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Keep it civil guys.

Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans.
The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally.

Confirmation was as follows
- On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive.
- photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis
- confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan.

This thread is specifically dedicated to the details surrounding the raid/his death.
FallDownMarigold
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3710 Posts
May 02 2011 05:46 GMT
#1261
On May 02 2011 14:42 JiYan wrote:
how come people are saying that pakistan is under heat for possibly harboring bin laden when obama himself said in his address that the mission was accomplished via joint efforts by us and pakistan govt.


It's a long, arduous history. In short, Pakistan has a very precarious history/relationship with the US, largely based upon facts related to India and also to Cold War politics. Pakistan's ISI (sort of like the CIA) was known to support Pakistani Taliban cells, which support cells within Afghanistan, etc. On the other hand, Pakistan is obligated to cooperate with the US, so it must cut its ties and deny ISI involvement, etc, in order to receive US military aid (under the W Bush admin.).
ThumperSD
Profile Joined September 2010
United States333 Posts
May 02 2011 05:47 GMT
#1262
On May 02 2011 14:44 Jman5 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 14:44 ThumperSD wrote:
They will probably hang him. Lame death. I want to see him fucked up!

He's dead Jim.

Look at top page
wake up your mind
ChinaRestaurant
Profile Joined May 2008
Austria324 Posts
May 02 2011 05:48 GMT
#1263
Nah perfectly reasonable to have a kill on sight protocol if he has already been sentenced to death.

Also apparently he has been shot in the head? I hope once the pictures come out they wont be too messed up or people will start doubting its really him. Would probably have been better to not shoot him in the head. But on the other side people will always find reasons to suggest it isnt really him or that he died some time ago. Even i didnt think he was still alive after that long absence in the media.
SPAAAAAAACE
polysciguy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States488 Posts
May 02 2011 05:48 GMT
#1264
On May 02 2011 14:45 Keitzer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 14:38 polysciguy wrote:
On May 02 2011 14:37 Morfildur wrote:
On May 02 2011 14:29 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On May 02 2011 14:28 SweetNJoshSauce wrote:
Types of posts in the "Osama Bin Laden Killed" thread:

Type one: merica is the fucking shit! Get some!

Type two: I hate the imperialistic America and secretly wish Bin laden was still alive

:D

Type 3: Instead of commenting on the actual topic, I'm going to try some inane meta-analysis of the discussion and thereby prove how intellectual and outside-the-box I am.


Type 4: Killing someone - anyone - is bad. If they knew where he lived, why didn't they _capture_ him?


because he's in pakistan, legally we can't.


so illegally capture him eh?

to what end? so he can be publicly executed in the middle of time square? pretty sure you can't hold a trial when the person being tried is being held illegally. shooting him in the face was probably the better choice bye the military
glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever---napoleon
Romantic
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1844 Posts
May 02 2011 05:48 GMT
#1265
On May 02 2011 14:46 FallDownMarigold wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 14:42 JiYan wrote:
how come people are saying that pakistan is under heat for possibly harboring bin laden when obama himself said in his address that the mission was accomplished via joint efforts by us and pakistan govt.


It's a long, arduous history. In short, Pakistan has a very precarious history/relationship with the US, largely based upon facts related to India and also to Cold War politics. Pakistan's ISI (sort of like the CIA) was known to support Pakistani Taliban cells, which support cells within Afghanistan, etc. On the other hand, Pakistan is obligated to cooperate with the US, so it must cut its ties and deny ISI involvement, etc, in order to receive US military aid (under the W Bush admin.).

It is probably worth pointing out that the Pakistani government isn't the most stable in the world. Different departments or people can easily be working towards opposite goals. Some could publically support one position while working to strengthen the other, etc.
SweetNJoshSauce
Profile Joined July 2010
United States468 Posts
May 02 2011 05:50 GMT
#1266
On May 02 2011 14:29 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 14:28 SweetNJoshSauce wrote:
Types of posts in the "Osama Bin Laden Killed" thread:

Type one: merica is the fucking shit! Get some!

Type two: I hate the imperialistic America and secretly wish Bin laden was still alive

:D

Type 3: Instead of commenting on the actual topic, I'm going to try some inane meta-analysis of the discussion and thereby prove how intellectual and outside-the-box I am.


haha nice, but listen my friend, I'm more of a "Dont give a shit, but always find TL political threads to be hilarious."

I'm sure there's others in thread that think the same way and see the same pattern I do.
ThumperSD
Profile Joined September 2010
United States333 Posts
May 02 2011 05:50 GMT
#1267
On May 02 2011 14:48 polysciguy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 14:45 Keitzer wrote:
On May 02 2011 14:38 polysciguy wrote:
On May 02 2011 14:37 Morfildur wrote:
On May 02 2011 14:29 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On May 02 2011 14:28 SweetNJoshSauce wrote:
Types of posts in the "Osama Bin Laden Killed" thread:

Type one: merica is the fucking shit! Get some!

Type two: I hate the imperialistic America and secretly wish Bin laden was still alive

:D

Type 3: Instead of commenting on the actual topic, I'm going to try some inane meta-analysis of the discussion and thereby prove how intellectual and outside-the-box I am.


