biological dad. (still possible to hook up with your biological half-brother/sister though)
Maliris
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Northern Ireland2557 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 01:23:38
May 21 2011 01:20 GMT
#87
This is pretty bullshit tbh. I dunno about the US, but in the UK there is a shortage of donors (since it is illegal to receive a gratuity apart from travel expenses... so the hassle isn't worth it).

its arguably a human rights infringement to not protect the biological father's identity. its not like most people just donate once and thats it, what if you donate like 10 times and end up having to have awkward, pointless meetings at a café on 10 seperate occasions

I also don't see why people give a shit about their lineage. Unless you are a royal or something, you shouldn't care at all...
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Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
May 21 2011 03:57 GMT
#88
On May 21 2011 10:10 Thojorin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 09:57 Golgotha wrote:
On May 21 2011 03:08 Mikilatov wrote:
What I've never understood is why people seem to care who their biological parents are?

If I found out my father wasn't my real father, I'd say "No, he's my real father, because he raised me and took care of me and still cares for me to this day." Who the hell cares where the sperm came from. There's a difference between a sperm donor and a DAD.

I guess maybe I'd have to be put in that position to understand, but honestly, I don't think I'd give two shits if I didn't know my 'biological' father, if he was just a random sperm donor.


lol.....words cannot describe how ignorant this makes you sound.


If you think so, could you please share your apparently non-ignorant point of view to enlighten the rest of us? I mean, to make this more than just a snide comment?


Yeah I don't get it. It was simply expressed how the subject would be viewed personally, how can that possibly be ignorant?
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Musou
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
1375 Posts
May 21 2011 04:02 GMT
#89
On May 21 2011 10:20 Maliris wrote:
This is pretty bullshit tbh. I dunno about the US, but in the UK there is a shortage of donors (since it is illegal to receive a gratuity apart from travel expenses... so the hassle isn't worth it).

its arguably a human rights infringement to not protect the biological father's identity. its not like most people just donate once and thats it, what if you donate like 10 times and end up having to have awkward, pointless meetings at a café on 10 seperate occasions

I also don't see why people give a shit about their lineage. Unless you are a royal or something, you shouldn't care at all...

Possibly because incest is illegal and results in a higher rate of birth defects than a normal child. It's fine if the children of IVF never have any kids of their own, but it seems like a pain to me to have to get a DNA test every time you want to get into a relationship just because you might be committing incest without even knowing it. There have been court cases of couples separated because they were found to be related but didn't know it because of IVF/adoption and they were never told about it. I'm sure someone is going to make a comment about how love transcends all, but realistically there are things that are illegal and it's just better not to ruin someone's life because of it.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
May 21 2011 04:12 GMT
#90
Yikes if the USA decided to deny anonymity to sperm donors then I'd completely rule myself out as a donor. Good thing sperm isn't on short supply like blood and bone marrow are (I assume).
Stroggoz
Profile Joined March 2011
New Zealand79 Posts
May 21 2011 04:41 GMT
#91
On May 21 2011 03:08 Mikilatov wrote:
What I've never understood is why people seem to care who their biological parents are?

If I found out my father wasn't my real father, I'd say "No, he's my real father, because he raised me and took care of me and still cares for me to this day." Who the hell cares where the sperm came from. There's a difference between a sperm donor and a DAD.

I guess maybe I'd have to be put in that position to understand, but honestly, I don't think I'd give two shits if I didn't know my 'biological' father, if he was just a random sperm donor.


what if the doner is a nigger.

User was temp banned for this post.
LeSioN
Profile Joined November 2010
United States325 Posts
May 21 2011 04:52 GMT
#92
On May 21 2011 13:41 Stroggoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 03:08 Mikilatov wrote:
What I've never understood is why people seem to care who their biological parents are?

If I found out my father wasn't my real father, I'd say "No, he's my real father, because he raised me and took care of me and still cares for me to this day." Who the hell cares where the sperm came from. There's a difference between a sperm donor and a DAD.

