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Keep it civil guys.

Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans.
The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally.

Confirmation was as follows
- On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive.
- photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis
- confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan.

This thread is specifically dedicated to the details surrounding the raid/his death.
polysciguy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States488 Posts
May 02 2011 06:23 GMT
#1321
On May 02 2011 15:09 ChinaRestaurant wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 15:02 themell wrote:
On May 02 2011 14:55 polysciguy wrote:
On May 02 2011 14:52 tryummm wrote:
I don't see what the big news is...unless the troops are all coming home. That isn't the case, however.


There were other Al Qaeda leaders, like Anwar Al-Awlaki.


its the message behind it.

think about it, what would happen if someone assassinated obama tonight? well, tomorrow we'd see the innaugaration of biden, would anything drastically change? probably not. so why assassinate a leader at all?


morale loss and confusion among the enemy ranks. There's no "clear" leader when the original leader dies. For the presidency, It's different because there is a clear line of succession if Obama dies. For Bin Laden, it's different because there is no clear line of succession. When Bin Laden dies, no one knows who the new leader is. Instead, you'll have multiple "leaders" pop up. This causes several small groups to form, but these groups can be hostile or non-communicative to other groups. What happens is a total decrease in power as no one knows who to follow.

Think of it like this. You play starcraft and you give shared control to someone. However, it's difficult for you to communicate with the other leader, so each of you start giving orders to your army. You order your army to one spot, but then he orders them to another without you knowing. That means total mayhem.


I thought their organizations were organized in cells i.e. they largely relied on their own local leaders. Might be wrong though.

to an extent, orders still come from the higher-ups, the cell organization means it can't be swept up very well because very few people know anyone else, and almost noone from other cells.
glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever---napoleon
Fat.Cat91
Profile Joined May 2011
50 Posts
May 02 2011 06:24 GMT
#1322
pre-election obama bluff
Zero Hwaiting!!!
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
May 02 2011 06:27 GMT
#1323
On May 02 2011 15:24 Fat.Cat91 wrote:
pre-election obama bluff


I don't this is going to work out...

It's not me, it's you...

Please go.
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Awesomeness
Profile Joined October 2008
Germany1361 Posts
May 02 2011 06:27 GMT
#1324
On May 02 2011 15:08 Euronyme wrote:

Arn't russian media owned by Putin though? The press there don't have the liberty of the press, so it's not worth much as a source I'm afraid.


EIther way, it does seem like Usama got drone rushed :|


Dude, Russia is not the Soviet Union anymore. Mass media is just as flawed as in the US or any other western country, just has a different perspective obviously. Actually checking both sides will get you much more reliable information than just believing everything CNN says...
xlord 5:0
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
May 02 2011 06:29 GMT
#1325
[image loading]

Thought this pic needed to be posted.
Attica
Profile Joined February 2010
United States277 Posts
May 02 2011 06:30 GMT
#1326
On May 02 2011 15:20 hYdrA-MeNo wrote:
HES DEAD
WARNING HES DEAD PIC IS GRAFFIC !





+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Wtf happened to his eyes? Looks like an execution style of death. Not that I care but it would have been nice to take him in alive.
CaptainFwiffo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States576 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 06:37:26
May 02 2011 06:30 GMT
#1327
Best picture of the night:

[image loading]

Edit: Rarrrr, ninjaed.
"Even though they don't drink milk, milk comes out of their nose, disturbingly." - Tasteless
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
May 02 2011 06:30 GMT
#1328
^^^ Should put that in the Pictures say a 1000 words thread.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 06:35:41
May 02 2011 06:32 GMT
#1329
On May 02 2011 15:30 On_Slaught wrote:
^^^ Should put that in the Pictures say a 1000 words thread.


I guess technically it would say 1008.

Edit:Oh dear god epic fail.
quaffle
Profile Joined December 2010
United States249 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 06:33:46
May 02 2011 06:32 GMT
#1330
oh my god. i smell government involvement.

edit: ^ fail, 1008 words
Your success is only measured by the strength of your competitors.
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 02 2011 06:33 GMT
#1331
On May 02 2011 15:32 quaffle wrote:
oh my god. i smell government involvement.


lol no shit?
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
thoradycus
Profile Joined August 2010
Malaysia3262 Posts
May 02 2011 06:34 GMT
#1332
On May 02 2011 15:33 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 15:32 quaffle wrote:
oh my god. i smell government involvement.


lol no shit?

LOL?
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
May 02 2011 06:36 GMT
#1333
On May 02 2011 15:33 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 15:32 quaffle wrote:
oh my god. i smell government involvement.


lol no shit?


Donald Trump sponsored it all.
backtoback
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada1276 Posts
May 02 2011 06:36 GMT
#1334
[image loading]

see you in 2012 obama!!
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
May 02 2011 06:37 GMT
#1335
http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/05/02/after-killing-of-bin-laden-reaction-pours-in/?ref=politics

Official responses to the death from various government sources.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Badred
Profile Joined August 2009
Canada129 Posts
May 02 2011 06:39 GMT
#1336
On May 02 2011 15:36 backtoback wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


see you in 2012 obama!!

That's hilarious! Great picture for the text, too.
QuoC
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States724 Posts
May 02 2011 06:40 GMT
#1337
from here: http://www.cnn.com/2011/WORLD/asiapcf/05/02/bin.laden.raid/index.html?hpt=T1

The U.S. team was at the compound for about 40 minutes, the officials said. There were no casualties on the American side, although a U.S. helicopter crashed during the raid due to mechanical problems. The helicopter was then destroyed for security reasons, senior administration officials said.

did anyone else find this confusing? x.x
Dario "TLO" Wünsch -- Favorite SC2 Player
CaptainFwiffo
Profile Joined August 2010
United States576 Posts
May 02 2011 06:44 GMT
#1338
It's been routine for a while to destroy downed US aircraft to avoid technology getting into hostile hands.
"Even though they don't drink milk, milk comes out of their nose, disturbingly." - Tasteless
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 02 2011 06:45 GMT
#1339
On May 02 2011 15:21 thedirtyleg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 15:15 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
From a guy who works in Abbottabad, and he's interesting tweet 10 hours ago:

A huge window shaking bang here in Abbottabad Cantt. I hope its not the start of something nasty :-S

My favorite tweets of his:

@ReallyVirtual
Sohaib Athar
Uh oh, now I'm the guy who liveblogged the Osama raid without knowing it.
1 hour ago via TweetDeck

&

@ReallyVirtual
Sohaib Athar
and here come the mails from the mainstream media... *sigh*
1 hour ago via TweetDeck


Didn't the raid actually occur a week ago? So...that tweet was not related?
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
May 02 2011 06:45 GMT
#1340
Yeah if you cant take it back destroy anything that is important, it's how you hide military tech even wrecked crap can still give insight into how it works.
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