Type 4: Killing someone - anyone - is bad. If they knew where he lived, why didn't they _capture_ him?


because he's in pakistan, legally we can't.


so illegally capture him eh?

to what end? so he can be publicly executed in the middle of time square? pretty sure you can't hold a trial when the person being tried is being held illegally. shooting him in the face was probably the better choice bye the military

It would have been too risky trying to capture him. This was probably the first real opportunity we had at him since 911. Think youre right about not being able to hold a trial while holding someone illegally though.
wake up your mind
ThumperSD
Profile Joined September 2010
United States333 Posts
May 02 2011 05:51 GMT
#1268
On May 02 2011 14:50 SweetNJoshSauce wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 14:29 StorkHwaiting wrote:
On May 02 2011 14:28 SweetNJoshSauce wrote:
Types of posts in the "Osama Bin Laden Killed" thread:

Type one: merica is the fucking shit! Get some!

Type two: I hate the imperialistic America and secretly wish Bin laden was still alive

:D

Type 3: Instead of commenting on the actual topic, I'm going to try some inane meta-analysis of the discussion and thereby prove how intellectual and outside-the-box I am.


haha nice, but listen my friend, I'm more of a "Dont give a shit, but always find TL political threads to be hilarious."

I'm sure there's others in thread that think the same way and see the same pattern I do.

Not just TL, it's everywhere
wake up your mind
Go0g3n
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Russian Federation410 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 05:52:46
May 02 2011 05:51 GMT
#1269
He was actually killed by the Drone, bombed to be precise, so don't expect to see the body.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
May 02 2011 05:52 GMT
#1270
Fox' true allegiances:

[image loading]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOOOOL
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
May 02 2011 05:52 GMT
#1271
On May 02 2011 14:51 Go0g3n wrote:
He was actually killed with the Drone, so don't expect to see the body.


Huzzah for sources!!
Yargh
tryummm
Profile Joined August 2009
774 Posts
May 02 2011 05:52 GMT
#1272
I don't see what the big news is...unless the troops are all coming home. That isn't the case, however.


There were other Al Qaeda leaders, like Anwar Al-Awlaki.
DannyJ
Profile Joined March 2010
United States5110 Posts
May 02 2011 05:53 GMT
#1273
On May 02 2011 14:51 Go0g3n wrote:
He was actually killed by the Drone, bombed to be precise, so don't expect to see the body.


What the, Osama wasn't anymore powerful than a probe?
Probulous
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Australia3894 Posts
May 02 2011 05:53 GMT
#1274
On May 02 2011 14:51 Go0g3n wrote:
He was actually killed by the Drone, bombed to be precise, so don't expect to see the body.


Source?

From what I read it says a human operation. So no drone...
"Dude has some really interesting midgame switches that I wouldn't have expected. "I violated your house" into "HIHO THE DAIRY OH!" really threw me. You don't usually expect children's poetry harass as a follow up " - AmericanUmlaut
Pengtoss
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
207 Posts
May 02 2011 05:54 GMT
#1275
I've been wondering how exactly he was killed, and apparently so have many other Internet denizens.... O_O

Type in "how was" in google, and the first two suggestions refer to Bin Laden's death LOL
Go0g3n
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Russian Federation410 Posts
May 02 2011 05:54 GMT
#1276
On May 02 2011 14:52 JinDesu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 14:51 Go0g3n wrote:
He was actually killed with the Drone, so don't expect to see the body.


Huzzah for sources!!


It's all over Russian news - http://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/20110502075143.shtml

It basically says that the drone bombed the building Bin-Laden was in, then spec-ops recovered the body, did a DNA test, which was positive.
themell
Profile Joined February 2011
43 Posts
May 02 2011 05:54 GMT
#1277
On May 02 2011 14:51 Go0g3n wrote:
He was actually killed by the Drone, bombed to be precise, so don't expect to see the body.


he wasn't killed with a drone, but with a gunshot. And there's already pics of osama's dead bloody body around the internet. I saw the pic several times already.
ThumperSD
Profile Joined September 2010
United States333 Posts
May 02 2011 05:55 GMT
#1278
On May 02 2011 14:51 Go0g3n wrote:
He was actually killed with the Drone, so don't expect to see the body.

Lies
http://i53.tinypic.com/t7mssy.jpg
wake up your mind
polysciguy
Profile Joined August 2010
United States488 Posts
May 02 2011 05:55 GMT
#1279
On May 02 2011 14:52 tryummm wrote:
I don't see what the big news is...unless the troops are all coming home. That isn't the case, however.


There were other Al Qaeda leaders, like Anwar Al-Awlaki.


its the message behind it.

think about it, what would happen if someone assassinated obama tonight? well, tomorrow we'd see the innaugaration of biden, would anything drastically change? probably not. so why assassinate a leader at all?
glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever---napoleon
JinDesu
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States3990 Posts
May 02 2011 05:55 GMT
#1280
On May 02 2011 14:54 Pengtoss wrote:
I've been wondering how exactly he was killed, and apparently so have many other Internet denizens.... O_O

Type in "how was" in google, and the first two suggestions refer to Bin Laden's death LOL


Multiple news outlets say it was a strike force with Navy Seals/JSOP(?) that landed via Blackhawk helicopters at the fortified building. The operation ended with Osama being shot in the head after taking a woman as a hostage/human shield.
Yargh
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