Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans. The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally.
Confirmation was as follows - On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive. - photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis - confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan.
This thread is specifically dedicated to the details surrounding the raid/his death.
On May 02 2011 13:38 Lamppost wrote: I do not believe this to be the case, but I worry that Osama Bin Laden acted has a Castro for al'qaeda. Having him in that position created some stability mind you that stability was weekly suicide bombing in the middle east. Now with Osama dead a new leader will rise up and this new leader might be even worse.
I don't understand posts like these. Would it be better if Osama wasn't dead?
[Updated, 12:24 a.m. ET] A team of U.S. Navy SEALs carried out the operation in Pakistan that ended in the death of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, CNN's Chris Lawrence reported. The operation lasted about 40 minutes, and the team had practiced the raid a few times.
from cnn live update.
Imagine being that team and training for a mission like that?? talk about intense
Yes, intense indeed. There are about ~3,000 men like that, and perhaps another few thousand similar, from other outfits like the PJs, CCs, green berets, rangers, marsoc, force recon, etc. The reality is, the mission was typical for them. They train to this much and far more, everyday. They'll be back at it tomorrow, mark my words.
I just can't wait for the history channel/Natgeo special on it. XD LOL... Am i the only one on this?
On May 02 2011 13:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote: More media outlets saying it was Navy Seals Team 6
Yeah I called it wrong, thought it was delta.
Seal team 6 are just as capable job well done.
Seal Team 6 is not an entity. Look it up. Delta & DevGru specialize in counter-terrorist operations, so it isn't impossible that it was either.
My best guess is that it would have been a Joint Special Operations initiative involving SEALs and perhaps Army Rangers - best Direct Actions operators there is to offer.
What do you mean entity?
The United States Naval Special Warfare Development Group (NSWDG), commonly known as DEVGRU and informally by its former name SEAL Team Six (ST6), is what I was refering to.
What I meant to say is according to media outlets(which is totally unconfirmed of course), they claim it was a Navy seals operation along with intelligence agencies. I mentioned a couple of posts earlier I thought it would be delta.
ST6 - it's no longer in existence. It's since been renamed DevGru. I see you did look this up, that is all I wanted to point out. ST6 was once a name, since been removed following controversial money mismanagement and corruption.
Operations of this type commonly are joint in nature, meaning you're right, it would be reasonable to assume a combination of both SEALs/SF/Rangers. In this case I guess it was only the SEALs that saw DA
[Updated, 12:24 a.m. ET] A team of U.S. Navy SEALs carried out the operation in Pakistan that ended in the death of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, CNN's Chris Lawrence reported. The operation lasted about 40 minutes, and the team had practiced the raid a few times.
from cnn live update.
Imagine being that team and training for a mission like that?? talk about intense
Yes, intense indeed. There are about ~3,000 men like that, and perhaps another few thousand similar, from other outfits like the PJs, CCs, green berets, rangers, marsoc, force recon, etc. The reality is, the mission was typical for them. They train to this much and far more, everyday. They'll be back at it tomorrow, mark my words.
All the more reason to respect these men on another level
[Updated, 12:24 a.m. ET] A team of U.S. Navy SEALs carried out the operation in Pakistan that ended in the death of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, CNN's Chris Lawrence reported. The operation lasted about 40 minutes, and the team had practiced the raid a few times.
from cnn live update.
Imagine being that team and training for a mission like that?? talk about intense
Yes, intense indeed. There are about ~3,000 men like that, and perhaps another few thousand similar, from other outfits like the PJs, CCs, green berets, rangers, marsoc, force recon, etc. The reality is, the mission was typical for them. They train to this much and far more, everyday. They'll be back at it tomorrow, mark my words.
I'm not disagreeing with you in any way but I believe the point trying to be made was how many times does that mission actually involve the (former) number 1 most wanted man in the world? It makes you a little more nervous, or it seems like it should.
[Updated, 12:24 a.m. ET] A team of U.S. Navy SEALs carried out the operation in Pakistan that ended in the death of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, CNN's Chris Lawrence reported. The operation lasted about 40 minutes, and the team had practiced the raid a few times.
from cnn live update.
Imagine being that team and training for a mission like that?? talk about intense
Yes, intense indeed. There are about ~3,000 men like that, and perhaps another few thousand similar, from other outfits like the PJs, CCs, green berets, rangers, marsoc, force recon, etc. The reality is, the mission was typical for them. They train to this much and far more, everyday. They'll be back at it tomorrow, mark my words.
I'm not disagreeing with you in any way but I believe the point trying to be made was how many times does that mission actually involve the (former) number 1 most wanted man in the world? It makes you a little more nervous, or it seems like it should.
These guys are so well-trained that nervousness wouldn't mess them up. We're talking the best special forces team in the world here.
On May 02 2011 13:21 Lemonwalrus wrote: Whoever fired the shot will never have to pay for his own drink for the rest of his life.
Wrong. The man who fired the shot will wake up tomorrow, and go back to training for his next mission. The man is a member of JSOF, he is not James Bond. His work is no different than the 5,000 or so others like him, and he is no better than any of them.
You should have phrased that better. Like "they're all fucking awesome" or "the man who fired the shot is a hero among many."
That is not the mentality. It's just not like that. It's not about being a hero. It's about training, training, and more training, and simply doing the job. Then doing it again. There is no thanks, no hooray, no anything really. No free drinks, to say the least.
Agreed 100%. Morale is a huge factor that can't be ignored.
Anyone got a calculator want to add up the total cost of killing this man? That'll do wonders for morale.
[Updated, 12:24 a.m. ET] A team of U.S. Navy SEALs carried out the operation in Pakistan that ended in the death of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, CNN's Chris Lawrence reported. The operation lasted about 40 minutes, and the team had practiced the raid a few times.
from cnn live update.
Imagine being that team and training for a mission like that?? talk about intense
Yes, intense indeed. There are about ~3,000 men like that, and perhaps another few thousand similar, from other outfits like the PJs, CCs, green berets, rangers, marsoc, force recon, etc. The reality is, the mission was typical for them. They train to this much and far more, everyday. They'll be back at it tomorrow, mark my words.
I'm not disagreeing with you in any way but I believe the point trying to be made was how many times does that mission actually involve the (former) number 1 most wanted man in the world? It makes you a little more nervous, or it seems like it should.
These guys are so well-trained that nervousness wouldn't mess them up. We're talking the best special forces team in the world here.
On May 02 2011 13:21 Lemonwalrus wrote: Whoever fired the shot will never have to pay for his own drink for the rest of his life.
Wrong. The man who fired the shot will wake up tomorrow, and go back to training for his next mission. The man is a member of JSOF, he is not James Bond. His work is no different than the 5,000 or so others like him, and he is no better than any of them.
You should have phrased that better. Like "they're all fucking awesome" or "the man who fired the shot is a hero among many."
That is not the mentality. It's just not like that. It's not about being a hero. It's about training, training, and more training, and simply doing the job. Then doing it again. There is no thanks, no hooray, no anything really. No free drinks, to say the least.
Agreed 100%. Morale is a huge factor that can't be ignored.
Anyone got a calculator want to add up the total cost of killing this man? That'll do wonders for morale.
Money has already been spent. Might as well get him.
EPT
