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This is the one thing I never understood about the whole online gaming scene with platforms. Perhaps it's just because of my age, and to me a platform was for at-home, friends and family in the same room, sort of stuff; but really, when you get a console these days they want to know so much info - just to play a few games online?
E-mail address, home address, name, account name, passwords, yadda, yadda - and that's not even including the stuff they want if you choose to make a purchase. I always thought it seemed really sketchy and I guess now I know why.
I know some of that info seems pretty insignificant but the whole "Real ID" fiasco with battle.net, SC2 and WoW, really pointed out how much info you can gather on someone from just a name alone.
I think the companies that make these decisions to gather all this info would be better off being run by tech-savvy teens and 20-somethings who actually have a clue what's at risk 
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Really really glad I never picked up anything from them.
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On April 28 2011 01:47 Snaiil wrote:
Better safe than...
*puts on sunglasses*
sony.
lol that is great.
Sony sure looks like it's fucked now. My question is, what will Sony do to recover from this?
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On April 27 2011 21:32 maJes wrote:
From what I gathered, they stored everything as plain-text.
This sentence alone made me laugh so fucking hard for 5 minutes.
It's really surprising how badly the devs failed on the PS3... Isn't it common sense to at least encrypt personal information of your own customers so they don't get assraped by stuff like this?
Well, gl to Sony...
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Is there any more information about who conducted the attack? Was it anonymous again? I remember them saying that they wouldn't attack the customers directly but the timing seems suspicious.
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On April 28 2011 03:21 Mjolnir wrote:This is the one thing I never understood about the whole online gaming scene with platforms. Perhaps it's just because of my age, and to me a platform was for at-home, friends and family in the same room, sort of stuff; but really, when you get a console these days they want to know so much info - just to play a few games online? E-mail address, home address, name, account name, passwords, yadda, yadda - and that's not even including the stuff they want if you choose to make a purchase. I always thought it seemed really sketchy and I guess now I know why. I know some of that info seems pretty insignificant but the whole "Real ID" fiasco with battle.net, SC2 and WoW, really pointed out how much info you can gather on someone from just a name alone. I think the companies that make these decisions to gather all this info would be better off being run by tech-savvy teens and 20-somethings who actually have a clue what's at risk
Corporations enjoy having control over as much of your personal information as possible. By in large it benefits their marketing efforts since they can obtain demographic information directly from users. They can send you targeted ad materials and promotions via email or snail mail. But they also need address and other identifying information for you to make a credit card purchase. In the end, it shouldn't matter that much, since the corporation is not allowed to sell your information to a third party without your permission. When shit goes down like this, do you regret the money paid and time spent on PSN? I wouldn't. Instead I'd be angry as hell at Sony for allowing something like this to happen.
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On April 28 2011 02:55 VIB wrote:As predicted, the lawsuits have started. The first lawsuit against Sony was just filed: http://news.cnet.com/8301-31021_3-20057921-260.html?part=rss&subj=news&tag=2547-1_3-0-20Show nested quote +The suit was filed today on behalf of Kristopher Johns, 36, of Birmingham, Ala., in the U.S. District Court for the Northern District of California. Johns accuses Sony of not taking "reasonable care to protect, encrypt, and secure the private and sensitive data of its users."
He also believes Sony took too long to notify him and other customers that their personal information had been exposed. Because of that, the complaint alleges, Sony did not allow its customers "to make an informed decision as to whether to change credit card numbers, close the exposed accounts, check their credit reports, or take other mitigating actions."
The lawsuit is asking for monetary compensation and free credit card monitoring, and is seeking class action status.
And it's just the beggining. I would strongly advice to whoever has a PS3 to take measures to avoid even bigger problems.
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On April 28 2011 03:09 Scribble wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 03:07 Trowabarton756 wrote:On April 28 2011 03:04 Crying wrote:
Dont worry about your Info,Credit Card and so on,because the group that did this isnt there for the information,it is there because of just ruining Sony ya.....id be worried that someone I haven't authorized has my CC address, name, etc..... Yours and the personal info of 77 million other people. It's not a pleasant thought, but honestly, what would anyone do with that quantity of information?
identity theft is alive and kicking and this is a wet dream for the scum that do it. Basically all the info you would ever need but 77 million different id's. It's been validated through a trusted 3rd party as well(Sony) so you know it's legit.
