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Keep it civil guys.

Alright I am sick of warning people: Trolling, flame baiting, and derailing will result in insta bans.
The same goes for conspiracy theorists and stupidity generally.

Confirmation was as follows
- On-site DNA test which came back as 99% positive.
- photos of face sent to CIA and confirmed with photo analysis
- confirmed by 20 year old wife who live in pakistan.

This thread is specifically dedicated to the details surrounding the raid/his death.
ChinaRestaurant
Profile Joined May 2008
Austria324 Posts
May 02 2011 04:43 GMT
#1021
On May 02 2011 13:42 StorkHwaiting wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 13:30 Mohdoo wrote:
On May 02 2011 13:28 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On May 02 2011 13:25 Jergen wrote:
On May 02 2011 13:23 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On May 02 2011 13:21 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Whoever fired the shot will never have to pay for his own drink for the rest of his life.


Wrong. The man who fired the shot will wake up tomorrow, and go back to training for his next mission. The man is a member of JSOF, he is not James Bond. His work is no different than the 5,000 or so others like him, and he is no better than any of them.


You should have phrased that better. Like "they're all fucking awesome" or "the man who fired the shot is a hero among many."


That is not the mentality. It's just not like that. It's not about being a hero. It's about training, training, and more training, and simply doing the job. Then doing it again. There is no thanks, no hooray, no anything really. No free drinks, to say the least.

Agreed 100%. Morale is a huge factor that can't be ignored.


Anyone got a calculator want to add up the total cost of killing this man? That'll do wonders for morale.


I dont think anyone would care about those numbers right now to be quite honest :D.
SPAAAAAAACE
BadWithNames
Profile Joined April 2010
United States441 Posts
May 02 2011 04:43 GMT
#1022
TL.net could find the downside to a box of kittens...
One year in Seoul...yesh please
Poyo
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada790 Posts
May 02 2011 04:44 GMT
#1023
On May 02 2011 13:40 FallDownMarigold wrote:
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On May 02 2011 13:37 Poyo wrote:
On May 02 2011 13:27 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On May 02 2011 13:24 Poyo wrote:
On May 02 2011 13:22 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
More media outlets saying it was Navy Seals Team 6


Yeah I called it wrong, thought it was delta.

Seal team 6 are just as capable job well done.


Seal Team 6 is not an entity. Look it up. Delta & DevGru specialize in counter-terrorist operations, so it isn't impossible that it was either.

My best guess is that it would have been a Joint Special Operations initiative involving SEALs and perhaps Army Rangers - best Direct Actions operators there is to offer.


What do you mean entity?

The United States Naval Special Warfare Development Group (NSWDG), commonly known as DEVGRU and informally by its former name SEAL Team Six (ST6), is what I was refering to.

What I meant to say is according to media outlets(which is totally unconfirmed of course), they claim it was a Navy seals operation along with intelligence agencies.
I mentioned a couple of posts earlier I thought it would be delta.



ST6 - it's no longer in existence. It's since been renamed DevGru. I see you did look this up, that is all I wanted to point out. ST6 was once a name, since been removed following controversial money mismanagement and corruption.

Operations of this type commonly are joint in nature, meaning you're right, it would be reasonable to assume a combination of both SEALs/SF/Rangers. In this case I guess it was only the SEALs that saw DA


Yup perhaps one day we'll read a book about this operation
Poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo! poyo!
iamho
Profile Joined June 2009
United States3347 Posts
May 02 2011 04:44 GMT
#1024
Seriously how the heck can you people be arguing on a night like this
OsoVega
Profile Joined December 2010
926 Posts
May 02 2011 04:44 GMT
#1025
On May 02 2011 13:21 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Whoever fired the shot will never have to pay for his own drink for the rest of his life.

I doubt his name will ever be known. He will probably known as a clerk or some other mundane job to everyone but his co-workers and his wife.
Lamppost
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada317 Posts
May 02 2011 04:44 GMT
#1026
On May 02 2011 13:39 Jergen wrote:
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On May 02 2011 13:38 Lamppost wrote:
I do not believe this to be the case, but I worry that Osama Bin Laden acted has a Castro for al'qaeda. Having him in that position created some stability mind you that stability was weekly suicide bombing in the middle east. Now with Osama dead a new leader will rise up and this new leader might be even worse.


I don't understand posts like these. Would it be better if Osama wasn't dead?


I want to point out the place in my post(the first line) where I state that this is just a thought I had and trust me even as a Canadian watching the President of the United state say that they had killed the biggest terrorist ever I got fucking chills all over my body and I felt a joy for the death of someone who caused so much pain to so many people, but I still think that this is something to think about
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Guthix
Profile Joined April 2011
United States209 Posts
May 02 2011 04:45 GMT
#1027
I'm not trying to stir up anything, but did anyone actually confirm that Osama was the one that planned 9/11?
Naniwa fighting!
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
May 02 2011 04:45 GMT
#1028
On May 02 2011 13:39 Jergen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 13:38 Lamppost wrote:
I do not believe this to be the case, but I worry that Osama Bin Laden acted has a Castro for al'qaeda. Having him in that position created some stability mind you that stability was weekly suicide bombing in the middle east. Now with Osama dead a new leader will rise up and this new leader might be even worse.


