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Keep it civil guys. Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans. The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally. Confirmation was as follows - On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive. - photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis - confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan. This thread is specifically dedicated to the details surrounding the raid/his death. | ||
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deth2munkies
United States4051 Posts
On May 02 2011 15:02 EnderCraft wrote: Its funny. But for dumb people. Thats a local fox channel. not the actual "fox news". And I hope people realize that it's just a missing colon, should read: "Obama: bin Laden is dead." It is hilariously ironic though. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
On May 02 2011 15:08 Wyk wrote: A slight question, what if he isnt dead? Um DNA confirms it | ||
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ChinaRestaurant
Austria324 Posts
On May 02 2011 15:02 themell wrote: morale loss and confusion among the enemy ranks. There's no "clear" leader when the original leader dies. For the presidency, It's different because there is a clear line of succession if Obama dies. For Bin Laden, it's different because there is no clear line of succession. When Bin Laden dies, no one knows who the new leader is. Instead, you'll have multiple "leaders" pop up. This causes several small groups to form, but these groups can be hostile or non-communicative to other groups. What happens is a total decrease in power as no one knows who to follow. Think of it like this. You play starcraft and you give shared control to someone. However, it's difficult for you to communicate with the other leader, so each of you start giving orders to your army. You order your army to one spot, but then he orders them to another without you knowing. That means total mayhem. I thought their organizations were organized in cells i.e. they largely relied on their own local leaders. Might be wrong though. | ||
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Fraidnot
United States824 Posts
On May 02 2011 15:08 Wyk wrote: A slight question, what if he isnt dead? Oops ...but seriously he's dead. | ||
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Xkalibert
United States1404 Posts
this guy tweeted about the US operations of killing Osama bin laden without actually knowing what going on read from what he tweeted 10 hrs ago | ||
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Pengtoss
207 Posts
On May 02 2011 14:36 RxN wrote: Recently leaked wikileaks documents showed that the US intelligence community believes what a lot of people have been saying for years - that Pakistan's ISI is a terrorist organization and up to their neck in dealings with Al Qaeda and other terrorist groups. Now that it turns out that he was hiding in the middle of Pakistan, in a town with a gigantic military presence and in an area just a stone's throw away from the capital.....well, let's just say it doesn't look good for Pakistan. Of course, I'm just going on my opinion and what I've read over the years but I've been of that belief for years now. lol now I feel stupid for replying to him because I don't really know anything in the first place WikiLeaks have shown several documents against U.S that I dont even need to mention, they are pretty clear... Nd as far as ISI is concerned, there are several cases going on them, if they were the ones hiding him then I would rather call them as AlQaeda II  At least ISI is not acting on the nations or armys behalf. And yeah reports say that he dint live permanently live in Abbottabad (the city ure talking about), he moved to his place over there on temporary basis recently... Abbottabad is an army station and one of the most peaceful cities and it has been this way forever... We started with blaming Afgh for hiding Usama, then moved to Pak...for 10 years no one was even certain where he was hiding, it took billions to just find the locations...believe me if u.s was really looking for him, it would.have taken lesser resources... Haha, ISI could have been bribed for a lot less money :p Try researching about those aimless drone attacks  Try reaearching about those soldiers and how they rape women in afgh, kill animals over there and misuse their power and the power of their weapon... Try researching on American involvement in Pakitani politics and ISI... ._. His POV still seems a bit biased, but I don't want to make any enemies so I'll just stop... >< Thoughts? | ||
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themell
43 Posts
On May 02 2011 15:08 Wyk wrote: A slight question, what if he isnt dead? he is. They used DNA testing to verify that it's him | ||
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Probulous
Australia3894 Posts
On May 02 2011 15:08 Wyk wrote: A slight question, what if he isnt dead? Then the whole world got trolled... | ||
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zJayy962
1363 Posts
Wouldn't they have needed his DNA previously to prove that its the same person? Not that I believe hes still alive, just wondering when the US obtained a sample of his DNA to begin with. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On May 02 2011 15:12 zJayy962 wrote: Wouldn't they have needed his DNA previously to prove that its the same person? Not that I believe hes still alive, just wondering when the US obtained a sample of his DNA to begin with. They used his sister's DNA | ||
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Godstorm
Romania845 Posts
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SolonTLG
United States299 Posts
On May 02 2011 15:09 Xkalibert wrote: https://twitter.com/#!/ReallyVirtual this guy tweeted about the US operations of killing Osama bin laden without actually knowing what going on read from what he tweeted 10 hrs ago Wow, that is crazy cool! | ||
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kaisen
United States601 Posts
On May 02 2011 14:37 Morfildur wrote: Type 4: Killing someone - anyone - is bad. ![[image loading]](http://i.min.us/in27yg.gif) Killing someone is bad, but then again, killing someone like Bin Laden has done humanity a favor. | ||
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
On May 02 2011 15:08 Wyk wrote: A slight question, what if he isnt dead? He'd send a video of himself explaining that he's still alive and we'd see it tomorrow or in a week. USA would claim its fake, etc. You can't back out of saying you have DNA evidence lol. | ||
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Le BucheRON
Canada619 Posts
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ChinaRestaurant
Austria324 Posts
On May 02 2011 15:13 kaisen wrote: Killing someone is bad, but then again, killing someone like Bin Laden has done humanity a favor. Holy fuck that gif is hilarious :> | ||
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{CC}StealthBlue
United States41117 Posts
A huge window shaking bang here in Abbottabad Cantt. I hope its not the start of something nasty :-S | ||
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zalz
Netherlands3704 Posts
The ISI has been corrupt for a long time and is in bed with terrorism. There is not really any doubt about it since there have been countless documents that show just that. The ISI exists in a weird place where it's government allows it while it has worked against it's own government many a time. The USA however isn't a stupid and knows this and probably worked against the more extreme terrorist supporters in the group. Anyway, good news this guy is dead. Doubt it will do much in the practicality of fighting terrorism but it feels like a victory and you need those aswell. | ||
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hYdrA-MeNo
Mexico344 Posts
WARNING HES DEAD PIC IS GRAFFIC ! + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://imgur.com/hr1Ar.jpg) | ||
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Gonff
United States686 Posts
On May 02 2011 15:15 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: From a guy who works in Abbottabad, and he's interesting tweet 10 hours ago: My favorite tweets of his: @ReallyVirtual Sohaib Athar Uh oh, now I'm the guy who liveblogged the Osama raid without knowing it. 1 hour ago via TweetDeck & @ReallyVirtual Sohaib Athar and here come the mails from the mainstream media... *sigh* 1 hour ago via TweetDeck | ||
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