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I'm not really sure if I bought anything over PSN is there a way to find out?
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Check your bank account statement online.
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Fuck. Despite the fact that I like the PS3 more than Xbox, I must take the switch unless Sony comes up with some top notch spoiling for us PSN'ers, red roses and a box of chocolate, or it's game over.
But damn, Nintendo and Microsoft must be clapping in their small hands now.
King of consoles are down on their knees.
Time to buy all that junk that you should've had when you bought the Xbox360 the first time, I believe.
The fact, that security was breached - it happens. Some new mean amount of god like hackers will eventually break through, but they hesitate to tell the customers which CCs and highly personal (and at times valuable) information is obtainable?
Jesus christ, Sony.
y u no think t.t
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I foresee many Epic Sony Fail memes for the next 10 years.
Information stored in plain text you say? *Facepalm*
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On April 28 2011 02:26 ArYeS wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2011 02:12 wei2coolman wrote:
This is why I'm a PC gamer, lulz :D, I can't believe the PSN was hit so damn hard... Hopefully they get their shit together. I wonder what would be your answer if Bnet or Steam accounts were hacked...
Probably the same, people aren't required to have Steam/Battlenet to play some games online. I don't own SC2 but the Warcraft 3 Bnet-account doesn't even contain any sensitive information.
On April 28 2011 00:33 Daliniues wrote:
Also with nintendo's new "hardcore console" It could have been them, there would most certainly be a market for it after this. It doesn't have to be Microsoft.
Nah, it was obviously a joint operation by Microsoft and Nintendo
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Why are so many people jumping to the conclusion that the data was not encrypted? To use it you need to decrypt it so the crackers may just have gotten their hands on the keys and decrypted the information. It's obviously also extremely bad, but not exactly the same thing. Or, as someone else has also suggested, listened in to the traffic in Sony's internal network, which might not have used SSL. SSL only protects the data from your end of the connection to the server end, to avoid someone listening in when it crosses (usually) the Internet.
Analogously passwords and other information could have been stolen not because they were stored in plain text but because of compromised login software. I am sure after the investigation they will know, but possibly the public/customers never will...
I have requested a new CC and I suggest you do too. If the information is out there it might not be used at once, but in a year or two.
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First, it was no games. Then it was no online play. Now it's no security.
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On April 28 2011 03:42 Roeder wrote:
Fuck. Despite the fact that I like the PS3 more than Xbox, I must take the switch unless Sony comes up with some top notch spoiling for us PSN'ers, red roses and a box of chocolate, or it's game over.
But damn, Nintendo and Microsoft must be clapping in their small hands now.
King of consoles are down on their knees.
Time to buy all that junk that you should've had when you bought the Xbox360 the first time, I believe.
The fact, that security was breached - it happens. Some new mean amount of god like hackers will eventually break through, but they hesitate to tell the customers which CCs and highly personal (and at times valuable) information is obtainable?
Jesus christ, Sony.
y u no think t.t
King of consoles? Nintendo has been comfortably in that seat since....ever.
Sony royally fucked up with this one. I'm really, REALLY curious to see what the long-term implications are for their business.
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On April 28 2011 04:20 Trowabarton756 wrote:
bankruptcy? I'd vote about a 20% chance of that happening ^^
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On April 28 2011 04:20 Trowabarton756 wrote:
bankruptcy?
believe it or not sony does more than sell gaming consoles. i doubt this will greatly affect their place in other markets.. especially considering the ps3 isn't exactly a household item, let alone this whole psn debacle.
regardless i'm shocked it took them so long to get the warning out there, and i'm going to request a new CC tonight.
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Hold on. Let's say I bought something once online from the PS3 store. Was there an option to store the credit card info, or does it store automatically? o_O
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