I don't understand posts like these. Would it be better if Osama wasn't dead?

Probably not. Hes referring to the type of shit that happened when Saddam was taken out of leadership. That's when a country went a little crazy. Osama was just an iconic figure in the terrorist community. I am doubt it matters who takes his place. It's not like he was the leader of a country, he probably had a few hundred followers at most.
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TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
May 02 2011 04:45 GMT
#1029
On May 02 2011 13:42 RJGooner wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 13:40 shabinka wrote:
On May 02 2011 13:38 FallDownMarigold wrote:
On May 02 2011 13:34 Carson wrote:
[Updated, 12:24 a.m. ET] A team of U.S. Navy SEALs carried out the operation in Pakistan that ended in the death of al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, CNN's Chris Lawrence reported. The operation lasted about 40 minutes, and the team had practiced the raid a few times.


from cnn live update.

Imagine being that team and training for a mission like that?? talk about intense


Yes, intense indeed. There are about ~3,000 men like that, and perhaps another few thousand similar, from other outfits like the PJs, CCs, green berets, rangers, marsoc, force recon, etc. The reality is, the mission was typical for them. They train to this much and far more, everyday. They'll be back at it tomorrow, mark my words.

I'm not disagreeing with you in any way but I believe the point trying to be made was how many times does that mission actually involve the (former) number 1 most wanted man in the world? It makes you a little more nervous, or it seems like it should.


These guys are so well-trained that nervousness wouldn't mess them up. We're talking the best special forces team in the world here.


Not to take away from a fantastic team but I think Mossad teams rival (and probably exceed) any U.S. special forces in sheer ability.
Roe
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Canada6002 Posts
May 02 2011 04:45 GMT
#1030
On May 02 2011 13:44 OsoVega wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 02 2011 13:21 Lemonwalrus wrote:
Whoever fired the shot will never have to pay for his own drink for the rest of his life.

I doubt his name will ever be known. He will probably known as a clerk or some other mundane job to everyone but his co-workers and his wife.

Most likely to protect his identity I'd think
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
May 02 2011 04:45 GMT
#1031
I didn't find out until I logged onto Facebook, LOL. Good job to the special forces though.
garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
May 02 2011 04:45 GMT
#1032
On May 02 2011 13:44 iamho wrote:
Seriously how the heck can you people be arguing on a night like this

That exact thought just ran through my head.
#TeamBuLba
IntoTheBush
Profile Joined July 2010
United States552 Posts
May 02 2011 04:45 GMT
#1033
On 9/11 Osama's family was flown out of the United States after all flights were grounded.. So I wont believe it until their is a NON-Goverment affiliated autopsy, but I'm 99.9% sure that won't happen. Also no reason to rejoice for the lives lost on 9/11, Osama wasn't even involved. Regardless if he really is dead then that just one less tyrant involved with the Bush family.

also to those brave men that went into that compound where he was allegedly raided are hero's for those who have lost their lives in the hunt for Osama and other Taliban leaders.
kaisen
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States601 Posts
May 02 2011 04:45 GMT
#1034
[image loading]

Obama, Fuck Yeah.
TheTenthDoc
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States9561 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-05-02 04:46:01
May 02 2011 04:45 GMT
#1035
On May 02 2011 13:45 Lumbridge wrote:
I'm not trying to stir up anything, but did anyone actually confirm that Osama was the one that planned 9/11?


Well he did in numerous speeches. As well as all of his followers.
Nspire
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada43 Posts
May 02 2011 04:45 GMT
#1036
Wonder if christians are celebrating
wat
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
May 02 2011 04:46 GMT
#1037
On May 02 2011 13:43 BadWithNames wrote:
TL.net could find the downside to a box of kittens...


Well let's not forget that the box of kittens are all orphans if their mother isn't in the box. And who knows where those kittens might end up if the wrong person takes them in. I personally am going to reserve any jubilation over the kittens until someone tells me precisely the correct way to think about the whole ordeal...
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Maynarde
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1286 Posts
May 02 2011 04:46 GMT
#1038
Good riddance. Nice snipe from those US ghosts.
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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
May 02 2011 04:46 GMT
#1039
OK FINE HE WILL BUY HIS OWN DRINKS

damnit you guys are buzzkills
Golgotha
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (South)8418 Posts
May 02 2011 04:46 GMT
#1040
On May 02 2011 13:45 Lumbridge wrote:
I'm not trying to stir up anything, but did anyone actually confirm that Osama was the one that planned 9/11?



uhhh dude you are 10 years late...no shit they already confirmed it cuz osama bin laden himself fking took credit for it! people get your heads out of the sand and just be happy this man is gone.
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