EPTFear of Banning - Page 16
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Sanitarium14
United States141 Posts
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IzieBoy
United States865 Posts
In an ideal world, everyone would take into consideration what they right, and make it their best quality. But in reality, this is an online forum, nothing can be enforced. | ||
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Sporadic44
United States533 Posts
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Ziken
Ghana1743 Posts
I've only ever had one topic closed, that was because the op was very vague, and have never been warned. Even when you post about a trivial topic, as long as your post is thought out and clear, you really never ought to fear the mods. | ||
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Silmakuoppaanikinko
799 Posts
On April 03 2011 02:26 godemperor wrote: How do you know you didn't misread as well?Well, you can always see the reason for the ban under the ban list forum, and 99.9% of the time they make sense. I wouldn't go further than saying 85-95% made sense. I feel some people get banned for their points being misread. The only people who get banned are the newbies who says "i hope i dont get banned for this" not knowing saying that earn them automatically a temp ban. As far as it was obvious after 5 days on this forum that everyone saying that got one, is that really a just punishment for people who haven't come across such posts yet to see the pattern? | ||
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Craton
United States17264 Posts
The fear of the ban is a good thing: it keeps people in line and makes them think twice before doing dumb things. The longer you're on the site, the more you realize what is acceptable and the less you fear any warns or bans. You also get more latitude if you've been around awhile and contributed than if you're a random 10 post user who joined yesterday. | ||
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Silmakuoppaanikinko
799 Posts
On April 03 2011 03:00 Craton wrote: You can clarify all you want in most cases, people will read what they want to read in a lot of cases no matter how much you clarified. I've had countless debates on for instance 9/11, no matter how often you clarify yourself and say you're not a truther, people will read over it and read what they want to read as long as you imply that you're not convinced of the official story either. Methinks people place themselves into a 'false dilemma' too often and think there are necessarily only two options and ignore possible third roads quite often.Write clarifications then if you think you're posting something controversial enough to be misread. And it isn't even about controversial stuff per se, people often misread an innocent remark and turn it into something that wasn't intended. | ||
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ImHuko
United States996 Posts
The TL mods are actually really lenient as long as you aren't going overboard. If you can give your opinion (negative or positive) in a civil manner, you shouldn't really be worried about a ban. | ||
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Pigsquirrel
United States615 Posts
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=122660 Was hell, never gonna do anything to get banned ever again. | ||
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Craton
United States17264 Posts
On April 03 2011 03:05 Silmakuoppaanikinko wrote: You can clarify all you want in most cases, people will read what they want to read in a lot of cases no matter how much you clarified. I've had countless debates on for instance 9/11, no matter how often you clarify yourself and say you're not a truther, people will read over it and read what they want to read as long as you imply that you're not convinced of the official story either. Methinks people place themselves into a 'false dilemma' too often and think there are necessarily only two options and ignore possible third roads quite often. And it isn't even about controversial stuff per se, people often misread an innocent remark and turn it into something that wasn't intended. People being ignorant in a debate wont get you banned; it will often get them banned. The onus is on you if you want to post what should be an "innocent remark" to make sure it's interpreted as such. If you want to poke a rib at a friend, don't expect people to realize you are friends. Similarly, don't expect for tone or sarcasm to be automatically inferable. Clarify your posts. | ||
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quirinus
Croatia2489 Posts
The only warning in like 7 years was when I asked when a vod was going to be uploaded, as I was eager to watch it. (didn't know that that's against the rules of the vod topic at that time; didn't mean any disrespect towards the vod uploaders, on the contrary, I love them - but now I know it's a no-no) | ||
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Endymion
United States3701 Posts
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Silmakuoppaanikinko
799 Posts
On April 03 2011 03:19 Craton wrote: Assuming the moderators aren't ignorant much?People being ignorant in a debate wont get you banned; it will often get them banned. Mods are humans, and as such they have their ignorances, I've seen a lot of cases on fora where someone who was right was basically banned. I've seen cases of people being called trolls because they tried to explain the physical concept of tunneling and how there is a slight chance you can step through a wall. This is true, mods didn't know, how could they? It sounds incredible, but it's true, so they got banned while being right. The onus is on you if you want to post what should be an "innocent remark" to make sure it's interpreted as such. That's ridiculous, you can just as well extend this to the extremes and say that if a total retard completely misinterprets your point it's supposedly your own fault.Where do you draw the line? If you want to poke a rib at a friend, don't expect people to realize you are friends. Similarly, don't expect for tone or sarcasm to be automatically inferable. Clarify your posts. And where did I speak about sarcasm or poking a rib at friends? I'm talking about very basic stuff that may for instance be caused by differences in dialects of English. For instance, there are dialects of English where 'wife' is considered a very offensive term for 'woman', calling someone 'my wife' there is considered quite offensive, can speakers of other dialects be expected to consider this?Likewise, in a lot of varieties of English 'negro' is not considered in any way offensive, it's as neutral as terms like 'man' or 'Italian', but in some varieties of English it is (especially in the united states), do people across the atlantic really need to consider all the quirks of US English before they can post? Other things are just culture, in South Korea for instance it's not considered in any way offensive to comment that someone has put on weight, a South Korean poster might be quite understandably ignorant about that in some parts of the world this is considered quite sensitive, how could that poster have known this? | ||
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DeepBlu2
United States975 Posts
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
Nope never gotten a warning and never worried about getting one or a ban. | ||
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Reborn8u
United States1761 Posts
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Silmakuoppaanikinko
799 Posts
On April 03 2011 03:31 Reborn8u wrote: Yeah, same here, I can remember IdrA being banned over his remark in the WeRRa scandal thread, I thought his joke was pretty funny, all the more if he did intend it like that, but he probably didn't though.I have a demonic sense of humor and a big mouth, been banned a lot. I've toned it down a lot but I still wish they let some of sarcasm and humor fly. I've seen some people warned and banned for stuff I though was hilarious. I guess it's a matter of taste. I do also appreciate that this isn't the wild west. It would be full of junk. More pro's and top level players need to post on the strategy section. That is a big part of why I come to TL and it seems there is less and less input on the site from top gamers. I'd love to see a pro/top level only, strat section. | ||
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Kimaker
United States2131 Posts
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.Aar
2177 Posts
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
I figure, if I get banned despite behaving myself, then it's the site and the mods that are at fault, not me- if they ban me, they don't deserve me. | ||
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