EPTSperm donation and anonymity - Page 3
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SlapMySalami
United States1060 Posts
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Kenderson
Canada280 Posts
On May 21 2011 03:37 Mikilatov wrote: That's another thing... Would such legislation be retroactive? Does this mean that people who donated sperm thinking it was anonymous are now having these records revealed? That's pretty fucked up, if you ask me. If the legislation is going to change, the least they can do is at least make it only count for future donations, so those who donated under the promise of anonymity aren't hung out to dry. That's a good point. It has to be for future donations only. Without guaranteed anonymity I'm sure many of the donations wouldn't have been made in the first place. Like my dad always said, "You can't change the rules in the middle of the game." | ||
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ComusLoM
Norway3547 Posts
On May 21 2011 03:10 ishboh wrote: i can agree with this, but if it were me, i would want to find my biological father, entirely out of curiosity Yeah completely on the same boat here. I think it should be an opt in for both father and child though. | ||
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Kenderson
Canada280 Posts
On May 21 2011 04:35 DoomsVille wrote: That's the exact opposite of what top notch genetic material is. I don't think that was necessary, and you don't know me. I was joking about the top notch thing but only half joking. I wasn't gonna brag but you leave me no choice. I was identified as "gifted" at a young age, I'm a nerd and at the same time I excell in athletics, I'm tall and thin with fast metabolism and the majority of my family is very similar. So ya, top notch. P.S. Don't be a dick. | ||
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Exogelatin
Canada28 Posts
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Dogchow89
United States5 Posts
On May 21 2011 04:54 Exogelatin wrote: What if someone needs bone marrow or some other material from a family member? I don't think someone should suffer or die just because a promise of anonymity was once made. You make it seem like that's now an obligation to the donor and the donor's family. | ||
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Valashu
Netherlands561 Posts
You asked them to give sperm and they have to live with the thought of having a child somewhere and promised anonymity and didn't live up to it. This is bad. | ||
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Yurie
11649 Posts
I can agree about anonymous donating becoming forbidden, the people involved then knows the deal. They would then know they might become responsible for the child in a worst case scenario (which they then can give up to the state if they want to). I myself wouldn't try to find out my parent. But there seems to be a lot of people that value an unknown a lot... | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43580 Posts
On May 21 2011 04:40 Kenderson wrote: That's a good point. It has to be for future donations only. Without guaranteed anonymity I'm sure many of the donations wouldn't have been made in the first place. Like my dad always said, "You can't change the rules in the middle of the game." Agreed. They would have to be grandfathered in to the system as exceptions, so to speak. That would only be fair, from the sound of the original contract. | ||
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Moody
United States750 Posts
On May 21 2011 04:06 Miiike wrote: I get $100 per donation. Holy shit... I've got a towel leaning against my desk at home that's worth probably a couple hundred thou. | ||
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Miiike
United States141 Posts
On May 21 2011 05:12 Moody wrote: Holy shit... I've got a towel leaning against my desk at home that's worth probably a couple hundred thou. Yeah it's a lot of money. I've signed up to donate at least once a week, which is what I usually do. If the gf isn't around for the week I try to get in two. You have to "abstain" for 48+ hours beforehand to ensure that there's enough vials to use. This means someone with no sex life and no jerking it could go as many as 3 times a week (mon/weds/fri) but that would be maximum. There's also an overall limit as to how many times you can donate, the explanation of which takes a bit. Generally it's about a year and a half averaging 2 times a week, I think. But yeah, 5k a year for 15 minutes a week is really good spending money. Also -- you should probably throw out that towel. | ||
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DarkPlasmaBall
United States43580 Posts
On May 21 2011 04:51 Kenderson wrote: I don't think that was necessary, and you don't know me. I was joking about the top notch thing but only half joking. I wasn't gonna brag but you leave me no choice. I was identified as "gifted" at a young age, I'm a nerd and at the same time I excell in athletics, I'm tall and thin with fast metabolism and the majority of my family is very similar. So ya, top notch. P.S. Don't be a dick. I'm all of that AND I play as Protoss. People think my race is so imbalanced that they QQ non-stop on this forum about me. I'm clearly far superior to you  | ||
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DarkGeneral
Canada328 Posts
On May 21 2011 03:12 MangoTango wrote: I find that this thread does not arouse my curiousity. stop being such boneheads. | ||
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KomradeKevin
United States88 Posts
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Exogelatin
Canada28 Posts
On May 21 2011 05:02 Dogchow89 wrote: You make it seem like that's now an obligation to the donor and the donor's family. That's a different issue. Access to the information alone can be life or death. | ||
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scorch-
United States816 Posts
On May 21 2011 04:51 Kenderson wrote: I don't think that was necessary, and you don't know me. I was joking about the top notch thing but only half joking. I wasn't gonna brag but you leave me no choice. I was identified as "gifted" at a young age, I'm a nerd and at the same time I excell in athletics, I'm tall and thin with fast metabolism and the majority of my family is very similar. So ya, top notch. P.S. Don't be a dick. You sit in your room and post about jerking off on internet forums, top notch. Do you also excel at spelling? How tall is tall? How thin is thin? How much of your family is a majority? How fast is your metabolism? Do you realize that you're run-of-the-mill when it comes to the nerds that post on these forums? I bet you knew that bragging is a popular mechanism for coping with insecurity. You posted this to let us know that people carrying top notch genetic material are usually insecure about it, right? Because we didn't realize how insecure people with the best genetic makeup are... especially when there's a discussion concerning genetic makeup. Thank you for the information. Please feel free to continue updating us with more as you see fit. Sperm donors have a right to anonymity as should be granted by the agreement under which they donate. Since when do children have the "right" to know who their biological parents are? | ||
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Kenderson
Canada280 Posts
On May 21 2011 05:20 DarkPlasmaBall wrote: I'm all of that AND I play as Protoss. People think my race is so imbalanced that they QQ non-stop on this forum about me. I'm clearly far superior to you You'd think so, but playing Protoss is like handicapping the opponent  . Only the real superiors play Zerg, and still make their opponents QQ :D lol | ||
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Kenderson
Canada280 Posts
On May 21 2011 05:50 scorch- wrote: You sit in your room and post about jerking off on internet forums, top notch. Do you also excel at spelling? How tall is tall? How thin is thin? How much of your family is a majority? How fast is your metabolism? Do you realize that you're run-of-the-mill when it comes to the nerds that post on these forums? I bet you knew that bragging is a popular mechanism for coping with insecurity. You posted this to let us know that people carrying top notch genetic material are usually insecure about it, right? Because we didn't realize how insecure people with the best genetic makeup are... especially when there's a discussion concerning genetic makeup. Thank you for the information. Please feel free to continue updating us with more as you see fit. Sperm donors have a right to anonymity as should be granted by the agreement under which they donate. Since when do children have the "right" to know who their biological parents are? Wow I should have just kept my mouth shut I guess. I thought I was giving some insight into a unique view on sperm donation, but I guess jealousy prevails... | ||
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Kashll
United States1117 Posts
On May 21 2011 03:33 InsaniaK wrote: I hope so as well, I'm looking forward to some solid arguments. As long as we all keep it civil... don't want this to blow up in our face. | ||
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
On May 21 2011 05:50 scorch- wrote: Sperm donors have a right to anonymity as should be granted by the agreement under which they donate. Since when do children have the "right" to know who their biological parents are? Canada's courts have quite a notoriously broad definition of "rights". | ||
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