EPTSC2 & Politics - Page 7
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bonifaceviii
Canada2890 Posts
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yoshi_yoshi
United States440 Posts
Personally, it's just another thing I will use to decide whether I like a player or not. | ||
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FinnGamer
Germany2426 Posts
Still, political statements don't fit into e-sport, especially with someone who has that much fans. If he had wrote "Donate Money to japan" I would'nt mind, it's a good thing, but using this chance for a political statement, definitly not appropriate | ||
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insaneMicro
Germany761 Posts
![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/6a/Dokdo_20080628-panorama.jpg) Still, MKP should be allowed to express pretty much anything on stage IMO. Of course there is a line somewhere, but I don't think he's crossed it yet. | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
Of course it is his right to be annoying if he wants to (although I imagine organizers will ban this as it threatens their commercial interests), but that doesn't mean it's a good idea. | ||
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D10
Brazil3409 Posts
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BlackFlag
499 Posts
On April 01 2011 01:37 Dexx wrote: East Asian countries have a VERY long history with each other. Japan, China and Korea being the most prominent. Therefore, nationalism is very well alive over there and promt silly debates e.g. over what scripture derived originally from where and what people originally descends from what other country. We in the West (Europe) live in a post nationalist sociecty and can't really understand anymore how our forefather could get so heated up barely 100 years ago to go to war with eachother devestating all of Europe in WW1. But East Asia is still stuck in this nationalism and thus most political anylists think that East Asia will be the new hot spot of the world in the upcoming century. what are you talking about? in europe we have at the moment, more nationalistic rethoric and (race)hate than in the last 50 years. germany is i think the only country where the extreme right aren't getting stronger everyday. (but racist crap obiously gets its chance too with sarrazin). le pen in france, strache in austria, jobbik and it's fascist guards in hungary (who intimidate and fight roma), lega nord in italy etc. i could go on forever. sport was always the playground for politics. every sport, some more or less. | ||
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Nothingtosay
United States875 Posts
I voted no but you have tun understand how passionate people are about these | ||
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Elegy
United States1629 Posts
On April 01 2011 01:37 Dexx wrote: East Asian countries have a VERY long history with each other. Japan, China and Korea being the most prominent. Therefore, nationalism is very well alive over there and promt silly debates e.g. over what scripture derived originally from where and what people originally descends from what other country. We in the West (Europe) live in a post nationalist sociecty and can't really understand anymore how our forefather could get so heated up barely 100 years ago to go to war with eachother devestating all of Europe in WW1. But East Asia is still stuck in this nationalism and thus most political anylists think that East Asia will be the new hot spot of the world in the upcoming century. What? One of the most defining characteristics of European politics for the past...oh, decade at least, has been the growth, in both size and popularity, of "new" nationalist parties, notably Sweden, Hungary, Holland, etc. Modern European nationalism puts a twist on the more traditional meaning though, especially with Cameron and Merkel's "multiculturalism has failed" statements. It's not as "bad" as it was a long time ago, but claiming Europe is post-nationalist is far too optimistic, it's just that the nationalism has changed in both audience and tone. While, for example, Switzerland banning the construction of new minarets is nominally quite harmless, I think its safe to say it reflects a much more important underlying streak in many European nations. Anyways, I feel MKP shouldn't have done this. It wasn't the time nor the place, especially given the venue and given the events in Japan. It was tasteless at best. | ||
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BookII
Australia400 Posts
On April 01 2011 00:17 GrayGhost wrote: some of us use (e)sports to escape the politics Couldn't agree more. Everyone is entitled to their views and should be able to express them. But this is a show for entertainment and has nothing to do with the dispute over these islands. I don't suggest they 'ban' this, but it shouldn't be encouraged as it detracts a little from the entertainment of the show and may make some viewers feel quite uncomfortable (which they don't watch competitive SC2 to feel I'm sure). I know going to the extreme is such an easy argument, but really just imagine if after every match we had political swipes and gestures. I feel It would really take something from the entertainment, but others might disagree. | ||
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acker
United States2958 Posts
I do dislike it, but part of me's happy that E-sports has come to this level of popularity that politics starts happening. | ||
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Dexx
Germany175 Posts
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Hatsu
United Kingdom474 Posts
On April 01 2011 02:50 LambtrOn wrote: Not a big deal at all. He held up a sign for all of 5 seconds. The focus of the whole match was SC2. He's just using his platform as a top player to state his opinion. I don't think there's really anything wrong with that. I completely agree with this. He gained the attention of a large crowd and he did not go against any standing regulation. And it takes a certain amount of political awareness and courage to do such a thing. I liked it. | ||
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Orome
Switzerland11984 Posts
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Hatsu
United Kingdom474 Posts
On April 01 2011 08:39 Orome wrote: It also takes a large amount of social unawareness to not realise that this wasn't the time or the place. Could be claimed that it makes the message stronger, actually, and I think that was the intent. I definitely do not see MKP being unaware of the situation in Japan and GOM's fundraising efforts. | ||
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Nayl
Canada413 Posts
On April 01 2011 08:39 Orome wrote: It also takes a large amount of social unawareness to not realise that this wasn't the time or the place. It's unfair to pin this on MKP, considering SC2 player council is encouraging this and considering to put the statement on all the player's uniform. | ||
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c0rn1
Germany146 Posts
I wanna watch you own e-sports but I don't wanna know if you live in a hole outside town or get hunted by the government or whatever. Please just entertain me. The rest I do not care about. No wonder mankind seems to be stuck in evolution at the moment. | ||
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Shigy
United States346 Posts
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caelym
United States6430 Posts
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TheKanAry
United States149 Posts
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