I guess maybe I'd have to be put in that position to understand, but honestly, I don't think I'd give two shits if I didn't know my 'biological' father, if he was just a random sperm donor.


what if the doner is a nigger.


really? what if.
Someone needs to tell the truth, but it shouldn't be my job.
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 04:56:07
May 21 2011 04:52 GMT
#93
-_- Really Stroggoz?
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vetinari
Profile Joined August 2010
Australia602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-21 05:01:04
May 21 2011 04:58 GMT
#94
In britain a sperm donor was forced to pay child support payments, as the biological father...

Probably the real reason why britain has a shortage of donors.
nemo14
Profile Joined January 2011
United States425 Posts
May 21 2011 04:59 GMT
#95
On May 21 2011 13:41 Stroggoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 03:08 Mikilatov wrote:
What I've never understood is why people seem to care who their biological parents are?

If I found out my father wasn't my real father, I'd say "No, he's my real father, because he raised me and took care of me and still cares for me to this day." Who the hell cares where the sperm came from. There's a difference between a sperm donor and a DAD.

I guess maybe I'd have to be put in that position to understand, but honestly, I don't think I'd give two shits if I didn't know my 'biological' father, if he was just a random sperm donor.


what if the doner is a nigger.


I think that the more important question to ask would be "what if the donor was Stroggoz?"
SlayerS_BunkiE
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada1717 Posts
May 21 2011 06:55 GMT
#96
this is weird... and i also thought that it's the donor's right to have anonymity. and too bad for the father, may be some guys just want to earn extra income for donating sperm but bam! after few years, a child would want to meet him... on second thought, that's the risk he should take in donating fluids. makes me wonder, would this be effective retrospectively or would only apply to all new sperm donors (after the court ruling)?
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Rowa
Profile Joined July 2010
Belgium962 Posts
May 21 2011 12:25 GMT
#97
As an IVF kid myself, I am strongly against the IVF method.

When I learnt about it, I felt like I was just some byproduct of science. And I still do.

We don't even understand a tenth of what makes us "choose" a partner, but it is heavily chemical, both parents respond to eachother in ways science can't even fathom. Yet we think we know better than mother nature and determine who can or cannot sell their seed by some physical / mental tests that are completely irrelevant.

Some people already tried to play with that, and it was the Nazis doing eugenics, but guess what ?

It does not work ! Recessive genes and such play a huge role, and if one can never predict the outcome, at least nature has much better ways than us to deal with all the troubles that might occur.

By bypassing the whole natural process of mating, IVF creates abnormalities like me. Some of us may be fine with it, surrounded in a right environement, but most of people like me I know share the same opinion as mine.

The donor's identity should be available for health reasons as aforementionned, and imo the whole IVF service should not be allowed.

If unfertile couples want a child, theres adoption.
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ThaZenith
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada3116 Posts
May 21 2011 12:35 GMT
#98
If past donators expected anonymity, then opening the records to them is wrong. They may have to deal with stuff they didn't sign up for. Opening the records for donators donating past this point is ok, as long as they're donating knowing that they can be looked up by possible future kids.

nalgene
Profile Joined October 2010
Canada2153 Posts
May 21 2011 12:43 GMT
#99
On May 21 2011 13:41 Stroggoz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 21 2011 03:08 Mikilatov wrote:
What I've never understood is why people seem to care who their biological parents are?

If I found out my father wasn't my real father, I'd say "No, he's my real father, because he raised me and took care of me and still cares for me to this day." Who the hell cares where the sperm came from. There's a difference between a sperm donor and a DAD.

I guess maybe I'd have to be put in that position to understand, but honestly, I don't think I'd give two shits if I didn't know my 'biological' father, if he was just a random sperm donor.


what if the doner is a nigger.

User was temp banned for this post.

Why hate?

What if your dad was really Curtis Jackson...? Shot 9 times and still alive...
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Iyerbeth
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
England2410 Posts
May 21 2011 12:48 GMT
#100
On May 21 2011 21:25 Rowa wrote:
The donor's identity should be available for health reasons as aforementionned


You can give health information without forcing no anonymity.
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